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🔔  Service Update: VISA International Prepaid

Our VISA International card provider notified us about that we are unable to issue new cards without KYC due to new local regulations. This does not affect already issued cards.

👉🏻  For U.S. customers, we have VISA gift card:
https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto

👉🏻  For international customers, we have MPC Mastercard (please note that they don't support 3D):
https://stealths.net/product/mpc-mastercard-auto

We understand that it was most our most preferred product and we are continuously working on finding alternative solutions.

Also, we would like to sincerely thank all our customers who have supported us for the last 6 months.

Which product of yours can be used to pay for Credit Card bill in India? To be precise, the card must be able to spend INR.
Hi,

I think majority of merchants in India require 3D verification, so our cards may not work for your use. But MyPrepaidCenter seems like supporting India, payments on websites that don't enforce 3D may work.
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🔔  Service Update: VISA International Prepaid

Our VISA International card provider notified us about that we are unable to issue new cards without KYC due to new local regulations. This does not affect already issued cards.

👉🏻  For U.S. customers, we have VISA gift card:
https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto

👉🏻  For international customers, we have MPC Mastercard (please note that they don't support 3D):
https://stealths.net/product/mpc-mastercard-auto

We understand that it was most our most preferred product and we are continuously working on finding alternative solutions.

Also, we would like to sincerely thank all our customers who have supported us for the last 6 months.

Which product of yours can be used to pay for Credit Card bill in India? To be precise, the card must be able to spend INR.
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Our VISA International card provider notified us about that we are unable to issue new cards without KYC due to new local regulations.
Bad news, and this new regulations are getting more stupid every day.
“The closer the collapse of the Empire, the crazier it's laws are.” ― Cicero

Obviously, our growing volume had an impact on this, but the main reason is US government's recent -unfortunate- reaction to no-KYC services.
That's cat & mouse game, they will block we will bring new alternatives. At least, for now, we have motivation to keep this business up.
I am hoping you will find some new alternative that works, but I heard other providers of non-kyc cards are facing similar issues and they had to cancel all their virtual cards.
What's even worse for competition is they even canceled previously issued cards and that really sucks  Tongue
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Obviously, our growing volume had an impact on this, but the main reason is US government's recent -unfortunate- reaction to no-KYC services.
That's cat & mouse game, they will block we will bring new alternatives. At least, for now, we have motivation to keep this business up.


It's true, it seems that the feds are on some kind of spring offensive against all services that don't ask for KYC and have to do with privacy when it comes to BTC. As far as I can see, there are some other virtual cards that do not have KYC and are available, it seems, only in Europe, but they do not have 3D security, so payment through POS devices is questionable.

Good luck finding some new alternatives Wink
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🔔  Service Update: VISA International Prepaid
Our VISA International card provider notified us about that we are unable to issue new cards without KYC due to new local regulations. This does not affect already issued cards.
~snip~


It was only a matter of time when it would happen, and maybe you yourself contributed to it happening faster, considering that the card limit was increased to even $2000, which obviously attracted someone's attention. However, considering everything that is happening, it is not at all strange that without KYC it will not be possible to buy any virtual card.
Obviously, our growing volume had an impact on this, but the main reason is US government's recent -unfortunate- reaction to no-KYC services.
That's cat & mouse game, they will block we will bring new alternatives. At least, for now, we have motivation to keep this business up.
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🔔  Service Update: VISA International Prepaid
Our VISA International card provider notified us about that we are unable to issue new cards without KYC due to new local regulations. This does not affect already issued cards.
~snip~


It was only a matter of time when it would happen, and maybe you yourself contributed to it happening faster, considering that the card limit was increased to even $2000, which obviously attracted someone's attention. However, considering everything that is happening, it is not at all strange that without KYC it will not be possible to buy any virtual card.
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🔔  Service Update: VISA International Prepaid

Our VISA International card provider notified us about that we are unable to issue new cards without KYC due to new local regulations. This does not affect already issued cards.

👉🏻  For U.S. customers, we have VISA gift card:
https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto

👉🏻  For international customers, we have MPC Mastercard (please note that they don't support 3D):
https://stealths.net/product/mpc-mastercard-auto

We understand that it was most our most preferred product and we are continuously working on finding alternative solutions.

Also, we would like to sincerely thank all our customers who have supported us for the last 6 months.
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Is there any chance Stealths could provide non-kyc physical cards in future?
There is a demand for products like this.
We actually had some meetings with card issuers and it seems like that's possible to have no-KYC physical cards (even with decent ATM withdrawal limits). It's currently unaffordable for us but in the future I hope yes.

I just noticed Stealths has been listed on Kycnot.me:
https://kycnot.me/service/stealths
Yes, they listed us 1 month ago after several months of waiting.  Smiley  Better late than never tho.
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Still looking for a Virtual card provider that can be used with Apple...
I think your best option is to look for apple gift cards.
There was several providers (Bitrefill, thebitcoincompany.com) who sold them for bitcoin and other cryptocurrency, but I am not sure they are still offering them.
Just make sure to use matching IP address to avoid getting rejected.

As far as I know they are providing virtual cards, not prepaid cards. This is probably the reason you were able to use it on Apple Store.
Is there any chance Stealths could provide non-kyc physical cards in future?
There is a demand for products like this.

PS
I just noticed Stealths has been listed on Kycnot.me:
https://kycnot.me/service/stealths
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1. There was a temporary maintenance on VISA international cards, you should be able to purchase now.
2. You can't use it on Apple Store, they don't accept prepaid cards.
3. You can use any address and phone number, no address is linked to the card.

That's a pity. I successfully used PST.net before with Apple and they had no problem accepted small amount of BTC with no KYC. Recently, I tried several times and burnt a bunch of sats only to have it eaten by their KYC process. But their 3DS card was able to pay for Apple Store stuff before... Still looking for a Virtual card provider that can be used with Apple...
As far as I know they are providing virtual cards, not prepaid cards. This is probably the reason you were able to use it on Apple Store.
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1. There was a temporary maintenance on VISA international cards, you should be able to purchase now.
2. You can't use it on Apple Store, they don't accept prepaid cards.
3. You can use any address and phone number, no address is linked to the card.

That's a pity. I successfully used PST.net before with Apple and they had no problem accepted small amount of BTC with no KYC. Recently, I tried several times and burnt a bunch of sats only to have it eaten by their KYC process. But their 3DS card was able to pay for Apple Store stuff before... Still looking for a Virtual card provider that can be used with Apple...
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1. Both the VISA International Prepaid Card (USD) and the PDS Mastercard Prepaid is showing a Min of $5.00, but a Max of $0.00. Coding error or is the card taken down?

2. Trying to pay for Apple Developer's Program with this. Wonder if there's any known trouble with Apple Store payment (Apple Developer's Program payment link jumps to Apple Store for payment processing).

3. Does the VISA International Prepaid Card's 3DS has associated phone number and address? So that I can match my Apple ID account address & number to it, in case Apple cross checks whether the account address matches the billing address?

Thanks

1. There was a temporary maintenance on VISA international cards, you should be able to purchase now.
2. You can't use it on Apple Store, they don't accept prepaid cards.
3. You can use any address and phone number, no address is linked to the card.
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1. Both the VISA International Prepaid Card (USD) and the PDS Mastercard Prepaid is showing a Min of $5.00, but a Max of $0.00. Coding error or is the card taken down?

2. Trying to pay for Apple Developer's Program with this. Wonder if there's any known trouble with Apple Store payment (Apple Developer's Program payment link jumps to Apple Store for payment processing).

3. Does the VISA International Prepaid Card's 3DS has associated phone number and address? So that I can match my Apple ID account address & number to it, in case Apple cross checks whether the account address matches the billing address?

Thanks
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In that case, it's a slight downgrade security-wise. The standard security model requires the owner of the card to confirm each transaction using a code they receive on their registered phone number. It's 2FA. If you get rid of that, there is no longer a second authentication, and anyone with my card details (which I must protect anyways) would be able to make transactions. Am I correct? Can I at least block the card and freeze its spending capabilities anytime I don't want to use it?

The thing is not ideal when it comes to security, but considering that you can buy an unlimited number of cards, then you can choose the amounts on them in relation to whether you want to use them for online purchases where you have to enter the card data, or you will use the card exclusively to add to Google/Apple wallet on your mobile phone and pay through POS devices that way.

I think that the possibilities of abuse are very small and that it all depends on how you store the card information. It is important that the e-mail you will use to receive the card information after payment is secure, because it seems to me that this is one of the ways that someone could get hold of the card information, unless of course you enter it yourself on a phishing site.
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You are right, anyone who knows card details can make a purchase (just like no-3D cards). This is obviously a downside however there is not any other prepaid card issuer with 3D support and no-KYC requirement. As far as I know, it's possible to block card details on VISA International Prepaid Card.
Are you aware of any cases where the auto-3D feature stopped working, preventing a genuine user from using the card until your support checked what's wrong?
I am looking at your international VISA prepaid card. Is this country list up-to-date?
The product description says there is no currency conversion fee. Can you share the source you use to convert between USD and other national currencies?
To clarify, we are not the card issuer. We are reselling prepaid cards which are issued by U.S. banks via licensed card issuers. Card issuer uses VISA's exchange rates, I believe you can find it on VISA's website.
We haven't had any issue with 3D security so far, it's sold as "international" so this is why it's enabled. Country list is up-to-date.
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You are right, anyone who knows card details can make a purchase (just like no-3D cards). This is obviously a downside however there is not any other prepaid card issuer with 3D support and no-KYC requirement. As far as I know, it's possible to block card details on VISA International Prepaid Card.
Are you aware of any cases where the auto-3D feature stopped working, preventing a genuine user from using the card until your support checked what's wrong?
I am looking at your international VISA prepaid card. Is this country list up-to-date?
The product description says there is no currency conversion fee. Can you share the source you use to convert between USD and other national currencies?
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This card has auto-3D feature, which doesn't require an action from you such as entering auth code. All 3D requests are automatically approved by card issuer.
In that case, it's a slight downgrade security-wise. The standard security model requires the owner of the card to confirm each transaction using a code they receive on their registered phone number. It's 2FA. If you get rid of that, there is no longer a second authentication, and anyone with my card details (which I must protect anyways) would be able to make transactions. Am I correct? Can I at least block the card and freeze its spending capabilities anytime I don't want to use it?
You are right, anyone who knows card details can make a purchase (just like no-3D cards). This is obviously a downside however there is not any other prepaid card issuer with 3D support and no-KYC requirement. As far as I know, it's possible to block card details on VISA International Prepaid Card.
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Farewell, Leo. You will be missed!
This card has auto-3D feature, which doesn't require an action from you such as entering auth code. All 3D requests are automatically approved by card issuer.
In that case, it's a slight downgrade security-wise. The standard security model requires the owner of the card to confirm each transaction using a code they receive on their registered phone number. It's 2FA. If you get rid of that, there is no longer a second authentication, and anyone with my card details (which I must protect anyways) would be able to make transactions. Am I correct? Can I at least block the card and freeze its spending capabilities anytime I don't want to use it?
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If someone knows the answer to this:

The website says the card supports 3D secure.

How it's possible if the card issuer does't know my phone number and there is no app. I can't follow the verification protocol

TYVM

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PDS Mastercard service was closed for new orders for a few days, we fixed the problem and launched it again.

The VISA International Prepaid Card (USD) is also issued by PDS?  Sad

This card has auto-3D feature, which doesn't require an action from you such as entering auth code. All 3D requests are automatically approved by card issuer.

Only PDS Mastercard is issued by Prepaid Digital Solutions.
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If someone knows the answer to this:

The website says the card supports 3D secure.

How it's possible if the card issuer does't know my phone number and there is no app. I can't follow the verification protocol

TYVM

edit:


PDS Mastercard service was closed for new orders for a few days, we fixed the problem and launched it again.

The VISA International Prepaid Card (USD) is also issued by PDS?  Sad
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- VISA US Gift Cards are back with a maximum limit of $1,000. https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto
I am reading the details and terms about this card and it is saying that it only works in the United States.
Does that mean that it can't be used with merchants and websites that are located in Europe and other regions outside US?

- PDS Mastercard service has been restroyed. https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto
What does restroyed mean exactly?

Yes, VISA Gift Card (US) product work only in the United States merchants. For other countries, you may consider using VISA International Prepaid Card.

PDS Mastercard service was closed for new orders for a few days, we fixed the problem and launched it again.
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- VISA US Gift Cards are back with a maximum limit of $1,000. https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto
I am reading the details and terms about this card and it is saying that it only works in the United States.
Does that mean that it can't be used with merchants and websites that are located in Europe and other regions outside US?

- PDS Mastercard service has been restroyed. https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto
What does restroyed mean exactly?
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Service Updates:
- VISA International Prepaid Card currency is changed from EUR to USD and maximum limit has been lifted to $2,000. Cards are still being provided by same company. https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-usd
~snip~


I made a suggestion, but I didn't think that you would remove EUR completely - because all that had to be done was to enable the option that whoever buys the card can choose between $ or EUR - of course, all to avoid the confusion mentioned in previous posts. Now we have the "problem" that the card balance is in $, and this makes it difficult to monitor the balance on the card for those who pay in EUR.

If I have $100 left on my card and I want to pay something in that price range, I must first calculate how much it is in EUR because it may happen that the transaction is rejected. In addition, the conversion rate from USD to EUR is constantly changing, and the question is, what is the official exchange rate that we should use?


The base currency of VISA international cards was always "USD". When you bought €100 card, card balance was being converted to USD up on the activation (this is explained on product page). Now we removed that to avoid currency exchange confusions. So actually EUR cards were not solving the problem you mentioned.

Card provider uses VISA's real time exchange rate, they don't charge additional fee for foreign currency payments. But you can calculate -1% less to make sure transaction doesn't get declined.
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Service Updates:
- VISA International Prepaid Card currency is changed from EUR to USD and maximum limit has been lifted to $2,000. Cards are still being provided by same company. https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-usd
~snip~


I made a suggestion, but I didn't think that you would remove EUR completely - because all that had to be done was to enable the option that whoever buys the card can choose between $ or EUR - of course, all to avoid the confusion mentioned in previous posts. Now we have the "problem" that the card balance is in $, and this makes it difficult to monitor the balance on the card for those who pay in EUR.

If I have $100 left on my card and I want to pay something in that price range, I must first calculate how much it is in EUR because it may happen that the transaction is rejected. In addition, the conversion rate from USD to EUR is constantly changing, and the question is, what is the official exchange rate that we should use?
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Service Updates:
- VISA International Prepaid Card currency is changed from EUR to USD and maximum limit has been lifted to $2,000. Cards are still being provided by same company. https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-usd
- VISA US Gift Cards are back with a maximum limit of $1,000. https://stealths.net/product/visa-giftcard-auto
- PDS Mastercard service has been restroyed. https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto
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There is one part that doesn't sound good and I don't like it, there is a chance of provider asking for KYC verification, so it's not recommended for anyone who want's to avoid that:
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If you encounter a problem with card, you need to contact PDS support and they might require KYC.

What happened to all other cards that were previously available on your website?
Now I can only see VISA prepaid card with 3ds, and this new PDS Mastercard (not counting gif cards).

Hi, we provide card activation code for PDS. But similar to MyPrepaidCenter, it must be activated on provider's website. By the way we haven't faced such KYC issue so far, however we are obligated to provide all informations. Always recommended to test with small amount at first.

We used to have 2 other options; MyPrepaidCenter Mastercard and VISA US gift card. Issuer bank changed their program rules, PDS is a good replacement for MyPrepaidCenter however we are aware of that VISA US gift card is needed. Hopefully it will be added back to our service in following days.
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There is one part that doesn't sound good and I don't like it, there is a chance of provider asking for KYC verification, so it's not recommended for anyone who want's to avoid that:
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If you encounter a problem with card, you need to contact PDS support and they might require KYC.

What happened to all other cards that were previously available on your website?
Now I can only see VISA prepaid card with 3ds, and this new PDS Mastercard (not counting gif cards).
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New Product: PDS Mastercard Prepaid

We are happy to announce that a new prepaid card provider has been integrated to our service.

•  Card provider: Prepaid Digital Solutions
•  Maximum balance limit: $1,000
•  Apple Pay & Google Pay supported

https://stealths.net/product/pds-mastercard-auto
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Hello.
We are also aware of that it's a little bit confusing. We are currently working on USD international cards to overcome currency confusion, but meanwhile a UX change could be helpful.
Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions!


You're welcome Smiley

I remembered that one member of the forum (if I'm not mistaken @stompix) in one of the topics discussing crypto cards was also a bit confused about fees - but I'm sure you'll find a solution for that too. Keep up the good work Wink
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Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!
  We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!
  Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.


It's great that you raised the max limit of the card and that there are no more restrictions in terms of pre-determined amounts. If possible, I would suggest one change on the page regarding "Net amount you want to receive" which is expressed in EUR and "Total amount to pay" which is expressed in $ - because for some it can be a bit confusing when it comes to fees.

When, for example, someone wants to get EUR 1500 on the card, they have to pay $1683, so for someone who doesn't see the difference in currency, it can seem like a really big fee. The fee is actually (depending on the exchange rate) around 55-60 EUR.
Hello.

We are also aware of that it's a little bit confusing. We are currently working on USD international cards to overcome currency confusion, but meanwhile a UX change could be helpful.

Thank you for your thoughts and suggestions!
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Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!
👉🏻  We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!
👉🏻  Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.


It's great that you raised the max limit of the card and that there are no more restrictions in terms of pre-determined amounts. If possible, I would suggest one change on the page regarding "Net amount you want to receive" which is expressed in EUR and "Total amount to pay" which is expressed in $ - because for some it can be a bit confusing when it comes to fees.

When, for example, someone wants to get EUR 1500 on the card, they have to pay $1683, so for someone who doesn't see the difference in currency, it can seem like a really big fee. The fee is actually (depending on the exchange rate) around 55-60 EUR.
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Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!

👉🏻  We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!

👉🏻  Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.

https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-international

Can I use this to sign up for an AWS Free Tier account? If yes, what would be the Cardholder's name?
For this product, you set the cardholder name on card activation, so it can be anything.
Prepaid cards may not work for free trials.
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Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!

👉🏻  We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!

👉🏻  Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.

https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-international

Can I use this to sign up for an AWS Free Tier account? If yes, what would be the Cardholder's name?
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Service Update: VISA International Prepaid limits have been increased!

👉🏻  We changed fixed amounts to variable, you can purchase any amount, even as low as 1 euro!

👉🏻  Maximum card limit has been increased to €1,500. There is no daily limit, you can purchase multiple cards.

https://stealths.net/product/visa-prepaid-international
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Thanks for the answer, it really wouldn't make sense for someone to enter the data from the card manually when we already have technology that makes it possible to pay with virtual cards in a safe and simple way.

As for the amount on the card, I don't know if it depends on you or the card provider, but I personally would like to see €300 and €750 cards. Of course, it is possible to buy 2x150 or 500+250 card, but that means paying cryptocurrency fees twice.
Thank you for suggestions, it depends on provider at the moment but we are in contact with them to have more options.
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Thanks for the answer, it really wouldn't make sense for someone to enter the data from the card manually when we already have technology that makes it possible to pay with virtual cards in a safe and simple way.

As for the amount on the card, I don't know if it depends on you or the card provider, but I personally would like to see €300 and €750 cards. Of course, it is possible to buy 2x150 or 500+250 card, but that means paying cryptocurrency fees twice.
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@StealthsNet, when it comes to your VISA International Prepaid Card, I did a little research and although it seems to me that the matter is quite clear, can you confirm that this card cannot be used to pay in physical stores when it is added to Google/Apple Pay?

Your provider states the following in its FAQ :

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Can I use my card in a physical store?  Your card can be used in-store only if the merchant is able to manually enter your card information.
Hi, VISA international card can be used in physical stores with Apple Pay or Google Pay. We (and our clients) tested in Europe, UK and some other countries. So, card issuer doesn't block physical payments via mobile wallets. They probably try to explain that it's totally virtual and there is no way to convert card to physical card (some other card providers have such option).

Note: It works in most stores, however some users reported that prepaid cards don't work in some specific stores while it works at different places. We recommend to test with small amount first.
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@StealthsNet, when it comes to your VISA International Prepaid Card, I did a little research and although it seems to me that the matter is quite clear, can you confirm that this card cannot be used to pay in physical stores when it is added to Google/Apple Pay?

Your provider states the following in its FAQ :

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Can I use my card in a physical store?  Your card can be used in-store only if the merchant is able to manually enter your card information.
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Virtual number stocks renewed!

You can purchase a virtual phone number to receive SMS from online services: https://stealths.net/product/virtual-phone-number
The number is valid for 1 year and you can extend lifespan before it expires.
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We are testing two new services: Airbnb Gift Card (US) and Amazon Gift Card (US). Both are automated, gift cards get activated right after payment. Depending on the demand, we may integrate new services.
Can any of your cards be used for twitter aka X platform as payment of their services, even gift cards would work for this?

I saw several people asking about alternative way of paying indirectly using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
Direct BTC payments would be better but clown Elon is probably making his own all-in-one payment system.  Tongue
Hi, VISA Prepaid International works for payments on X (Twitter).
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We are testing two new services: Airbnb Gift Card (US) and Amazon Gift Card (US). Both are automated, gift cards get activated right after payment. Depending on the demand, we may integrate new services.
Can any of your cards be used for twitter aka X platform as payment of their services, even gift cards would work for this?

I saw several people asking about alternative way of paying indirectly using bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.
Direct BTC payments would be better but clown Elon is probably making his own all-in-one payment system.  Tongue
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New products!

We are testing two new services: Airbnb Gift Card (US) and Amazon Gift Card (US). Both are automated, gift cards get activated right after payment. Depending on the demand, we may integrate new services.

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Good bye, 2023!  Cool

We would like to express our gratitude to our customers who supported us throughout the launch year. May the new year bring opportunities, success and happiness to the entire crypto community.

Stealths will be available in 2024 with more KYCless crypto cashout services.
legendary
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We check all messages regularly but Telegram is preferred to communicate quicker. Because Session app has some issues with notifications.
You can try another alternative for Telegram and Session if you want real privacy, that is app called SimpleX.chat.
Notifications work much better, they can be customized, there is no ID or phone number connected with accounts, and simplex chat can be used on all devices.
jr. member
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Hi, do you have any plans on adding more options to your virtual phone numbers? I've been looking for a Chinese number for months already, but it seems nobody can provide that. Those who claim can provide it, request a very expensive fee. Other services request my private information and I doubt its legitimacy in the end. I can understand the difficulties since every number must be registered with a Chinese ID, but what about countries like India or other countries in general? 
Hi, those countries are not available on our current provider at the moment. Currently it doesn't seem like we will be able to add other countries in the future but we'll update on this thread.
legendary
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Hi, do you have any plans on adding more options to your virtual phone numbers? I've been looking for a Chinese number for months already, but it seems nobody can provide that. Those who claim can provide it, request a very expensive fee. Other services request my private information and I doubt its legitimacy in the end. I can understand the difficulties since every number must be registered with a Chinese ID, but what about countries like India or other countries in general? 
jr. member
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By the way, we have 3D prepaid card option this time, perfect choice for European users.
Are you totally sure that this card will be valid for 3 years, like it is written on your website?
It sucks that we can't reload the card, and some problems can happen again n future like when you disabled cards the last time.

PS
Please tell me in what stealths support option are you more active, email, session or telegram?
Validity of card is 3 years after the activation, card issuer is a big company on the gift card industry and cards are not processed by us, so even if we close our website you can keep using and managing the prepaid card.
Last time we only disabled new orders and existing cards kept working fine, we didn't have an option for reloading cards. I didn't exactly get what problem it caused.

We check all messages regularly but Telegram is preferred to communicate quicker. Because Session app has some issues with notifications.
legendary
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By the way, we have 3D prepaid card option this time, perfect choice for European users.
Are you totally sure that this card will be valid for 3 years, like it is written on your website?
It sucks that we can't reload the card, and some problems can happen again n future like when you disabled cards the last time.

PS
Please tell me in what stealths support option are you more active, email, session or telegram?
jr. member
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Hi Bitcointalk community. Our website has launched 3 months ago with an exclusive service, no-kyc virtual cards. It was a successful launch but we needed to disable automated card services after first month due to issues related with card issuer.
After some break, we are happy to announce that we have completed integration of automated prepaid cards. You can buy a prepaid card and receive details right after payment confirmation on the blockchain. By the way, we have 3D prepaid card option this time, perfect choice for European users.

⭐ VISA International Prepaid Card (3D secure, Google Pay, Apple Pay)
💳 MasterCard EU/US Prepaid Card (Google Pay, Apple Pay)
🇺🇸 VISA Gift Card (US only)

Maximum card limit is $1000 at the moment.

Also, if you need an anonymous virtual phone number, you may check our virtual number service too:
📲 Virtual Phone Number (valid for 1 year)

Accepted cryptocurrencies: Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, BNB, Litecoin, Tron, USDT (TRC-20 & BEP-20) and Monero
Store page: https://stealths.net/store
full member
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Any reviews on this service? The instant SEPA transfer seems interesting to me. I would just like to read some trusted reviews from other forum members, before I give it a try.
jr. member
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The companies you mentioned provides prepaid cards, not virtual. Btw our prepaid cards also work for 6 months, it's same for almost all prepaid card sellers.
Ok, I understand now.
For me they are all virtual and prepaid because I need to pay with coins to send money on cards, that is why I was confused.

I was reading terms on VISA Virtual card and I see that it's only possible to make single purchase in the same day... not exactly what I was looking for, that is even worse than Mastercard 2 weeks limit.
https://stealths.net/product/visa-vcc-manual
Yeah, prepaid cards may also work for target website but make sure they accept them. Otherwise it would be waste of money.

VISA manual VCC is our new product, it's for single time payments. It's different than Mastercard auto VCC, this card supports 3D secure. And it's accepted on almost all merchants.
legendary
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The companies you mentioned provides prepaid cards, not virtual. Btw our prepaid cards also work for 6 months, it's same for almost all prepaid card sellers.
Ok, I understand now.
For me they are all virtual and prepaid because I need to pay with coins to send money on cards, that is why I was confused.

I was reading terms on VISA Virtual card and I see that it's only possible to make single purchase in the same day... not exactly what I was looking for, that is even worse than Mastercard 2 weeks limit.
https://stealths.net/product/visa-vcc-manual
jr. member
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Hi, our virtual cards are valid for two weeks for now. Prepaid cards are valid for 6 months.
What is the difference between Virtual and Prepaid cards? They are both virtual if I understand correctly, there is no physical cards?

Virtual cards are have written name and linked address. Prepaid gift cards don't have name and address, they could be used with any name & address.
Is it some random name given by you, or I would have to register and enter all data myself?

It would be great if you could let me know about that which providers issue virtual cards with longer validity. You can send me a PM.
Thebitcoincompany.com has Visa cards that works for many months and they have higher limits, and I think Bitrefill.com have something similar.
There is one more provider but their cards only work in United States currently.
1. Virtual cards are linked to a bank account, they look like a real credit/debit card so they have higher approval rate on merchants. They might be allowed on merchants which doesn't accept prepaid cards.
2. For virtual cards we provide cardholder name and billing address. For prepaid cards you should use random name and address.
3. The companies you mentioned provides prepaid cards, not virtual. Btw our prepaid cards also work for 6 months, it's same for almost all prepaid card sellers.
legendary
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Hi, our virtual cards are valid for two weeks for now. Prepaid cards are valid for 6 months.
What is the difference between Virtual and Prepaid cards? They are both virtual if I understand correctly, there is no physical cards?

Virtual cards are have written name and linked address. Prepaid gift cards don't have name and address, they could be used with any name & address.
Is it some random name given by you, or I would have to register and enter all data myself?

It would be great if you could let me know about that which providers issue virtual cards with longer validity. You can send me a PM.
Thebitcoincompany.com has Visa cards that works for many months and they have higher limits, and I think Bitrefill.com have something similar.
There is one more provider but their cards only work in United States currently.
jr. member
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Hi, yes virtual cards are tested on PayPal. Also it's possible to see transaction history, so you can grab the code for PayPal to verify the card.
Is there any name written on this cards or not?
Several people asked me for virtual cards that for on Alirexpress but I couldn't find anything that works, maybe you can tell me if cards on your website work.
It sucks to see that cards are valid only for two weeks, that is much less than what competition is offering.

Hi, our virtual cards are valid for two weeks for now. Prepaid cards are valid for 6 months.
Virtual cards are have written name and linked address. Prepaid gift cards don't have name and address, they could be used with any name & address. I'm unsure about Aliexpress, but since they accept credit card, Google Pay or PayPal. One of them should work imo.

P.S.: It would be great if you could let me know about that which providers issue virtual cards with longer validity. You can send me a PM.
legendary
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Hi, yes virtual cards are tested on PayPal. Also it's possible to see transaction history, so you can grab the code for PayPal to verify the card.
Is there any name written on this cards or not?
Several people asked me for virtual cards that for on Alirexpress but I couldn't find anything that works, maybe you can tell me if cards on your website work.
It sucks to see that cards are valid only for two weeks, that is much less than what competition is offering.
jr. member
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I have just seen your service on the forum and visited the site and I came to know that your cards is accepted on Paypal. I will try to use the service if it is really safe and secure. I think it will be a helpful site for a lot of people like me who want to use Paypal and other services which you have mentioned.
Hi, yes virtual cards are tested on PayPal. Also it's possible to see transaction history, so you can grab the code for PayPal to verify the card.
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I have just seen your service on the forum and visited the site and I came to know that your cards is accepted on Paypal. I will try to use the service if it is really safe and secure. I think it will be a helpful site for a lot of people like me who want to use Paypal and other services which you have mentioned.
jr. member
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I'm not sure that the cards will be very useful if they don't have 3D Secure which is not supported by the ones you're selling.

Also, don't you think it would be good to have a "Stealth Paypal account" option for people to purchase, or is that impractical? There's probably a lot of people who would jump at the chance to buy one (as long as it doesn't get limited).
Hi, yes currently 3D is not supported. But I have to say that these virtual cards have higher approval rates rather than prepaid cards. So they work on merchants which support 3D but don't force it. But we are working on some 3D solution, there will be a manual service in the worst case.

We're working on selling "stealth accounts". I guess we'll add some reloadable prepaid card account with SEPA IBAN at first. But we may add PayPal too. I'll share updates on this thread..

Nice.

Do consider starting a mailing list too so you can send out these updates to the audience even outside of Bitcointalk.
We probably won't launch mailing list, because website is designed to get the least amount of info from customers. We don't even require email for delivery.
But we have Telegram channel for updates: https://t.me/stealthsnet
Probably gonna create a Nostr account too soon.
legendary
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I'm not sure that the cards will be very useful if they don't have 3D Secure which is not supported by the ones you're selling.

Also, don't you think it would be good to have a "Stealth Paypal account" option for people to purchase, or is that impractical? There's probably a lot of people who would jump at the chance to buy one (as long as it doesn't get limited).
Hi, yes currently 3D is not supported. But I have to say that these virtual cards have higher approval rates rather than prepaid cards. So they work on merchants which support 3D but don't force it. But we are working on some 3D solution, there will be a manual service in the worst case.

We're working on selling "stealth accounts". I guess we'll add some reloadable prepaid card account with SEPA IBAN at first. But we may add PayPal too. I'll share updates on this thread..

Nice.

Do consider starting a mailing list too so you can send out these updates to the audience even outside of Bitcointalk.
jr. member
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I'm not sure that the cards will be very useful if they don't have 3D Secure which is not supported by the ones you're selling.

Also, don't you think it would be good to have a "Stealth Paypal account" option for people to purchase, or is that impractical? There's probably a lot of people who would jump at the chance to buy one (as long as it doesn't get limited).
Hi, yes currently 3D is not supported. But I have to say that these virtual cards have higher approval rates rather than prepaid cards. So they work on merchants which support 3D but don't force it. But we are working on some 3D solution, there will be a manual service in the worst case.

We're working on selling "stealth accounts". I guess we'll add some reloadable prepaid card account with SEPA IBAN at first. But we may add PayPal too. I'll share updates on this thread..
legendary
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bitcoincleanup.com / bitmixlist.org
I'm not sure that the cards will be very useful if they don't have 3D Secure which is not supported by the ones you're selling.

Also, don't you think it would be good to have a "Stealth Paypal account" option for people to purchase, or is that impractical? There's probably a lot of people who would jump at the chance to buy one (as long as it doesn't get limited).
jr. member
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Instead of complex ToS page, we prefer simplified FAQ page which explains generic (refunds, no KYC status, delivery etc.) terms. Also each product has a detailed description about its terms, prohibited actions and other useful info. But we still have an external Terms page (created to apply listing websites), you can view it here: https://stealths.net/terms.
Thanks for your response.
I understand that they can be lengthy and complex, but still good if they can easily be accessible on the site. Like on the footer of the homepage and another link right before one is about to make a purchase.

The FAQ section can't contain everything that is in the TOS.
Yes, that makes sense. I'll check where can we add ToS and similar links, thank you for contribution.
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฿itcoin for all, All for ฿itcoin.
Instead of complex ToS page, we prefer simplified FAQ page which explains generic (refunds, no KYC status, delivery etc.) terms. Also each product has a detailed description about its terms, prohibited actions and other useful info. But we still have an external Terms page (created to apply listing websites), you can view it here: https://stealths.net/terms.
Thanks for your response.
I understand that they can be lengthy and complex, but still good if they can easily be accessible on the site. Like on the footer of the homepage and another link right before one is about to make a purchase.

The FAQ section can't contain everything that is in the TOS.
jr. member
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When I first saw your ANN, my first thought it was another popular instant exchange (https://stealt[Suspicious link removed]), only to realize that there are some differences.

Why the choice of similar domain name, though?

Where are your terms of service?
Hi, thank you for questions.

Stealth is a generic word and "stealth account" is a popular term in the business. For example "Stealth PayPal account" is used for pointing a PayPal account which does not have relation with your identity. Also they are providing exchange services, we are in a different industry. So we don't think it can cause a serious confusion.

Instead of complex ToS page, we prefer simplified FAQ page which explains generic (refunds, no KYC status, delivery etc.) terms. Also each product has a detailed description about its terms, prohibited actions and other useful info. But we still have an external Terms page (created to apply listing websites), you can view it here: https://stealths.net/terms.
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When I first saw your ANN, my first thought it was another popular instant exchange (https://stealthex.io), only to realize that there are some differences.

Why the choice of similar domain name, though?

Where are your terms of service?
jr. member
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Hi Bitcointalk community. Our website has launched 3 months ago with an exclusive service, no-kyc virtual cards. It was a successful launch but we needed to disable automated card services after first month due to issues related with card issuer.
After some break, we are happy to announce that we have completed integration of automated prepaid cards. You can buy a prepaid card and receive details right after payment confirmation on the blockchain. By the way, we have 3D prepaid card option this time, perfect choice for European users.

⭐ VISA International Prepaid Card (3D secure, Google Pay, Apple Pay)
💳 MasterCard EU/US Prepaid Card (Google Pay, Apple Pay)
🇺🇸 VISA Gift Card (US only)

Maximum card limit is $1000 at the moment.

Also, if you need an anonymous virtual phone number, you may check our virtual number service too:
📲 Virtual Phone Number (valid for 1 year)

Accepted cryptocurrencies: Bitcoin, Bitcoin Cash, Ethereum, BNB, Litecoin, Tron, USDT (TRC-20 & BEP-20) and Monero
Store page: https://stealths.net/store
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