Topic: This forum is just for high rank member (Read 522 times)

This is a separate case and its not something you does regular than those of bounty hunters, whenever you notices a regular in and out of gas between addresses severally you should be able to detects that its a connected account. Although sometimes it could be is not one person controlling all those account but we need to be very careful whenever we are transacting and based on the forum drama we need to avoid sharing gas or btc between address to be free from this drama. There were other better ways to detects if the account belongs to one single user maybe constantly using same telegram id, facebook or twitter profile across both account then we can bold say such person are the owner of the both accounts and can be tag for cheating.  

Here we go again  . Op, your aim of creating this thread was to bring to the forum's notice thst reports made by newbies are not taken serious, right? Well don't blame them for that because with what you've presented, it doesn't give enough reason for them to pay attention. Except you are operating with your alt, I don't see how a newbie should bother about reporting when they've not read and understood some of the forum rules?

 And again, it looks to me you are desperate for some form of cheap recognition that you went ahead to create this thread. Like others have supplied, report claims give by newbies are taken into consideration after the reporter must have supplied enough evidence to deem the account worthy of a proper check.
Can you kindly point me to where it was stated so? Maybe I must have missed it.

There are certain patterns in transactions that make it apparent alt accounts are sending coins/tokens to themselves. Usually they have to do with the spacing of the transactions, the address type, and transaction amounts.

For example, if a bunch of accounts are all sending tokens to the same exchange deposit address within 1-5 minutes of each other, this nearly certainly means one person is flipping through metamask addresses that are all in one wallet that belongs to them.

Also, accounts that send entire coin balances (BNB and ETH, mainly) back and forth to each other often are likely to be alts just adding gas to their wallets to make token transactions (this can be seen in Rikafip's screenshot above).

With bounty cheaters, the speed and coordination of the transaction timings occur in a way that renders it highly unlikely these accounts are just selling their tokens / coins to a 3rd party. This is hard to replicate in transactions between two distinct, legit parties.

It is of course ideal to substantiate connection evidence with social media proofs, but there are problems that can arise from that as well (bounty hunters copying the details of other hunters, for instance). That's why every connection should be reviewed on a case-by-case basis, and presented in a manner so the majority of people who look into it can come to the same conclusion.

That your case isn’t handled as expected doesn’t make the forum picky on a side. As far as I can tell, a well detailed report with factual presentation of proofs and reports that goes against forum rules are not taken likely. It doesn’t matter if you’re a newbie or a legendary. If you take a trip to meta to look at the unban request, you would as well notice that those aren’t newbie accounts but, well established accounts in the forum.

Lashing out like that on rank users isn’t going to make your reports taken any seriously at OP. Perhaps you ain’t getting everything right in your report format and it ain’t satisfactory enough to result in drastic measures. You could as well learn how it’s done from those that are getting results and emulate them.

I haven’t really taken to these paths so I have nothing really to offer as per means to digging out flaws but then, you could learn a thing or two from the bulk of established users that dominate the reputation board rather than blast them.

You are a new member and you have no expertise in your work and before you praise someone for any work, think once if you have expertise in that work and how much you understand, try to talk and reply and never belittle anyone.

I appreciate Rikafip research, good work. continue your job. you are best man in Bitcointalk. All others are just junk and burden on this forum.

So you are comparing publically discused side bets between known members of gambling board who even leave neutral feedbacks about it, with bunch of Newbie accounts that spam bounty campaigns and nothing else and are notorious for having alt farms? GG.


I am well aware of bounty whales, but that address has 69 transactions in the last 6 months, meaning not really looking like someone who is buying out shitcoins en masse. On top of that, all those members keep sending tokens between themselves.


Another proof that there is something dodgy going on, previously tagged bounty abuser @shanto sending BNB between some familar names, and also to previously mentioned main address. Another coinkydink?




No you don't always need to back it up with social media links, believe it or not. Take for example this report made by a very experienced member (way more than you or me) when it comes to busting alts. He busted 7 accounts only by proving that they all sent tokens to the same address, and you can find many more similar reports by other members.


Well that's something that we can agree on.

It's not that it wasn't taken seriously, I'm sure all the members who were active in the thread also saw the post. Even the Op in the thread gave it a chance and didn't delete the post. that's something different because usually when something like that happens the Op has already deleted it.

In fact, there is nothing that prohibits beginners from creating or starting an investigation. but in that thread, there are restrictions with a purpose that we understand is for the good. no discrimination.
if you or the account in the post you share want to be seen by many people. find the bigger one, then you will get everyone's attention for your findings.

Just because I sent some bitcoin to your wallet does not imply that we are connected. It happens all the time on the gaming board with our side bets.


For your information, there are Bounty whales who buy these shitty tokens from bounty hunters for God knows what and this scenerior you just described happens all the time, which is why you always need to back it up with social media links to ensure it's more than just a Blockchain transaction. Believe it or not.

This conversation is leading nowhere- my last post here.

How can they be victims without realising? Someone took control of their wallets and sent tokens to the exact same address?

Use of the same social media links is irrelevant here since there is blockchain evidence, and it was already proved by OP that accounts in question applied for the same bounty campaign.

At this point I am not sure if you are trolling me or just ignorant how these things work, but I will assume the latter and give it one more try.

These transactions (as seen in the screenshot in my previous post) show that its most likely the same person behind all those accounts (or you think that its the coincidence that 3 different accounts send tokens to the same address in a matter of 3 minutes)  as that's what they do, gather tokens they get via bounty campaign and then send it to the main wallet, from which then they send it further, usually to an exchange. In this case, this farmer sent the money he made to Binance.

Mods don't deal with altcoin bounty abuse as for now that's what we are talking about here. Unless someone provides proof of ban evading as well. But I do agree that those who report these kind of stuff should put some effort into it, so others don't have to dig for proper evidence.

I saw the images and noticed the transactions, but what exactly does it prove? Couples of some junky bounty hunters may be victims of this without realising it; the most important thing is to determine whether these accounts also share social media links and whether they are abusing bounty job. If the OP wants to be taken seriously, he should put in some effort and present something that the mod can work with.

The only difference is whether you are capable of providing the evidence in a way so everyone can easily check it out and if it does, it will be accepted no matter from where it came.


Have you bothered to check his claims? I did and what I found is that those 5 accounts indeed sent tokens to the same address (0x9759d20AaCA9fd385CE081D9C0181a032fe2eC4A)  and 3 of them at basically the same time which means that they are most likely part of alt farm and chances are that more accounts can be found but tbh I got sick of that whack a mole game so not gonna bother finding them.

Here's the evidence, since OP wasn't able to do it in a proper way. What he doesn't know though is that at best these accounts can be tagged for abusing bounty campaign rules and that's about it, unless there's some evidence for ban evading which I also wouldn't be surprised if someone finds.

There will always be a difference between when a reputable person reports an account with proof and when a nobody newbie does; you have to be around here for a long time to know what's good or bad and how to report it, not just speculate. The OP is throwing mud at the wall and hoping it sticks.

Multiple accounts is allowed, and off-forum transactions do not prove anything. Op may not know this.

As a newbie, your focus shouldn't be so much about reporting anyways. You should be focusing on how the forum works, the rules, learning, and trying to be a contributing member of the community. If later you want to start learning how to report people, then go for it, but you should have a basic understanding of the place before worrying about it.

If you are hoping to get merit for reporting, that's not a smart start. Just my 2 cents

Maybe off topic, but I think this can be fit in here.! Otherwise SORRY!

It's definitely not.

Look at me for an example! I am a totally newbie here, but still enjoy the forum! Don't blame reputable users that carrying about this forum and want it to be a safe place.

Maybe you mean that "Signature Campaign only is for members"? to that answers it's YES. And of course that's the way it should be.
You or anyone else can't trust the person that last come in to the door and expect anything from him until he showed himself honest and friendly.

This forum is a perfect example of how life should work in general, of course it will be some trolls here but we got them in real life also, so no need to put any effort on them.
But this forum also is about behave good and with respect, and farm your way up to the top! You will earn some trust on the way, and maybe also friends? Then you maybe will be part of a family.

But what concerns you and me, we are newborns, we just need to keep grinding, be friendly and polite and we also get there at some point... Maybe a year or so.
If you don't have any patience you should look at another direction, but for me that love crypto but still fresh on it. This is paradise for me!

For example: If you wondering something about crypto, you can open a thread and I promise you, you will get at least 5 GOOD replies how to solve your situation. That's its ✨✨✨✨✨
Another good part, if you been here long enough you can join a signature campaign and earn some "free" money for just being yourself here.

Don't forget Rome was not built in a day! And so won't your reputation/account do here. Just be yourself, respect people even that disagree with you. And I promise you will enjoy your time here.


Sorry for long answers, but to be short. Satoshi created bitcoin for everyone! he also created this forum for everyone!

-BabyBandit-



Also had to quote this, more or less spot on.

If I must say, this forum is one of the best in terms of leniency, but we frown so much on plagiarism which many members who are banned are guilty of. As you have said, such like OP should know where the problem lies and stop opening multiple accounts and getting banned consistently. That even means that such a person lacks quality posting and might be guilty of many atrocities like multiple accounts, plagiarism, senseless and AI posts. Once the problem is identified and the OP could change, there shouldn't be any problem afterwards. But instead, such continues to flood the forum with new accounts and meaningless posts and still blame the forum for it.

Because the reporter doesn't take thread rules seriously. 
Look at this.
I rarely contribute to this cheater catching party, I think the contributors there are cooperative with the rules. If you have a good relationship with this reporter, tell him about this.

While you might be right right about OP being butthurt that he got busted, I don't think that there should be any difference whether Newbie or Legendary account reported someone, as long proper evidence is provided (for example, use of the same address). Mods should focus on the evidence and not who reported it.

Why is the mod going to believe someone who registered on the forum a few days ago and his first and only post on the forum is "alt accounts post"? It took a genuine newbie some time before playing forum cop. I guaranteed you that the OP's main account was busted and that he is currently simply witch hunting.


Cause newbies should be learning and not become a forum cop on their first week.

If you're very sure of what you're reporting you therefore need to bring concrete evidence to prove your case in the addresses connection to same person.

Bringing the issue to this side from where you first raised an alarm I would have expected you were bringing in with new convincing evidence which will make DT's or moderator to swift into action about your case.

The way I see it, pushing it further through a new account seems cowardice and a vent of vendetta making sure you meet your demands.  You need do more digging to be giving the degree of a red tag attention you were expecting.

It's not true to claim that reports from newbie members aren't taken seriously. The fact is, reports from more seasoned members usually adhere to the right format and tend to be more on point. Mods or admins usually ban forum members if they break some of our rules, like the plagiarism rule or ban evasion rule. But in your report, it's not clear which rule the accused member might be breaking, if any.

Because you usually submit it incompletely and without clear evidence. Like your report.


There are no more unregistered Legendary and Hero, only newbies are left to increase the number of members of this forum.


First, research about the reasons for banning accounts from this forum, and you will see that your insistence is pointless. So there won't be a ban, not because you're a newbie, but because it's pointless.

From what I can see, that report was made less than 2 days ago and just because those accounts were not yet banned you come here with this nonsense claim. Smh...

Fyi, it doesn't really matter who made a report, as long as its properly written with all the evidence needed so its easier for mods to look through the evidence.

To catch cheaters, is to protect the interest of campaign managers, the forum and forum sponsors. Even though it's a somewhat redundant and circular process, it shows who is dedicated to the forum, indirectly. It also:
- Has large demand (unfortunately this is also the cause of the problem).
- Creates posts in campaign threads and creates potential opportunity for catchers. It is favorable to allow posts, then ban them, instead of blocking new entry entirely.
- Members of the community are rewarded for finding and judging these cheaters (rightfully so, they are cheating after all).
- Campaign managers and advertisers award helping members for helping their interests and saving wasteful expenditure.

While redundant and inefficient, interrupting this circular process with an additional barrier of entry on top of cloudflare and javascript captcha which can easily deter new, legitimate users. A way to automate the catching process would solve a lot of the inefficiencies proven by the way things currently work. I wouldn't be surprised if one or more of the great minds of the forum aren't already working on something.


If you want the report to be taken seriously, add a lot more obvious detail to your report. Put some more effort into making the evidence clear. Right now, one has to visit every tx link to actually see all of the evidence. It's not in any way annotated, or formatted. That might be why your(?) report was not taken seriously or acted upon, or has not been acted upon yet.

You should not blame other members, especially those with high rankings, you should blame yourself for that matter....
The consequences:
1. Newbies don't understand Alt detective, unless the newbie who made the report has been on the forum for a long time and has a high ranking Alt account, it's just that they don't dare accuse Alt of being connected to their main account, that's what often happens, hiding behind the scenes.
2. Your report does not show valid evidence and the mistake is cheating in campaigns and so on, remember that you are allowed to have an Alt account on this forum, judge it based on valid evidence, You can't just use one piece of evidence (transactions). You have to look for other strong evidence that points to them really being deceptive/fraudulent.
3. You have already made a report about the Alt account in this thread: Topic: Known Alts of any-one - A User Generated List Mk IV (2023 Q4) [MODERATED] 🔬, But you do not comply with the rules in the thread, which state as follows.
* How do we here respond to all newbie reports, about Alt accounts, he himself did not mention what the beginner's mistake he reported was, Likewise, the evidence is invalid, it is unfair to judge them with one proof of transaction without a definite and reasonable explanation. And so on, report to the campaign manager, if you cheat, so they can take action.

* This forum is free for anyone who wants to register and join this forum, everyone here started from beginners, so what's the problem if beginners want to register and know more about Bitcoin and understand the existing forum rules, there is nothing wrong with beginners registering here.

* This is not true, you are wrong in this case, try visiting all the boards, especially the Bounty (Altcoin) board, there are billions of beginners partying and it's safe there, your accusation in freedom for high ranking members statement is not true, many high ranking members here are helping beginners to be more sportsmanlike and genius.

* It's not our authority, you read and understand these rules: Topic: Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ, before saying and ordering to block other members' accounts.

I hope that what I have said above can be a basic reference for you, before making suggestions and making accusations.

Some reports are created by newbies, especially if the account rank is high, to avoid any future drama. Therefore, the degree of seriousness in dealing with these reports depends on their strength and influence. Finding an account farm with many accounts that spam will have a greater impact than two newbies.
In general, he received neutral trust from one of DTs, and if you proved that he carried out some negative activities, I might give him negative trust. We cannot ban the account, only mods can, and here you must find that he broke one of the forum’s rules, such as plagiarism.

There are no clear abidance in your post. wallet transcation is not a big problem. Some of my friends work in this forum and constantly new friends and business partners of mine are taking entries here. I can take BTC, ETH, BNB from them if needed. It could be free, or I could buy from them so would you consider those accounts as mine for a transaction?

Suppose now I need $2 ETH to transfer some token if I want to buy this ETH from the exchange and bring it to my wallet then for $2 I have to waste $5+ because the exchange withdrawal fee is very high.  Again no withdrawal can be made without a minimum amount.  So how do I manage that $2?  If my friends use them then surely it would be wise for me to ask them for help.

So they cannot be clear evidence.  And a report by seniors is well monitored because they don't make a report without clear evidence like you did without understanding a matter  well.

Explain to me what's the problem?

Are you the poster aka @btctodamon? you make a report of alt accounts that participate in a same campaign, but you didn't get any merit? that's why you not happy, or;

Are you the cheater? but these five accounts not get any negative feedback yet which mean they can still able to participate in scam bounties.

If you check other reports there in that thread, you’ll see that they all stated if the accounts they were reporting cheated in any campaign or not. You should know that having more than one account here in the forum is not against any rule, the only time issue arise is when you start to use your alt account to participate in the same campaign that clearly stated that alts ain’t allowed.

So I’d suggest you go login to your main account edit your report and state of those account cheated or not, and also explain how they are connected because right now all I can see is a bunch of different wallet addresses and images which I have no clue what they are about so do well to include an explanation as to how those account are connected and I’m sure you’ll get help from one or two DT members in tagging them.

When I was actively trying to catch bounty cheaters I did receive a great advise back then and I’ll just quote it here ”if you believe your proofs are strong enough then you can proceed to leave a red tag for those account you don’t have to wait for a DT member to do it for you”.

One last thing before I go, if you read the rule of that thread you’ll notice that newbies ain’t allowed to make any report there (I’m not sure if the rule have been removed) so next time just create a new thread and make your report there and after that copy the link of your thread and post in the main cheaters report thread that way you’ll have members view your thread and give you the appropriate support that you need, and please don’t create a new thread for each report you can use one dedicated thread for all your reports.

why not member does not take newbie report seriosly. Why allow newbie to register. banned all newbie so you big member free, check below and bann all account