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nimda

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Quote from: J603 on August 19, 2013, 11:36:03 AM

Quote from: nimda on August 19, 2013, 11:04:04 AM

Quote from: J603 on August 19, 2013, 10:34:49 AM

Quote from: CrazyBit on August 17, 2013, 08:38:06 PM

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However, you only have one transaction on your trust list.

More transactions are required to increase the trust.

Not always. I have never seen a loan request by a hero or sr member that got rejected because of lack of transaction history. For some reason, people think that no one would want to "lose" a high level account, despite the fact that these accounts have no inherent value.

They may have no "inherent" value, but they have:

- High cost to create: hundreds of non-spam posts spread fairly evenly over a long period of time
- Non-zero resell value

However, can you point to an accepted loan request by a hero member who had no transaction history?

I can't even find a hero member asking for a loan request. However, my statement was that I've never seen a hero get rejected. I think that the burden of proof is on you.

Sure, at face value. But your statement has no meaning if there aren't any hero member loan requests. You took your statement and derived from it another one: 'people think that no one would want to "lose" a high level account, despite the fact that these accounts have no inherent value.' For that one, you have the burden of proof.

Here, I'll help you:
OgNasty loan request (Transaction history: NASTYMINING security)
Scott J loan request (Transaction history: in thread)
Tittiez loan request (Transaction history: lots - loans, moneypaks, etc
RandomQ loan request (Transaction history: lots - stocks, etc)
Usagi loan request - NOT FILLED (Transaction history: lots, but sometimes dubious)

So, here are some better statements to make:
"I have never seen a Hero Member without transaction history request a loan"
"I have seen a Hero Member get a loan request rejected"
"I have seen a Hero Member get a loan request rejected because it made no sense"

J603

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Activity: 196

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Quote from: nimda on August 19, 2013, 11:04:04 AM

Quote from: J603 on August 19, 2013, 10:34:49 AM

Quote from: CrazyBit on August 17, 2013, 08:38:06 PM

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However, you only have one transaction on your trust list.

More transactions are required to increase the trust.

Not always. I have never seen a loan request by a hero or sr member that got rejected because of lack of transaction history. For some reason, people think that no one would want to "lose" a high level account, despite the fact that these accounts have no inherent value.

They may have no "inherent" value, but they have:

- High cost to create: hundreds of non-spam posts spread fairly evenly over a long period of time
- Non-zero resell value

However, can you point to an accepted loan request by a hero member who had no transaction history?

I can't even find a hero member asking for a loan request. However, my statement was that I've never seen a hero get rejected. I think that the burden of proof is on you.

nimda

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Activity: 784

Merit: 1000

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Quote from: J603 on August 19, 2013, 10:34:49 AM

Quote from: CrazyBit on August 17, 2013, 08:38:06 PM

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However, you only have one transaction on your trust list.

More transactions are required to increase the trust.

Not always. I have never seen a loan request by a hero or sr member that got rejected because of lack of transaction history. For some reason, people think that no one would want to "lose" a high level account, despite the fact that these accounts have no inherent value.

They may have no "inherent" value, but they have:

- High cost to create: hundreds of non-spam posts spread fairly evenly over a long period of time
- Non-zero resell value

However, can you point to an accepted loan request by a hero member who had no transaction history?

J603

full member

Activity: 196

Merit: 100

Quote from: CrazyBit on August 17, 2013, 08:38:06 PM

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However, you only have one transaction on your trust list.

More transactions are required to increase the trust.

Not always. I have never seen a loan request by a hero or sr member that got rejected because of lack of transaction history. For some reason, people think that no one would want to "lose" a high level account, despite the fact that these accounts have no inherent value.

CrazyBit

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However, you only have one transaction on your trust list.

More transactions are required to increase the trust.

J603

full member

Activity: 196

Merit: 100

Quote from: DarkHyudrA on August 16, 2013, 10:09:59 AM

Quote from: J603 on August 16, 2013, 09:50:20 AM

Quote from: cornish_will on August 15, 2013, 11:21:41 AM

Quote from: DarkHyudrA on August 15, 2013, 10:56:29 AM

I think that I'll hide the Lending section, most of them are newbies and scammers looking for a loan...

What about the newbies who decide to lend loans???

Whats wrong with Newbies looking for a loan? Huh

just asking not trying to upset anyone

Will :-)

Apparently post count is what matters for trust, even though the biggest scammers were not newbies.

And those with huge post counts can just inflate it with useless quick posts.

Rarely a newbie will have a good or any OTC or reputation in the forum.
By being a Sr. Member or Hero has a higher chance of a history of successful trades.

Sometimes Sr. Members or Heroes do. But sometimes they don't. For example, I'm guessing if you asked for a small loan it would get lent without any questions, just because you are a senior member. However, you only have one transaction on your trust list.

DarkHyudrA

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Quote from: J603 on August 16, 2013, 09:50:20 AM

Quote from: cornish_will on August 15, 2013, 11:21:41 AM

Quote from: DarkHyudrA on August 15, 2013, 10:56:29 AM

I think that I'll hide the Lending section, most of them are newbies and scammers looking for a loan...

What about the newbies who decide to lend loans???

Whats wrong with Newbies looking for a loan? Huh

just asking not trying to upset anyone

Will :-)

Apparently post count is what matters for trust, even though the biggest scammers were not newbies.

And those with huge post counts can just inflate it with useless quick posts.

Rarely a newbie will have a good or any OTC or reputation in the forum.
By being a Sr. Member or Hero has a higher chance of a history of successful trades.

J603

full member

Activity: 196

Merit: 100

Quote from: cornish_will on August 15, 2013, 11:21:41 AM

Quote from: DarkHyudrA on August 15, 2013, 10:56:29 AM

I think that I'll hide the Lending section, most of them are newbies and scammers looking for a loan...

What about the newbies who decide to lend loans???

Whats wrong with Newbies looking for a loan? Huh

just asking not trying to upset anyone

Will :-)

Apparently post count is what matters for trust, even though the biggest scammers were not newbies.

And those with huge post counts can just inflate it with useless quick posts.

cornish_will

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