Pastebin-ed it once again just in case (with working links ofc):
http://jsbin.com/UfOjEQE/1/edit?output
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I don't want to be seen as a vendor who attacks other vendors.
I fail to see how listing facts can be seen as an attack.
The timeline is also on http://hashfast.org/Timeline
About HF having to do with this - after a really interesting chat with senseless i personally don't think this to be the case. I might be wrong as i'm continually proved to be, sure, we will find it out in the next months, after that he announces his projects... If, ever, etc.
About HF having to do with this - after a really interesting chat with senseless i personally don't think this to be the case. I might be wrong as i'm continually proved to be, sure, we will find it out in the next months, after that he announces his projects... If, ever, etc.
I don't want to viewed as an ass for I, too, have a project in the works that I don't...
Thus, only a link (albeit I was going to C & P it): http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BVWjrEMDopoJ:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D391251.0+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
At least, somebody grab and archive it for possible future use.
Apologies to only senseless if I'm somehow outta line.
~Bruno Kucinskas
Thus, only a link (albeit I was going to C & P it): http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:BVWjrEMDopoJ:https://bitcointalk.org/index.php%3Ftopic%3D391251.0+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
At least, somebody grab and archive it for possible future use.
Apologies to only senseless if I'm somehow outta line.
~Bruno Kucinskas
The reason I deleted my posts was due to a lack of professionalism. I should have thought first before making such statements, but did not at the time due to a lapse in judgement. In the coming weeks and months you may hear about project(s) I am involved in. I did not want my previous posts to reflect on said project(s) when inevitably and invariably my post history is analyzed. With regards to HashFast, I have decided to wait for the arrival of my device as opposed to seeking a refund or any other action.
Why the change of mind? I thought you were pro a legal action against HF.
In my opinion it's just going to be a waste of my time and energy for me to spend any more thinking/concerning myself about it. I would rather move on and pursue my own projects. You will understand when I'm able to release more details in the future.
The reason I deleted my posts was due to a lack of professionalism. I should have thought first before making such statements, but did not at the time due to a lapse in judgement. In the coming weeks and months you may hear about project(s) I am involved in. I did not want my previous posts to reflect on said project(s) when inevitably and invariably my post history is analyzed. With regards to HashFast, I have decided to wait for the arrival of my device as opposed to seeking a refund or any other action.
Care to share what seemed "non pro" in the excellent timeline (composed of verifiable facts) that you set up?
I don't want to be seen as a vendor who attacks other vendors.
The reason I deleted my posts was due to a lack of professionalism. I should have thought first before making such statements, but did not at the time due to a lapse in judgement. In the coming weeks and months you may hear about project(s) I am involved in. I did not want my previous posts to reflect on said project(s) when inevitably and invariably my post history is analyzed. With regards to HashFast, I have decided to wait for the arrival of my device as opposed to seeking a refund or any other action.
Care to share what seemed "non pro" in the excellent timeline (composed of verifiable facts) that you set up?
This is what I was thinking. It was very well written and all supported by sources and facts. You were helping out a lot of new and old bitcoiners with that post. Im happy to post it on my website
The reason I deleted my posts was due to a lack of professionalism. I should have thought first before making such statements, but did not at the time due to a lapse in judgement. In the coming weeks and months you may hear about project(s) I am involved in. I did not want my previous posts to reflect on said project(s) when inevitably and invariably my post history is analyzed. With regards to HashFast, I have decided to wait for the arrival of my device as opposed to seeking a refund or any other action.
Care to share what seemed "non pro" in the excellent timeline (composed of verifiable facts) that you set up?
The reason I deleted my posts was due to a lack of professionalism. I should have thought first before making such statements, but did not at the time due to a lapse in judgement. In the coming weeks and months you may hear about project(s) I am involved in. I did not want my previous posts to reflect on said project(s) when inevitably and invariably my post history is analyzed. With regards to HashFast, I have decided to wait for the arrival of my device as opposed to seeking a refund or any other action.
Why the change of mind? I thought you were pro a legal action against HF.
The reason I deleted my posts was due to a lack of professionalism. I should have thought first before making such statements, but did not at the time due to a lapse in judgement. In the coming weeks and months you may hear about project(s) I am involved in. I did not want my previous posts to reflect on said project(s) when inevitably and invariably my post history is analyzed. With regards to HashFast, I have decided to wait for the arrival of my device as opposed to seeking a refund or any other action.
Why is this thread "." Now??
Im rick James bitch...I dont know and thats what im trying to find out
Or more simply, he is getting ready for the legal action and doesn't want HF to have anything against him.
Interesting BUMP anyway.
Interesting BUMP anyway.
All he did was layout a timeline of facts...a lot of people thanked him cause they were going to pass the info along to their lawyers
BUMP.
Senseless, what happened to the Title and OP?!?
Senseless, what happened to the Title and OP?!?
I messaged him...im thinking hashfast paid him off
Baby Jet product page updated just now:
Stock count jumping was either HF testing the shopping cart and using up sales 100 times, or upping their first batch from 550 to 650 units...
Before:
After:
- Wording changed from "Shipments begin October 20-30" to "Shipments anticipated to begin: October 20-30"
- The stock count just jumped around 100!
- New single chip mock-up image
Stock count jumping was either HF testing the shopping cart and using up sales 100 times, or upping their first batch from 550 to 650 units...
Before:
After:
Anybody has ever seen a ToS version not covered here?
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale
(Especially early versions, from August / September, either from the web, or from emails.)
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale
(Especially early versions, from August / September, either from the web, or from emails.)
Did anyone post this yet... a copy of the original TOS on 8/8/2013?
Note the absence of the December 31st date that they stuck in our order confirmations a week later.
From the ToS:
So!
- How may I get a guaranteed delivery date while ordering, please ?
- In case I cancel my order, can I hope for a refund ?
- In case I cancel my order after you failed to deliver at a guaranteed date and you don't agree to send a written consent to acknowledge that cancellation, what happens ?
Quote
Except for delivery dates explicitly guaranteed in the order confirmation, delivery dates communicated or acknowledged by Hashfast are approximate only
Quote
Buyer will give Hashfast written notice of failure to deliver and thirty (30) days within which to cure, unless the order confirmation explicitly guarantees a delivery date
Quote
Buyer’s sole and exclusive remedy after such cure period or guaranteed delivery date is to cancel the affected and undelivered portions of the order.
the affected and undelivered portions of the order.Quote
No order, Agreement or any part thereof may be rescheduled or cancelled without Hashfast’s prior written consent.
So!
- How may I get a guaranteed delivery date while ordering, please ?
- In case I cancel my order, can I hope for a refund ?
- In case I cancel my order after you failed to deliver at a guaranteed date and you don't agree to send a written consent to acknowledge that cancellation, what happens ?
Quote
HashFast’s Golden Nonce GN ASIC successfully taped-out yesterday, Wednesday the 28th, and has been released for 28nm fabrication to a well-known, leading-edge foundry. More details will follow in next week’s joint press release.
http://hashfast.com/tapeout/Doesn't leave many doubts to me, right?
What's the source for "Tape out did not happen until Sept 6th"? Since that i ordered before that and one of the main reason was that they already announced the tapeout, i would like to know more about it.
http://hashfast.com/hashfast-and-uniquify-announce-tape-out-of-golden-nonce-bitcoin-network-transaction-verification-chip-to-tsmcs-28hpm-process/
http://hashfast.com/tapeout/
http://hashfast.com/hashfast-and-uniquify-announce-tape-out-of-golden-nonce-bitcoin-network-transaction-verification-chip-to-tsmcs-28hpm-process/
http://hashfast.com/tapeout/
They started talking like tape out was imminent on Aug. 20th in blog posts and forum messages. It didn't actually happen for another 8-9 days though. Perhaps that is what you are thinking of.
http://hashfast.com/countdown-to-tapeout/
What's the source for "Tape out did not happen until Sept 6th"? Since that i ordered before that and one of the main reason was that they already announced the tapeout, i would like to know more about it.
http://hashfast.com/hashfast-and-uniquify-announce-tape-out-of-golden-nonce-bitcoin-network-transaction-verification-chip-to-tsmcs-28hpm-process/
http://hashfast.com/tapeout/
Thanks.
http://hashfast.com/hashfast-and-uniquify-announce-tape-out-of-golden-nonce-bitcoin-network-transaction-verification-chip-to-tsmcs-28hpm-process/
http://hashfast.com/tapeout/
Thanks.
Here are the deleted posts of HashFast-related accounts. Some of these may have been deleted by moderators.
Notice how you deleted the quote that proves you wrong? I'll add it again. It's only 6 words. I know a couple of them have a lot of letters, but try reading it again.
That quote is completely irrelevant.
The only thing that matters is the Terms of Sale, which states Dec 31 is the guaranteed delivery date.
The Terms of Sale do not include your completely irrelevant quite, which is from an insecure internet forum of all things.
Cointerra promised mid December delivery.
It is now mid-December, but their chips aren't even finished.
Cointerra failed; they over-promised a mid-Dec date and under-delivered a late-Jan date instead.
Cointerra knew they couldn't delivery in Dec. They lied to get our money and we will prove it when we sue them for fraud and false advertising.
Does this upgrade include MPP, would we get up to 4x the 800GH/s ?
Unfortunately, at that price, we cannot offer the Miner Protection Program.
-John
Hi Melbus,
These are great questions. I just sent them to engienering, so as to get the best possible answers. I will post here soon.
-John
Hi, Cara tells me this is resolved. Please let me know if you ahve anyt further issues. Thanks for your business!
- John
Thanks!
Details are going to have to wait until after tapeout. (Engineering is busy right now)
However, we want to encourage others to design rigs for our chips and we are excited about what this community will do with them!
-John
Can you post details of chip communication, pin out, PCB designs, etc to github so that we can get started on designing rigs? It's pretty clear [for anyone who can do basic math] that your MPP is going to be triggered. Those who will be receiving bare chips as part of the MPP will need the additional boards.
Thanks
I can assure you that we will, but not until after tapeout, which is very very soon.
-John
HashFast promised (and still promises) delivery by Dec 31.
Notice how you deleted the quote that proves you wrong? I'll add it again. It's only 6 words. I know a couple of them have a lot of letters, but try reading it again.
That quote is completely irrelevant.
The only thing that matters is the Terms of Sale, which states Dec 31 is the guaranteed delivery date.
The Terms of Sale do not include your completely irrelevant quite, which is from an insecure internet forum of all things.
Cointerra promised mid December delivery.
It is now mid-December, but their chips aren't even finished.
Cointerra failed; they over-promised a mid-Dec date and under-delivered a late-Jan date instead.
Cointerra knew they couldn't delivery in Dec. They lied to get our money and we will prove it when we sue them for fraud and false advertising.
Yes, orders can be transferred, but the Miner Protection Program cannot be sold, licensed or transferred by a customer.
This is clearly listed here: https://hashfast.com/miner-protection-program/
-John
This is clearly listed here: https://hashfast.com/miner-protection-program/
-John
HashFast Technologies is unaware of a deal being done with any entity that would be able to offer these items for sale at these prices with such assurances on any HashFast products.
-John
-John
We've got two powerful pieces of news today for our miners!
https://hashfast.com/were-upping-the-power-on-hashfast-rigs/
-John
https://hashfast.com/were-upping-the-power-on-hashfast-rigs/
-John
Does this upgrade include MPP, would we get up to 4x the 800GH/s ?
Unfortunately, at that price, we cannot offer the Miner Protection Program.
-John
So, I think where I'm looking for more clarity is:
1) Cost of the board/rig required to run additional chips if the MPP gets executed. Do we have a parts manifest for this yet, or a price to outright buy a pre-assembled rig from Hashfast?
2) If anyone from Batch-1 gets additional chips from the MPP, everyone should. Otherwise, there can be situations in which people who are ahead in the shipment queue actually do worse. For example, let's say that the 1st BabyJet from batch-1 goes out on October 25th and has made a slight profit by Jan 23rd; under the current MPP verbiage as I read it, that means no new chips for Owner #1. Let's further say that the 500th BabyJet from batch-1 goes out November 25th, but has just barely not covered costs by Feb 22nd. In this case, the owner of the 500th gets new chips for free, but the owner of the 1st still doesn't. Given the low power consumption of BabyJets, they'll likely be worth running for quite some time, so over that lifetime, the owner of the 500th probably does better. It depends on the exact nature of how the overall network hash-rate curve develops, of course, but it seems to me that the fairest thing to do is to execute the MPP across the entire Batch; ie, if anyone from the batch gets more chips, everyone should.
Can we get some clarity/comments on the above?
In any event, HF seems to be doing great work. Tape-out ~10 days ago, plus the TSMC announcement...good stuff.
1) Cost of the board/rig required to run additional chips if the MPP gets executed. Do we have a parts manifest for this yet, or a price to outright buy a pre-assembled rig from Hashfast?
2) If anyone from Batch-1 gets additional chips from the MPP, everyone should. Otherwise, there can be situations in which people who are ahead in the shipment queue actually do worse. For example, let's say that the 1st BabyJet from batch-1 goes out on October 25th and has made a slight profit by Jan 23rd; under the current MPP verbiage as I read it, that means no new chips for Owner #1. Let's further say that the 500th BabyJet from batch-1 goes out November 25th, but has just barely not covered costs by Feb 22nd. In this case, the owner of the 500th gets new chips for free, but the owner of the 1st still doesn't. Given the low power consumption of BabyJets, they'll likely be worth running for quite some time, so over that lifetime, the owner of the 500th probably does better. It depends on the exact nature of how the overall network hash-rate curve develops, of course, but it seems to me that the fairest thing to do is to execute the MPP across the entire Batch; ie, if anyone from the batch gets more chips, everyone should.
Can we get some clarity/comments on the above?
In any event, HF seems to be doing great work. Tape-out ~10 days ago, plus the TSMC announcement...good stuff.
Hi Melbus,
These are great questions. I just sent them to engienering, so as to get the best possible answers. I will post here soon.
-John
still waiting for more information regarding their chip and foundry before taking the leap. I still remember back when Avalon started, they had their TSMC contract for all to see which was great.
Hi, Cara tells me this is resolved. Please let me know if you ahve anyt further issues. Thanks for your business!
- John
As a Group Buy Coordinator of 1 co-op owned HashFast BabyJet, I am pleased with the terms and conditions of your MPP. I like the transparency and level of detail.
It should serve as a model for future ASIC rig pre-orders IMO. Anything you can add about the Motherboard specs/availability and institutional pricing for said Mommy boards? [IT Birds N Bees - "See son: "Baby computers are made when a Daddy board and a Mommy board fall in love and..."]
Could be an entrepreneurial opportunity there for someone.
It should serve as a model for future ASIC rig pre-orders IMO. Anything you can add about the Motherboard specs/availability and institutional pricing for said Mommy boards? [IT Birds N Bees - "See son: "Baby computers are made when a Daddy board and a Mommy board fall in love and..."]
Could be an entrepreneurial opportunity there for someone.
Thanks!
Details are going to have to wait until after tapeout. (Engineering is busy right now)
However, we want to encourage others to design rigs for our chips and we are excited about what this community will do with them!
-John
Can you post details of chip communication, pin out, PCB designs, etc to github so that we can get started on designing rigs? It's pretty clear [for anyone who can do basic math] that your MPP is going to be triggered. Those who will be receiving bare chips as part of the MPP will need the additional boards.
Thanks
I can assure you that we will, but not until after tapeout, which is very very soon.
-John
Hi Everyone,
This is a statement from Uniquify Inc, one of the world's leading ASIC deisgn firms, and our exclusive ASIC deisgn partner.
Subscribe on our website for upcoming product details, or hit me up directly with questions.
More to come...
Cheers,
John Skrodenis
HashFast.com
This is a statement from Uniquify Inc, one of the world's leading ASIC deisgn firms, and our exclusive ASIC deisgn partner.
Subscribe on our website for upcoming product details, or hit me up directly with questions.
More to come...
Cheers,
John Skrodenis
HashFast.com
Hi Everyone,
This is a statement from Uniquify Inc, one of the leading ASIC deisgn firms in the world. They are our exclusive ASIC design partner.
Subscribe on our website to receive product notifications, or hit me up directly with questions.
More to come...
Cheers,
John Skrodenis
HashFast.com
This is a statement from Uniquify Inc, one of the leading ASIC deisgn firms in the world. They are our exclusive ASIC design partner.
Subscribe on our website to receive product notifications, or hit me up directly with questions.
More to come...
Cheers,
John Skrodenis
HashFast.com
Have they even been issued a subpoena by anyone yet?
Wouldn't someone have to sue them first?
This needs to be added to the scam timeline:
More preorders.
Credits for this goes to someone willing to stay out of all this mess.
More preorders.
Credits for this goes to someone willing to stay out of all this mess.
Anybody has ever seen a ToS version not covered here?
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale
(Especially early versions, from August / September, either from the web, or from emails.)
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale
(Especially early versions, from August / September, either from the web, or from emails.)
Where is the 8/16/13 "Cara @ Support" quote coming from, by the way?
Get in touch with jjiimm_64 he has the original email.
first post! https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--391251
Where is the 8/16/13 "Cara @ Support" quote coming from, by the way?
Get in touch with jjiimm_64 he has the original email.
We are trying to sort out all versions and modifications of the terms of sale,
and publish it here:
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale
We need more data points.
If you got an order confirmation letter after a purchase you have made in august,
with a Terms of Sale attached to it, or you have a web snapshot from a date not
already mentioned at the above page, could you please publish it?
(Or send me?)
* * *
Please note that this is important, because these terms are most likely going to be base of any legal claims.
One thing is already apparent: at least in some cases, the ToS versions they have sent out in order confirmation emails do not seem to be the same version which was present on the web when the order was made.
We have web snapshots from both the 25th and the 28th of August, here:
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale/25_August_2013
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale/28_August_2013
The changes between these versions are minimal:
Changed: Spelling: Hashfast -> HastFast
Added: terms for wire transfer payment
However, at least the versions sent out in order confirmation mails for orders made around the 26th of August are totally different:
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale/27_August_2013
There are many differences.
(Full analysis coming later.)
We need more data points, so please publish what you have.
and publish it here:
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale
We need more data points.
If you got an order confirmation letter after a purchase you have made in august,
with a Terms of Sale attached to it, or you have a web snapshot from a date not
already mentioned at the above page, could you please publish it?
(Or send me?)
* * *
Please note that this is important, because these terms are most likely going to be base of any legal claims.
One thing is already apparent: at least in some cases, the ToS versions they have sent out in order confirmation emails do not seem to be the same version which was present on the web when the order was made.
We have web snapshots from both the 25th and the 28th of August, here:
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale/25_August_2013
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale/28_August_2013
The changes between these versions are minimal:
Changed: Spelling: Hashfast -> HastFast
Added: terms for wire transfer payment
However, at least the versions sent out in order confirmation mails for orders made around the 26th of August are totally different:
http://hashfast.org/Terms_of_Sale/27_August_2013
There are many differences.
(Full analysis coming later.)
We need more data points, so please publish what you have.
demonstrate a best effort to deliver if they end up in court.
With that email? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. 
Now they claim they were "shipping" in 2013: http://hashfast.com/were-shipping-2013/
You and I both know this is just propaganda. At the same time they announced they were shipping to the world they sent out the letter to customers stating that they were not shipping. It is just for show, so it appears they met their targets and demonstrate a best effort to deliver if they end up in court.
If the current 30 day delay is because of needing to book new slots with CIARA for assembly then why not just ship out the bare modules and/or kits?
Do you think that in 30 days they can't find an alternative to CIARA? For all of that money? Nah.... 
I run a computer shop and build a lot of custom machines. We get cases in single boxed all the time and I would say at least 2/3 of them are damaged
in some way. Shipping a piece of equipment *that* expensive that way is just... wow.
Glad I did not order one now.
in some way. Shipping a piece of equipment *that* expensive that way is just... wow.
Glad I did not order one now.
I wish they would've just shipped us the boards and let us get our own cases, psus, etc and refunded us some btc.
^this
If the current 30 day delay is because of needing to book new slots with CIARA for assembly then why not just ship out the bare modules and/or kits?
Perhaps customers that opt in to self-assemble a kit can actually get some hardware shipped now?
Now they claim they were "shipping" in 2013: http://hashfast.com/were-shipping-2013/
They at least have boxes...
They at least have boxes...
The units are going to get damaged in shipping because they didn't double box before shipping. Expect units with PSUs stripped out of socket, boards stripped out of socket, cracked pcbs, and leaking radiators.
"Might" is a better term, I've seen newegg ship tens of ATX cases without double boxing...
I had one that was bent quite badly in the PSU carriage but the shipping cost back was almost 3/5 of the total cost so I said screw it.
For Baby Jets, they've done quite possibly the most retarded thing ever, strip a $200 Corsair case and add their own custom logos, then put only one module in it when it holds two (or is that three?) and give a royal fuck you to caring about postage costs, when they could have shipped a machine one third the size and almost half the weight for what is in the case...
Now they claim they were "shipping" in 2013: http://hashfast.com/were-shipping-2013/
They at least have boxes...
They at least have boxes...
I just got a really funny newsletter about hashfast. Posted it here
http://theamericanbitcoincompany.com/bitcoin-gossip/
http://theamericanbitcoincompany.com/bitcoin-gossip/
I think ScamFast is using puppet accounts to downvote this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
Now we're moving from scam accusations to conspiracy theories?
That is not good for the Custom Hardware sub's signal/noise ratio.
Which is why the rules say:
Quote
If you feel you need to investigate a party that has scammed you, take it to the scam accusation sub-forum.
If you put half as much effort into gaining actual knowledge about BTC mining as you do exploiting, harassing and lying to customers you wouldn't look like such a Clue Less company Cheer Leader.
The definition of a liaison from
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/liaison
Quote
li·ai·son noun \ˈlē-ə-ˌzän, lē-ˈā-, ÷ˈlā-ə-\
: a person who helps organizations or groups to work together and provide information to each other
: a relationship that allows different organizations or groups to work together and provide information to each other
: a secret sexual relationship
: a person who helps organizations or groups to work together and provide information to each other
: a relationship that allows different organizations or groups to work together and provide information to each other
: a secret sexual relationship
Let's see how well you qualify:
1st definition: Epic Fail... constantly ignores requests for details on specs, exact shipment dates, and true production status.
2nd definition: AYFKM? lol
3rd definition: Now you and the scammers you represent definitely have given your customers a royal screwing so I suppose this definition applies best.
All you have managed to accomplish with your deflection, distraction and intelligence-insulting tactics and lies is to further inflame the victims of your scams.
Stellar job! So far you are pretty much the polar opposite of a community liaison.
IRT taking our very valid complaints to the scamming sub-forum... be careful what you wish for.
Can you clarify something for me?
Is hashfast a scam because they took the preorder btc, saved some, and are going to only refund the amount of btc at the current rate (instead of when the pre-orders paid)?
Or because they aren't able to ship?
Did anyone confirm that they have a working product?
Its mostly because they lied so much, their original posts indicated that if refunds would be issued it would be full BTC refunds which is why people made their purchases, but are now going against that saying it will be in BTC at current rates. And of course other things they said that changed over time with little to no warning. Is hashfast a scam because they took the preorder btc, saved some, and are going to only refund the amount of btc at the current rate (instead of when the pre-orders paid)?
Or because they aren't able to ship?
Did anyone confirm that they have a working product?
Can you clarify something for me?
Is hashfast a scam because they took the preorder btc, saved some, and are going to only refund the amount of btc at the current rate (instead of when the pre-orders paid)?
Or because they aren't able to ship?
Did anyone confirm that they have a working product?
Is hashfast a scam because they took the preorder btc, saved some, and are going to only refund the amount of btc at the current rate (instead of when the pre-orders paid)?
Or because they aren't able to ship?
Did anyone confirm that they have a working product?
I think ScamFast is using puppet accounts to downvote this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
Now we're moving from scam accusations to conspiracy theories?
That is not good for the Custom Hardware sub's signal/noise ratio.
Which is why the rules say:
Quote
If you feel you need to investigate a party that has scammed you, take it to the scam accusation sub-forum.
Don't pull a Josh/BFL. Come clean and fix the problems you and your company have. That is the ONLY course of action to get people to trust your company. Do not go down this road. Take every challenge you are being presented and FIX it don't turn and lay blame or deflect. Fix it.
I think ScamFast is using puppet accounts to downvote this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
Now we're moving from scam accusations to conspiracy theories?
That is not good for the Custom Hardware sub's signal/noise ratio.
Which is why the rules say:
Quote
If you feel you need to investigate a party that has scammed you, take it to the scam accusation sub-forum.
Hey look there you are again, not shipping my miners but harassing the people you robbed. Earning your paycheck heh, overtime for the holiday? Sure HF can afford it with all the $ they stole.
I think ScamFast is using puppet accounts to downvote this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
Now we're moving from scam accusations to conspiracy theories?
That is not good for the Custom Hardware sub's signal/noise ratio.
Which is why the rules say:
Quote
If you feel you need to investigate a party that has scammed you, take it to the scam accusation sub-forum.
Quote
this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2013
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55 upvotes 24 downvotes
I think ScamFast is using puppet accounts to downvote this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
reddit's algorithim generates fake downvotes automatically
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this post was submitted on 31 Dec 2013
31 points (69% like it)
55 upvotes 24 downvotes
31 points (69% like it)
55 upvotes 24 downvotes
I think ScamFast is using puppet accounts to downvote this.
Come people, let's get some more upvotes on this.
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they also sent out an email today to non customers saying that they are about to ship so purchase now before the prices get raised
Could you share that here.? Edit : here ;
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Don't Miss Out!
As shipping is about to begin, prices in the HashFast Store will soon increase dramatically.
Take advantage of the prices of Baby Jets and Sierras available now. They won't last long!
Payments must be received by 5PM PST Jan 3rd.
As shipping is about to begin, prices in the HashFast Store will soon increase dramatically.
Take advantage of the prices of Baby Jets and Sierras available now. They won't last long!
Payments must be received by 5PM PST Jan 3rd.
Now THAT is a ponzi scheme. They are trying to take new orders to pay back the people that want refunds, and there is your partial. Just despicable...
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2894446
8/8/2013 cypherdoc's HF shill thread where Simon Barber endorses BTC refunds.
8/8/2013 cypherdoc's HF shill thread where Simon Barber endorses BTC refunds.
Share links for ToS versions if yall have them
heres version 1.B
http://pastebin.com/EfS9vmRf
version 1.F
http://pastebin.com/SFzPH8AK
heres version 1.B
http://pastebin.com/EfS9vmRf
version 1.F
http://pastebin.com/SFzPH8AK
Cheers. Yeah my bad. Page was in a new tab on my mobile and forgot to refresh for new posts before posting.
And these records should be uploaded or made viewable on a 3rd party website like on a hashfastscamevidence.com or something like that.
no problem.. guess I am getting a little snippy with all the HF crap....
On another note, the coins I sent them were at the following address, which had about 33k bitcoins
https://blockchain.info/address/17hCi8apMUkzzLLJgUwfXxRJuykuo5Lcur
I am not very good at following the chain.. maybe someone can figure out if they have a stash still?
Cheers. Yeah my bad. Page was in a new tab on my mobile and forgot to refresh for new posts before posting.
And these records should be uploaded or made viewable on a 3rd party website like on a hashfastscamevidence.com or something like that.
no problem.. guess I am getting a little snippy with all the HF crap....
On another note, the coins I sent them were at the following address, which had about 33k bitcoins
https://blockchain.info/address/17hCi8apMUkzzLLJgUwfXxRJuykuo5Lcur
I am not very good at following the chain.. maybe someone can figure out if they have a stash still?
You guys should probably save down all the stuff they've sent or typed out. They can easily just delete everything and none of you would have a copy of their btctalk posts.
please read: before you post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--391251
Cheers. Yeah my bad. Page was in a new tab on my mobile and forgot to refresh for new posts before posting.
And these records should be uploaded or made viewable on a 3rd party website like on a hashfastscamevidence.com or something like that.
You guys should probably save down all the stuff they've sent or typed out. They can easily just delete everything and none of you would have a copy of their btctalk posts.
please read: before you post https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--391251
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they also sent out an email today to non customers saying that they are about to ship so purchase now before the prices get raised
Could you share that here.? Edit : here ;
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Don't Miss Out!
As shipping is about to begin, prices in the HashFast Store will soon increase dramatically.
Take advantage of the prices of Baby Jets and Sierras available now. They won't last long!
Payments must be received by 5PM PST Jan 3rd.
As shipping is about to begin, prices in the HashFast Store will soon increase dramatically.
Take advantage of the prices of Baby Jets and Sierras available now. They won't last long!
Payments must be received by 5PM PST Jan 3rd.
Did they really not BCC everyone? wtf.
No, all hashfast customer emails were leaked. If the users had gmail addresses you could scroll over their address in gmail to get their name, work, schooling, etc.
This was in violation of their privacy policy and they did not notify customers via email of the leak (Which i'm pretty sure is in violation of law in US and elsewhere).
I don't know what they're playing, it seems they're doing everything to stir shit. I'm getting scarred not to get my stuff delivered before some mad man blow a fuse on them.
Dec 27 : Send the following email accompanied with the list of all their customers email address as CC.
Dec 29 : Send the following email without even warning us about / apologizing for the previous private information leakage.
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3PM PST (GMT-8), DECEMBER 27TH, 2013
Dear Customers,
Our apologies for not communicating more often these past days. We have been going all-out on production in order to ship Batch 1 units by December 31.
We have enough GN chips in hand for all Batch 1 orders. We also have enough hardware (boxes, cooling systems, power supplies, etc.) on hand for all batch 1 orders.
We are in the final stages of production. Our initial modules (Rev 0) had reliability issues due to the PCB layout (Printed Circuit Boards). We received Rev 2 PCBs this morning and they are currently being assembled.
We expect these rev2 PCBs to work well, and to begin bulk production and be on track to ship batch 1 orders December 31.
The remaining steps (assembling the modules into the Sierra or Baby Jet chassis, packaging and shipping) are quick and generally very predictable process.
Please know we are doing everything possible to get you your orders as soon as we can.
We will update you with our progress as it happens. Stay tuned to Twitter and our HashFast Blog for the most up to date news.
Many Thanks & Happy Holidays,
The HashFast Team
Dear Customers,
Our apologies for not communicating more often these past days. We have been going all-out on production in order to ship Batch 1 units by December 31.
We have enough GN chips in hand for all Batch 1 orders. We also have enough hardware (boxes, cooling systems, power supplies, etc.) on hand for all batch 1 orders.
We are in the final stages of production. Our initial modules (Rev 0) had reliability issues due to the PCB layout (Printed Circuit Boards). We received Rev 2 PCBs this morning and they are currently being assembled.
We expect these rev2 PCBs to work well, and to begin bulk production and be on track to ship batch 1 orders December 31.
The remaining steps (assembling the modules into the Sierra or Baby Jet chassis, packaging and shipping) are quick and generally very predictable process.
Please know we are doing everything possible to get you your orders as soon as we can.
We will update you with our progress as it happens. Stay tuned to Twitter and our HashFast Blog for the most up to date news.
Many Thanks & Happy Holidays,
The HashFast Team
Dec 29 : Send the following email without even warning us about / apologizing for the previous private information leakage.
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Hi Everyone,
We will be kicking off Batch 1 shipments in the next few days. Stay tuned for more updates from HashFast engineering on twitter.
Batch 1 customers who would like to initiate a voluntary refund request, can do so by sending the following information to: [email protected]. Please note this is a request only and not a guarantee of refund eligibility. As orders were priced in USD, refunds will be issued in the equivalent amount of USD. If a refund is to be paid in BTC, the USD to BTC market exchange rate on the date of refund will be used to calculate the amount of BTC to be refunded.
Batch 1 Order number
Product & Quantities for your order. If you have multiple orders please group by order number.
Full Name
Shipping Address
Method of Payment (wire transfer, direct BTC transfer, bitpay)
Confirmation that you understand USD order totals that were originally paid with BTC can be refunded in BTC at the USD to BTC market exchange rate on the date of refund.
Next, our customer service team will deliver you the necessary documents to complete the refund request, which you will need to sign and return to us.
Please direct questions regarding this process and items 1-6 to [email protected] Subject line: REFUND QUESTION.
ONLY EMAIL [email protected] if you are sure you want to request a refund and can provide the information specified in #1-5 above plus your confirmation to #6 also above.
We hope everyone is enjoying the holidays. Again please visit us on twitter for the latest HashFast engineering updates.
Happy Holidays!
The HashFast Team
We will be kicking off Batch 1 shipments in the next few days. Stay tuned for more updates from HashFast engineering on twitter.
Batch 1 customers who would like to initiate a voluntary refund request, can do so by sending the following information to: [email protected]. Please note this is a request only and not a guarantee of refund eligibility. As orders were priced in USD, refunds will be issued in the equivalent amount of USD. If a refund is to be paid in BTC, the USD to BTC market exchange rate on the date of refund will be used to calculate the amount of BTC to be refunded.
Batch 1 Order number
Product & Quantities for your order. If you have multiple orders please group by order number.
Full Name
Shipping Address
Method of Payment (wire transfer, direct BTC transfer, bitpay)
Confirmation that you understand USD order totals that were originally paid with BTC can be refunded in BTC at the USD to BTC market exchange rate on the date of refund.
Next, our customer service team will deliver you the necessary documents to complete the refund request, which you will need to sign and return to us.
Please direct questions regarding this process and items 1-6 to [email protected] Subject line: REFUND QUESTION.
ONLY EMAIL [email protected] if you are sure you want to request a refund and can provide the information specified in #1-5 above plus your confirmation to #6 also above.
We hope everyone is enjoying the holidays. Again please visit us on twitter for the latest HashFast engineering updates.
Happy Holidays!
The HashFast Team
For other lazier people, you might want to link the "Contradict's Simon's postings from august." comment with the specific post where Simon wrote about it earlier.
We should probably pull website archives with the changing ToS now in the event they fiddle with robots.txt and make it less accessible for us plebs.
(Edit) Oh, and a full bitcointalk message archive would go a long way towards detecting history-edits too. A good in-browser one with search capabilities is Zotero. I prefer that over just doing MAFF type archives.
We should probably pull website archives with the changing ToS now in the event they fiddle with robots.txt and make it less accessible for us plebs.
(Edit) Oh, and a full bitcointalk message archive would go a long way towards detecting history-edits too. A good in-browser one with search capabilities is Zotero. I prefer that over just doing MAFF type archives.
Done.
All of this needs to be recorded as they could just delete every single message they've ever made. If someone can catalog all of this information, would appreciate it. My brain is tired from hours of parsing bullshit and lies.
Is it possible for a moderator to lock or somehow prevent any deletions?
For other lazier people, you might want to link the "Contradict's Simon's postings from august." comment with the specific post where Simon wrote about it earlier.
We should probably pull website archives with the changing ToS now in the event they fiddle with robots.txt and make it less accessible for us plebs.
(Edit) Oh, and a full bitcointalk message archive would go a long way towards detecting history-edits too. A good in-browser one with search capabilities is Zotero. I prefer that over just doing MAFF type archives.
We should probably pull website archives with the changing ToS now in the event they fiddle with robots.txt and make it less accessible for us plebs.
(Edit) Oh, and a full bitcointalk message archive would go a long way towards detecting history-edits too. A good in-browser one with search capabilities is Zotero. I prefer that over just doing MAFF type archives.
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