I didnt post this screenshot before, because this seemed totally irrelevant. We mainly chat with his other telegram which screenshots I have posted earlier.
But you can see this telegram messaged me on July19 that he is HexoStan (his main telegram ID, screenshots are posted before in this thread including elmanchez PM to me where he confirmed that he is HexoStan.
The reason he messaged to me with this telegram @JamyNRK (earlier @webcelerator) was that he wanted to prove that he is the owner of trusted account Webcelerator (banned account and he couldnt PM me with this)
So its pretty clear they are same person.
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Got his new account. Profile https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jasonclauch-2833487
I was searching smth from my telegram chats and randomly saw that he has changed his telegram ID, but he keeped chat with me so I know its our guy Webcelerator aka fantom1962 aka Webcelerator. aka fantom1962. aka elmanchez
I have this telegram chat from 19 July when I exposed elmanchez was multiaccounting and ban evading.
JasonClauch profile is created on 24th July
archived for telegram ID reference https://archive.is/HFTJ8
I was searching smth from my telegram chats and randomly saw that he has changed his telegram ID, but he keeped chat with me so I know its our guy Webcelerator aka fantom1962 aka Webcelerator. aka fantom1962. aka elmanchez
I have this telegram chat from 19 July when I exposed elmanchez was multiaccounting and ban evading.
JasonClauch profile is created on 24th July
of course lol, free money !
pm me in telegram @JamyNRK
pm me in telegram @JamyNRK
archived for telegram ID reference https://archive.is/HFTJ8
If the mod who handled the report read only the original post and didn't read all the replies, there is no way he would figure out you reported it for ban evasion.
He would think you reported it for scamming which is what this topic is about. Scams are not moderated, so he would mark it as bad and move on.
I suggest you report it again and clearly state you are reporting it for ban evasion and add links of the connected accounts, just to make things easier.
He would think you reported it for scamming which is what this topic is about. Scams are not moderated, so he would mark it as bad and move on.
I suggest you report it again and clearly state you are reporting it for ban evasion and add links of the connected accounts, just to make things easier.
Thanks for your advice. Its done again.
flag supported.
His last post was made 15 days ago so I suppose he doesn't care about this account anymore or how many negative feedbacks it gets.
Don't know why his account is not banned yet! Did OP report it correctly and mentioned the reason behind reporting the PM (ban evasion)?
I reported private message which he sent to me and added this thread link.
another elmanchez alt is ZIZNET
profile https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ziznet-2833017
someone sent me this screenshot in telegram
If you check this topic first page screenshots then elmanchez contacted with me using telegram screen name Hexo Stan
and now there is telegram ID ZIZNET, screenname Hexo Stan and forum new user in forum ZIZNET
Coincidence? I dont think so..
profile https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/ziznet-2833017
someone sent me this screenshot in telegram
If you check this topic first page screenshots then elmanchez contacted with me using telegram screen name Hexo Stan
and now there is telegram ID ZIZNET, screenname Hexo Stan and forum new user in forum ZIZNET
Coincidence? I dont think so..
Another account connected.
username HonestCat
profile - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/honestcat-2827941
In the same time when I talked with elmanchez on telegram he told me that he will message me from Webcelerator official telegram.
Check this https://i.imgur.com/4slknla.jpg
In this thread HonestCat posted his chat in telegram with same name "Jannet" (he changed webcelerator to jannet, but didnt delete our chat)
I removed most of irrelevant stuff. Original post can be seen here http://archive.vn/5rYr5
Also it is well known that elmanchez is russian or atleast speak russian.
HonestCat does aswell.
username HonestCat
profile - https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/honestcat-2827941
In the same time when I talked with elmanchez on telegram he told me that he will message me from Webcelerator official telegram.
Check this https://i.imgur.com/4slknla.jpg
In this thread HonestCat posted his chat in telegram with same name "Jannet" (he changed webcelerator to jannet, but didnt delete our chat)
screenshot.
He also deleted his message in my branch and telegram and blocked me.
screenshot.
He also deleted his message in my branch and telegram and blocked me.
screenshot.
I removed most of irrelevant stuff. Original post can be seen here http://archive.vn/5rYr5
Also it is well known that elmanchez is russian or atleast speak russian.
HonestCat does aswell.
@HonestzCat
пишитe, ecть oпыт в этoй cфepe
пишитe, ecть oпыт в этoй cфepe
Got his new account. Profile https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/jasonclauch-2833487
I was searching smth from my telegram chats and randomly saw that he has changed his telegram ID, but he keeped chat with me so I know its our guy Webcelerator aka fantom1962 aka Webcelerator. aka fantom1962. aka elmanchez
I have this telegram chat from 19 July when I exposed elmanchez was multiaccounting and ban evading.
JasonClauch profile is created on 24th July
archived for telegram ID reference https://archive.is/HFTJ8
I was searching smth from my telegram chats and randomly saw that he has changed his telegram ID, but he keeped chat with me so I know its our guy Webcelerator aka fantom1962 aka Webcelerator. aka fantom1962. aka elmanchez
I have this telegram chat from 19 July when I exposed elmanchez was multiaccounting and ban evading.
JasonClauch profile is created on 24th July
of course lol, free money !
pm me in telegram @JamyNRK
pm me in telegram @JamyNRK
archived for telegram ID reference https://archive.is/HFTJ8
Damn man, that was a really good catch. Can you link the post where you put that image earlier? Is it already in this thread or a similar one?
I noticed there was something just a little bit fishy about this guy and actually suspected it was Rambotnic building up a new account. First, he told an insane story about how he had a hard drive with bitcoins on it and his grandfather turned it into a keyholder. He managed to rack up a few merits there. Then he started posting betting predictions that were just awful, telling small lies about the outcome of his bet.
I Won
Krasnodar 0:3 and Spartak Moscorw 2:1
And lost Boton 2:1 and Anderleht 2:2.
I cashouted then Boston was 0:1 and Anderleht 0:0 around 0.037 ETH
Krasnodar 0:3 and Spartak Moscorw 2:1
And lost Boton 2:1 and Anderleht 2:2.
I cashouted then Boston was 0:1 and Anderleht 0:0 around 0.037 ETH
No, you lost. You bet Spartak Moscow to win and they tied. You picked a 4 game parlay and you lost 3 of 4 games. If people would have bet how you bet, they would have lost.
Even cashing out before your first official loss at 0.037 ETH results in a net loss of 0.013 ETH.
Hi
Oh, lol, i saw that Spartak played 2:2
Here is screen of my cashout https://i.ibb.co/qg8zwqF/image.png
He's been kind of silent for a while, maybe he knew it wasn't gonna work out and moved on.
I reported private message which he sent to me and added this thread link.
If the mod who handled the report read only the original post and didn't read all the replies, there is no way he would figure out you reported it for ban evasion.
He would think you reported it for scamming which is what this topic is about. Scams are not moderated, so he would mark it as bad and move on.
I suggest you report it again and clearly state you are reporting it for ban evasion and add links of the connected accounts, just to make things easier.
flag supported.
His last post was made 15 days ago so I suppose he doesn't care about this account anymore or how many negative feedbacks it gets.
Don't know why his account is not banned yet! Did OP report it correctly and mentioned the reason behind reporting the PM (ban evasion)?
Sorry for your loss, that's the disadvantage of gaining quick trust. From the beginning, his activity was quite suspicious, but he had managed successfully those suspensions. Once a time he had asked me for a loan, but since I am not a lender so I denied him that time. However, he had made an avatar for me when he was a newbie. And have made a few contributions by creating the free design. Eventually, he successfully gained trust from lenders including TMAN.
Sorry once again for your losses, the amount was quite big. Supported flags and tagged as well.
Sorry once again for your losses, the amount was quite big. Supported flags and tagged as well.
I created a type 3 flag for elmanchez:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2163
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=2163
Coincidence? I dont think so..
Same modus operandi as before, he wants to build a reputation by sending first to trusted members, and of course he hopes that they will leave him positive feedback which he will use to scam other users. Of course the user made his first post in the Russian board...
Hello i want exhcange 49 ETH.
Ready sent first partial 10 each transaction with any trusted users.
Other users be ready deal first or hire escrow.
Leave message here.
Ready sent first partial 10 each transaction with any trusted users.
Other users be ready deal first or hire escrow.
Leave message here.
Anyways, I agree a permanent ban is valid due to ban envision in this case, but I would not go as far as calling him a criminal though.
I find it strange that you have any empathy for people like him given that his only goal was and still is to deceive as many people as possible in order to gain financial gain. I don’t know how we should call such people, should it even matter if we say he’s an ordinary online criminal or just a thief?
Sad to see it turned out this way for @elmanchez. Some of his explanations about such previous exchange scam accusations on him were pitiful at most. But looking at how the above PM confirms, it seems he was probably motived to pull out money any way possible. I am still hoping for his explanation if there is any.
There is nothing sad in the fact that one scammer was discovered along with what appears to be a whole bunch of alt accounts with which a lot of bad has been done to forum users. What is sad that he still did not get perma ban, given all the evidence presented.
This is something which should go into the category of plagiarism, without mercy and too much thinking - the man literally made a criminal online organization.
I was sad about how hard it is to track a single person doing multiple scam attempts, and how un-noticed one can go here, leading to such unexpected damage as done to the OP.
Anyways, I agree a permanent ban is valid due to ban envision in this case, but I would not go as far as calling him a criminal though.
Sad to see it turned out this way for @elmanchez. Some of his explanations about such previous exchange scam accusations on him were pitiful at most. But looking at how the above PM confirms, it seems he was probably motived to pull out money any way possible. I am still hoping for his explanation if there is any.
There is nothing sad in the fact that one scammer was discovered along with what appears to be a whole bunch of alt accounts with which a lot of bad has been done to forum users. What is sad that he still did not get perma ban, given all the evidence presented.
This is something which should go into the category of plagiarism, without mercy and too much thinking - the man literally made a criminal online organization.
Sad to see it turned out this way for @elmanchez. Some of his explanations about such previous exchange scam accusations on him were pitiful at most. But looking at how the above PM confirms, it seems he was probably motived to pull out money any way possible. I am still hoping for his explanation if there is any.
Only I was alarmed right away that he asked me in PM to borrow $ 60 in Bitcoin, but for some reason he wanted to explain the details in telegram, and not in PM.
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Taking a loan from Ratimov for 15 days to solve "Scam accusation" .... ammout 60usd worth bitcoin.
Funding adress : 3KqYoA1LW8WPmWK3fs7xfhqkd4cLv96vJF
Funding adress : 3KqYoA1LW8WPmWK3fs7xfhqkd4cLv96vJF
So if I'm getting this right, he was scamming, denying the scams, then trying to borrow money (AKA scam again) under the pretense that he was trying to compensate the scam victim. That's quite clever.
I also got a PM from elmanchez some time ago regarding the sale of BTC for PayPal, and we have not traded before, nor have in any way asked publicly or privately that I want something like that. Only bob123 as DT member then reacted and red tag elmanchez, and this was almost a month ago.
I wonder why other DTs avoided at least leaving a neutral tag if they felt there wasn’t enough evidence - and why elmanchez still has more positive and neutral feedbacks than negative ones after all the evidence presented?
No idea what others are doing, but after LoyecV confirmation I am giving negative tag to this guy.I wonder why other DTs avoided at least leaving a neutral tag if they felt there wasn’t enough evidence - and why elmanchez still has more positive and neutral feedbacks than negative ones after all the evidence presented?
He is also a liar doing ban evasion, and should be banned.
fantom1962. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fantom1962-899777 BANNED
Webcelerator https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/webcelerator-388221 BANNED
fantom1962 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fantom1962-142300 Inactive
Webcelerator. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/webcelerator-893299 BANNED
elmanchez https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elmanchez-2553198 ?
Webcelerator https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/webcelerator-388221 BANNED
fantom1962 https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/fantom1962-142300 Inactive
Webcelerator. https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/webcelerator-893299 BANNED
elmanchez https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elmanchez-2553198 ?
Interesting findings.
This guy elmanchez sent me PM some time ago and he offered to make me some ANN topic design for free, even if I never asked him to do this.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elmanchez-2553198
He never made anything and never talked with me after that.
This guy elmanchez sent me PM some time ago and he offered to make me some ANN topic design for free, even if I never asked him to do this.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elmanchez-2553198
He never made anything and never talked with me after that.
I also got a PM from elmanchez some time ago regarding the sale of BTC for PayPal, and we have not traded before, nor have in any way asked publicly or privately that I want something like that. Only bob123 as DT member then reacted and red tag elmanchez, and this was almost a month ago.
I wonder why other DTs avoided at least leaving a neutral tag if they felt there wasn’t enough evidence - and why elmanchez still has more positive and neutral feedbacks than negative ones after all the evidence presented?
Obviously, elmanchez's plan was to gain the trust of the community before pulling his exit scam. It's clear from the above replies, highly trusted members and DTs still find it hard to believe he is a scammer!
Technically, he didn't scam anyone in this particular case, though.
I knew from the beginning there was something wrong with this user and he shouldn't be trusted here.
@DireWolfM14, I hope you will, somehow, get your money back.
Technically, he didn't scam anyone in this particular case, though.
I knew from the beginning there was something wrong with this user and he shouldn't be trusted here.
@DireWolfM14, I hope you will, somehow, get your money back.
Did elmanchez try to buy some hero accounts, which turned out banned, essentially falling for yet another scam?
While plausible, it doesn't change the fact that he tried to pass a banned account as trustworthy, going as far as using a screenshot to confirm receipt of a PM (because obviously he wasn't able to reply to the PM). That's a proper scam attempt.
Sorry for your loss but I doubt he intends to pay those loans back.
This is turn for the worst, I must say...
Now I'd like to know is it elmanchez who was behind the creation of these accounts? Since some of them date back to 2013, I'm finding that hard to believe.
Did elmanchez try to buy some hero accounts, which turned out banned, essentially falling for yet another scam?
Or, did elmanchez sell his account to this account farmer, who's trying to use it to... What is he trying to do?
Regardless, I'm concerned since elmanchez owes me 0.043BTC and 0.3ETH.
Now I'd like to know is it elmanchez who was behind the creation of these accounts? Since some of them date back to 2013, I'm finding that hard to believe.
Did elmanchez try to buy some hero accounts, which turned out banned, essentially falling for yet another scam?
Or, did elmanchez sell his account to this account farmer, who's trying to use it to... What is he trying to do?
Regardless, I'm concerned since elmanchez owes me 0.043BTC and 0.3ETH.
With all these newb accounts apparently trying to bring elmanchez down over the last month or two, I have to say, I did not see this coming.
This connects elmanchez to potentially over a hundred other accounts, some going back to 2013, and of course, proves that he is ban evading.
So bizarre that he would drag in all these other accounts when all he had to do was mention the elmanchez one. Still, something doesn't feel quite right about the situation, but it is what it is.
This connects elmanchez to potentially over a hundred other accounts, some going back to 2013, and of course, proves that he is ban evading.
So bizarre that he would drag in all these other accounts when all he had to do was mention the elmanchez one. Still, something doesn't feel quite right about the situation, but it is what it is.
Maybe someone asked elmanchez to send that PM
Maybe he bought those accounts - if that's a good excuse for plagiarism then he's totally not ban evading either.
Or maybe it's time to use Occam's razor on this one.
With all these newb accounts apparently trying to bring elmanchez down over the last month or two, I have to say, I did not see this coming.
This connects elmanchez to potentially over a hundred other accounts, some going back to 2013, and of course, proves that he is ban evading.
So bizarre that he would drag in all these other accounts when all he had to do was mention the elmanchez one. Still, something doesn't feel quite right about the situation, but it is what it is.
This connects elmanchez to potentially over a hundred other accounts, some going back to 2013, and of course, proves that he is ban evading.
So bizarre that he would drag in all these other accounts when all he had to do was mention the elmanchez one. Still, something doesn't feel quite right about the situation, but it is what it is.
Archived (in case imgur.com gets edited).
Archived (in case imgur.com gets edited).
@vareole: you should change your password and captcha code again
Interesting findings.
This guy elmanchez sent me PM some time ago and he offered to make me some ANN topic design for free, even if I never asked him to do this.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elmanchez-2553198
He never made anything and never talked with me after that.
This guy elmanchez sent me PM some time ago and he offered to make me some ANN topic design for free, even if I never asked him to do this.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elmanchez-2553198
He never made anything and never talked with me after that.
Should I send captcha free URL + password to you in private message?
Yes. But before messing around with your account: Stake your Bitcoin address here. If you want to ever use your current password again: change it before sending it to me.The captcha free link makes it easier for me to use Tor (so I don't end up in your IP logs). After I'm done verifying, you should change your password and Reset your captcha bypass code.
So to be clear, I only have to verify this PM?
I can let you or anyone else with high rep to check this private message in my account and confirm its legit and not fake.
@LoyceV has a practical way of doing this, he might volunteer if he has the time.I'll read the details tomorrow too
@LoyceV has a practical way of doing this, he might volunteer if he has the time.
I think suchmoon can help too I remember him saying he did it before.Anyway, it doesn't matter anymore since OP reported the message. We will know he is telling the truth when elmanchez's account get banned.
I tend to believe him, though. There is no reason why he would be lying about this.
I can let you or anyone else with high rep to check this private message in my account and confirm its legit and not fake.
@LoyceV has a practical way of doing this, he might volunteer if he has the time.
I did it now.
Good, maybe @hilariousandco will have access to it, and let us know one way or the other.
If the contents of this screenshot are true, then you should report the PM to admin. Of course screenshots could easily be faked, so this might be an attempt to discredit elmanchez, which may or may not be happening. In my opinion the verdict is still out on that.
But again, if this personal message is real, he's essentially admitting to ban evasion. Have you reported it to admin?
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I just checked his profile and his "Current Status" shows as online:
So no doubt here he is the same person who contacted you on Telegram. Maybe he is reading this thread right now!
Obviously, he has many alts/friends and he will try to convince you to use one of them as escrow.
Do not make any deal with him
So no doubt here he is the same person who contacted you on Telegram. Maybe he is reading this thread right now!
Obviously, he has many alts/friends and he will try to convince you to use one of them as escrow.
Do not make any deal with him
This user seems to be accused for scam attempts and seems like you are also another target of them. Lucky that you got rid of them. Check the referenced thread of elmanchez tag and you will get idea about his scam method.
I think you didn't get the point, YOSHIE.
You interpret my words too quickly, you misinterpret them.I said to OP.
The rice has become porridge, @Webcelerator, it's not on the escrow list in this Bitcointalk forum and even worse, @Webcelerator has been banned in this forum.
From the meaning of what I said, anyone who offers "escrow" service if it is not listed in the escrow service in this forum, ignore don't believe, either by telegram or in this forum, even though he shows other members./who knows, it could be, it's an Alt account.
Better, anyone who wants to use an escrow service, direct communication to the intended member, without going through other members.
That's what I meant, no, it should: @Webcelerator offers an escrow service to the OP.
@Webcelerator, it's not on the escrow list in this Bitcointalk forum
Webcelerator didn't offer escrow service. OP said to use Dreamblob escrow service but Webceletor didn't agree with that. Later Webcelerator said they will use another escrow but Webceleror never came back. I think you didn't get the point, YOSHIE.It's true that users shouldn't trust anyone so easily. There are a lot of scammers around.
You shouldn't easily trust members who offer escrow, without you investigating how reputable that member is.
The rice has become porridge, @Webcelerator, it's not on the escrow list in this Bitcointalk forum and even worse, @Webcelerator has been banned in this forum.
1. Webcelerator (Archived)
For the future you can use the escrow service provided in this forum.
Example:
Topic: Recommended bitcointalk escrow services
The rice has become porridge, @Webcelerator, it's not on the escrow list in this Bitcointalk forum and even worse, @Webcelerator has been banned in this forum.
1. Webcelerator (Archived)
For the future you can use the escrow service provided in this forum.
Example:
Topic: Recommended bitcointalk escrow services
If he is banned then he is able to log in and check my private message?
Because banned accounts are read only or watch only mode. They can read but can't post and in same way, they can read message but can't send anyone. He seems to be using that point in order to scam since he has nothing left to lose. Jump to: