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I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Everything is on the mind of the gambler, it has been demonstrated many times that there is no way for a betting progression to improve your chances of earning money and beating the casino, this should not be surprising as if the house edge could be beaten so easily then casinos will not be around anymore as everyone will have the power to bankrupt them, people are always looking for ways to give themselves better outcomes and this is natural and in many instances this works out but unfortunately this is the wrong path in gambling and yet many people still keep taking it.

And this is the sole reason on why gambling business is really a profitable business type because of this actual or normal human behavior where people do chase up on making big profits in spite on already on the profiting side.

When it comes to behavior on how they do bet then its up to someone if they would prefer on prolong time than on making a single bet outcome which this is actually basing on users preference.
Overall the duration of two methods might differ but it cant still really change up the odds.

Not all would really be that patient to wait up on making profits for thousand rolls thats why they do decide on taking a single roll once and for all.

There is evidence that gambling has been around since the dawn of civilization and I can get why people bet but once the science of probabilities began to make its way and it was demonstrated that it was impossible to beat casino games then people should have immediately switched gears and instead just gamble for fun, and yet despite the fact people know they cannot win on the long term as the odds are against them they still try to beat the casino, something that is quite astonishing for me.

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Quote from: Goodluckmate.com on April 30, 2021, 12:50:37 PM

So, if you want a quick adrenaline rush and possibly fast profit, you can just place one bet and be done with it. If you want to enjoy the gameplay and possibly win something, then go with Martingale. Wink

Fast profit or fast loss Grin

That is the risk that we should get if we use a one-time bet and there are no guarantee for us to know how big the percentage of losing or win but I guess the percentage of loss will be bigger than winning.
Many gamblers still choose martingale because they can play for longer and see the result in every round.
They hope that one or more rounds can give them winning, but that will depend on how good their luck.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 25, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Everything is on the mind of the gambler, it has been demonstrated many times that there is no way for a betting progression to improve your chances of earning money and beating the casino, this should not be surprising as if the house edge could be beaten so easily then casinos will not be around anymore as everyone will have the power to bankrupt them, people are always looking for ways to give themselves better outcomes and this is natural and in many instances this works out but unfortunately this is the wrong path in gambling and yet many people still keep taking it.

And this is the sole reason on why gambling business is really a profitable business type because of this actual or normal human behavior where people do chase up on making big profits in spite on already on the profiting side.

When it comes to behavior on how they do bet then its up to someone if they would prefer on prolong time than on making a single bet outcome which this is actually basing on users preference.
Overall the duration of two methods might differ but it cant still really change up the odds.

Not all would really be that patient to wait up on making profits for thousand rolls thats why they do decide on taking a single roll once and for all.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 25, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Everything is on the mind of the gambler, it has been demonstrated many times that there is no way for a betting progression to improve your chances of earning money and beating the casino, this should not be surprising as if the house edge could be beaten so easily then casinos will not be around anymore as everyone will have the power to bankrupt them, people are always looking for ways to give themselves better outcomes and this is natural and in many instances this works out but unfortunately this is the wrong path in gambling and yet many people still keep taking it.

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As many people explained, the main difference is in the length of play. If you place one bet and lose, that's it for you for the day or week. If you win, you're very lucky and can keep playing or do whatever you want. With Martingale, the game is more of an experience I'd say. You must follow the rules for each bet, so you must be aware of what's happening on the table. It also prolongs the gameplay, so even with an unlucky streak, you get to play for more than 5 minutes.

So, if you want a quick adrenaline rush and possibly fast profit, you can just place one bet and be done with it. If you want to enjoy the gameplay and possibly win something, then go with Martingale. Wink

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 25, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Your post is the most quoted, and people agree with you! But I think that strategies work! I can give you strategies that will work for days, you don't have to turn off your computer at all! Like mining!

But there's one little thing (problem), or two... bankroll and base bet! It's where we fall, in the desire to make more and faster we rise bets, and bankroll can't support it... the result is well known, we get busted!

I like long-run strategies! It's why Wolf is great, you can make so crazy set up with their options! You can make it like any known strategy (martingale, paroli, d'alembert), or you can be imaginative and do it in your own way! And strategy will work as long as you know what can you do with your bankroll, and not being greedy!

"One-time bet" sounds a bit strange to me... I simply can't imagine rolling just one dice, or spin slot just once... it's usually a session with many bets! Depending on the game and the odds I want to catch (I like to chance +x1000 sometimes, on some games). And the question arises, how can you make a profit when you try to catch some huge payout without occasionally bet rising after some number of rolls? Basically, you have to play martingale or some variation!

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I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Even we already know that whatever strategies applied, we will lose in the end, gamblers just want to experience the feeling of playing with their luck in the long run instead of doing a one-time bet. The chances of winning by doing multiple bets are higher compare to a one-time big-time bet.

The only thing now is, once won, get out or just play few rounds. A gambler must do everything to stop themselves in an event of winning. It's really hard to stop once we won because the feeling of being pumped is always there.

But using one time shot will not be better because we can not play in the next rounds.

1 time betting is never be a good option to choose by the gambler since this is so risky, we will lose everything in just a single bit and no chances to bounce back if we lose so I discourage gamblers to use this option. Martingale is more fun than doing that methods since on martingale we can do a good exhibition bets and from that we can really enjoy our game.

I will never use 1 time betting and risk all of my money in just one roll.
I know the percentage to lose with that will be more than 50% or I can say that I will not have a chance to win for just some money.
I prefer to use many betting times with small betting because I can gamble for some time and enjoy my free time.
Only a high-risk gambler will do that and they will not have a problem with the result and maybe they will do that at another time.

Actually I experience this before out of frustration but realize its wrong especially if you are chasing your losses, better to bet small amount since it will give you more higher chance to recover than doing this. Also maybe there are whales doing this but I think they are rarely do it maybe if they do they just want to experiment and try their luck if they can able to win by betting huge in one roll.

I guess many of us have that experience in gambling.
It is hard to recover our losses in gambling because we can get more losses if we still try playing gambling.
Maybe we need to realize that what we did before is wrong, and we do not have to chase the win as that will not work if we do not have luck.
That will be different if the whale does that because they have unlimited funds to do for anything they want.
They can easily experiment to know if that can work for them or not.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Hi,
Let it go ... your OP, I thought, but in a way it has some odds / post, what you raise but breaking bankroll management or a simple strategy to play.

You know!! when they tell you mathematically it is possible ... but their probabilities are very low, it really depends on that, if I have 99% of winning and they pay me at 2x Yes!! a single bet, but if I have 99% and they pay me 1.02 % I say no. (If it's all my bankroll)

I think you mean the classic bet it "allin" at once, and when you say "amount" which in my case is my bankroll, then the best option to bet it all is a coinflip (50/50) with a 1: 1 payout because it is the option to compare it with matingala where the bet is doubled but you must guarantee a return of at least 2x, eg some apply martingale to sports bets with odss less than 2x, they lose in the medium term, it is not only about doubling the bet, it is about the ROI.

If you understand the above, you understand what your OP proposal falls into, to use martingale you just have to make a bet (single roll)

So sometimes a stroke of luck if you do not know what you are doing will not return your initial investment.

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Quote from: Oilacris on April 27, 2021, 05:20:55 PM

Gamblers do really love to make the game longer thats why they do prefer on making use of different strategies and hope that they would able to make profits when they tend to use it up.

For one time bets then there are people who do make out such bet where they do put and roll it once or simply goes all in and if they lost then they would stop but depending
if they do still have money to spent or not.

Yeah, there are many different strategies, however the reality is that no matter what you do, in the end we are talking about losing in the long run. It doesn't matter how you gamble, house edge makes sure that you end up losing in the long run and that is why it is there. With the one-time all in bet at least you have a chance to win or lose and get out, if you lose at least you lose quickly and you know that you would have lost if you kept gambling as well, but if you win you can get out ahead and never come back.

However that means you only get to gamble once in your life and that just doesn't make any sense. Which is why I think it is obvious that there is a better strategy, which is either accepting the defeat before you start and focusing on the fun you could have (and meanwhile maybe you will get lucky) or not gambling at all, there is no system that can guarantee you profit.

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I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Even we already know that whatever strategies applied, we will lose in the end, gamblers just want to experience the feeling of playing with their luck in the long run instead of doing a one-time bet. The chances of winning by doing multiple bets are higher compare to a one-time big-time bet.

The only thing now is, once won, get out or just play few rounds. A gambler must do everything to stop themselves in an event of winning. It's really hard to stop once we won because the feeling of being pumped is always there.

But using one time shot will not be better because we can not play in the next rounds.

1 time betting is never be a good option to choose by the gambler since this is so risky, we will lose everything in just a single bit and no chances to bounce back if we lose so I discourage gamblers to use this option. Martingale is more fun than doing that methods since on martingale we can do a good exhibition bets and from that we can really enjoy our game.

I will never use 1 time betting and risk all of my money in just one roll.
I know the percentage to lose with that will be more than 50% or I can say that I will not have a chance to win for just some money.
I prefer to use many betting times with small betting because I can gamble for some time and enjoy my free time.
Only a high-risk gambler will do that and they will not have a problem with the result and maybe they will do that at another time.

Actually I experience this before out of frustration but realize its wrong especially if you are chasing your losses, better to bet small amount since it will give you more higher chance to recover than doing this. Also maybe there are whales doing this but I think they are rarely do it maybe if they do they just want to experiment and try their luck if they can able to win by betting huge in one roll.

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I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Even we already know that whatever strategies applied, we will lose in the end, gamblers just want to experience the feeling of playing with their luck in the long run instead of doing a one-time bet. The chances of winning by doing multiple bets are higher compare to a one-time big-time bet.

The only thing now is, once won, get out or just play few rounds. A gambler must do everything to stop themselves in an event of winning. It's really hard to stop once we won because the feeling of being pumped is always there.

But using one time shot will not be better because we can not play in the next rounds.

1 time betting is never be a good option to choose by the gambler since this is so risky, we will lose everything in just a single bit and no chances to bounce back if we lose so I discourage gamblers to use this option. Martingale is more fun than doing that methods since on martingale we can do a good exhibition bets and from that we can really enjoy our game.

I will never use 1 time betting and risk all of my money in just one roll.
I know the percentage to lose with that will be more than 50% or I can say that I will not have a chance to win for just some money.
I prefer to use many betting times with small betting because I can gamble for some time and enjoy my free time.
Only a high-risk gambler will do that and they will not have a problem with the result and maybe they will do that at another time.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Greed plays out most during gambling and the desire to make it big has made so many adopt the martingale system instead. For me a one-time bet is good enough since both plays out the same outcome if it's a loss both experience the same outcome. It's even worst for martingale because it's vulnerable to loosing all your funds at once.

not really gurl. martingale will make you decide to continue or not while you are in the middle. it's not like you can lose it all in just a second. the moment you realize the amount is too big already to continue there is a chance for you to change your mind and then stop.

you start with $1 and then somewhere along you experience losing 10x straight already you might think $1024 seems too big to bet already. i'd have to stop and buy an altcoin instead Cheesy

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Greed plays out most during gambling and the desire to make it big has made so many adopt the martingale system instead. For me a one-time bet is good enough since both plays out the same outcome if it's a loss both experience the same outcome. It's even worst for martingale because it's vulnerable to loosing all your funds at once.

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I prefer martingale because it is more fun to watch how many losing streaks you will reach until you win again. There is no enjoyment in doing a one-time-bet for me, and doing this has higher chance of losing than martingale strategy. If you lose, there would be no chance to recover again unless you deposit more in your bankroll. Gambling is all about pure luck so people that win in a one-time-bet are very lucky. The chance of winning from it is like winning from a lottery.

I have the same thought as you, luckily I gave up this addiction, and today I only bet on sports games.

But I guarantee you that martingale and other "techniques" that prolong the game are much more fun.
I also played a lot with bets where the probability of winning was low (less than 10%) but the reward was higher.

In the end, everything takes you to the same... an empty wallet, but what matters is the fun.

The strategies to prolong the game are fun and without them the game would be very boring, lasting only a single or few shots. I think it doesn't make sense to play an one-time-bet, as the gamblers want to spend some nice time playing, enjoying the moment. The goal of a gambling game isn't to be finished in few minutes, but to last for several hours. Strategies like martingale make it possible.
First of all gamblers play for fun, because if it was only for profit many of them would have stopped already due to the losses on long run.

Yes, with martingale or through placing of small bets the time of spending can be extended. However if the day isn't yours, even on such an extended spending what will be got at the end will be an empty wallet. So, it is not about martingale, single bet or some kind of strategy. Gambling is all about the luck, and the proper fund management. Better the fund management, lower will be the loss.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on April 28, 2021, 07:50:30 AM

I prefer martingale because it is more fun to watch how many losing streaks you will reach until you win again. There is no enjoyment in doing a one-time-bet for me, and doing this has higher chance of losing than martingale strategy. If you lose, there would be no chance to recover again unless you deposit more in your bankroll. Gambling is all about pure luck so people that win in a one-time-bet are very lucky. The chance of winning from it is like winning from a lottery.

I have the same thought as you, luckily I gave up this addiction, and today I only bet on sports games.

But I guarantee you that martingale and other "techniques" that prolong the game are much more fun.
I also played a lot with bets where the probability of winning was low (less than 10%) but the reward was higher.

In the end, everything takes you to the same... an empty wallet, but what matters is the fun.

The strategies to prolong the game are fun and without them the game would be very boring, lasting only a single or few shots. I think it doesn't make sense to play an one-time-bet, as the gamblers want to spend some nice time playing, enjoying the moment. The goal of a gambling game isn't to be finished in few minutes, but to last for several hours. Strategies like martingale make it possible.
First of all gamblers play for fun, because if it was only for profit many of them would have stopped already due to the losses on long run.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Slows down your loss, but in the long term, you will get the same result. People think martingale will give them profit slowly. What they don't realize is that the how will always win due to the house edge. They think strategies will give them better chance of winning. Little do they know that game of chances doesn't depend on strategies. It depends on pure luck. No matter what strategy you apply, you will have the same outcome if you were playing for a long term. Martingale just gives you a chance to stop when you have made some profit. A single bet will either help you take the maximum profit or make the maximum loss.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on April 28, 2021, 07:50:30 AM

I prefer martingale because it is more fun to watch how many losing streaks you will reach until you win again. There is no enjoyment in doing a one-time-bet for me, and doing this has higher chance of losing than martingale strategy. If you lose, there would be no chance to recover again unless you deposit more in your bankroll. Gambling is all about pure luck so people that win in a one-time-bet are very lucky. The chance of winning from it is like winning from a lottery.

I have the same thought as you, luckily I gave up this addiction, and today I only bet on sports games.

But I guarantee you that martingale and other "techniques" that prolong the game are much more fun.
I also played a lot with bets where the probability of winning was low (less than 10%) but the reward was higher.

In the end, everything takes you to the same... an empty wallet, but what matters is the fun.

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Quote from: xSkylarx on April 28, 2021, 07:50:30 AM

I prefer martingale because it is more fun to watch how many losing streaks you will reach until you win again. There is no enjoyment in doing a one-time-bet for me, and doing this has higher chance of losing than martingale strategy. If you lose, there would be no chance to recover again unless you deposit more in your bankroll. Gambling is all about pure luck so people that win in a one-time-bet are very lucky. The chance of winning from it is like winning from a lottery.

Yes, martingale gives us a chance to get out of the pit of the bad losing streak. However, if we're not careful, there will be a risk of repeating the behavior that has landed us in such a pit of struggle.
There are so many times that we try to forget the past, when we found ourselves in such a scenario. However, the will to win and the feeling of satisfaction is just so powerful that we don't know how to stop once it has begun. All we want to do after winning is to keep on winning.

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I prefer martingale because it is more fun to watch how many losing streaks you will reach until you win again. There is no enjoyment in doing a one-time-bet for me, and doing this has higher chance of losing than martingale strategy. If you lose, there would be no chance to recover again unless you deposit more in your bankroll. Gambling is all about pure luck so people that win in a one-time-bet are very lucky. The chance of winning from it is like winning from a lottery.

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I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Even we already know that whatever strategies applied, we will lose in the end, gamblers just want to experience the feeling of playing with their luck in the long run instead of doing a one-time bet. The chances of winning by doing multiple bets are higher compare to a one-time big-time bet.

The only thing now is, once won, get out or just play few rounds. A gambler must do everything to stop themselves in an event of winning. It's really hard to stop once we won because the feeling of being pumped is always there.

But using one time shot will not be better because we can not play in the next rounds.

1 time betting is never be a good option to choose by the gambler since this is so risky, we will lose everything in just a single bit and no chances to bounce back if we lose so I discourage gamblers to use this option. Martingale is more fun than doing that methods since on martingale we can do a good exhibition bets and from that we can really enjoy our game.

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Quote from: agustina2 on April 27, 2021, 03:12:46 PM

Quote from: Kakmakr on April 25, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Even we already know that whatever strategies applied, we will lose in the end, gamblers just want to experience the feeling of playing with their luck in the long run instead of doing a one-time bet. The chances of winning by doing multiple bets are higher compare to a one-time big-time bet.

The only thing now is, once won, get out or just play few rounds. A gambler must do everything to stop themselves in an event of winning. It's really hard to stop once we won because the feeling of being pumped is always there.

Maybe from many strategies that we knew can give us winning for some time, the rest will lose us.
There is no big chance to win in gambling, using many strategies or just playing and clicking randomly.
When they can spread their money for many rounds, they will have more chances to win, and who knows, by doing that, our luck will come to us and give the winning.
But using one time shot will not be better because we can not play in the next rounds.

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I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Even we already know that whatever strategies applied, we will lose in the end, gamblers just want to experience the feeling of playing with their luck in the long run instead of doing a one-time bet. The chances of winning by doing multiple bets are higher compare to a one-time big-time bet.

The only thing now is, once won, get out or just play few rounds. A gambler must do everything to stop themselves in an event of winning. It's really hard to stop once we won because the feeling of being pumped is always there.

You would really get pumped up when you are on the winning side which most likely on gamblers will lose after a long run because they wont really stop as long they do still have money into their pockets
which is actually common.

Gamblers do really love to make the game longer thats why they do prefer on making use of different strategies and hope that they would able to make profits when they tend to use it up.

For one time bets then there are people who do make out such bet where they do put and roll it once or simply goes all in and if they lost then they would stop but depending
if they do still have money to spent or not.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 25, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

Even we already know that whatever strategies applied, we will lose in the end, gamblers just want to experience the feeling of playing with their luck in the long run instead of doing a one-time bet. The chances of winning by doing multiple bets are higher compare to a one-time big-time bet.

The only thing now is, once won, get out or just play few rounds. A gambler must do everything to stop themselves in an event of winning. It's really hard to stop once we won because the feeling of being pumped is always there.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Human psychology.

As you said, there is absolutely zero difference between rolling 1 BTC once on 2x dice, or using some elaborate martingale system over 1000 rolls and generating a gambling volume of 1 BTC over that process.

Your EV is going to be exactly the same regardless.

Gamblers feel like they're accomplishing something by having a strategy, but at the end of the day it's all luck. Not the most rational beings around.

You are not wrong however this only takes into account the money side of things, most gamblers play because they enjoy the feeling they get when they gamble, risking everything in a single bet is not mathematically different than doing so in many small bets as your chances of losing are still the same but the entertainment value you get out of the two is completely different, and as we know gambling is supposed to be done only for entertainment purposes so betting everything on a single roll does not accomplish that goal.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on April 25, 2021, 05:33:20 AM

I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

In the long run, all martingale methods will not beat the house edge, you will win at some point but if you do not know how to quit and you always think that you can beat the house edge the house will beat you, it's really all in the mind whether you want to play using martingale or using one roll go with what will satisfy you, but if you ask me I am not into one roll, I prefer using martingale win or lose I prefer it.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Simply beacuse they also want to enjoy the game at the same time, when you are enjoying and you won in the end, you will have the feeling of fulfilmnet. That's mostly the mentality of the gamblers, sometimes we even want our bankroll to grow multiple times, 10x or more.

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Quote from: dunfida on April 23, 2021, 12:59:04 PM

House do always win as we do know if we do play even on longer runs and there's no way that we can beat it out because thats the reality on gambling.

Martingale system is just really making the game longer but doesnt mean that it would really be putting you out on an advantage but people do still keep on
using up this common strategy on where to believe that they can really beat up the house which is really a wrong mindset to have.
There are people who do like on few bet kind of gambling and doesnt care nor matter if it would really be directly be showing some win or lose.

Think it like this: If the house (the casino) wasn't going to profit in the long run, it wouldn't exist right now in the first place. The reason that the casino still do exist and you can make bets there, it is because the casino will take your money in the long run. Surely there will always be some lucky people who can get out in time right after they win their lucky bet but even if they don't return to the same casino, they will go to somewhere else and they are likely to lose their winnings there.

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I think there are some human desire to beat the house, because people are using all these strategies and none of them ever work. Some sites said that they have counters for the Martingale strategy, but I think they lie... if they use a Provably Fair system. You also get different variations on the Martingale strategy... like : "The Break-Even Martingale Strategy" or "The Inverse Martingale Strategy"

You also get "The D’Alembert Strategy" and "The Paroli Strategy" ..... but most of them will not drastically improve your chances to profit. It is all in the mind. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

It's more preferable because it allows you to manage your money and your roll compare to one single roll where you put everything because your gambling time can be over within one roll, you are here to have some fun and you will not have fun playing one roll, at least you must have strategy especially in gambling where money is involve , not one of my friend play with one roll it's not attractive, maybe to some it is.

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Quote from: magneto on April 24, 2021, 06:45:35 PM

Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Human psychology.

As you said, there is absolutely zero difference between rolling 1 BTC once on 2x dice, or using some elaborate martingale system over 1000 rolls and generating a gambling volume of 1 BTC over that process.

Your EV is going to be exactly the same regardless.

Gamblers feel like they're accomplishing something by having a strategy, but at the end of the day it's all luck. Not the most rational beings around.

You are right, the EV is the same, but these two gamblings are different. Gambling only one bet compared to 100 or 1000 small bets has a lot of more volatility. Your chances of winning are the same. But with betting 1 time you can either win or lose, while losing a 100 times in a row is very unrealistic. Betting in smaller amounts over longer periods will usually result in lower returns but also with lower risk to go broke.

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It is because they have the different belief. In spite of being somehow sophisticated, the house edge never change and people have to understand the edge controls everything. Using martingale may extend your playtime, but the outcome remains the same, unless you are lucky (the main point of gambling is to test our luck, right). I usually see people who utilize martingale system believing that they can change the results and earn stable money with gambling. But in fact, they end up like gamblers who play for fun, some even worse.

Hmmm.. I don't think that using martingale method will always produce the same result everytime. You must always check your outcome to make sure that the method works better but even if you don't utilize the martingale method that outcome with different result whether you win or lose. I've use the martingale method many times way back when I was playing dice and I've earned quite a decent amount of money. But sometimes I lose by using this method.

So you say you earned quite a decent amount of money but sometimes you lose, right? Overall, the results must be totally loss. Because if you do have profit after you subject all losing days, gambling with your martingale strategy must be a good source of passive income. But as far as I see, you do not have enough proof supporting your idea. According to my information, only poker is one of the game that give you decent income if you have adequte and deep knowledge about it

Dice, hm, is just a sort of entertainment

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Human psychology.

As you said, there is absolutely zero difference between rolling 1 BTC once on 2x dice, or using some elaborate martingale system over 1000 rolls and generating a gambling volume of 1 BTC over that process.

Your EV is going to be exactly the same regardless.

Gamblers feel like they're accomplishing something by having a strategy, but at the end of the day it's all luck. Not the most rational beings around.

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The difference between the two is the guarantee of getting the next try. You won't get the second round guaranteed on a one-time-betting system because it is heavily reliant on you winning the first round. If you don't win that round, you wouldn't have enough funding to carry on with the next. The Martingale strategy however, at the very least guarantees that you would still be able to bet even if you lost the first round, since it is imperative that you drag it out probably by using your pocket money in cases where you lose.

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Because people fail to understand the probabilities and like to think of the possibility to "hack the system" and find an ultimate winning strategy. You're absolutely right, the chances of losing while placing a single bet and with Martingale are the same.

It's pure psychology of self-consolation, that does the trick. When placing a single bet a gambler thinks "I might win, or I might lose, it's a 50/50 chance" (with respective odds, of course).

But with Martingale the gamblers are often deluded by the thinking that with each bet the chances of winning increase. They go like "I've already lost 6 times in a row, I will definitely win in the next round". While, in fact, the chances are still the same and they can keep losing.

Your logic makes sense and I believe, a lot of gamblers have that kind of perspective.
This is why some like to use martingale system because of that perception.
Anyway, in my opinion, if the game is luck-based, whether you use martingale or one-time bet, still your chance of losing is always there.
Don't think that you have high chance of winning when you practice either one of these strategies.

I'd have to disagree since technically there's a difference between the two. Yes, they both rely on a 50/50 chance, but Martingale is there to at least make/skew that 50/50 to your side, making it so that you don't lose it all at once like the 50/50 dictates. It's like it's lying to the possibilities by spreading it out evenly. Unlike a one-time bet, now that's a true-to-life 50/50 chance of you losing money. Yes, the chances are the same as always, it doesn't go up nor does it go down, but a spread out 50/50 chance vs a one time 50/50 chance have different results from each other. I guess that's what gamblers go for.

In the short run, absolutely, the outcomes may seem different. But what about the long-term perspective? Doubling bets is dangerous, it creates exponential-like growth and in a blink of an eye you reach your limits and end up betting everything you have, returning back to your 50/50 chances in order to recover from losses. One has to either place very small bets (which is kind of pointless, brings no profit) in order to be able to afford 6-7 losses in a row (which isn't that rare) or play big, which will lead to going all-in very soon.

On long run no strategies work in a game like dice, as all of them end resulting in the same thing: loss. But the point is that you need to use a strategy to survive in game until you reach the so called long run, making most profit as possible meanwhile, and to use all your money in a single bet isn't an option.
In gambling a worthless strategy is still better than no strategies. Moreover everything the gambler can do is to expect the best results from the method in use while it's still working.

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Quote from: death69 on April 24, 2021, 01:22:11 PM

It is because they have the different belief. In spite of being somehow sophisticated, the house edge never change and people have to understand the edge controls everything. Using martingale may extend your playtime, but the outcome remains the same, unless you are lucky (the main point of gambling is to test our luck, right). I usually see people who utilize martingale system believing that they can change the results and earn stable money with gambling. But in fact, they end up like gamblers who play for fun, some even worse.

Hmmm.. I don't think that using martingale method will always produce the same result everytime. You must always check your outcome to make sure that the method works better but even if you don't utilize the martingale method that outcome with different result whether you win or lose. I've use the martingale method many times way back when I was playing dice and I've earned quite a decent amount of money. But sometimes I lose by using this method.

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Because people fail to understand the probabilities and like to think of the possibility to "hack the system" and find an ultimate winning strategy. You're absolutely right, the chances of losing while placing a single bet and with Martingale are the same.

It's pure psychology of self-consolation, that does the trick. When placing a single bet a gambler thinks "I might win, or I might lose, it's a 50/50 chance" (with respective odds, of course).

But with Martingale the gamblers are often deluded by the thinking that with each bet the chances of winning increase. They go like "I've already lost 6 times in a row, I will definitely win in the next round". While, in fact, the chances are still the same and they can keep losing.

Your logic makes sense and I believe, a lot of gamblers have that kind of perspective.
This is why some like to use martingale system because of that perception.
Anyway, in my opinion, if the game is luck-based, whether you use martingale or one-time bet, still your chance of losing is always there.
Don't think that you have high chance of winning when you practice either one of these strategies.

I'd have to disagree since technically there's a difference between the two. Yes, they both rely on a 50/50 chance, but Martingale is there to at least make/skew that 50/50 to your side, making it so that you don't lose it all at once like the 50/50 dictates. It's like it's lying to the possibilities by spreading it out evenly. Unlike a one-time bet, now that's a true-to-life 50/50 chance of you losing money. Yes, the chances are the same as always, it doesn't go up nor does it go down, but a spread out 50/50 chance vs a one time 50/50 chance have different results from each other. I guess that's what gamblers go for.

In the short run, absolutely, the outcomes may seem different. But what about the long-term perspective? Doubling bets is dangerous, it creates exponential-like growth and in a blink of an eye you reach your limits and end up betting everything you have, returning back to your 50/50 chances in order to recover from losses. One has to either place very small bets (which is kind of pointless, brings no profit) in order to be able to afford 6-7 losses in a row (which isn't that rare) or play big, which will lead to going all-in very soon.

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It is because they have the different belief. In spite of being somehow sophisticated, the house edge never change and people have to understand the edge controls everything. Using martingale may extend your playtime, but the outcome remains the same, unless you are lucky (the main point of gambling is to test our luck, right). I usually see people who utilize martingale system believing that they can change the results and earn stable money with gambling. But in fact, they end up like gamblers who play for fun, some even worse.

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Quote from: Kittygalore on April 21, 2021, 09:47:39 PM

With Martingale, you can gamble more times co.pared to one time bet which is in the name itself. The problem with Martingale though is that you should have a lot of money for show to survive losses because each loss is going to increase your bet which aims to recover the past loss as quick as possible but it can also deplete your money real fast.

Martingale actually just increases your chance to win on just a short-term basis but you could probably get more losses as you try to gain more winnings or recover from what you have lost. If you're planning to use it as a long-term strategy, you might have regrets in the end. That's actually the reason why I've just tried it once because that's how I see it based on what I have experienced.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

It is not really difficult to know why people prefer martingale over betting every single dollar they have in a single roll of a dice, most of the time those that are gambling like the activity, so if they bet everything in a single roll of a dice and they lose then they have no way to keep gambling, but if they use martingale then they can keep gambling for a longer amount of time, even if the end result is the same how you get there is completely different and those differences matter to most gamblers.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

If you are playing more longer then there are chances for you to get more lucky as well because the probability will favours you depends on the bet amount but martingale really sucks so don't follow that strategy because it won't take to much time to rekt your balance if you are not lucky on that day.

What @jrrsparkles said is right. But unfortunately, gamblers do not think about that because if they play for longer, they know that the chance to win will be there. So they will try to play longer than others, and some gamblers prove that method works for them, but not for the other gamblers who do not have much luck in the gambling games. If you want to use martingale, you need to manage your money and know when you must stop gambling before it is too late to realize.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I'm not confident when playing dice I don't think I can put everything in one roll, I haven't tried I want to win and make money however small it is, so I am employing the best strategy on Dice and the martingale variations is a good one to use sometimes but not all the times, I have fun using martingale win or lose, and I don't think I can have fun trying to risk everything in one roll.

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your first attempt may go in your favor and the second one may go against you and third one may go again against you but your fourth attempt may end up in favor of you. In this is gambling situation, if you go with martingale then you will be in profits; if you go with all-in then in your second attempt itself you will get busted.

That explains everything. You need to be careful in gambling against losses which is simply possible if we go through martingale. Why we are switching back to base-bet after a winning bet in Martingale strategy, because we need to save our bankroll even for 10 or 20 attempts to recover one losing bet. When you go with single stroking then you may win or lose and that will end your gambling in matter of seconds. If you look for maximizing the chances to win then never bet with all your bankroll.

There are other strategies are also available to ensure long run but I never across any theory to support single stroke gambling of all bankroll. Even in trading, no one suggest to risk all our capital at a time; reserve something to make use at times.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

If you are playing more longer then there are chances for you to get more lucky as well because the probability will favours you depends on the bet amount but martingale really sucks so don't follow that strategy because it won't take to much time to rekt your balance if you are not lucky on that day.

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I hate single rolls, it breaks my heart knowing there's no second chance.

Only gamblers with a high appetite for risk will always do that, even you know the fact that you will eventually lose the game you prefer to hang on and try to do a lot of variations so you can just stay longer play longer, it's like you want to have fun and get out from the problems in the office do you think you can do that if you lose everything you've got in just a few minutes in just one roll.

If we can play for many rounds in a gambling game, I think that can give us a chance to win, although that still difficult to win many times in gambling games.
But if you choose single rolls with an all-in of your money, you will not have a chance to play in the next rounds because your money is gone.
But even if we can play gambling games for many rounds, it does not mean we can defend our money with us because once you can feel excited about the games, you will stay for a long time and lead you to use your money to gamble more.
Having fun in gambling will not be a problem, but the real problem is when you can not control yourself and your money.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on April 24, 2021, 02:49:57 AM

I hate single rolls, it breaks my heart knowing there's no second chance.

Only gamblers with a high appetite for risk will always do that, even you know the fact that you will eventually lose the game you prefer to hang on and try to do a lot of variations so you can just stay longer play longer, it's like you want to have fun and get out from the problems in the office do you think you can do that if you lose everything you've got in just a few minutes in just one roll.

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Using a Martingale system or any other betting pattern is easier than conducting research on the games you want to bet on. That is why some gamblers prefer to place bets using a familiar system instead of checking current team forms, head-2-head results, injuries, suspensions, weather conditions, and all other stuff that can have an influence on the outcome of a match. With Martingale, all you have to do is bet on the same team or same odds, making sure to double your bet in case you lose until you win or lose it all.

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IMO, there's a combined emotion of not accepting to lose.
With martingale, you win one and you have profits then back to start. The only liability here is the capital.
If you keeps on losing more and unable to fund the next target then it won't be the same strategy anymore. You will just bet everything that you had which is bad gambling for me.
Create a large amount of capital first and stay with the plan. There are occasions when gamblers tries another strategy and didn't stick out with the plan that will end up just losing more.
I hate single rolls, it breaks my heart knowing there's no second chance.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Do you always gamble in hurry? What is the need of testing our luck in single stroke?
I agree that winning and losing chances are same; but not on every attempt.

Let's consider a typical gambling scenario:
your first attempt may go in your favor and the second one may go against you and third one may go again against you but your fourth attempt may end up in favor of you. In this is gambling situation, if you go with martingale then you will be in profits; if you go with all-in then in your second attempt itself you will get busted.

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I also wonder at the Martingale simulator, technically why does Losing streak increase with the number of bets as a direct correlation?

Why don't you send some sats to freebitco.in and set up an autobet strategy? You will lose more often than your wins because of the house edge. The process might take lots of minutes before your bankroll gets depleted but it will happen anyway. Go on try it and share the results with us.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

In martingale we could earn back our money and stop when we gain enough profit,
In one time bet or single roll all or nothing after the roll if we lose we couldn't do anything.
And some of us gamble to have fun and enjoy our free time so we choose to do the martingale instead of an all in single bet.

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Because people fail to understand the probabilities and like to think of the possibility to "hack the system" and find an ultimate winning strategy. You're absolutely right, the chances of losing while placing a single bet and with Martingale are the same.

It's pure psychology of self-consolation, that does the trick. When placing a single bet a gambler thinks "I might win, or I might lose, it's a 50/50 chance" (with respective odds, of course).

But with Martingale the gamblers are often deluded by the thinking that with each bet the chances of winning increase. They go like "I've already lost 6 times in a row, I will definitely win in the next round". While, in fact, the chances are still the same and they can keep losing.

Your logic makes sense and I believe, a lot of gamblers have that kind of perspective.
This is why some like to use martingale system because of that perception.
Anyway, in my opinion, if the game is luck-based, whether you use martingale or one-time bet, still your chance of losing is always there.
Don't think that you have high chance of winning when you practice either one of these strategies.

I'd have to disagree since technically there's a difference between the two. Yes, they both rely on a 50/50 chance, but Martingale is there to at least make/skew that 50/50 to your side, making it so that you don't lose it all at once like the 50/50 dictates. It's like it's lying to the possibilities by spreading it out evenly. Unlike a one-time bet, now that's a true-to-life 50/50 chance of you losing money. Yes, the chances are the same as always, it doesn't go up nor does it go down, but a spread out 50/50 chance vs a one time 50/50 chance have different results from each other. I guess that's what gamblers go for.

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People still choose to use the Martingale system because they believe that they can recoup their losses faster in that way. Also, not everyone has the actual patience to sit there and click multiple times to roll, hence why they use Martingale system even though it has been proven time and time again to lose you money than the opposite.

I have used the Martingale system on several occasions and it just shortened my time on the platform. I was there to have a good time, win or lose, and I felt that I just lost more money than I actually do because I never enjoyed playing using that strategy.

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Quote from: just_Alice on April 23, 2021, 05:32:42 PM

Because people fail to understand the probabilities and like to think of the possibility to "hack the system" and find an ultimate winning strategy. You're absolutely right, the chances of losing while placing a single bet and with Martingale are the same.

It's pure psychology of self-consolation, that does the trick. When placing a single bet a gambler thinks "I might win, or I might lose, it's a 50/50 chance" (with respective odds, of course).

But with Martingale the gamblers are often deluded by the thinking that with each bet the chances of winning increase. They go like "I've already lost 6 times in a row, I will definitely win in the next round". While, in fact, the chances are still the same and they can keep losing.

Your logic makes sense and I believe, a lot of gamblers have that kind of perspective.
This is why some like to use martingale system because of that perception.
Anyway, in my opinion, if the game is luck-based, whether you use martingale or one-time bet, still your chance of losing is always there.
Don't think that you have high chance of winning when you practice either one of these strategies.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I enjoy playing martingale I started this one and I liked it the first time I played it, it's not really if I am going to be lucky or I will win a lot if I win big time I'm keeping it, so I can play whenever I like playing, I have once tried one time roll and I'm not solved to it, what's the point of losing and winning in one roll, when you can have more fun doing more roll on the martingale, it's the fun I'm really looking for.

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Because people fail to understand the probabilities and like to think of the possibility to "hack the system" and find an ultimate winning strategy. You're absolutely right, the chances of losing while placing a single bet and with Martingale are the same.

It's pure psychology of self-consolation, that does the trick. When placing a single bet a gambler thinks "I might win, or I might lose, it's a 50/50 chance" (with respective odds, of course).

But with Martingale the gamblers are often deluded by the thinking that with each bet the chances of winning increase. They go like "I've already lost 6 times in a row, I will definitely win in the next round". While, in fact, the chances are still the same and they can keep losing.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Well, I don’t think Martingale would work with long-term bets. It was designed to be used for short-term gains. However, placing a one-time bet is actually riskier than the Martingale approach. Also, it is still depending on how you manage your overall capital, associating both approaches would be considered and actually the best alternative. In gambling, you will never know what would happen. So I guess, the best way to execute winning is to associate both approaches, trust your pulse and manage your capital well.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Martingale makes you play more. The casino makes its money from the house edge. The more you play, the more you pay for the house edge.

If you play a 50% chance game only 1 time, considering that the house edge is 2% or 1%, you have 48-49% chance to win the round and you may get away with it.

If you play the same game 1000 times, then the house edge will certainly kick in in the long run and that means 52% of the time you will lose. Approximately you will lose 520 of your games out of a 1000 and only win 480 of the games and that's bankruptcy for you.

House do always win as we do know if we do play even on longer runs and there's no way that we can beat it out because thats the reality on gambling.

Martingale system is just really making the game longer but doesnt mean that it would really be putting you out on an advantage but people do still keep on
using up this common strategy on where to believe that they can really beat up the house which is really a wrong mindset to have.
There are people who do like on few bet kind of gambling and doesnt care nor matter if it would really be directly be showing some win or lose.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Martingale makes you play more. The casino makes its money from the house edge. The more you play, the more you pay for the house edge.

If you play a 50% chance game only 1 time, considering that the house edge is 2% or 1%, you have 48-49% chance to win the round and you may get away with it.

If you play the same game 1000 times, then the house edge will certainly kick in in the long run and that means 52% of the time you will lose. Approximately you will lose 520 of your games out of a 1000 and only win 480 of the games and that's bankruptcy for you.

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Just think of placing all in one bet, if it gives you a win then it is enjoyable. Same time if the roll fails, everything is lost and one can't test his luck anymore. He needs to look for additional funds.

When tried with small amounts followed by martingale strategy the same fund gets used for a longer time period and in between if lucky, the user experiences a massive win. However everything is upon the users self plans and luck.

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It depends on the person who will bet. Some want to prolong their gambling time to have fun even if they win or lose the bet as long as they have the excitement and fun they want compared to one time bet. In one time bet, some doesn't want to bet many times if they know that they will lose or win the bet.

Yes, maybe they will have their reason why they do that. There are many scenarios for the gamblers to use that strategy because if they want to have fun, they will not use a one-time bet instead of using a small amount to prolong their time playing gambling. Maybe we can say that it is wrong to say about the one-time bet to other people and we suggest them to use little money to gamble, but that will depend on them.

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Quote from: aioc on April 23, 2021, 08:01:43 AM

Both strategies will not give you profit, I tried both I still end up losing money, it's on the preference of the player, sometimes I feel like putting everything in one roll to see if it's my lucky day and sometimes I'm using the variation of the martingale if I'm lucky I made a profit in any one of them, it's important that you only gamble what you can afford to lose.

Without any doubts martingale strategy has more chances of working for a longer time than the only single bet strategy. It's unusual to see a gambler hitting a long loss streak with martingale on his first bets, but if you are going to use your whole balance to make one single bet there is a high chance you are going to lose it all on the first match.
Both strategies won't work on long run, but martingale will make your game last longer.

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Both strategies will not give you profit, I tried both I still end up losing money, it's on the preference of the player, sometimes I feel like putting everything in one roll to see if it's my lucky day and sometimes I'm using the variation of the martingale if I'm lucky I made a profit in any one of them, it's important that you only gamble what you can afford to lose.

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One-time bet is the worse choice of betting compared to the martingale system. With a one-time bet, you only have a single chance. It is do or die, make or break. After only a single loss, you are done. With the martingale system, you still have a way to make a come-back. It does not mean that your betting will end with only a single loss. In fact, with a martingale system you only need to win once and you will not only recover your losses, you will also make a profit. But this needs a lot of money.

All in all, both strategies are not advisable.

obviously, there is no chance of getting back the loss if you lose the first bet you did. but with martingale, you might just find your luck after the 3rd to 4th time. somehow after years of trying martingale, I'm still experiencing losing streaks and eventually lose all.

Martingale works sometimes. It depends on the streak. If you are only losing for 3-4 consecutive times, Martingale might help you recover your loss and even give you a profit. But at times a losing streak is long enough that a Martingale strategy cannot anymore support.

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generally, gambling isn't advisable. you only do it for fun, not for making money. call it a day whenever you get to win $100. the next day you lose $100 using martingale, still call it a day.

The best strategy in gambling is to limit your money and your time. Self-discipline is what every gambler needs to develop. Knowing when to stop will keep your losses tolerable.

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It depends on the person who will bet. Some want to prolong their gambling time to have fun even if they win or lose the bet as long as they have the excitement and fun they want compared to one time bet. In one time bet, some doesn't want to bet many times if they know that they will lose or win the bet.

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Martingale strat also has a glitch when rage bets happens. Many times I did that martingale and one time bet. Pure luck is all we wanted when doing any strategy.

Doing martingale in different multiplier is somehow effective but remember that all strategies when used for so long will be monitored by the house and will not gonna be effective. Same goes with that big bets but one time only. It is a do or die strategy but you should also think of what multiplier you will gonna use.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Well if you go to the Google you would find something like this :

(Image taken from google)

But in reality the system is very different and cannot be used. I do think it would only work if you had unlimited money in the bank account and a lot of betting chances. Well honestly players usually see a table like this online and think that the system would work even for a single bet but rather the players usually have :

1. Limited games
2. Limited money

Therefore this cannot work for a single bet !! More or so there is always a gap in theory vs practical applications. Therefore I do think if a player is only going to make a single bet he/she rather use the probability and see how it goes.

More than $1000 loss when experiencing 10x losing streak and you only started with $1.

I actually play around with martingale with dice like 40 roll under and then if I lose 3 times, I will shift to roll over, still 40, and still double the amount loss. It probably disrupts the pre-program of the casino and sometimes I break the losing streak. Somehow though if I don't quit playing for the day, I end up losing more than half of my capital. Casino still wins.

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If I understand the Martingale system and it's rapid re-rolling of the numbers, it's simply a means to an end to play more turns more quickly with higher returns. I've given it a go a couple of times, but I'm not quite sure I've got the knack of it, or getting the settings down pat properly (all that happens is my funds evaporate) Roll Eyes

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Why would gamblers prefer to gamble everything in one roll? there's no fun in this when in the first place we are going to a gambling site or casinos to spend time and have fun, we all know that we are going to eventually lose in the long run but why taking a chance to lose it in one roll and spend just a couple of minutes, it's more heartbreaking to lose everything in one roll than losing it after 50 or more rolls.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Everyone has their way of doing things and the bank roll is the main thing you need to look for if you are playing the martingale system and i used to use the bot to play the system but not anymore and i do roll one time bet once in a while simply because my mind set and preference changed with time and now a days i rarely play the martingale system.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

To call these methods a "system" is trying to induce and imply some sort of skillful element being involved. Both of these setups purely rely on chance and the "chance" a long term gambler will receive is a pre-determined number within the casino. That number is built to steadily drain the funds of each player, turning over a "rake" or "commission" in return for a form of entertainment. Even when you do win, there are many psychological tricks, greed and self deceit that most players cannot walk away from a "one-time-bet". It is an perpetual illusion that the majority of people will have enough self control to stop, because people with self control do not fritter away money on this type of bet and know that martingale is fake. You also have to understand that casinos can "play fair" while also putting automatic protections in place to slow down play or make sure they do not payout major amounts (like forcing a string of losses after a few random generated wins).

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Well if you go to the Google you would find something like this :

(Image taken from google)

But in reality the system is very different and cannot be used. I do think it would only work if you had unlimited money in the bank account and a lot of betting chances. Well honestly players usually see a table like this online and think that the system would work even for a single bet but rather the players usually have :

1. Limited games
2. Limited money

Therefore this cannot work for a single bet !! More or so there is always a gap in theory vs practical applications. Therefore I do think if a player is only going to make a single bet he/she rather use the probability and see how it goes.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 22, 2021, 05:49:09 AM

The mathematical model of Martingale suggests that with a bankroll tending towards infinity, the player will be in the black. In reality, this strategy does not give the player any advantage over the casino and many are convinced of this from personal experience.

If you do have such bankroll where you can continue to double your money from each loses that you encounter then maybe this one will work, but based from many experienced coming from those gamblers there's none that exist.

No one have unlimited bankroll along the way you'll lose and you'll regret using this system. Better to play to find entertainment even you lose you gain enjoyment.

Martingale or Yolo both mostly leads you to lose your bankroll. Roll Eyes

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Quote from: plr on April 22, 2021, 07:41:02 AM

Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I don't want to lose everything in one roll I would like to prolong and enjoy the game and variations of the martingale will make me play longer, I have experienced playing using a martingale and I sometimes my game last minutes to a few hours, this is what we all want, to play and enjoy the game for a longer period of time.

That feeling will be a pain in our head to see all of the money lost in just one roll without recovering the losses because the money is gone already. But if you can have control over yourself, you will use one time bet to play gambling to play for more rounds. Even if you lose in the current round, you will have a chance to win in the next roll, although that is not advisable to continue playing gambling after losing for some rolls. Maybe a gambler wants to test their luck in the one time bet so they do that occasionally.

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Quote from: plr on April 22, 2021, 07:41:02 AM

Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I don't want to lose everything in one roll I would like to prolong and enjoy the game and variations of the martingale will make me play longer, I have experienced playing using a martingale and I sometimes my game last minutes to a few hours, this is what we all want, to play and enjoy the game for a longer period of time.

dont say loose because we dont know what luck in store for us but it was rare for a gambler to depo and max out his bet for the first time except if it was an accident but we do maxout out after a set of loose ,
we come back to depo again to revenge .
using martingale dont automaticaly make your game long but it depends on the configuration . set your increase on loose in small percent but not too small because you will loose in the long run because of the edge .

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I guess that you are not fully understanding how martingale approach is working. It is a strategy which will ensure that your loss will be recovered in next attempt (or next to next attempt) and then you can get back to your original way of gambling. Single roll is the core part in martingale strategy as well.

But, when you are losing a bet then you will get chances to balance that losing bet in martingale approach. If you are winning then it will remain exact as "single roll".

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on April 22, 2021, 07:54:14 AM

One-time bet is the worse choice of betting compared to the martingale system. With a one-time bet, you only have a single chance. It is do or die, make or break. After only a single loss, you are done. With the martingale system, you still have a way to make a come-back. It does not mean that your betting will end with only a single loss. In fact, with a martingale system you only need to win once and you will not only recover your losses, you will also make a profit. But this needs a lot of money.

All in all, both strategies are not advisable.

obviously, there is no chance of getting back the loss if you lose the first bet you did. but with martingale, you might just find your luck after the 3rd to 4th time. somehow after years of trying martingale, I'm still experiencing losing streaks and eventually lose all.

generally, gambling isn't advisable. you only do it for fun, not for making money. call it a day whenever you get to win $100. the next day you lose $100 using martingale, still call it a day.

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One-time bet is the worse choice of betting compared to the martingale system. With a one-time bet, you only have a single chance. It is do or die, make or break. After only a single loss, you are done. With the martingale system, you still have a way to make a come-back. It does not mean that your betting will end with only a single loss. In fact, with a martingale system you only need to win once and you will not only recover your losses, you will also make a profit. But this needs a lot of money.

All in all, both strategies are not advisable.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

I don't want to lose everything in one roll I would like to prolong and enjoy the game and variations of the martingale will make me play longer, I have experienced playing using a martingale and I sometimes my game last minutes to a few hours, this is what we all want, to play and enjoy the game for a longer period of time.

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The mathematical model of Martingale suggests that with a bankroll tending towards infinity, the player will be in the black. In reality, this strategy does not give the player any advantage over the casino and many are convinced of this from personal experience.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Losing slowly is less stress compared to losing all your money at 1 roll. Regret is the most common gambling side effect after playing so people don't to regret on that one big decision, Besides that, People usually gamble for fun and spend some leisure time. That 1 roll strategy is not suited for most of the people who play gambling.

Losing slowly can make a gambler stay for some time in the gambling site than losing in just 1 roll. Yes, the feeling of regret will be bigger for losing in 1 roll than in many time because they will still have a chance to win in the next roll. People search for how they can have fun and enjoy their time even if they lose their money in one hour or more. Perhaps, if you are in a hurry because of an urgent situation, you can just use bet in 1 roll to bet for the last and you do not care about the result.

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why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

There is no source we can look at that martingale is prefer by most gamblers nowadays instead of a single roll so I don't know where you got that idea.

No, there is, in any casino, you can see in Bets history, that all bets are very small, of course they follow some strategy, for this there is a separate section for Big Bets, which indicates that these have made a real bet that does not follow any strategy, and we find it It always increases at a small rate every hour (whether it is from the same person or different people) in popular casinos, while the Bet History increases by more than 10 per second from different people.

How come you came up to the conclusion that martingale is preferred by most gamblers right now as their betting strategy just by looking at bets history? Do you see a long streak there with a martingale betting? And it should be done by different users and not just one.

Well then, if that's your source then so be it and I won't argue with that.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Personally I prefer to do a martingale strategy than just bet one time big. I remember the youtube video where a guy sold everything he had just to put it all on one bet at roulette. You must have balls of steel to do that. I think the majority of us prefer to follow a long term strategy so we can gamble more. If we just bet once and lose, everything is gone. The odds might be close to 50/50 but the variance is going to be huge with just one bet. Have you made a lot of profit with just rolling once?

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

The answer would most probably the preference of a gambler as such question is relatively subjective.

The martingale strategy involves betting an amount which doubles as long as you keep losing such bet. The advantage of this system is that, players with a larger capital are able to recover their losses via multiple bets. On the other hand, one-time-bets, from the name itself, involves only ONE significantly large bet which is a "do or die" system. Either you go home lucky or go home crying.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

^ I think this might have a simple answer, I am not really in the martingale approach every time but sometimes I do. And when I do, I just simply want to play it safe and try to take time to enjoy my gambling game. Especially when I had a loss on the previous day. Martingale can actually give you the sense of chances, cause when you lose, you still have a lot of tries to win back. For me, you can only use the one-time-bet strategy when you have a huge of capital. A one-time bet for a small-time gambler is not really effective as we tend to use 90% of cash when we gamble but still not enough. We do not have backups. That is why some of us prefer to use martingale instead just to enjoy the game.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Losing slowly is less stress compared to losing all your money at 1 roll. Regret is the most common gambling side effect after playing so people don't to regret on that one big decision, Besides that, People usually gamble for fun and spend some leisure time. That 1 roll strategy is not suited for most of the people who play gambling.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Only unexperienced gamblers may prefer something like martingale which is proven that does not work in the long run.Many casinos place betting limits so even if your balance is big and can handle a lot of plays they make sure that even people using martingale lose out during a long session.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

That can be considered as a personal preference, ain't it? Martingale is a strategy to make money and also to help the gambling houses make money! If you are considering casino gambling as a way to make money, you would probably want to try such tricks! Also for those people who prefer some adrenaline rush during gambling, may want to elongate their gambling using such processes instead of a single bet! But anyway, it's really a personal preference of gambling at the end of the day!

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

This phenomenon is not just for martingale, but a question why people prefer minimum bets (or more bets) than all-in? Obviously because all-in resulting in a very short playing time. If you are unlucky, you will close your browser in two seconds, lol.

At least if you lose via many bets, you will get the entertainment side of gambling, as if you spent $$$ on a horrible movie.

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Cause the martingale system guarantees that you wouldn't lose out as long as your bankroll could handle it. And most gamblers out there aren't in it to play to enjoy, but rather play to earn, hence why. Plus, with the offset of any loss, any wins you get would basically guarantee that much of a profit. So if you can hold on for as long as you can, it's basically guaranteed profit. One-time bet on the other hand is just a 50/50 chance. If we compare the two, it's like comparing one strategy where you're skewing the chance for the overall result to your side, while the other is just, well, hit or miss.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Let's not put some technical explanation about it as it was only simply a gambler's self-approach.

There is no specific reason at all why others are doing a martingale type of betting. If they are comfortable with it, then so be it.

And lastly, there is no source we can look at that martingale is prefer by most gamblers nowadays instead of a single roll so I don't know where you got that idea. There are lots of betting options that gamblers are using during their respective session.

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I guess it's because losing is inevitable in gambling and knowing that you're going to lose the money you'd might as well do it in a time consuming way like martingale rather than just going all in. Also dividing your bankroll into several bets is one of the best ways to gamble because you'll rarely make money from gambling (specifically casino games). Putting everything in a single bet is just one of the worst because if you lose you might rethink to that situation again and maybe the outcome could've been different by going with a different strategy.

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You can call that one time bet by YOLO. So your qeuestion is between martingale and Yolo, which one we prefer?
If you sure your bet is likely going win, just Yolo your bet. If you aren't sure, you can use martingale strategy and make your bet can handle xx streaks you want.

Move this thread to gambling disscussion thread.

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With Martingale, you can gamble more times co.pared to one time bet which is in the name itself. The problem with Martingale though is that you should have a lot of money for show to survive losses because each loss is going to increase your bet which aims to recover the past loss as quick as possible but it can also deplete your money real fast.

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In the martingale there is emotion and adrenaline present at all times, and if you win they give you more strength to keep trying because you think you will continue to have the same luck or even more, when it is a single shot it feels like you drink 1 or 2 Tekilas do not matter to you, but you want to live in the moment and whatever happens, you will not mind, however, I do not recommend betting on the martingale, it is better to bet more moderately.

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Quote from: smyslov on April 21, 2021, 04:36:08 PM

Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

For me, it takes out the fun and excitement in playing a dice game if you are going to pour everything in one roll, I prefer doing martingale or other similar games that will prolong the game even if I know that I might eventually lose the game, but there's excitement in every roll if I lose everything in one roll, I will not feel the enjoyment, it takes several rolls for me to enjoy gambling.

I don't feel any excitement when you do make out bets using martingale because the thing you could do is to look at those rolls neither you would get some streak or not.

When you are really intending to make out some enjoyment then nothing beats out when you do manual bets or rolls and I do agree that if someone do really targets out on seeking for leisure
or entertainment then most like they will really be using up some strategy to make the game duration longer.

For those one time bets are the ones who clearly look for profit on point.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

For me, it takes out the fun and excitement in playing a dice game if you are going to pour everything in one roll, I prefer doing martingale or other similar games that will prolong the game even if I know that I might eventually lose the game, but there's excitement in every roll if I lose everything in one roll, I will not feel the enjoyment, it takes several rolls for me to enjoy gambling.

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Quote from: vinca BK. on April 21, 2021, 12:15:18 PM

In fact, many now use the Martingale system instead of doing one stroke of luck, and the strange thing is that it is also liable to lose the same "chance" if it plays one betting with all the amount, and the question here is, why do gamblers prefer this system to a single roll?

Preference! This is actually depending on how someone will be handling out his total capital.There are some who do minds on prolonging the game and make the most of it
with using those common strategies like martingale and hoping that they could profit out in a certain period of time which is actually a wrong mindset to have because
if you arent lucky and doesnt really mind off on when to take profits then you would still lost it all.
There are some people who doesnt like to prolong the game but instead they do make out single roll or max bet on 1 chance and neither it could be a win or
loss.

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