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January 03, 2023, 12:11:46 PM
#83
Expecting all time highs every year would be unsustainable anyhow. People usually follow trends, we like patterns. We're basically pattern recognising machines, and therefore when we feel good about something, we're likely to be more optimistic, and as the saying goes "when it rains, it pours" we very much adopt a similar thinking when times aren't going so well. I imagine the next poll will be more negative, with a little optimism sprinkled in.

Judging by the polls and opinions that I have been observing since the end of last year, most people are not negative, but more positive, believing that next year will finally be a year of recovery and the markets will finally begin to gradually rise. Many people think that the bottom has already been passed and it will definitely not get worse, so this year people are set to be positive and expect recovery. Let's see if the market will follow this scenario or will again play against the expectations of the majority.
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January 02, 2023, 05:13:26 AM
#81
Well, it is possible to sum up this topic. Here are the voting results:



As always, the market worked against the expectations of the majority. In 2021, on the euphoria (that's when this topic was created, when everything was growing and Bitcoin prices were very high), people think that the growth will be eternal, which is why they voted for the continuation of the bull run. This is a fairly common psychological deception in the market when people think that if the price rises, then it will rise further, and if the price falls, it will fall further. I don’t remember the correct name for such a psychological trick, something like trend thinking or something like that. As a result, the market did not live up to the expectations of most of those who expected a miracle from 2022, and there really were a lot of such people.
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January 03, 2023, 11:11:14 AM
#80
Expecting all time highs every year would be unsustainable anyhow. People usually follow trends, we like patterns. We're basically pattern recognising machines, and therefore when we feel good about something, we're likely to be more optimistic, and as the saying goes "when it rains, it pours" we very much adopt a similar thinking when times aren't going so well. I imagine the next poll will be more negative, with a little optimism sprinkled in.
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December 01, 2021, 06:08:16 PM
#79
I'm quite happy the potential of $250k/btc was left off Wink. I think if we got an ath around $100k, we might start seeing more erratic moves again trying to drive us higher.
I can also see it having detrimental effects in the short term. I imagine it wouldn't stay at 100k for long, and would have a sharp correction. Therefore, unless Bitcoin gradually gets to that figure, it could cause panic. I would much prefer seeing Bitcoin reach new all time highs gradually, and then correct only a couple of thousand below, and then stablise at around that price for a long period, rather than taking a massive jump up.

I don't think massive jump ups are a benefit for short term adoption.

I would say that anyone who has never been part of previous cycles will not be able to predict what the future holds. I get that it is not something that many people could comprehend, and they do not know how it acted before, but this is usual for all the other ones.

I get that it is regular for us, I mean we will have great years, then we will have altseason, then we will crash, then it will be like that for a while and during that crash it will go down a bit, then a bit more than a bit more and so forth, then it will stay like that for a very long term without moving much, sure a 10-20% move but that is nothing in crypto, and then suddenly it will be another skyrocketing increase. It has always been like that and will keep on being like that again in the future.
I don't think you have to be involved in Bitcoin at the time of the last cycles to be able to read a chart, and make an educated guess on what might happen in the future. Though, that's all it ever is; a guess based on historical happenings. Therefore, isn't all that reliable.

The thing is that the nature of the markets can change in a fundamental way during that process, maybe you are right and this is something that is going to keep happening, however the circumstances are different now, institutional investors are putting their money in bitcoin as a safe haven and now even countries are investing in bitcoin, the adoption is higher and the economy is in a bad shape, so even if the price crashed I do not think it will remain there for long as the buying pressure that we are experimenting is too high for that to happen.
It's highly unlikely that Bitcoin continues to follow the same path over, and over. As you say things change, and as evidence in the past Bitcoin reacts to what's going on around it. In fact, it can be partly manipulated by news stories, at least far more than fiat currencies. So, I suspect that the driving force behind the price will be the current stance to Bitcoin, and the news surrounding it rather than repeating historical cycles.
legendary
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November 28, 2021, 02:47:57 PM
#78
I find the market to be functional on a cyclic process. Once after the previous bull market there is much expectations on the price to increase continuously. Once there is no big movement with bitcoin, everyone's eye turned towards altcoins. Further discussion started as it is the year of altcoins, particularly ethereum. That created some expectation for some time period. After a long this year we've experienced the real bull trend.

Over the past few years we've been part of the volatile market that is good for the traders. This year has brought in the profit for all the long term holders. Almost similar pattern as the previous bull market have happened, only the price difference is big this time. So, I expect some form of bearish move by the falling year.
I would say that anyone who has never been part of previous cycles will not be able to predict what the future holds. I get that it is not something that many people could comprehend, and they do not know how it acted before, but this is usual for all the other ones.

I get that it is regular for us, I mean we will have great years, then we will have altseason, then we will crash, then it will be like that for a while and during that crash it will go down a bit, then a bit more than a bit more and so forth, then it will stay like that for a very long term without moving much, sure a 10-20% move but that is nothing in crypto, and then suddenly it will be another skyrocketing increase. It has always been like that and will keep on being like that again in the future.
The thing is that the nature of the markets can change in a fundamental way during that process, maybe you are right and this is something that is going to keep happening, however the circumstances are different now, institutional investors are putting their money in bitcoin as a safe haven and now even countries are investing in bitcoin, the adoption is higher and the economy is in a bad shape, so even if the price crashed I do not think it will remain there for long as the buying pressure that we are experimenting is too high for that to happen.
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November 26, 2021, 12:46:02 PM
#77
I find the market to be functional on a cyclic process. Once after the previous bull market there is much expectations on the price to increase continuously. Once there is no big movement with bitcoin, everyone's eye turned towards altcoins. Further discussion started as it is the year of altcoins, particularly ethereum. That created some expectation for some time period. After a long this year we've experienced the real bull trend.

Over the past few years we've been part of the volatile market that is good for the traders. This year has brought in the profit for all the long term holders. Almost similar pattern as the previous bull market have happened, only the price difference is big this time. So, I expect some form of bearish move by the falling year.
I would say that anyone who has never been part of previous cycles will not be able to predict what the future holds. I get that it is not something that many people could comprehend, and they do not know how it acted before, but this is usual for all the other ones.

I get that it is regular for us, I mean we will have great years, then we will have altseason, then we will crash, then it will be like that for a while and during that crash it will go down a bit, then a bit more than a bit more and so forth, then it will stay like that for a very long term without moving much, sure a 10-20% move but that is nothing in crypto, and then suddenly it will be another skyrocketing increase. It has always been like that and will keep on being like that again in the future.
legendary
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November 26, 2021, 09:42:21 AM
#76
everybody who involved on crypto communities including me will expect bullish will continue until next year even during on 2022 people wants to see the price will climbing up until reach to new millestone but besides that i fear 4 year cycle such as 2018 past will happened on that year while after reach to new peak the price gradually down to the deep and people being panic sold their bitcoin majority
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November 25, 2021, 05:10:38 PM
#75
I find the market to be functional on a cyclic process. Once after the previous bull market there is much expectations on the price to increase continuously. Once there is no big movement with bitcoin, everyone's eye turned towards altcoins. Further discussion started as it is the year of altcoins, particularly ethereum. That created some expectation for some time period. After a long this year we've experienced the real bull trend.

Over the past few years we've been part of the volatile market that is good for the traders. This year has brought in the profit for all the long term holders. Almost similar pattern as the previous bull market have happened, only the price difference is big this time. So, I expect some form of bearish move by the falling year.
legendary
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November 25, 2021, 03:52:26 PM
#74
It is interesting to see how many people think a crypto winter like the one we saw on 2018 will make its appearance, I think there are several factors that go against it, but one of the most prominent is the state of the economy itself, back then a great deal of the increase in the price of bitcoin came from pure speculation, however a not so small portion of the current growth can be attributed to investors looking for a store of value, and as long as the economy is in a bad shape this should remain true for 2022, so I expect investors to keep coming to the market as the economy fails to recover according to the goals set by the politicians and their economists.
We wont really remove on someones mind on what happened back in the past which you couldnt really blame off on people to think up this way so its better to take yourself that risk management thing.

Expect the unexpected because this market is always been unpredictable in the first place.Things that happened before might happen to this present or into the future which means
that you do take out actions basing on your experience.

Anticipate for things to happen because not all would really be that precise to happen thats why we do keep on speculating.
And I can understand that, after all I was part of that crash as well and I am never going to forget it, but at the same time the circumstances on the markets change, just because something happened in the past it does not necessarily mean that the same is going to happen in the future, especially when the circumstances of the market and the economy in general have changed so much during the last four years, so while I think a correction and even a crash is always possible I do not think we should be worried to see something as bad as what we saw with the crypto winter of 2018.
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November 22, 2021, 06:13:28 PM
#73
I am still optimistic that bullish will continue in 2022, but probably will end before half of 2022 (in Q1 or Q2). If we look at the current situation in crypto market, Bitcoin looks like in a sideways phase. If it continues till the next month, means the chance of the next pump in Bitcoin price can be in half of December till the early of 2022. To achieve $100k must take a quite long time, impossible to reach in 1-2 weeks.
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November 22, 2021, 05:57:22 PM
#72
It is interesting to see how many people think a crypto winter like the one we saw on 2018 will make its appearance, I think there are several factors that go against it, but one of the most prominent is the state of the economy itself, back then a great deal of the increase in the price of bitcoin came from pure speculation, however a not so small portion of the current growth can be attributed to investors looking for a store of value, and as long as the economy is in a bad shape this should remain true for 2022, so I expect investors to keep coming to the market as the economy fails to recover according to the goals set by the politicians and their economists.
We wont really remove on someones mind on what happened back in the past which you couldnt really blame off on people to think up this way so its better to take yourself that risk management thing.

Expect the unexpected because this market is always been unpredictable in the first place.Things that happened before might happen to this present or into the future which means
that you do take out actions basing on your experience.

Anticipate for things to happen because not all would really be that precise to happen thats why we do keep on speculating.
legendary
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November 22, 2021, 04:05:54 PM
#71
It is interesting to see how many people think a crypto winter like the one we saw on 2018 will make its appearance, I think there are several factors that go against it, but one of the most prominent is the state of the economy itself, back then a great deal of the increase in the price of bitcoin came from pure speculation, however a not so small portion of the current growth can be attributed to investors looking for a store of value, and as long as the economy is in a bad shape this should remain true for 2022, so I expect investors to keep coming to the market as the economy fails to recover according to the goals set by the politicians and their economists.
legendary
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November 22, 2021, 03:14:39 PM
#70
it's everyone assumptions, besides many people said that bitcoin this year will be more reproductive than any other year's, I'm not curious about bitcoin propagation even though it will take it time to propagate, i always be comfortable about it regulations in price, now we might expect bitcoin to get higher by next year come 2022, but from me it's not sure and constant that the price of bitcoin will respond positively, because it can be possible that the price will not get ride to our expectation, I'm not disputing the fact that bitcoin will not reach at least one hundred thousand (100k) by next year, but it's under assumption like we did this year.
You are right, it doesn't mean that we are going to get whatever we want with crypto, we could definitely get something much lower as well and that has happened with crypto before. We could live a year like 2021 or 2017 but we could very well live a year like 2018 and nobody knows which one it will be. I am hoping that we will have a good year, but just because we are "hoping" doesn't mean that it will happen.

This is why I do not really have any type of problems with having some uncertainty with the prices, let it be a bit risky and unknown for a while so that our long term investment would be even more valuable. If everyone knows that it will go up, then everyone will buy and then we all would win a small amount, but if people are hesitant like us, and then still invest then there will be many who will not invest and the ones who did will earn a lot more.
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November 22, 2021, 01:38:39 PM
#69
I think 2021-2022 will create new milestones for cryptocurrency. If we think of the bottom position, we see that Bitcoin is in the range of 30-45k, so it seems normal to move upwards, not downwards. And Bitcoin will always do this because the number of investors is constantly increasing. So the chances of backlash are very low.
The chances of backlash is very low, and we don't know how market gonna react with time. I've similar understanding as in the above quote. The price will fall low around $30k and further grow in a gradual manner. Connecting with the previous bull market of 2017, I find the year 2022 to be bearish than bullish.

Once after 2017 market bounce the falling year also had a big expectation. But, everything happened completely on the opposite way. In such a connection 2022 will be bearish and will serve as an opportunity for buyers.
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November 06, 2021, 11:22:24 AM
#68
This is one of the questions that most people are curious about the answer of. In my opinion, 2022 will be a productive year for Bitcoin price. Even if we don't see the bull market in this year, I'm expecting to see it in the next year for certain. We are already quite bearish these days and this will fade away in time. At some point, we will definitely see the bull market. In 2022, we should be able to see the price over $100k.
it's everyone assumptions, besides many people said that bitcoin this year will be more reproductive than any other year's, I'm not curious about bitcoin propagation even though it will take it time to propagate, i always be comfortable about it regulations in price, now we might expect bitcoin to get higher by next year come 2022, but from me it's not sure and constant that the price of bitcoin will respond positively, because it can be possible that the price will not get ride to our expectation, I'm not disputing the fact that bitcoin will not reach at least one hundred thousand (100k) by next year, but it's under assumption like we did this year.
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November 04, 2021, 04:35:32 PM
#67
Since September 2020, Bitcoin has been in a stable bullish phase, and during this time it has conquered many price peaks, currently stopping at ~$64 000 per 1 BTC. An incredible climb. This was followed by a protracted correction and a good recovery in the price of bitcoin. But it didn't go beyond this recovery at ~$53 000, as China again launched another FUD in the crypto space.


But what will happen next for the crypto market? Judging by the sentiment of investors, I have identified several popular opinions on how the price of bitcoin will behave in the future:

- Bitcoin price will reach a new ATH by the end of the year, at ~$ 84 000 - $100 000;

- There will be a repeat of 2017: the price will reach a new ATH (not much higher than the current ATH) and after that a long crypto winter will begin;

- This year there will be no more growth and bitcoin will continue to fall for a long time until it drops to the past ATH (at $20 000), after which the price will consolidate and the market will begin the assault on ATH with renewed vigor;

- Now there will be a slight correction, then the market will recover and in 2022 there will be a new ATH.




There are also different opinions regarding Bitcoin cycles. Over the past 10 years, the market has been strictly divided into phases: Recovery - Accumulation - Growth - Decline.


And if we compare with the full-fledged market cycles that lasted from 2014 to 2017 and from 2018 to 2021, then we are now in the final phase, the Growth phase, which lasted the whole year and now, it seems, how the Fall phase should come. There is logic in this, because the market is constantly growing and sooner or later the era of sales must come in order to fix profits. From an investment point of view, now everything is expensive and it would be nice for large investors to create the conditions that were, say, in the winter of 2019, when all crypto assets were at the bottom and cost as cheap as possible. If we focus on these cycles, then the next major bull run awaits us in 2024-2025, but for now all this time there will be sales and regular accumulations of cheap coins by whales.

So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.

And if we compare with the full-fledged market cycles that lasted from 2013 to 2017 and from 2017 to 2021, then we are now in the final phase, the growth phase, which lasted the whole year and now, it seems, how the Fall phase should come. There is logic in this, because the market is constantly growing and sooner or later the era of sales must come in order to fix profits. From an investment point of view, now everything is expensive and it would be nice for large investors to create the conditions that were, say, in the winter of 2019, when all crypto assets were at the bottom and cost as cheap as possible. If we focus on these cycles, then the next major bull run awaits us in 2024-2025, but for now all this time there will be sales and regular accumulations of cheap coins by whales.

So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.



Who has any opinions on how the crypto market will behave in 2022?
From the information you provide, it is clear that Bitcoin is being dumped on the market once every four years. According to that calculation, Bitcoin is expected to be dumped in 2022. However, according to previous calculations, if we imagine the popularity of Bitcoin, then Bitcoin should not be dumping but pumping.
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November 02, 2021, 02:43:39 PM
#66
Bullish sentiment, that's what people are feeling now.

The last quarter of the year IMO is very crucial, it will dictate the possible situation next year, so as I am bullish, I like to see a bullish year-end close for bitcoin and another ATH which could be around $70k to $80k. By next year, if the market will not experience a heavy correction, I'm expecting that $100k will be easily achieved and when that price is reached, I don't know what next as I don't see any ceiling anymore especially when the hype getting bigger and bigger.
If that pivotal quarter goes well for IMO, it's a sign of some kind of move in crypto that could warrant a bigger pump by the end of the year, and I expect Ethereum and bitcoin to peak, but those caps are usually hype in erratic amounts, albeit on coins. certain the hype is not that big when compared to memecoin which is in an unpopular position.
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November 02, 2021, 08:17:33 AM
#65
Bullish sentiment, that's what people are feeling now.

The last quarter of the year IMO is very crucial, it will dictate the possible situation next year, so as I am bullish, I like to see a bullish year-end close for bitcoin and another ATH which could be around $70k to $80k. By next year, if the market will not experience a heavy correction, I'm expecting that $100k will be easily achieved and when that price is reached, I don't know what next as I don't see any ceiling anymore especially when the hype getting bigger and bigger.
legendary
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November 02, 2021, 06:52:55 AM
#64
What I suggest being careful about is the drops like we had recently, from 67k to 60k is still a drop, yes it is not a huge crash, we didn't fall to 30k but it was still a fall. I believe that the future will be exactly like that, we will go up a lot, and then a small fall and then another big up, keep repeating that for a long time.
No bull trend will be without any drop. So, you need to be smart how you are going to make use of drops and rises. Some people may buy and sell along with swings of markets but most other people may keep holding without taking any action at peaks but may keep buying at dips. My plans are the second way to keep buying at dips for the ultimate target of $100 to $120k levels.

We can expect more stronger bullish trend in this November month which may get us $80k to $95k in most extreme cases (worse case may not be giving out positive growth for this month which means either may see $80k or $50k).
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November 01, 2021, 10:59:02 AM
#63
Since September 2020, Bitcoin has been in a stable bullish phase, and during this time it has conquered many price peaks, currently stopping at ~$64 000 per 1 BTC. An incredible climb. This was followed by a protracted correction and a good recovery in the price of bitcoin. But it didn't go beyond this recovery at ~$53 000, as China again launched another FUD in the crypto space.


But what will happen next for the crypto market? Judging by the sentiment of investors, I have identified several popular opinions on how the price of bitcoin will behave in the future:

- Bitcoin price will reach a new ATH by the end of the year, at ~$ 84 000 - $100 000;

- There will be a repeat of 2017: the price will reach a new ATH (not much higher than the current ATH) and after that a long crypto winter will begin;

- This year there will be no more growth and bitcoin will continue to fall for a long time until it drops to the past ATH (at $20 000), after which the price will consolidate and the market will begin the assault on ATH with renewed vigor;

- Now there will be a slight correction, then the market will recover and in 2022 there will be a new ATH.




There are also different opinions regarding Bitcoin cycles. Over the past 10 years, the market has been strictly divided into phases: Recovery - Accumulation - Growth - Decline.


And if we compare with the full-fledged market cycles that lasted from 2014 to 2017 and from 2018 to 2021, then we are now in the final phase, the Growth phase, which lasted the whole year and now, it seems, how the Fall phase should come. There is logic in this, because the market is constantly growing and sooner or later the era of sales must come in order to fix profits. From an investment point of view, now everything is expensive and it would be nice for large investors to create the conditions that were, say, in the winter of 2019, when all crypto assets were at the bottom and cost as cheap as possible. If we focus on these cycles, then the next major bull run awaits us in 2024-2025, but for now all this time there will be sales and regular accumulations of cheap coins by whales.

So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.

And if we compare with the full-fledged market cycles that lasted from 2013 to 2017 and from 2017 to 2021, then we are now in the final phase, the growth phase, which lasted the whole year and now, it seems, how the Fall phase should come. There is logic in this, because the market is constantly growing and sooner or later the era of sales must come in order to fix profits. From an investment point of view, now everything is expensive and it would be nice for large investors to create the conditions that were, say, in the winter of 2019, when all crypto assets were at the bottom and cost as cheap as possible. If we focus on these cycles, then the next major bull run awaits us in 2024-2025, but for now all this time there will be sales and regular accumulations of cheap coins by whales.

So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.



Who has any opinions on how the crypto market will behave in 2022?
There will be competition experienced by bitcoin to reach such a high peak, even what makes people increasingly fond of bitcoin can not be separated from its readiness to face the storm in the correction phase, even though the current condition of bitcoin has not reached the price expected by large investors, the condition of china which has begun to launch FUD will also have an impact on bitcoin, although it is not so big the impact and influence felt by bitcoin, this situation we can see how bitcoin when china forbids its citizens to trade freely in crypto.
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November 01, 2021, 08:34:53 AM
#62
Most people expecting the bull run to continue is a good sign. I really hoped that people would be able to get out of this mindset that every up needs to be balanced with a huge crash. Still, we could always have a crash, I am not saying that it is impossible, however we do not have to have it right away and we could go up for a very long time. It looks like we are in a situation where bitcoin will go up and will continue to go up.

What I suggest being careful about is the drops like we had recently, from 67k to 60k is still a drop, yes it is not a huge crash, we didn't fall to 30k but it was still a fall. I believe that the future will be exactly like that, we will go up a lot, and then a small fall and then another big up, keep repeating that for a long time.
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October 30, 2021, 04:45:01 PM
#61
I'm a bit curious why everyone is so quick to point to 2013 & 2017 as a repeating fractal that will continue, while at the same time saying that the bubble won't pop this time because it's different.  It does give me hope though.  Somebody has to buy the top and judging from this poll they are beginning to line up to do so.  More power to you.  Somebody's got to take my bags off my hands.  I'll happily hand them over at $200K and buy them back at $40K in a year or two.  For now, let the pump continue!  Let there be 40 days and 40 nights of rocket ship rally in our immediate future.
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October 30, 2021, 08:45:21 AM
#60
In any case, we see years after since 2014, Mt.gox appears to be here again to cause another dump on the market. Rehabilitation for the creditors will be finalized on November 20. Those creditors will receive 137,890 coins.

So, from November 20 on, there won't be any more selling pressure that comes from the Mt.gox case, ever? It's not bad that old burdens from the past get removed little by little, like this one.

I hope that in 2022 the Cryptopia case gets solved too, which won't have in the market, in any case, the effect Mt.gox has had, but just to comment.
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October 30, 2021, 08:14:51 AM
#59
@gabbie2010. You should begin to be cautious on 2022. You created your bitcointalk account on 2017, you should be familiar with the feeling of 2018 hehehe.

In any case, we see years after since 2014, Mt.gox appears to be here again to cause another dump on the market. Rehabilitation for the creditors will be finalized on November 20. Those creditors will receive 137,890 coins.



Source https://mobile.twitter.com/cryptoquant_com/status/1451169004689584130?s=12

This will be an interesting and potentially decisive event I think. Even if many of these creditors won't dump their Bitcoin and decide to hold most of it, it's $8.5 billion of btc going back into circulation. That liquidity could impact the price quite heavily in the short-term, given it's 0.73% of the current circulating supply returning to early investors. At present there is around $2.5 billion buy volume, with $40 million trading per day, so the spot market wouldn't be able to handle those quantities in one go. I imagine a lot of this may end up being sold via the custody services of exchanges that have a larger reserve, if it does indeed get sold.

That's not exactly a good sign either if exchanges end up with more Bitcoin than they want to be holding...
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October 23, 2021, 01:30:09 AM
#58
@gabbie2010. You should begin to be cautious on 2022. You created your bitcointalk account on 2017, you should be familiar with the feeling of 2018 hehehe.

In any case, we see years after since 2014, Mt.gox appears to be here again to cause another dump on the market. Rehabilitation for the creditors will be finalized on November 20. Those creditors will receive 137,890 coins.



Source https://mobile.twitter.com/cryptoquant_com/status/1451169004689584130?s=12
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October 10, 2021, 07:41:29 PM
#57
I think that 2022 will be one of the greatest years for Bitcoin on the condition that we don't see any bull run before the end of this year. Because if we see it in this year, then there will be not much left for 2022 actually. Because the bull market will end at some point and a new bear market will greet us for a long time I believe. So, 2022 could be a boring year then.
I agreed with your prediction for Bitcoin to be bullish come 2022, it price has to continue to move steadily without the unusual pump to another ATH this year again, this might trigger another bearish run just like when the price attained ATH consequently resulted to bearish runs in mid May this year, personally I prefers it price to attain another ATH in 2022 that means the price will be closely to $100K or above, all the analysis is subject to non availability of any negative fundamental news that might mar our bullish prediction of the price in 2022.
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October 10, 2021, 06:59:24 PM
#56
In history, Bitcoin was immature as far as its retail community is considered to be those making markets and then crashing it, then whether we talk about 2013 or 2017, it's every 4 years btc shows some big moves. While it is 2021, btc has not yet started to show any big gains compared to the last 2 quad years in regards to percentage which opens more room for btc to move upwards. We are still waiting for an ETF to be approved by SEC and if it happens, we cannot imagine where will btc stop and I think history will not repeat itself through a market crash in the later period, but this run will continue to grow.
Do you believe that Bitcoin price will create a double ATH on this year if we remember the last ATH was in April this month and the price was in the $60k range and then suddenly dropped by mid of July?  I think it is, many speculations that there will be a new ATH this year before or after the Q4 will end.

Though the FUD of China continued spreading Bitcoin wasn't affected.  We still reached the $54k range yesterday and that was a good sign that right after correction it will pump again until it will break the previous and considering a new ATH will come.

Anyway, as a majority vote wins, there will be a new ATH.
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October 10, 2021, 03:37:40 PM
#55
In history, Bitcoin was immature as far as its retail community is considered to be those making markets and then crashing it, then whether we talk about 2013 or 2017, it's every 4 years btc shows some big moves. While it is 2021, btc has not yet started to show any big gains compared to the last 2 quad years in regards to percentage which opens more room for btc to move upwards. We are still waiting for an ETF to be approved by SEC and if it happens, we cannot imagine where will btc stop and I think history will not repeat itself through a market crash in the later period, but this run will continue to grow.
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October 10, 2021, 02:38:36 PM
#54
~snip~

I may have gotten the wrong impression reading posts on this forum, but except for a small percentage of older members, most others are constantly living in doubt and panic and you can easily sell them any story, especially the one about the approaching crypto winter. Maybe these are the ones you mention, because in some parts of the world Bitcoin is promoted as magic internet money, which leads to a lot of people expecting magical earnings in a market that is extremely volatile.

Those "when Lambo" people been here for a few years, I would expect them to
have a clearer understanding of the market.

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2022, I'm thinking we cannot necessarily base our outlook on 2017, I get it that there
may be a bit of a sell of at $100k for a few reasons but I think based on this "super cycle"
being mentioned 2022 wont be like 2018.

As above I would like to think that people who experienced 2017 and stayed involved
until now have a better understanding and dont have the Magic Internet Money mentality.
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October 10, 2021, 01:31:42 PM
#53
I think that as time goes by, we should be even less optimistic about huge changes. It's not a million dollar market cap joke anymore, but a trillion. Billionaires can't affect it, the same way they could in 2013 or in 2017. I don't know what will really send it to $100k-ish, $200k-ish, $300k-ish etc, but my opinion is to enjoy what we currently have.

This asset has proved it's gaining more and more attention long term. There's even more speculation which stabilize it in a way. I think that it's meant to succeed and hell yeah, I want to be part of it and increase my accumulation position.
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October 10, 2021, 01:20:06 PM
#52
If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.
If the bull run really did start right now, wouldn't the 1st quarter be the part where the correction happens? But even so it's going to be a treacherous journey for everyone especially for hodlers that have a specific number in mind including me which might frustrate and disappoint us.

We are probably at the start of the last quarter bull run right now. This could be the largest one that will finally bring Bitcoin's price to $100,000 at least. S2F prediction, which has been pretty much accurate more or less for the past months and years, has Bitcoin at $135,000 this coming December. If this happens, or even at $100,000, I am expecting a correction in the first months of 2022. But if the price fails to touch $100,000, then it is expected that it will come by January. The rest of the first quarter is bound to be correction time.
The times ahead of us are going to be quite interesting, I do not have any doubts we are about to see a significant amount of growth during the next months but what will happen after that, are we going to see a repetition of the crash we saw in 2018?

To me that is the most important question we need to figure out, because even if I think that after the bull run a correction is inevitable at the same time I would wish to know how big the correction could be, as I have a slight suspicion that things are not going to be as bad as they got back then and the price will be more stable on its way down.
STT
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October 10, 2021, 12:57:40 PM
#51
2022 should be a year of accumulation, I dont think we have to get a new high price or anything dramatic but its on the menu.  My feelings for this year was that we had topped and had to revise price action, which we have been doing positively.   Its been bullish but I dont assume we must go upwards immediately, 2022 may well see more pressure occurring with accumulated buying but I have to see it first.   There is always sellers waiting, BTC is just very speculative.
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October 10, 2021, 12:16:39 PM
#50
I don't want to be negative that the winter will come to crypto again as there's always the cycle. But if it breaks the cycle next year and there's another bull run where it will be reaching another ATH then that's better to see than the bear market.

What is going to happen in 2022 will be highly dependent on where are are going to end 2021. The probable endings of 2021 for bitcoin market are $120k or $190k or $380k. These are based on 10x growth (and repeating of history) in 4 year cycle. (If you consider 10k was the right growth in 2017 then $100k will be the ATH in 2021 because some speculators argue 10k to 19k in December 2017 was a bubble and need to ignore such numbers).
These prices are too high IMHO. $100k is even high but that's the highest that we can ever speculate with a possible accuracy to be ending this year but I would love to see it when it's already $380k.
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October 10, 2021, 03:34:19 AM
#49
- Bitcoin price will reach a new ATH by the end of the year, at ~$ 84 000 - $100 000;
What is going to happen in 2022 will be highly dependent on where are are going to end 2021. The probable endings of 2021 for bitcoin market are $120k or $190k or $380k. These are based on 10x growth (and repeating of history) in 4 year cycle. (If you consider 10k was the right growth in 2017 then $100k will be the ATH in 2021 because some speculators argue 10k to 19k in December 2017 was a bubble and need to ignore such numbers).

- This year there will be no more growth and bitcoin will continue to fall for a long time until it drops to the past ATH (at $20 000), after which the price will consolidate and the market will begin the assault on ATH with renewed vigor;
If there will be no more growth in 2021 then we will definitely have a new ATH in 2022. But, I do not prefer to break 4 year cycle of bitcoin for any political influences but bitcoin is known for defeating all negative news and to grow on its own potential hence lesser possibilities to have bear markets here after.

- Now there will be a slight correction, then the market will recover and in 2022 there will be a new ATH.
If 10x growth will not happen this year then which might be due to correction markets here after and then we may have a new ATH in 2022.
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October 10, 2021, 12:45:18 AM
#48
The odds are at a good place right now, 60+ to 30+ is a good odd to be honest, I wouldn't want to be in a circle jerk situation where 90%+ says we are going to be in a bull run, that is not really cool to be in because you are not going to get true outcomes and beliefs in that situation, it is going to be just bunch of people who think the same all got together, which makes no sense to me.

I believe we are doing fine right now, and we are going to see new ATH next year, but I am also saying kudos to everyone who believes it will be crypto winter as well, and enjoyed every post that says so. I personally care about every angle and not just with people I agree with.

Yes, we are obviously doing fine right now, and we might be heading for a new all time high this month alone.

And for those who preach crypto winter as early as time that? Nah, they have their narrative behind pushing down the price in this bullish trend. Obviously, crypto winter will come no matter what, but it's better if we will tackle it when we are there. Not in this kind of sentiments wherein we haven't reach the goal of 6 digits yet for this year.
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October 09, 2021, 03:26:12 PM
#47
The odds are at a good place right now, 60+ to 30+ is a good odd to be honest, I wouldn't want to be in a circle jerk situation where 90%+ says we are going to be in a bull run, that is not really cool to be in because you are not going to get true outcomes and beliefs in that situation, it is going to be just bunch of people who think the same all got together, which makes no sense to me.

I believe we are doing fine right now, and we are going to see new ATH next year, but I am also saying kudos to everyone who believes it will be crypto winter as well, and enjoyed every post that says so. I personally care about every angle and not just with people I agree with.
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October 08, 2021, 11:37:47 PM
#46
If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.
If the bull run really did start right now, wouldn't the 1st quarter be the part where the correction happens? But even so it's going to be a treacherous journey for everyone especially for hodlers that have a specific number in mind including me which might frustrate and disappoint us.

We are probably at the start of the last quarter bull run right now. This could be the largest one that will finally bring Bitcoin's price to $100,000 at least. S2F prediction, which has been pretty much accurate more or less for the past months and years, has Bitcoin at $135,000 this coming December. If this happens, or even at $100,000, I am expecting a correction in the first months of 2022. But if the price fails to touch $100,000, then it is expected that it will come by January. The rest of the first quarter is bound to be correction time.

Agreed. Anyone who larps that there will be a continued bull market for 2022 might be people who are in denial of the reality of market cycles. Also, they might not have considered how much leverage was used to pump bitcoin to its present level. A deleveraging event will always occur when the bubble pops.

I also predict the government to regulate and give powers to stablecoin issuers to manipulate how much liquidity enters the cryptospace and through them the control on who is allowed to access the cryptospace.

It appears that the roadmap to regulate and control these stablecoin issuers is being created. The regulations might not be released on 2022 but the only way to control the cryptospace is also to have control on the central source of its liquidity. After a crackdown on stablecoins will be strict regulations.



The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. (FDIC), a key U.S. banking regulator, is studying whether certain stablecoins might be eligible for its coverage, five people familiar with the agency’s thinking said.

The discussions are preliminary, and it’s not clear what the timetable would be for making any policy decisions or how such changes would be communicated.


Source https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2021/10/06/us-fdic-said-to-be-studying-deposit-insurance-for-stablecoins/
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October 07, 2021, 01:14:04 PM
#45
I may have gotten the wrong impression reading posts on this forum, but except for a small percentage of older members, most others are constantly living in doubt and panic and you can easily sell them any story, especially the one about the approaching crypto winter. Maybe these are the ones you mention, because in some parts of the world Bitcoin is promoted as magic internet money, which leads to a lot of people expecting magical earnings in a market that is extremely volatile.
That is because people are not really well versed in crypto just yet. Most of the time newbies are here, the old veterans do not write daily and constantly, I have been here for many years and I rather talk about other stuff, not how to trade, I can't really bother to teach people how to make money from crypto.

However, newbies are here all the time and they talk about it and someone who has been trading for a month end up talking about how to make money, like dude when did you become an expert and started to teach people how to trade. I personally prefer to do this alone and without anyone’s help if I were a newbie these days, do not ask people how to do something, learn it from google and courses and youtube videos, that would be a lot better.
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October 06, 2021, 03:33:32 PM
#44
in my opinion, the biggest indicator that there is a significant chance that Bitcoin can continue positively in 2022 lies in the fact that this time the market is strongly influenced by the factor of institutional involvement. I think that factor gives much more credibility to Bitcoin than it has been in the past, and all the good that has been happening in recent months still outweighs all the bad news, or maybe it's better to say all the news that the media wants to portray as extremely bad.
That is basically what it could be done in the future at the same time as well. Yes, bitcoin has increased a lot, and it has made some people millionaires with the type of increase it has, but that doesn't change the fact that if you buy right now, you will not get rich and become a millionaire with only a few thousand dollar investment. Do you really believe that there is a chance to get 100x return from bitcoin? I doubt that is possible. So, all those people who are upset over bitcoin price get upset not only because the price didn't go up as they imagined it would, they are also upset about the fact that there is no way they could make the kind of profit others before them made.
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October 06, 2021, 05:23:06 AM
#43
~snip~

I may have gotten the wrong impression reading posts on this forum, but except for a small percentage of older members, most others are constantly living in doubt and panic and you can easily sell them any story, especially the one about the approaching crypto winter. Maybe these are the ones you mention, because in some parts of the world Bitcoin is promoted as magic internet money, which leads to a lot of people expecting magical earnings in a market that is extremely volatile.
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October 06, 2021, 01:21:31 AM
#42
If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.
If the bull run really did start right now, wouldn't the 1st quarter be the part where the correction happens? But even so it's going to be a treacherous journey for everyone especially for hodlers that have a specific number in mind including me which might frustrate and disappoint us.

We are probably at the start of the last quarter bull run right now. This could be the largest one that will finally bring Bitcoin's price to $100,000 at least. S2F prediction, which has been pretty much accurate more or less for the past months and years, has Bitcoin at $135,000 this coming December. If this happens, or even at $100,000, I am expecting a correction in the first months of 2022. But if the price fails to touch $100,000, then it is expected that it will come by January. The rest of the first quarter is bound to be correction time.

Agreed. Anyone who larps that there will be a continued bull market for 2022 might be people who are in denial of the reality of market cycles. Also, they might not have considered how much leverage was used to pump bitcoin to its present level. A deleveraging event will always occur when the bubble pops.

I also predict the government to regulate and give powers to stablecoin issuers to manipulate how much liquidity enters the cryptospace and through them the control on who is allowed to access the cryptospace.
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October 06, 2021, 01:04:16 AM
#41
As we have already commented in some other threads, people obviously only care about what happened a month or two ago, and they are not too interested in anything older than that. This coincides with short-term profits, so we have more dissatisfied (impatient) who ask "when $100k?", than those who are happy because the price increase is as much as 1800% in a very short period, especially if we take the effects of the pandemic to all other investments.
Interesting theory but it makes no sense to me. If it were 1 or 2 weeks then it would have made some sense at least because that would cover the short term traders at least, anything longer than that falls under the category of long term investors who won't care about 1 or 2 months price changes.
As for the dissatisfied people, in my experience these are the same people who expect price to "pump" every week thinking bitcoin is a way to become a millionaire overnight if they only invest $1 in it. Which has nothing to do with traders or investors, etc. Smiley
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October 05, 2021, 09:07:01 PM
#40
If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.
If the bull run really did start right now, wouldn't the 1st quarter be the part where the correction happens? But even so it's going to be a treacherous journey for everyone especially for hodlers that have a specific number in mind including me which might frustrate and disappoint us.

We are probably at the start of the last quarter bull run right now. This could be the largest one that will finally bring Bitcoin's price to $100,000 at least. S2F prediction, which has been pretty much accurate more or less for the past months and years, has Bitcoin at $135,000 this coming December. If this happens, or even at $100,000, I am expecting a correction in the first months of 2022. But if the price fails to touch $100,000, then it is expected that it will come by January. The rest of the first quarter is bound to be correction time.
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October 05, 2021, 08:39:27 PM
#39
If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.
If the bull run really did start right now, wouldn't the 1st quarter be the part where the correction happens? But even so it's going to be a treacherous journey for everyone especially for hodlers that have a specific number in mind including me which might frustrate and disappoint us.
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October 05, 2021, 06:46:06 PM
#38
If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.
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October 05, 2021, 06:37:31 PM
#37
I'm tired of technically guessing the market price in the future and instead of doing that, sometimes I think it's better to let the price where it goes.
And now, I'm following on this, Bitcoin Price Prediction For 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024 And 2025, I've been following them for years and it seems they had an accurate result.

According to them, if Bitcoin price will break the new ATH this year until Q4.  That is the start that they will resist until the Q4 of the next year 2022 and it could be at that time, the anticipated price that anyone predicted the $100k of Bitcoin price will potentially be the next target.

IMO, it's possible that it will reach that price since there are too many factors and a lot that has happened now.  Country's legalization and big company's adoption will most likely be the main reason we will reach even $100k by the next year 2022.
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October 05, 2021, 01:59:55 PM
#36
I think it's been pretty clear since this Spring, when Bitcoin went sideway for a few months instead of building up to a huge blow-off top, that the market has matured significantly since the last cycle. Blow-off tops are now left for the uninformed investors of random altcoins and meme tokens now. The Bitcoin market is much more mature now.

This whole decade will likely be a super cycle bull run.
This year we got a few months of bull run, stabilizing, then a moderate crash for a couple months. Now we're back to the bull run part. Roughly this sort of pattern is likely to continue for years: bitcoin goes up, wary investors cash out, price corrects for a while but doesn't come close to a crypto winter, then as accumulation increases the market turns back to bullish and new ATHs are broken.

So for 2022 I expect new ATHs. I expect Bitcoin to go over $100k, and then probably spend a few months back under $100k before rising back up probably later in the year. For the most part I expect every year to have new ATHs this decade.
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October 05, 2021, 01:03:21 PM
#35
Sell it at the height of its bubble! This is the argument you'll see most in all forums of discussion. The problem with this argument is that there is no historical precedent to support this opinion.
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October 05, 2021, 07:59:47 AM
#34
So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.

Although your question is in the realm of speculation, I chose the first option because I think some things will change and that it is possible that we will not have a repetition of the identical situation that happened in the past - that is, to what is best known to everyone, the beginning of the crypto winter in 2018.

Although some disagree with this, in my opinion, the biggest indicator that there is a significant chance that Bitcoin can continue positively in 2022 lies in the fact that this time the market is strongly influenced by the factor of institutional involvement. I think that factor gives much more credibility to Bitcoin than it has been in the past, and all the good that has been happening in recent months still outweighs all the bad news, or maybe it's better to say all the news that the media wants to portray as extremely bad.

What is perhaps the biggest problem at the moment is the uncertainty in the US with the liquidity of their monetary system, which can no longer meet its obligations, and we all know that such a situation is reflected in the global markets of which Bitcoin is a part.



I don't know what more bullish sign you want from bitcoin other than 1800% rise!!!

As we have already commented in some other threads, people obviously only care about what happened a month or two ago, and they are not too interested in anything older than that. This coincides with short-term profits, so we have more dissatisfied (impatient) who ask "when $100k?", than those who are happy because the price increase is as much as 1800% in a very short period, especially if we take the effects of the pandemic to all other investments.
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October 05, 2021, 07:21:18 AM
#33
I expect the pandemic to finally come to an end and the global economy starting to recover very fast in 2022. This might seem like a pretty bullish sign for Bitcoin,
I disagree simply because the pandemic didn't have a significant [negative] effect on bitcoin for its end to have any significant [positive] effect on it either. Take a look at the past years when we have been dealing with the Pandemic. Fiat is losing its value and other assets have been severely under-performing excluding those that got dumped hard meanwhile bitcoin has gone up 1800%.

I don't know what more bullish sign you want from bitcoin other than 1800% rise!!!
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October 05, 2021, 05:57:16 AM
#32
I expect the pandemic to finally come to an end and the global economy starting to recover very fast in 2022.
This might seem like a pretty bullish sign for Bitcoin,but I don't think that the governments will become friendly towards the cryptocurrency industry during 2022.We might see big time government FUD,this time coming from the USA and the EU.
One thing is certain-the Bitcoin price will remain volatile,with ups and downs,bull runs and price drops.
I'm expecting a price between 60K and 80K in 2022,if there's no major BTC ban in the western world.
 
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October 04, 2021, 12:58:51 PM
#31
We can't quite say for sure that 2022 is a real bull that can reach a new ATH but I realize from the many predictions about bitcoin will be better than now, is it possible that this will keep the promise where bitcoin can skyrocket?

On the other hand, winter is always associated with bearishness, which means that investors who have struggled to buy bitcoin from now on but in reality it can happen, just imagine they will definitely think about how to maintain the existing atmosphere.

But I think the starting point in 2022 would be better as a good bridge.
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October 04, 2021, 12:20:49 PM
#30
I believe that in 2022 Bitcoin would still be the same as what we had this year yet during in winter if bearish would successfully took the market then we'll completely going straight in a bearish season. It seems to me that people are learning their lessons in the past to not just dump when China pull their ban-fud card.
Bitcoin holders were smart enough now to think that price of bitcoin will increase more yearly. Tgough we can see last year upto this year that BTc is able to pump despite pandemic then what more once many countries open their boundaries for economy. We can not prdeict the mind of big companies whether to enter crypto or not but soon when the market seems stable they might try going into it too. Next year pump will depend whether pandemic ends or it will just keep its pace ranging with the same prices it is during the last quarter.
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October 04, 2021, 12:04:47 PM
#29
What if instead of bearish or bullish markets Bitcoin will just be bound in a range between $30k and $60k for the whole year? This is also a possible scenario if there's not enough people willing to buy, either for the first time or as additional purchases, but also if not enough people believe that the crash is coming and show their #stronghands, then the price has no reason to move too far from where it is now. If this happened, I would take it as a positive sign that Bitcoin is maturing.
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October 04, 2021, 05:15:16 AM
#28
I don't have that much expectation, bitcoin tends to break expectations so I don't expect too much or too big from bitcoin, for me it's the prices and more people and institutions including countries continue to adopt bitcoin.
Me too, bitcoin has done a lot of things before that we never expected, I remember when at that time bitcoin was still around the hundred dollar mark and not a lot of people really thought anything that it will go higher than that and then it did.
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October 04, 2021, 05:09:12 AM
#27
I expect that 1BTC will be equal 1BTC

The prediction is probably one of the most accurate I've ever seen here, but when we talk about crypto, no prediction is foolproof.  Cheesy
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October 03, 2021, 09:07:45 PM
#26
Usually bitcoin's price increases in the end of the year and that is what I expect from now on. I see no reason for a pessimistic wave on crypto currency right now. Things are pretty good and adoption is evolving well. Regulations are coming from different countries and although I don't like it, they are inevitable. Early adopters will have to get used to it and understand they can be benefical for bringing a portion of the population to adopt btc too, as many people only do what their governments say they are allowed to do (through regulations).

Meanwhile more (and new) investors are also developing interest for crypto currencies day by day, as we have children getting older and traditional investors finally changing their minds about bitcoin due to the reputation the digital currency has been able to build along the years. If some investors want to cashout their profits I think it won't have a big impact at all, because there will be many others willing to buy yet.
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October 03, 2021, 01:23:53 PM
#25
I expect that 1BTC will be equal 1BTC
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October 03, 2021, 01:14:12 PM
#24
Interesting to see that the results are so close to each other, I assumed that people would be expecting a lot more from crypto and I assumed that we would be doing a lot better as well. Turns out we are not really there yet and we should definitely be doing a lot better in the long run to convince people we are fine.

In the end it is still the bull sayers that are more in numbers and I hope that it will stay like that, it would become a self-fulfilling prophecy if it was like that. However, I also believe that 100k is still possible in 2022 while many people disagree with me so I do not know what to think anymore, let's hope that I am right because that would mean great things for all of us.
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October 03, 2021, 12:12:40 PM
#23
I believe that in 2022 Bitcoin would still be the same as what we had this year yet during in winter if bearish would successfully took the market then we'll completely going straight in a bearish season. It seems to me that people are learning their lessons in the past to not just dump when China pull their ban-fud card.

Investors are crucial to the market because they are the ones who are going to help us pump the market even more but I would never think it would break another resistance next year. We are most likely going to hover to $40k to $50k until December I suppose then investors starts to dump then bear season activate or I could be wrong in my prediction. Grin
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October 03, 2021, 05:56:10 AM
#22
It depends on both the "adoption" story and on the "valuation" story.
Bitcoin has become a better store of value, for the reasons mentioned earlier, because of its growing acceptance in society. Let's also not forget that blockchain technology is what the financial industry is trying to build on. If "the Bitcoin industry" can grow more, adoption will improve, therefore increasing "valuation" and on the other hand adoption will remain a key to prove the possibility of building a viable Bitcoin as a store of value.

Adoption is clearly happening, however one should be cautious. As mentioned earlier, adoption of bitcoin as a means of payment is still relatively low and price increases for bitcoin has mostly been driven by speculators, which can be described as volatility.

The increased adoption of bitcoin has also been tempered by the highly uncertain economic environment and the ongoing regulatory uncertainty. In fact, the bitcoin market is largely unregulated and in many countries those who buy bitcoin are susceptible to losing all their money if things go south.
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October 02, 2021, 01:28:44 AM
#21
It is hard to choose from these 2 options because the answer is "it depends".

You see 2018 bear market that lasted a year happened BECAUSE there was a BUBBLE. Just like the 2014 bear market and 2011 bear market and so on.
So if we are to see same prolonged bear markets repeat, we first have to see a BUBBLE of the same MAGNITUDE. So far we are nowhere near the same size of the bubble since said bubble would only occur between $400k and $500k.

So the answer is: it depends on whether we can see the same massive bubble at the end of this cycle possibly in first quarter of 2022 or is the 4 year cycle finally broken in which case we can no longer see the prolonged bear market only small drops that last a very short time like a month or two.
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October 02, 2021, 12:34:55 AM
#20
Every year bitcoin always make a good history despite of some struggles due to some factors, even this year it cope to survive and breaks new all time high value, so for sure in year 2022 there will be more event with bitcoin.. Or should i say more opportunity in the future for all who still keep hodling their eggs, because of being so optimistic and very promising even there are some frauds and negative feedbacks around the internet..
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October 01, 2021, 11:05:48 PM
#19
Its hard to say because alot of it has external factors. For example, I can easily see ATH before 2022 if there is some catalyst such as

1) ETF approval
2) Large company put BTC on Balance sheet like Tesla
3) Stock market indicies keep making new ATHs

However its hard to say what will happen without a catalyst. We had a big rally and people are already expecting $100-$250K or so. I don't think this is a dead cat bounce however without the proper catalyst and volume, it would be hard to reach something like $100K. We could just do 2013 all over again and peak again sometime in late Nov-Dec and 2022 might be nothing more than a decline cycle.
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October 01, 2021, 01:45:21 PM
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Just want to remind, for anyone who hasn't made a choice on this vote, here are the preliminary results from the 15 users who voted. You may need to take a little part in voting and giving an opinion on how the crypto market will behave in 2022.  Cheesy



I chose the second one, but in the last 24 hours the crypto market cap has grown by more than 9%. Total cryptocurrency trading volume as of today is $144 Billion according to https://www.coingecko.com. Bitcoin dominance is at 41.4% and Ethereum dominance at 17.8%.
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October 01, 2021, 01:14:54 PM
#17
Today there is another twist back the price went nearly 5K higher and I didn't find the exact reason for the hike but it confuses more for sure. however I am not convinced that we are still in the bullish trend and the price will reach a new all time high, its more like a dead cat bounce or can be a manipulation by whales before the hard dump.
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September 30, 2021, 10:11:27 PM
#16
I think that before talking about 2022, I'm going to wait a bit to see how the final months of the year go. If the next couple of months we see the upside that many predictive models expect, such as S2F, beating ATH and passing $100K, we can debate whether in 2022 we are going to enter a bear market as in previous cycles or this time it is going to be different due to institutional demand.

The problem is if the next few months the price does not take off, and we get to December for example in the $40K. Then we enter uncharted territory where the predictive models used so far will have failed and we will have to rethink.
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September 30, 2021, 09:06:48 PM
#15
If we hit 6 digits at the end of the year or early 2022, I would say what follows might be a dump, or at least a bear cycle again.

So in any case, we should all be prepared for the worst, keep some profits in this bull run and then be cautious after that. This is just my opinion though, and I might be wrong here.
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September 30, 2021, 08:04:37 PM
#14
We just entered the last quarter of the year but I think there will still be many things that will happen.
Economic recovery is happening because they are opening a lot of industries and that includes the entertainment industry where cryptocurrencies are being used for payment of tickets and other stuffs.
I think we have never seen the real stretch of a pump for this year. Imagine if the pandemic didn't exist, where could Bitcoin be.
Did it really have a positive reaction for people to have knowledge about it or is it just the same thing pre-pandemic?
IMO, I am expecting a big swing before the year's end. $60k is my top and could be the new bottom at the start of 2022 until the end of its first quarter.
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September 30, 2021, 07:26:49 PM
#13
We still have 3 months left before 2021 will end. And within 3 months, there is still a lot to happen to Bitcoin.
For me, what I am expecting is another cycle, a separate cycle from what we experience these past few years it could be a bear run but the dump is minimal, maybe we could stay around until $20,000 - $30,000 and volatility is high there, then more sideways and that's for me another bear run and after that, followed by a bull run.
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September 30, 2021, 06:39:38 PM
#12
Since every prediction is not accurate, I will share my own view about the future of Bitcoin, especially for next year. I'm seeing another new ATH won't happen soon. Price will be at around $50,000 at the top and $30,000 at the bottom and it will play there for about a year.

And for the bearish trend, we won't be seeing again the crash that happened last 2018. It's a disappointment if Bitcoin price will reach again the $10,000 value after all the progress it made way up to the current price. It will just lead to more crashes as how it was possible for Bitcoin to crash down at that price again.

I choose the 2nd option on the Poll but not totally it will be the same as the 2018 bear market.

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September 30, 2021, 06:32:19 PM
#11
I personally think that the bullish sentiment will likely be quelled for a bit.

It seems like that people are getting a bit more cautious investing in crypto and the excitement and sheer mania in recent days, for better or for worst.

A likely outcome is simply that we continue hovering around the $20k-40k range. I don't think that $20k support can be breached any time soon, but I also think that resistance at $50k is extremely strong.
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September 30, 2021, 06:29:42 PM
#10
Even if there’s no assurance I’m still confident that Bitcoin will make its new ATH in year 2022 and I will remain bullish despite of the current trend of Bitcoin today. There’s a lot of good news coming in, many countries are already recovering from Covid and this might the start of economic growth on many and I believe that could affect Bitcoin market as well so 2022 will be a great year for me.

The upcoming year is full of hope as the world is containing this pandemic. So yes, I believe that we will achieve new ATH in 2022. The sentiments from the poll is about half-half. So there are also people who feel next year will be a bearish season for btc. But I feel otherwise as the adoption is different this year as compared to the previous years. And the adoption will grow more in the next coming months or years.
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September 30, 2021, 06:20:02 PM
#9
Even if there’s no assurance I’m still confident that Bitcoin will make its new ATH in year 2022 and I will remain bullish despite of the current trend of Bitcoin today. There’s a lot of good news coming in, many countries are already recovering from Covid and this might the start of economic growth on many and I believe that could affect Bitcoin market as well so 2022 will be a great year for me.
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September 30, 2021, 05:59:13 PM
#8
Who has any opinions on how the crypto market will behave in 2022?
No one could predict on what the future holds thats why its really hard to make out conclusions but since we do only need to speculate then i had  chose in  the poll that there might be  
some another batch or season of crypto winter.Imagine that we had able to peak out on 60k and now we are playing around 40k which is still higher on its previous ATH
and i wont be surprised if there would be sine another batch of similar situation that happened in the past but basing off with the level of adoption or recognition
then it might less likely to happen but theres always the probability.
Same impressions on my part but i do still hope that we would break out new ATH on this upcoming year end or before 2022 comes.Basing on sentiments or news around then it turns out not to be that not good but at least
we have seen on how far we do able to reach out on a decades time.We have seen lots of ups and downs in regarding into its price.Expect  the unexpected because when you do have sufficient experience on this market then
you are fully aware that things could happen on point which might cause neither positive or negative in the market.
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September 30, 2021, 04:50:31 PM
#7
Who has any opinions on how the crypto market will behave in 2022?
No one could predict on what the future holds thats why its really hard to make out conclusions but since we do only need to speculate then i had  chose in  the poll that there might be 
some another batch or season of crypto winter.Imagine that we had able to peak out on 60k and now we are playing around 40k which is still higher on its previous ATH
and i wont be surprised if there would be sine another batch of similar situation that happened in the past but basing off with the level of adoption or recognition
then it might less likely to happen but theres always the probability.
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September 30, 2021, 04:44:59 PM
#6
Don’t trade based on anything I say, I’m a total moron who got lucky investing early.

If we are to follow previous cycles (which we seem to be atm) then we will top out in December at around $150,000 per coin. We’ll then enter a bear market so to keep it short, I expect 2022 to suck but it might be nice to pick up some cheap coins towards the end of 2022 or 2023.
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September 30, 2021, 03:40:28 PM
#5
Well, I expect new ATH before we'd enter 2022. So I think that you forgot an entry "lambo" or "moon" for your poll  Wink
Still, I don't like that chart. It makes people think that the "distance" (amount) between 10k and 100k is the same as 100 - 1000.
If it's true and the current bull run is different from the old ones, it will be longer and maybe also not so abrupt.

If we look at 2017 bull run and compare, we may even conclude that this bull run is long gone. But no. It looks like the bullish pressure is still there.
Hence 2022 is uncertain. We can reach easily 100-250k (or even 400k, I don't know), but we can also easily head back to 20k. Or both. Hard to tell. The institutional investors make the speculation even more difficult: they have the potential to help us avoid crypto winter (but having the potential doesn't also mean fructifying it).

However, my vote is optimistic: lambo/moon  Wink
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September 30, 2021, 03:02:58 PM
#4
This is one of the questions that most people are curious about the answer of. In my opinion, 2022 will be a productive year for Bitcoin price. Even if we don't see the bull market in this year, I'm expecting to see it in the next year for certain. We are already quite bearish these days and this will fade away in time. At some point, we will definitely see the bull market. In 2022, we should be able to see the price over $100k.
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September 30, 2021, 12:05:37 PM
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Who has any opinions on how the crypto market will behave in 2022?
This question I received directly from several people I know in the real world around June and I really want to answer it based on analysis and comparison of historical price that have happened before in the last 10 years. But I will try to answer it for you too although people may disagree.

I still believe that the 4-year cycle commonly known as the halving plays an important role in the bitcoin price movement so far. The price of bitcoin has experienced a considerable increase and has made a very beautiful climb for 1 year from March 2020 to April 2021 or 1 year based on my analysis and has established ATH at $64K. Comparing it with 2017 then we may find the fact that bitcoin started an upswing phase starting from January 2017 to its peak in December 2017 or 1 year long and after that we are in a downward phase of up to 75% of the $20K price to $2,5K.

There is a correlation between 2017 and 2021 and I think we have peaked in April 2021 and now we are in a downward phase of up to 1 year full of corrections and price fluctuations. At least this is my opinion on your question, and I've already answered it to several people who have asked me directly. Of course not everything I think will be true, obviously we don't know for sure how this bitcoin behaves. And now, I agree with this opinion.

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- This year there will be no more growth and bitcoin will continue to fall for a long time until it drops to the past ATH (at $20 000), after which the price will consolidate and the market will begin the assault on ATH with renewed vigor;
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September 30, 2021, 11:10:07 AM
#2
I'm quite happy the potential of $250k/btc was left off Wink. I think if we got an ath around $100k, we might start seeing more erratic moves again trying to drive us higher.

I'm not sure when the top of this cycle will be in, I don't think we've seen it yet but it might happen by the end of the year (the earliest prediction I saw a few months ago was what is now 3 days ago - I was thinking it'd be anywhere from September 2021 to March 2022 - if real estate and stocks normally diverge then it might be when real estate starts to crash or when they go into an exponential run off phase themselves - real estate).
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September 30, 2021, 10:48:54 AM
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