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Expecting all time highs every year would be unsustainable anyhow. People usually follow trends, we like patterns. We're basically pattern recognising machines, and therefore when we feel good about something, we're likely to be more optimistic, and as the saying goes "when it rains, it pours" we very much adopt a similar thinking when times aren't going so well. I imagine the next poll will be more negative, with a little optimism sprinkled in.

I'm quite happy the potential of $250k/btc was left off . I think if we got an ath around $100k, we might start seeing more erratic moves again trying to drive us higher.

I would say that anyone who has never been part of previous cycles will not be able to predict what the future holds. I get that it is not something that many people could comprehend, and they do not know how it acted before, but this is usual for all the other ones.

I get that it is regular for us, I mean we will have great years, then we will have altseason, then we will crash, then it will be like that for a while and during that crash it will go down a bit, then a bit more than a bit more and so forth, then it will stay like that for a very long term without moving much, sure a 10-20% move but that is nothing in crypto, and then suddenly it will be another skyrocketing increase. It has always been like that and will keep on being like that again in the future.

The thing is that the nature of the markets can change in a fundamental way during that process, maybe you are right and this is something that is going to keep happening, however the circumstances are different now, institutional investors are putting their money in bitcoin as a safe haven and now even countries are investing in bitcoin, the adoption is higher and the economy is in a bad shape, so even if the price crashed I do not think it will remain there for long as the buying pressure that we are experimenting is too high for that to happen.

I would say that anyone who has never been part of previous cycles will not be able to predict what the future holds. I get that it is not something that many people could comprehend, and they do not know how it acted before, but this is usual for all the other ones.

I get that it is regular for us, I mean we will have great years, then we will have altseason, then we will crash, then it will be like that for a while and during that crash it will go down a bit, then a bit more than a bit more and so forth, then it will stay like that for a very long term without moving much, sure a 10-20% move but that is nothing in crypto, and then suddenly it will be another skyrocketing increase. It has always been like that and will keep on being like that again in the future.

I find the market to be functional on a cyclic process. Once after the previous bull market there is much expectations on the price to increase continuously. Once there is no big movement with bitcoin, everyone's eye turned towards altcoins. Further discussion started as it is the year of altcoins, particularly ethereum. That created some expectation for some time period. After a long this year we've experienced the real bull trend.

Over the past few years we've been part of the volatile market that is good for the traders. This year has brought in the profit for all the long term holders. Almost similar pattern as the previous bull market have happened, only the price difference is big this time. So, I expect some form of bearish move by the falling year.

We wont really remove on someones mind on what happened back in the past which you couldnt really blame off on people to think up this way so its better to take yourself that risk management thing.

Expect the unexpected because this market is always been unpredictable in the first place.Things that happened before might happen to this present or into the future which means
that you do take out actions basing on your experience.

Anticipate for things to happen because not all would really be that precise to happen thats why we do keep on speculating.

It is interesting to see how many people think a crypto winter like the one we saw on 2018 will make its appearance, I think there are several factors that go against it, but one of the most prominent is the state of the economy itself, back then a great deal of the increase in the price of bitcoin came from pure speculation, however a not so small portion of the current growth can be attributed to investors looking for a store of value, and as long as the economy is in a bad shape this should remain true for 2022, so I expect investors to keep coming to the market as the economy fails to recover according to the goals set by the politicians and their economists.

it's everyone assumptions, besides many people said that bitcoin this year will be more reproductive than any other year's, I'm not curious about bitcoin propagation even though it will take it time to propagate, i always be comfortable about it regulations in price, now we might expect bitcoin to get higher by next year come 2022, but from me it's not sure and constant that the price of bitcoin will respond positively, because it can be possible that the price will not get ride to our expectation, I'm not disputing the fact that bitcoin will not reach at least one hundred thousand (100k) by next year, but it's under assumption like we did this year.

I think 2021-2022 will create new milestones for cryptocurrency. If we think of the bottom position, we see that Bitcoin is in the range of 30-45k, so it seems normal to move upwards, not downwards. And Bitcoin will always do this because the number of investors is constantly increasing. So the chances of backlash are very low.

This is one of the questions that most people are curious about the answer of. In my opinion, 2022 will be a productive year for Bitcoin price. Even if we don't see the bull market in this year, I'm expecting to see it in the next year for certain. We are already quite bearish these days and this will fade away in time. At some point, we will definitely see the bull market. In 2022, we should be able to see the price over $100k.

Since September 2020, Bitcoin has been in a stable bullish phase, and during this time it has conquered many price peaks, currently stopping at ~$64 000 per 1 BTC. An incredible climb. This was followed by a protracted correction and a good recovery in the price of bitcoin. But it didn't go beyond this recovery at ~$53 000, as China again launched another FUD in the crypto space.


But what will happen next for the crypto market? Judging by the sentiment of investors, I have identified several popular opinions on how the price of bitcoin will behave in the future:

- Bitcoin price will reach a new ATH by the end of the year, at ~$ 84 000 - $100 000;

- There will be a repeat of 2017: the price will reach a new ATH (not much higher than the current ATH) and after that a long crypto winter will begin;

- This year there will be no more growth and bitcoin will continue to fall for a long time until it drops to the past ATH (at $20 000), after which the price will consolidate and the market will begin the assault on ATH with renewed vigor;

- Now there will be a slight correction, then the market will recover and in 2022 there will be a new ATH.

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There are also different opinions regarding Bitcoin cycles. Over the past 10 years, the market has been strictly divided into phases: Recovery - Accumulation - Growth - Decline.


And if we compare with the full-fledged market cycles that lasted from 2014 to 2017 and from 2018 to 2021, then we are now in the final phase, the Growth phase, which lasted the whole year and now, it seems, how the Fall phase should come. There is logic in this, because the market is constantly growing and sooner or later the era of sales must come in order to fix profits. From an investment point of view, now everything is expensive and it would be nice for large investors to create the conditions that were, say, in the winter of 2019, when all crypto assets were at the bottom and cost as cheap as possible. If we focus on these cycles, then the next major bull run awaits us in 2024-2025, but for now all this time there will be sales and regular accumulations of cheap coins by whales.

So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.

And if we compare with the full-fledged market cycles that lasted from 2013 to 2017 and from 2017 to 2021, then we are now in the final phase, the growth phase, which lasted the whole year and now, it seems, how the Fall phase should come. There is logic in this, because the market is constantly growing and sooner or later the era of sales must come in order to fix profits. From an investment point of view, now everything is expensive and it would be nice for large investors to create the conditions that were, say, in the winter of 2019, when all crypto assets were at the bottom and cost as cheap as possible. If we focus on these cycles, then the next major bull run awaits us in 2024-2025, but for now all this time there will be sales and regular accumulations of cheap coins by whales.

So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.

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Who has any opinions on how the crypto market will behave in 2022?

Bullish sentiment, that's what people are feeling now.

The last quarter of the year IMO is very crucial, it will dictate the possible situation next year, so as I am bullish, I like to see a bullish year-end close for bitcoin and another ATH which could be around $70k to $80k. By next year, if the market will not experience a heavy correction, I'm expecting that $100k will be easily achieved and when that price is reached, I don't know what next as I don't see any ceiling anymore especially when the hype getting bigger and bigger.

What I suggest being careful about is the drops like we had recently, from 67k to 60k is still a drop, yes it is not a huge crash, we didn't fall to 30k but it was still a fall. I believe that the future will be exactly like that, we will go up a lot, and then a small fall and then another big up, keep repeating that for a long time.

Since September 2020, Bitcoin has been in a stable bullish phase, and during this time it has conquered many price peaks, currently stopping at ~$64 000 per 1 BTC. An incredible climb. This was followed by a protracted correction and a good recovery in the price of bitcoin. But it didn't go beyond this recovery at ~$53 000, as China again launched another FUD in the crypto space.


But what will happen next for the crypto market? Judging by the sentiment of investors, I have identified several popular opinions on how the price of bitcoin will behave in the future:

- Bitcoin price will reach a new ATH by the end of the year, at ~$ 84 000 - $100 000;

- There will be a repeat of 2017: the price will reach a new ATH (not much higher than the current ATH) and after that a long crypto winter will begin;

- This year there will be no more growth and bitcoin will continue to fall for a long time until it drops to the past ATH (at $20 000), after which the price will consolidate and the market will begin the assault on ATH with renewed vigor;

- Now there will be a slight correction, then the market will recover and in 2022 there will be a new ATH.

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There are also different opinions regarding Bitcoin cycles. Over the past 10 years, the market has been strictly divided into phases: Recovery - Accumulation - Growth - Decline.


And if we compare with the full-fledged market cycles that lasted from 2014 to 2017 and from 2018 to 2021, then we are now in the final phase, the Growth phase, which lasted the whole year and now, it seems, how the Fall phase should come. There is logic in this, because the market is constantly growing and sooner or later the era of sales must come in order to fix profits. From an investment point of view, now everything is expensive and it would be nice for large investors to create the conditions that were, say, in the winter of 2019, when all crypto assets were at the bottom and cost as cheap as possible. If we focus on these cycles, then the next major bull run awaits us in 2024-2025, but for now all this time there will be sales and regular accumulations of cheap coins by whales.

So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.

And if we compare with the full-fledged market cycles that lasted from 2013 to 2017 and from 2017 to 2021, then we are now in the final phase, the growth phase, which lasted the whole year and now, it seems, how the Fall phase should come. There is logic in this, because the market is constantly growing and sooner or later the era of sales must come in order to fix profits. From an investment point of view, now everything is expensive and it would be nice for large investors to create the conditions that were, say, in the winter of 2019, when all crypto assets were at the bottom and cost as cheap as possible. If we focus on these cycles, then the next major bull run awaits us in 2024-2025, but for now all this time there will be sales and regular accumulations of cheap coins by whales.

So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.

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Who has any opinions on how the crypto market will behave in 2022?

In any case, we see years after since 2014, Mt.gox appears to be here again to cause another dump on the market. Rehabilitation for the creditors will be finalized on November 20. Those creditors will receive 137,890 coins.

@gabbie2010. You should begin to be cautious on 2022. You created your bitcointalk account on 2017, you should be familiar with the feeling of 2018 hehehe.

In any case, we see years after since 2014, Mt.gox appears to be here again to cause another dump on the market. Rehabilitation for the creditors will be finalized on November 20. Those creditors will receive 137,890 coins.



Source https://mobile.twitter.com/cryptoquant_com/status/1451169004689584130?s=12

I think that 2022 will be one of the greatest years for Bitcoin on the condition that we don't see any bull run before the end of this year. Because if we see it in this year, then there will be not much left for 2022 actually. Because the bull market will end at some point and a new bear market will greet us for a long time I believe. So, 2022 could be a boring year then.

In history, Bitcoin was immature as far as its retail community is considered to be those making markets and then crashing it, then whether we talk about 2013 or 2017, it's every 4 years btc shows some big moves. While it is 2021, btc has not yet started to show any big gains compared to the last 2 quad years in regards to percentage which opens more room for btc to move upwards. We are still waiting for an ETF to be approved by SEC and if it happens, we cannot imagine where will btc stop and I think history will not repeat itself through a market crash in the later period, but this run will continue to grow.

I may have gotten the wrong impression reading posts on this forum, but except for a small percentage of older members, most others are constantly living in doubt and panic and you can easily sell them any story, especially the one about the approaching crypto winter. Maybe these are the ones you mention, because in some parts of the world Bitcoin is promoted as magic internet money, which leads to a lot of people expecting magical earnings in a market that is extremely volatile.

We are probably at the start of the last quarter bull run right now. This could be the largest one that will finally bring Bitcoin's price to $100,000 at least. S2F prediction, which has been pretty much accurate more or less for the past months and years, has Bitcoin at $135,000 this coming December. If this happens, or even at $100,000, I am expecting a correction in the first months of 2022. But if the price fails to touch $100,000, then it is expected that it will come by January. The rest of the first quarter is bound to be correction time.

What is going to happen in 2022 will be highly dependent on where are are going to end 2021. The probable endings of 2021 for bitcoin market are $120k or $190k or $380k. These are based on 10x growth (and repeating of history) in 4 year cycle. (If you consider 10k was the right growth in 2017 then $100k will be the ATH in 2021 because some speculators argue 10k to 19k in December 2017 was a bubble and need to ignore such numbers).

- Bitcoin price will reach a new ATH by the end of the year, at ~$ 84 000 - $100 000;

- This year there will be no more growth and bitcoin will continue to fall for a long time until it drops to the past ATH (at $20 000), after which the price will consolidate and the market will begin the assault on ATH with renewed vigor;

- Now there will be a slight correction, then the market will recover and in 2022 there will be a new ATH.

The odds are at a good place right now, 60+ to 30+ is a good odd to be honest, I wouldn't want to be in a circle jerk situation where 90%+ says we are going to be in a bull run, that is not really cool to be in because you are not going to get true outcomes and beliefs in that situation, it is going to be just bunch of people who think the same all got together, which makes no sense to me.

I believe we are doing fine right now, and we are going to see new ATH next year, but I am also saying kudos to everyone who believes it will be crypto winter as well, and enjoyed every post that says so. I personally care about every angle and not just with people I agree with.

Agreed. Anyone who larps that there will be a continued bull market for 2022 might be people who are in denial of the reality of market cycles. Also, they might not have considered how much leverage was used to pump bitcoin to its present level. A deleveraging event will always occur when the bubble pops.

I also predict the government to regulate and give powers to stablecoin issuers to manipulate how much liquidity enters the cryptospace and through them the control on who is allowed to access the cryptospace.

I may have gotten the wrong impression reading posts on this forum, but except for a small percentage of older members, most others are constantly living in doubt and panic and you can easily sell them any story, especially the one about the approaching crypto winter. Maybe these are the ones you mention, because in some parts of the world Bitcoin is promoted as magic internet money, which leads to a lot of people expecting magical earnings in a market that is extremely volatile.

in my opinion, the biggest indicator that there is a significant chance that Bitcoin can continue positively in 2022 lies in the fact that this time the market is strongly influenced by the factor of institutional involvement. I think that factor gives much more credibility to Bitcoin than it has been in the past, and all the good that has been happening in recent months still outweighs all the bad news, or maybe it's better to say all the news that the media wants to portray as extremely bad.

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We are probably at the start of the last quarter bull run right now. This could be the largest one that will finally bring Bitcoin's price to $100,000 at least. S2F prediction, which has been pretty much accurate more or less for the past months and years, has Bitcoin at $135,000 this coming December. If this happens, or even at $100,000, I am expecting a correction in the first months of 2022. But if the price fails to touch $100,000, then it is expected that it will come by January. The rest of the first quarter is bound to be correction time.

As we have already commented in some other threads, people obviously only care about what happened a month or two ago, and they are not too interested in anything older than that. This coincides with short-term profits, so we have more dissatisfied (impatient) who ask "when $100k?", than those who are happy because the price increase is as much as 1800% in a very short period, especially if we take the effects of the pandemic to all other investments.

If the bull run really did start right now, wouldn't the 1st quarter be the part where the correction happens? But even so it's going to be a treacherous journey for everyone especially for hodlers that have a specific number in mind including me which might frustrate and disappoint us.

If we started the bull run right now then we might see a big correction next year because we know this market, can’t sustain a whole year of bull run.

The 1st to 2nd quarter of 2022 will be good for sure but the last two quarter might be the correction phase and that is another chance to get in and increase your holdings. I’m confident as well that Bitcoin can enter into another bull run.

So far, these cycles are working and their formation has never been broken in the entire history of bitcoin. Someone thinks this is a coincidence, but I am not one of them. I believe in bitcoin, but I do not believe in "endless" growth that can last for several years. But there is an opinion that the market is transforming and these cycles could change globally. Well, anything is possible in the crypto world, and let's see how 2022 proves itself. Personally, I think that a red candle is more likely to be expected than a green one, but I would be glad to be wrong.

I don't know what more bullish sign you want from bitcoin other than 1800% rise!!!

I expect the pandemic to finally come to an end and the global economy starting to recover very fast in 2022. This might seem like a pretty bullish sign for Bitcoin,

I believe that in 2022 Bitcoin would still be the same as what we had this year yet during in winter if bearish would successfully took the market then we'll completely going straight in a bearish season. It seems to me that people are learning their lessons in the past to not just dump when China pull their ban-fud card.

I don't have that much expectation, bitcoin tends to break expectations so I don't expect too much or too big from bitcoin, for me it's the prices and more people and institutions including countries continue to adopt bitcoin.

I expect that 1BTC will be equal 1BTC

Even if there’s no assurance I’m still confident that Bitcoin will make its new ATH in year 2022 and I will remain bullish despite of the current trend of Bitcoin today. There’s a lot of good news coming in, many countries are already recovering from Covid and this might the start of economic growth on many and I believe that could affect Bitcoin market as well so 2022 will be a great year for me.

No one could predict on what the future holds thats why its really hard to make out conclusions but since we do only need to speculate then i had  chose in  the poll that there might be  
some another batch or season of crypto winter.Imagine that we had able to peak out on 60k and now we are playing around 40k which is still higher on its previous ATH
and i wont be surprised if there would be sine another batch of similar situation that happened in the past but basing off with the level of adoption or recognition
then it might less likely to happen but theres always the probability.