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In general, a possible common mistake in reasoning on such topics is the correlation of the number of registrations with the growth of bitcoin. Perhaps these words will seem strange, but people come to this forum more often not because of the growth of bitcoin, but because of the alt season. It is the altcoin section that is the most popular and most densely populated among beginners.

Therefore, bitcoin has little to do with the growth in the number of users, both in 2018 and 2021. The catalysts for the growth of activity, posting and registration are bounties and altcoins. These sections are the largest and most active. And when another hype of altcoins occurs on the market, the activity on the forum increases.

Yes, you are right there it takes time for the moderator to clean the shit post here in the forum cause every day many users still do this kind of habit and I admit also that I am part of them, not a shit poster but I am human and doing some mistake.
And I think the main reason why is this happening is that the user who aim that they are going to rank up faster and we all know that From Newbies to Member rank is easy to achieve cause many threads can help them to gain merits. And this opportunity gets abused by alts accounts without knowing that they are shitposters. and I think they do not care about their post how quality or junk it is all they want is to rank up easily to participate in signature campaigns and earn some BTC.

I really believe that it is a very bad situation for the forum and at the same time it also increases the work of many users to report thousands of posts, find cheaters every month and maybe also increase the working time of moderators to clean them. I admit that I've also been a part of spammers in the past, but that was only before I got the inspiration to change that behavior for the better and reach Legendary.

Maybe the situation is the same as long as bitcoin ATH 2021 is happening to now, many users registered their accounts and some old accounts were reactivated and may have increased the number of worthless posts to the forum. Based on the monthly updates to the report stats, I believe moderators and contributors are still spending quite a bit of time cleaning up the forum.

You better believe it--I remember 2016-17 when bitcoin was exploding people's brains all over the world.  The forum had an influx of new accounts, alt accounts, you name it, and they were all trying to get into signature campaigns regardless of whether they met the qualifications or not. 

It was a crazy time (don't know if you were around back then), and all of those new accounts led to a lot of very low-value posts.  That was the bad part.  A lot of people weren't interested in discussion so much as plopping down as many shitposts as they could during their waking hours.

I make a mistake, sorry.

I have also know this to be true that when the price of bitcoin is increasing, people registering on this forum will increase during the period.

It's either you quoted the wrong person by tagging me or you simply missed the part I've bolded and underlined now in your quote. It was the other user who said they were disappointed with the 2021 data. I said I wasn't. Again, I (we) didn't consider 2020 because it wasn't a post Bitcoin halving year which always had lead to a bull year for Bitcoin. People hardly flock to this forum during bear season. 2021 was a post halving year for Bitcoin. If you had been here in 2017 till date you would've understood this better. Don't worry, another experience of a post halving year will come upon us in 2025.

Why are you disappointed with 2021? What about 2020. A total of 474226 users were registered in 2021, this is still good, the number is more than double of 2020.

@Ratimov gave a nice perspective to what happened in 2018, and he's correct. A lot of the new accounts in 2018 rushed in from the bull carryover of 2018 but once they observed they weren't ranking up naturally as it used to be before merit era, I guess a lot of them left or got nuked for forum abuse. Speaking of the alleged disappointing data for 2021 (I wasn't disappointed, anyway), one could see that the obvious reason was the Merit system which has tremendously helped in curbing account farming to an extent. If it weren't for merit, a whole lot of supposed newcomers would've graced this forum to start shitposting to rank up. I believe that's the hiccup in 2021 data despite the fact Bitcoin gained more traction than it did in 2017/2018.

From your chart, I noticed the huge registration should be said to be in 2018 as it was in the upward direction, this will be because of what you said, the hype of altcoins is one of the reasons but not the only reason.

If merit has not be introduced on this forum by then, this will be the third reason there was huge registration because even for both signature campaign and bounties, many people will farm accounts, just a single person can have up to 5 to 10 accounts. But now the merit that has been introduced in 2018 is another contributing factor to the declining of people that are registering as a result of reduction of ghost users.

Interesting! I thought last year would be the most registered while it turns out 2018 was flooded with many new accounts. 2021 isn't even close to 2018 one. What was the reason for having such a huge amount of registration in 2018? The big bull started at the beginning of January? But that was ended in January and there was a long bearish season. This is quite interesting.

Is it right? You really dedicate quite a lot of your time to collect all this data. This is not an easy job, of course. I really want to know how much time did you spend for this? Lol

So far I haven't found a reason why the forum stats haven't been updated since 2017. Does this have something to do with the future of this forum where I'm currently hearing quite a bit about new forum in the future?

That (Sirius) would be Martti Malmi, a Finnish person who sold the first known bitcoin (~10,000) for $10 USD in October 2009 to NewLibertyStandard. Sirius helped Satoshi set up the forum and did a lot of the early debugging and advertising.

Many of those early accounts have logins after a forum leak in 2014 where the hash table of the passwords was released online.

The value surged. There is always an uptick of interest in this forum whenever the value reaches an ATH.

Ratimov, can you tell me where you collect all the statistics on the number of user registrations per year? I only found data recorded up to 2017 on the forum stats page whereas from 2018 to 2022 it is not available. Anyway, this is a good thread from you.

Based on the data on the graph, the number of users who registered account on bincointalk during 2021 is quite high. This is almost the same as when the bitcoin price hit ATH in 2017 where we also saw the number of account registrations increase. I think we'll have another year (2022) to see a much larger number of account signups if ATH is really the reason for this increase.

We are the same observation before Reading the comments I read the thread and open the profile links of the first registered users from 2009-2022 and I saw that only one has been ranking up Member rank and only minergr created in January 2014 was ahead of them. What I think is that It is a coincidence? or only 1 person will do this every first minute of the year?


There's a possibility that "Satoshi" and "Admin" are one cause we all know that Satoshi is the founder but there's an account registered before Satoshi.
When a person created a site or let's say forum and for sure that the founder created the first account of his/her sites/forum.

If you look at that graph, you'll notice that it corresponds to the bull market. After Bitcoin's halving in March 2020, bitcoin breaks the previous all-time high, and I expect from that time until the end of 2021, they contributed to a greater number of registered users.
Other factors that may contribute to increasing in user base include:

• Spammers: I get a lot of notifications when they post, and the accounts eventually go inactive after multiple warnings and ban from admins.
• Scammers: Obviously, the goal was to defraud both projects and individuals.
• Alternative bounties accounts: Last year, there were a lot of altcoin projects.
• Accounts to discuss Bitcoin.

If you look at the graph for 2021, you'll notice that the number decreases as the hype sinks, and the number of users decreases as well.

That claim could be true to have come up with the admin user and perhaps in a few days, came up with a different idea on how to run the forum and created his or her definitive user. Little wonder how the forum is being run by Admin and Mods today.

Looking at the provided link, I noted yet another user Sirius with a trust record from Theymos himself and he is regarded as a Co-creator meaning, Satoshi Nakamoto was very much not alone. This tells how his or her anonymous nature has been perfectly concede from the rest of the world.

I believe the first user was “admin” - presumably Satoshi ?
Here’s a thread to help
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/who-is-this-early-joiners-in-bitcointalk-5184413

EDIT Ratimov beat me to it 

Good insight @Ratimov, especially with the fact that, your statistics ran across all years from forum inception. Though, its hard to say if we are really growing based on the increased numbers of registered users, as a lot of them might be inactiveor dormant. Some years that seems significant as per the count on registeredusers might account for the activities of bots and spammers as you foretold. Looking at the fact that, bitcointalk doesn't automatically delete inactive accounts, it would be hard to say the growth counts for something. Apparently, a dormant or inactive account is of no use for the forum looking at the fact that, the forum is a discussion platform and dormant aactive accounts don't contribute any ideas.

One funny observation, all the first account registered in each year including the most recent of 2022 are inactive. There last time active pushes far back in time and all except for the Minergr  who managed it up to the member rank, the rest are either Brand-new or Newbies.
Another observation or should I say question; How is the founder Satoshi Nakamoto not the first registered user, dating back to 2009?
Again, non of the first users post still exists on the forum!

If possible, a statistics on active users can add some colour to the thread. Either way, it's a plus for us all.

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