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legendary
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November 29, 2023, 03:38:47 AM
#29
OP, fyi, I edited my trust, as I said I would. I must say, I'm not exactly thrilled that you jump to the rant station, mention names, and then delete everything before I have a chance to respond.

I'm sorry you're disappointed, but I'm not sure what you really expected to happen here.  As you could have noticed, only a few members were actually interested in this discussion and spent time reading through your walls of text. If nothing else, you should respect that.

From the very beginning, everyone advised you on what steps to take,  and that we can't just accept your word without valid evidence. Using accounts on other platforms can't be considered sufficient proof, and, as you mentioned yourself, those accounts can change names or be hacked and what not. In this community, the only acceptable proofs are either posting with your old account or signing a previously used wallet address. I'm sure you'd appreciate that if the situation were reversed, someone falsely claiming of being your alt account.

But you were persistent and ignored all the advice which ultimately led to your current frustration. Now that you've reactivated your old account, you'll see that none of the negative predictions will come to pass, no one will tag your account for no reason, which will prove you were wrong.
legendary
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November 29, 2023, 03:34:16 AM
#28
Edit: I just got pissed off, recovered 98789 and will be putting it to rest (I will change its email to not be associated to it and I will remove as many posts as I can). I guess this unequivocally proves that I was not lying, but I do not care anymore. This will be my last time in this forum. Feel free to remove the neutral feedback if you want, or tag it in red if you prefer. Thank you for the last time to the (few) ones that did provide ideas.
Nice. you should have done that before opening this useless discussion.
Lol. User 98789 is a Newbie again. OP forgot to remove the avatar.
What's with the dramatic responses when someone asks to prove what you say?
legendary
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November 29, 2023, 02:45:50 AM
#27
Op has also deleted all posts they've ever made with this "new" uid, so no need to review the distrust I have in them.
legendary
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November 28, 2023, 07:52:59 PM
#26
Edit: I just got pissed off, recovered 98789 and will be putting it to rest (I will change its email to not be associated to it and I will remove as many posts as I can). I guess this unequivocally proves that I was not lying, but I do not care anymore. This will be my last time in this forum. Feel free to remove the neutral feedback if you want, or tag it in red if you prefer. Thank you for the last time to the (few) ones that did provide ideas.

Nice. you should have done that before opening this useless discussion. If you are afraid that you have left some personal information or anything compromising, I advise you to go through your post history and private messages now (you have access to the account) and delete everything that you think could be risky.
Now lock this topic, it has fulfilled its purpose.
legendary
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November 28, 2023, 10:51:59 AM
#25
I have seen some people spend time finding alts and then making drama about it, for that I wanted to avoid being involved in such a situation in the future. I would rather have the drama right now, at the beginning of tg9's life, than in a couple of months and maybe having to deal with someone claiming that I am a scammer just because of an alt (if someone said "tg9 is an alt of 98789" I would have no issues acknowledging so, which is what I proactively tried to do here).
If you dont share merit/trust between your accounts and if you don't join the same signature campaign/bounty campaign you will be fine even if someone finds you having alts.


The alternative would be posting multiple answers one after the other, but that would make this thread grow unnecessarily.
Fyi you can answer multiple members in the same post, no need to make consecutive posts for each answer (that is also against forum rules).

legendary
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November 28, 2023, 05:11:03 AM
#24
rambling navel gazing

Incorrect.

I am DT 1.

If you want to bury your head in the sand, then that is your failing.

Do more research.
legendary
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November 27, 2023, 04:49:57 PM
#23
I was thinking you could tag my old account referencing this? I would prefer/thank you if the tag is neutral, as I never scammed anyone and I would not want to see my old account in red as scammers are tagged.
I am not tagging anyone for anything without seeing some proof, and I don't really care who the member is.

All the reasons you mentioned sounds like bs to me.
Merit is not that important, even less important is what other people think about your account activity, unless you purchased an account.
You could easily change email address for original account, for this you would literally spend only few minutes.
hero member
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November 27, 2023, 12:42:34 PM
#22
Everything is somehow confusing. Was your account hacked or sold?
The long and somewhat distracting story is also confusing to me but I think he's indirectly claiming he owns the account to the forum moderators and other members. It is only possible to verify your bitcoin address account by signing your bitcoin address account, which you are not able to provide anymore, and the forum moderator is extremely strict about it.
legendary
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November 27, 2023, 12:31:29 PM
#21
I am open to ideas if anyone has any (if resetting 98789's password is the way to go, I would at least like to read some sort of consensus that that won't cause additional "shadiness" to this process). Thank you to anyone commenting, especially the ones who are actually contributing (giving ideas and at least reading/paying attention to what I write).
You are overthinking all this.

Regarding the concensus you basically already have it as many members told you that nothing will happen if you wake up your old account, unless you start doing some dodgy stuff mentioned before. The more you continue this drama, the more people might get suspicious.

hero member
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November 27, 2023, 08:22:26 AM
#20
I am open to ideas if anyone has any (if resetting 98789's password is the way to go, I would at least like to read some sort of consensus that that won't cause additional "shadiness" to this process).
Actually it doesn't matter, if I were you then that would be the first thing I'd do without opening a new account and starting a topic as if everyone cares about me. After all you still have access to your old coinbase wallet, even if you can't prove ownership with that address, people won't question it if you reuse that address for your business on this forum.
legendary
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November 27, 2023, 02:51:41 AM
#19
Of course I could reset it because I have my old email (the one I said is almost full, because I have used it for years), but that is what I say would be shady.

After a long period of inactivity, that would actually be normal. This is shady.

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I doubt I would be allowed to stake a new BTC address under those conditions, people will (for good reason) assume I am a hacker and instantly give me negative feedback.


That's not true. You would only receive negative feedback (maybe) if you applied for a loan or started some drama (like you're doing now).

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Thank you to anyone commenting, especially the ones who are actually contributing (giving ideas and at least reading/paying attention to what I write).

You're welcome. I get why you felt the need to say all that, but really it was just causing more drama than it was worth.  Your walls of text aren't really helping, either. At the end of the day, you had a simple fix available from the start - just log into your original profile and tag yourself if having that connection matters to you.  Or you could've gone a totally fresh route with a brand new profile, no mention of the old one.  But it seems like you were set on making some kind of weird power play to prove...  and well I don't even know what really.  And now you're acting all shocked that people arent just taking your word for it? I mean c'mon, we see people pulling stunts here all the time.
hero member
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November 27, 2023, 02:22:10 AM
#18
I call this bullshit! Why does it matter if the account shows 'recently woken up' if you do not plan on using it anymore? And even if you do continue using it, that alone doesnt impact your reputation. Anyone can see from the post history that the account has been inactive for a long time. The same applies to changing the password. Also, why does waking up an account involve changing its password? Thats bullshit reasoning that has nothing to do with logic.
Exactly this; I also don't understand the OP's concerns. You're supposedly concerned about an old account that you're not going to use and want it to be tagged, without having provided the necessary proof that the account is under your ownership yet. Why is it such a big issue to have your account tagged as recently woken up? You can prove it's still in your possession by signing a message from one of the BTC addresses you've used in the past. I've been inactive twice and wasn't bothered by the wake-up tag. I had nothing to worry about and still have access to the address I used back in my first years of registration.

Since you're mentioning that you have access to those addresses, just go ahead and try recovering your account; resetting your password shouldn't worry you too much, although I understand that you wouldn't want a wake-up tag along with a reset password. I also acknowledge your concern with merit acquisition, but I'd consider yourself lucky that you're getting a 250 merit head start bonus and starting out as a Sr. Member rank. There are also two campaigns, which I'm not going to name, that are likely to accept you if you're interested in them, which will help you slowly build your account back. You won't be able to do that as a newbie. I've been in your place, and I was also an Sr. Member when I quit the forum. I started practically from scratch, having only acquired 2 merits when the system was introduced, and now I've managed to rank up to Hero Member with no particular issues and faster than I was expecting when I first started.

Prove ownership of the account through signed messages or whichever method works best, and keep using the account. If you're able to provide everything necessary, no one will ever accuse you of alt accounting, and even if someone does, the claims will be quickly dropped as you would have already proven yourself.
hero member
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November 27, 2023, 01:57:44 AM
#17
This will be hard and I understand with your concern.

If you're only receive coins using your old address, this will not be a problem. But if you're participating a signature campaign, this will be a problem since they mostly ask native segwit address.

I think if you can tweet anything from your X account (tregaus4) and chat using your cryptogames account, this will give a good proof.

It is me again Grin! I feel happy because I almost bust my balance but finally did not; I decided to withdraw before I do something stupid. In the meanwhile, I will play with smaller deposits and this kind of bonuses Tongue.

Username: 98789.

Thanks!


However I wouldn't tag the 98789's account because it has been inactive for 7 years, it's their risk if someone want to make a trade with an account with long time break.
legendary
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November 27, 2023, 12:42:41 AM
#16
You should read up on the trust system in use here (such as it is), then weigh up if you kind of want to trust other people's post-it notes on your trust feedback page or kind of not trust those trust feedbacks.
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November 26, 2023, 06:22:52 PM
#15
The OP never made any attempt to contact me as the OP of the known alts thread (or anyone else for that matter) for guidance or assistance prior to starting this thread.

I've made a note (neutral) on both trust feedback pages and have Tildaed both users as this thread is just unfolding (for the OP at least) all wrong.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 05:01:40 PM
#14
Unfortunately you are eager to start a drama that you shouldn't be involved in. You don't have any problem tagging your alt account with your main account - but I really get major confusion about what your motives are behind all this. Regardless of what's behind it - I think you really need to prove your claims about the account is yours as other users have advice, so don't hesitate to do so.

If you are the primary owner of the @98789 account - then you should be able to defend yourself with that account even though some people may question your recent activity. However, many people don't care about this until some suspect you have been hacked or change hands if there is a significant difference in quality. There are lots of other users doing it - reset password via email, change email when you wake up, but it's fine if you can prove you're the primary owner in case someone starts to get suspicious.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 03:31:11 PM
#13
To the people suggesting waking it up: people here frown upon "password has been changed recently" (and I think there is also a message that shows when an old account suddenly becomes active, I saw it under the user commenting in the second post of this thread and under Vod, for instance)
That's simply not true. If you don't do anything dodgy after waking up from a long break and and immediately changing email/password (for example asking non-collateral loan, writing in languages you never used before etc) then people might think that there is something dodgy going on, but other than that your account will be just fine with that "password/email has been changed recently" message.



but more important, if I log in to set a message it could be hacked in the future and since I cannot sign messages because all the addresses I used are from Coinbase, I would be screwed and not able to recover it.
If you are afraid of that, you could simply log in to the old account, stake new bitcoin address so you are sure in case hack happens and then continue with the new one.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 02:19:20 PM
#12
I think many of the questions asked are answered in the OP. I never mentioned being hacked and I would not sell my account (if I wanted to do so, I would not be asking you to tag it). To the people suggesting waking it up: people here frown upon "password has been changed recently" (and I think there is also a message that shows when an old account suddenly becomes active, I saw it under the user commenting in the second post of this thread and under Vod, for instance), but more important, if I log in to set a message it could be hacked in the future and since I cannot sign messages because all the addresses I used are from Coinbase, I would be screwed and not able to recover it.

I call this bullshit! Why does it matter if the account shows 'recently woken up' if you do not plan on using it anymore? And even if you do continue using it, that alone doesnt impact your reputation. Anyone can see from the post history that the account has been inactive for a long time. The same applies to changing the password. Also, why does waking up an account involve changing its password? Thats bullshit reasoning that has nothing to do with logic.


Ultimately, this thread will stay here so if I reuse any of the addresses or accounts from 98789 (who is me), no one will call me a scammer or a shady user.

This is still unproven.

As I said, I could have simply avoided re-using anything (which would not be hard) and stay in the shadows, and from some responses I think that would have been the "best".

This is exactly the reason why this request of yours does not really make sense. What do you want DT members to tag your old account for, while also saying that reviving that account would be frowned upon by the community?
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November 26, 2023, 12:36:07 PM
#11
@tg9 Nice story, but without proving that you are the owner of the account, we cannot do anything. Can you prove ownership by showing any information that only those who can access that account know, for example, details of PM messages or a trusted person on the forum that you communicated with, or any Bitcoin address that you can sign a message from, or anything?

I think the whole story of op is that he doesn't have access to his coinbase account where he used the wallet to stake his address here. Then again op is trying to make things too complex for him and if he still have access to account why not he continued using it than stirring cases which I think that is not necessary.
I tried checking through ninjastic.space noticed the said account has many interaction with multiple wallet. Alternatively he can another wallet he has access to then maybe during his active days.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 12:12:15 PM
#10
Well @tg9, if you really expect any of us to fully buy into the idea that this old account is actually yours, you're gonna need to cough up some solid proof first.  So simply telling us it's your account doesn't cut it and  you could say anything you want - that alone doesnt make it true.  Instead, how about logging into that old account and showing us you can still use it? That'd probably convince me! Or maybe sign a message using a Bitcoin address tied to the account? Or really, any sort of hard evidence that irrefutably links you to owning that old account would work.

Bottom line is we just can't take your word for it.  Not without some kind of verification to back up your claims.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 11:12:16 AM
#9
I don't know if this is the Coinbase address he meant
Yep, that's the same address he said it was from Coinbase as its the only one that he mentioned in that "Stake your Bitcoin Address" thread.

No one to quote.

Here is mine, the one I have used through this forum:

1PUXDiGXQygTs32iB9YwfnUadQhpuWGnq9


With that beind said, he used some other addresses that he could use if he wants.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 11:06:16 AM
#8
@tg9 Nice story, but without proving that you are the owner of the account, we cannot do anything. Can you prove ownership by showing any information that only those who can access that account know, for example, details of PM messages or a trusted person on the forum that you communicated with, or any Bitcoin address that you can sign a message from, or anything?

Everything is somehow confusing. Was your account hacked or sold?
It appears that he lost access to his account and is now trying to prove that he has an old account or help restore that account.
You have to prove that you used to be the owner of that account. Sign one of the old Bitcoin addresses used by the 98789 account. For example, 1PUXDiGXQygTs32iB9YwfnUadQhpuWGnq9 which is used here

I don't know if this is the Coinbase address he meant

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When I was 98789 I staked one of my bitcoin addresses, but unfortunately it was a Coinbase address. To the best of my knowledge, they removed the ability to sign messages years ago, so while I know that that is the gold standard to prove you are who you claim to be, I won't be able to provide a signed message for that reason. I see no reason why I would claim some really old account
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 07:58:56 AM
#7
You have to prove that you used to be the owner of that account. Sign one of the old Bitcoin addresses used by the 98789 account. For example, 1PUXDiGXQygTs32iB9YwfnUadQhpuWGnq9 which is used here
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November 26, 2023, 07:37:01 AM
#6
Actually, no it isn't.

The known alts thread is for reporting alts that have been uncovered.

Where the scammers try to counter with FUD is using the myth that it (the thread) is to solely tag scammers.

The irony is you want people to tag your old UID but you don't want to report it to to the very people you are concerned will tag it.

Can you prove the old UID is yours so we're not just tagging someone so you can get off on the grief it would cause?
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 07:05:19 AM
#5
OK. I used to be 98789.

Why cant you just go with your old account? If you forgot your password, you can reset it using your email address, if you no longer have access to your email address, you can change it in your profile settings.

I am assuming OP never wanted to be tagged for waking up from long period of inactivity. Maybe a random user could tag him alleging that he is posting in different boards or has a deteriorated English over the years. If this happens, no one will come to the aid of OP.

I can say that he is smartly reporting that he is the owner of 98789 and also he has a new account. If he is actually the owner of the old account, there's nothing wrong in using both accounts if he wishes.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 05:28:27 AM
#4
OK. I used to be 98789.

Why cant you just go with your old account? If you forgot your password, you can reset it using your email address, if you no longer have access to your email address, you can change it in your profile settings.
legendary
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November 26, 2023, 05:22:06 AM
#3
When I was 98789 I staked one of my bitcoin addresses, but unfortunately it was a Coinbase address. To the best of my knowledge, they removed the ability to sign messages years ago, so while I know that that is the gold standard to prove you are who you claim to be, I won't be able to provide a signed message for that reason. I see no reason why I would claim some really old account (that has been inactive since then and that does not belong to some community "hero") to be me, but as alternatives to prove that I am 98789 I could tweet whatever message you want from @tregaus4 (a crypto/fake X account that belongs to me, as you can see in this unedited message from 98789 (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/need-some-follower-will-pay-1310101)) or if someone with more privileges is interested in verifying my claim, I can somehow confirm via email.
Tehnically, tg9 is the alt account of 98789 so you should log into your main account, tag the new one with neutral and then you can put the old back to rest if you wish and continue with new one from scratch.


Merit was introduced. I think the change was introduced not so long after I left the forum, and I have been aware of that change for a few years now (I kept visiting the forum from time to time, I simply did not participate in any discussions nor logged in). I do not consider I was the worst of spammers (at least compared to the average user, I was not a valuable asset to Bitcointalk either), but I would like to build my reputation and my ranks up under the system in place. This is probably 90% of why I went for a new account.
Imho, you shoulnd't feel like you ranking up in the old system is somehow underserving and that you have to start from scratch. I mean, there are bunch of high ranking shiptosters now thanks to the old system but its pretty much obvious who are they, meaning they got stuck at their current rank, or still have similar amount of merit even 5 years since the introduction of merit.



Everything is somehow confusing. Was your account hacked or sold?
From what I understand, neither. He just don't want to log in with the old one, for whatever reason.

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November 26, 2023, 04:49:05 AM
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Everything is somehow confusing. Was your account hacked or sold?
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