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Instead of confirming either Rollbit gives the @OP' money or the @OP accusation was wrong, the @OP decided to delete the title and the post without giving any words. So what does this mean? is @OP scared to get caught because he gamble in illegal site.
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Did you really know gambling sites that accept Italians "legally" and are not registered in AAMS portal hence they are not authorized in Italy? 🤨
Ok. I confirm this is not true. Can you provide proofs of what you are saying?
Even silence Is an answer....
Did you really know gambling sites that accept Italians "legally" and are not registered in AAMS portal hence they are not authorized in Italy? 🤨
Ok. I confirm this is not true. Can you provide proofs of what you are saying?
Even silence Is an answer....
... There are lots of casinos without such restrictions with high quality gambling.
This is not true! Don't give fake claims/suggestions...
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ANY site that is not listed in AAMS/hence has not a license cannot be used by Italians on Italy territory.
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ANY site that is not listed in AAMS/hence has not a license cannot be used by Italians on Italy territory.
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I would pay "attention if a site accept" Italians players (with KYC) since here in Italy they are completely illegally.
https://www.adm.gov.it/portale/en/monopoli/giochi/gioco_distanza/gioco_dist_concessionari
above, full list of gambling site authorized in Italy.
It was what i`m talking about and you tell the same.
https://www.blenheim.nl/en/blog/online-casinos-must-repay-gamblers-what-does-this-mean-for-the-gambling-industry/
Advice from a lawyer if you have lost money on an illegal online gambling website
Advice from a lawyer if you have lost money on an illegal online gambling website
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
You know he problem that most of us gave, we will know that something is not right but yet we will also want to give a try to see what might be the consequences of doing the wrong thing, he was banned, yet you're asking if another person from the same region could register and not get banned, of being a citizen of italy is what caused the ban, then don't try yours, if it was other reasons, try to Know which in other not to fall on the same reason and get penalized too.
From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played
You mean the casino was supposed to ban or restrict ip(s) accessing the forum from italy?, if this is what you actually meant, then I did say that you are right to some extent, but also have it in mind that for such restrictions, non Italian users may sometimes get affected due to a bug or some other reasons.So, for me, it's always better to simply state the number of jurisdictions or countries that the casino are not providing service to, its up to the players accessing the casino to avoid such casino after reading their terms of service and realizing that the his or her country is not supported.
So to this effect, I did advice op to stay away from Rollbit as from now on, to avoid getting banned just the same way his friend was banned.
From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played
I do not agree that the fault lies entirely on the site. The player can circumvent geolocation through the use of VPN or TOR. It is also stated on their TOS that they do not allow player from the restricted country. If the player only have read the ToS and if they are the one among those people who live in the restricted country then they should voluntarily give up the idea of registering to the site.
We all know that most of the online casino skip reading the ToS and just click the confirmation that they had read and agree with the Terms of the casino. So how can it be entirely the casinos fault when they already stated on their terms the restricted country and still these people from these banned country still register and play on the site?
Just like the rest been saying is that people would really be just that mindful on reading up those terms on the time that they would be experiencing those problems and they would really be just telling to themselves that they are really that wrong but we know that there would really be those type of person who would really be trying out to make some arguments that they were never commit out such thing or didnt have that violation
which is really that absurd. This one would really be opening up their minds and make out some realization that reading up sites ToS would really be always relevant and would really be that important.
From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played
I do not agree that the fault lies entirely on the site. The player can circumvent geolocation through the use of VPN or TOR. It is also stated on their TOS that they do not allow player from the restricted country. If the player only have read the ToS and if they are the one among those people who live in the restricted country then they should voluntarily give up the idea of registering to the site.
We all know that most of the online casino skip reading the ToS and just click the confirmation that they had read and agree with the Terms of the casino. So how can it be entirely the casinos fault when they already stated on their terms the restricted country and still these people from these banned country still register and play on the site?
From a legal point of view, the fault lies entirely with the site. It allowed the game to be registered and played
Are you sure about that?
Think of a situation where you have a guard dog and a gate with a warning sign "do not enter, guard dog inside." and someone opens the gate and walks in. Who is responsible for the bite, you, the dog, or the person who walked in despite the warning? It's impossible for any site to do KYC and check the account on the same day that it's registered.
I'm against casinos holding player's money and I think the fair way to settle this would be to return whatever is left from player's deposit and keep the rest. This way the casino is fair towards authorities because the gambler did not profit and the gambler gets to keep the deposit.
Everyone hates reading terms of services and I know why, looking at a page full of worlds just feel tired to me before I start reading, I know how it feels but on the other part, reading through it will reveal some secrets to you, maybe you are already about to do something wrong, but you don't know it.
I will advice everyone to take their time with Terms of Services first, to avoid stories that touch later, there are so many stories about casinos scamming them on here and when you read through it you will see that they don't read the Terms of Services first.
You don't have to read it all at once, and you don't have to rush into a casino all because you quickly want to start gambling, give it time, do some reading and come back the next day if you feel it's too much to read, this will save you from possible mistakes that you can only identify as mistake if you read through the Terms of Services.
I will advice everyone to take their time with Terms of Services first, to avoid stories that touch later, there are so many stories about casinos scamming them on here and when you read through it you will see that they don't read the Terms of Services first.
You don't have to read it all at once, and you don't have to rush into a casino all because you quickly want to start gambling, give it time, do some reading and come back the next day if you feel it's too much to read, this will save you from possible mistakes that you can only identify as mistake if you read through the Terms of Services.
Maybe my suggestions and solutions are not to be imitated but I only provide solutions to deal with problems experienced in being able to withdraw funds, I mean he transferred the account to another person to verify KYC and also for video call verification if needed, but I hope they are given permission to withdraw the initial deposit without needing to verify the account. However, everyone should pay attention to the terms and conditions even if you don't like reading a bunch of boring sentences but the fact is that all the rules depend on those sentences, users need to skim through the TOS to make sure there are no rules prohibiting their country from gambling at that casino.
This is really not a solution because of the IP difference when he create the account and play to the new IP which he will use to fake the KYC. Besides OP is still not caught yet which means he still have a time to withdraw his fund without doing KYC.
Faking KYC while you live on a restricted country will just make your funds forever frozen since you try to cheat instead of admitting your from restricted country since casino needs to refund the deposit no matter what happened due to legality of the issue.
Is very bad to use a site where you don't know what the terms of operations are and what possible reality awaits you in the future, such as in ops situations.
Sure that's what you've believe it to be but to me as a consumer, it shouldn't be my responsibility to sift through all the deeper words and technical mumbo jumbo because the more I spend understanding the words that I don't understand and even know the meaning it will end up with me having to less time gambling plus they probably should've just highlighted the spots that we need to know, the casinos should know by now that anyone's going to complay to all these stupid demands anyway since the players don't get to play there if they don't accept the terms and conditions, if that's not the case I'm sure a lot of people have been disagreeing with these terms and conditions.
There is no way you sign up on a site and disagree with the terms and conditions even after you read it and it does not sit well with you, you can only disagree if you don't want to use the site, but as long as you want to use that, you must agree to their terms and conditions or you just get out 
. I this exactly what part of centralization is all about, and entity wilding all the power, while the user either agree to their bid or look else where.And speaking of casinos making the part of their terms and conditions which users really have to know available to them, what I did tell you is, you should not allow your laziness to read deceive you into believing that there is a special part of terms and conditions that should be known while the other parts shouldnt
, every part of a casino's terms and conditions is very important to know as a user, but then, most users just find the entire document so uninteresting to read including myself . 
Maybe my suggestions and solutions are not to be imitated but I only provide solutions to deal with problems experienced in being able to withdraw funds, I mean he transferred the account to another person to verify KYC and also for video call verification if needed, but I hope they are given permission to withdraw the initial deposit without needing to verify the account. However, everyone should pay attention to the terms and conditions even if you don't like reading a bunch of boring sentences but the fact is that all the rules depend on those sentences, users need to skim through the TOS to make sure there are no rules prohibiting their country from gambling at that casino.
This is really not a solution because of the IP difference when he create the account and play to the new IP which he will use to fake the KYC. Besides OP is still not caught yet which means he still have a time to withdraw his fund without doing KYC.
Faking KYC while you live on a restricted country will just make your funds forever frozen since you try to cheat instead of admitting your from restricted country since casino needs to refund the deposit no matter what happened due to legality of the issue.
but I'm thinking of another solution option, if he hasn't applied for KYC but he uses other people's data from a legal gambling country, will the KYC be accepted?
I wouldn't recommend doing this. Not only because it is cheating but because it will do nothing but complicating things and making it harder to reach a friendly resolution for the problem.
Casinos already know about these cheating techniques and it will be hard to fool them. In OP's friend case, Rollbit asked him to verify his identity because they most likely know he is from a restricted country. If he submits fake documents, they will definitely ask for a extended verification such as a video call.
Better be honest and if you are lucky enough, they might let you withdraw your initial deposit.
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
It's going to hurt sooner or later if you're going to ignore reading the terms of service, honestly, I also find reading terms of service boring, reading these terms hurts the eyes because of too many words and some casinos put a lot of words that are confusing and repetitive, but you have no choice but to understand and read the terms because if there's any issue on your account, the terms are your best defense, and this will save you from all the troubles, be sure that before you start playing you fully understand the terms or better defer playing until you fully understand everything.
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The good news is that he might be able get a refund for all his deposits, because he was not allowed to used their services in the first place and therefore they are not allowed to keep his money. They have to give all deposits back. Again, this is from a non-lawyer perspective of my own countries laws.
Probably no refund if the friend was able to withdraw money prior to his KYC submission and the amount already covers all previous deposits. The player was already in profit at that point.The good news is that he might be able get a refund for all his deposits, because he was not allowed to used their services in the first place and therefore they are not allowed to keep his money. They have to give all deposits back. Again, this is from a non-lawyer perspective of my own countries laws.
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To be honest, I can't understand the ToS of these casinos. They block the most wealthiest countries but at the same time run promotions that are aimed to attract people from these wealthy nations, doesn't really make sense
It does look odd but I'm not surprised anymore. Curacao have approved the licenses of many casinos advertised here but the Government prohibits these gambling platforms from accepting players from their country. To be honest, I can't understand the ToS of these casinos. They block the most wealthiest countries but at the same time run promotions that are aimed to attract people from these wealthy nations, doesn't really make sense
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If only the casinos didn't make it so boring to read then a lot of people would probably know about the terms and condition but so far the trend of making the terms and condition look so boring to read is still the same as back in 2010s so I don't know if we're really the one to blame for all of this, terms and conditions are where business put in the malicious stuff that not a lot of people would agree to be a part of because they know that if they put it there, there's less likely people that will read it and technically they're in the right when it comes to the complaints. If you want to know the feeling of hating to read the terms and conditions or maybe even skipping it and just agreeing with it, try reading the Bible or the Dictionary and you'll probably understand what's the feeling.
However boring it may seem, it's still your responsibility to read and understand the terms of service, it's your responsibility to yourself to see to it that your account and money are safe you don't want to blame yourself later if you win a big amount of money and you cannot withdraw it because you overlooked something in the casino's terms of service.
Reading and understanding the terms of service is very important it's your guide and your defense in case, you encounter issues on your account.
. I this exactly what part of centralization is all about, and entity wilding all the power, while the user either agree to their bid or look else where.And speaking of casinos making the part of their terms and conditions which users really have to know available to them, what I did tell you is, you should not allow your laziness to read deceive you into believing that there is a special part of terms and conditions that should be known while the other parts shouldnt
, every part of a casino's terms and conditions is very important to know as a user, but then, most users just find the entire document so uninteresting to read including myself . If only the casinos didn't make it so boring to read then a lot of people would probably know about the terms and condition but so far the trend of making the terms and condition look so boring to read is still the same as back in 2010s so I don't know if we're really the one to blame for all of this, terms and conditions are where business put in the malicious stuff that not a lot of people would agree to be a part of because they know that if they put it there, there's less likely people that will read it and technically they're in the right when it comes to the complaints. If you want to know the feeling of hating to read the terms and conditions or maybe even skipping it and just agreeing with it, try reading the Bible or the Dictionary and you'll probably understand what's the feeling.
However boring it may seem, it's still your responsibility to read and understand the terms of service, it's your responsibility to yourself to see to it that your account and money are safe you don't want to blame yourself later if you win a big amount of money and you cannot withdraw it because you overlooked something in the casino's terms of service.
Reading and understanding the terms of service is very important it's your guide and your defense in case, you encounter issues on your account.
If you dont really care about your money(which is impossible) then reading up a few minutes with those pile of text wont really be giving any harm but rather it would be giving out that
awareness because reading up terms would really be always that beneficial on which this is a solid example on why it is really that important that you should really be giving out that kind of
priority on reading up those TOS because if you dont then you would really be ending up such as this situation which do really sucks specially if your funds had been locked up and been
having no clear chance whether it would be released or would really be that revoked.
awareness because reading up terms would really be always that beneficial on which this is a solid example on why it is really that important that you should really be giving out that kind of
priority on reading up those TOS because if you dont then you would really be ending up such as this situation which do really sucks specially if your funds had been locked up and been
having no clear chance whether it would be released or would really be that revoked.
Most of the casino usually doesn’t let you register when you are from restricted country. You will be automatically logout when you use an IP from restricted country as my experience when using VPN to change my IP.
I’m not sure if this is common feature but most of the trusted casino I’m using usually doesn’t let me enter when using restricted country IP. But you have a point that reading the ToS won’t hurt especially that there’s a “find in page” feature on browser to check the ToS quickly for the list of country not allowed to play.
Sigh! People don't like the truth, until they get hammered by what they believe to be true, like seriously, how are you going to feel comfortable using a platform with your money if not by reading their conditions? You won't even know maybe what you are about to do is forbidden by them, and when you get punished you will start saying they are scam, why do people hate reading Terms and conditions so much? I don't get it.
Terms and condition is the most important, if you can't read just skip some part by scrolling to the part where you need to see if KYC is a must to keep using the platform or not, believe me there is always something in the Terms and condition that you must be aware of, many people are living different types of countries, and some have hard laws on gambling.
OP you are to be blame for your lack of responsibility, the Rollbit team are not the ones to do one reading for customers, it's left for people to check this Terms and condition out first, if you are not satisfied with what you see you should look elsewhere.
If only the casinos didn't make it so boring to read then a lot of people would probably know about the terms and condition but so far the trend of making the terms and condition look so boring to read is still the same as back in 2010s so I don't know if we're really the one to blame for all of this, terms and conditions are where business put in the malicious stuff that not a lot of people would agree to be a part of because they know that if they put it there, there's less likely people that will read it and technically they're in the right when it comes to the complaints. If you want to know the feeling of hating to read the terms and conditions or maybe even skipping it and just agreeing with it, try reading the Bible or the Dictionary and you'll probably understand what's the feeling.Terms and condition is the most important, if you can't read just skip some part by scrolling to the part where you need to see if KYC is a must to keep using the platform or not, believe me there is always something in the Terms and condition that you must be aware of, many people are living different types of countries, and some have hard laws on gambling.
OP you are to be blame for your lack of responsibility, the Rollbit team are not the ones to do one reading for customers, it's left for people to check this Terms and condition out first, if you are not satisfied with what you see you should look elsewhere.
However boring it may seem, it's still your responsibility to read and understand the terms of service, it's your responsibility to yourself to see to it that your account and money are safe you don't want to blame yourself later if you win a big amount of money and you cannot withdraw it because you overlooked something in the casino's terms of service.
Reading and understanding the terms of service is very important it's your guide and your defense in case, you encounter issues on your account.
awareness because reading up terms would really be always that beneficial on which this is a solid example on why it is really that important that you should really be giving out that kind of
priority on reading up those TOS because if you dont then you would really be ending up such as this situation which do really sucks specially if your funds had been locked up and been
having no clear chance whether it would be released or would really be that revoked.
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
There is some good news and bad news. But then again the good news depends on your countries laws. I can only talk from a perspective of my countries laws.
The bad news is that Italy is one of the countries which is prohibited on the Terms and Services of Rollbit. Therefore your friend was not allowed to use their services in the first place and I doubt there is anything he can do to undo this.
The good news is that he might be able get a refund for all his deposits, because he was not allowed to used their services in the first place and therefore they are not allowed to keep his money. They have to give all deposits back. Again, this is from a non-lawyer perspective of my own countries laws.
As for you, you might get into trouble if you are an italian user on Rollbit.
Sigh! People don't like the truth, until they get hammered by what they believe to be true, like seriously, how are you going to feel comfortable using a platform with your money if not by reading their conditions? You won't even know maybe what you are about to do is forbidden by them, and when you get punished you will start saying they are scam, why do people hate reading Terms and conditions so much? I don't get it.
Terms and condition is the most important, if you can't read just skip some part by scrolling to the part where you need to see if KYC is a must to keep using the platform or not, believe me there is always something in the Terms and condition that you must be aware of, many people are living different types of countries, and some have hard laws on gambling.
OP you are to be blame for your lack of responsibility, the Rollbit team are not the ones to do one reading for customers, it's left for people to check this Terms and condition out first, if you are not satisfied with what you see you should look elsewhere.
If only the casinos didn't make it so boring to read then a lot of people would probably know about the terms and condition but so far the trend of making the terms and condition look so boring to read is still the same as back in 2010s so I don't know if we're really the one to blame for all of this, terms and conditions are where business put in the malicious stuff that not a lot of people would agree to be a part of because they know that if they put it there, there's less likely people that will read it and technically they're in the right when it comes to the complaints. If you want to know the feeling of hating to read the terms and conditions or maybe even skipping it and just agreeing with it, try reading the Bible or the Dictionary and you'll probably understand what's the feeling.Terms and condition is the most important, if you can't read just skip some part by scrolling to the part where you need to see if KYC is a must to keep using the platform or not, believe me there is always something in the Terms and condition that you must be aware of, many people are living different types of countries, and some have hard laws on gambling.
OP you are to be blame for your lack of responsibility, the Rollbit team are not the ones to do one reading for customers, it's left for people to check this Terms and condition out first, if you are not satisfied with what you see you should look elsewhere.
However boring it may seem, it's still your responsibility to read and understand the terms of service, it's your responsibility to yourself to see to it that your account and money are safe you don't want to blame yourself later if you win a big amount of money and you cannot withdraw it because you overlooked something in the casino's terms of service.
Reading and understanding the terms of service is very important it's your guide and your defense in case, you encounter issues on your account.
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
For your own safety, don't bypass restriction via VPN because once you are asked for KYC, you'll be in trouble like your friend. It's better to find a casino that allows you to play from italy.I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
Another option for you might be to use a VPN with dedicated IP and always keep in mind that once you'll be asked for KYC, your funds will be gone, i.e. only deposit what you can afford to lose and don't expect to withdraw big wins. But I don't recommend this method.
RollBit also sponsors the Napoli team 
They can sponsor any Italian team, but if their license prohibits them to serve Italian users, there is no way they can bend that ToS and risk getting into legal trouble by serving Italy illegally. Sponsoring a team from a country is entirely different from allowing users from that country to play on their platform. Again, it's more of them having limits on their license rather than them not wanting to do business with you guys. Trust me, they want to serve as much countries as they can IF they can.
To be honest, I can't understand the ToS of these casinos. They block the most wealthiest countries but at the same time run promotions that are aimed to attract people from these wealthy nations, doesn't really make sense
Sigh! People don't like the truth, until they get hammered by what they believe to be true, like seriously, how are you going to feel comfortable using a platform with your money if not by reading their conditions? You won't even know maybe what you are about to do is forbidden by them, and when you get punished you will start saying they are scam, why do people hate reading Terms and conditions so much? I don't get it.
Terms and condition is the most important, if you can't read just skip some part by scrolling to the part where you need to see if KYC is a must to keep using the platform or not, believe me there is always something in the Terms and condition that you must be aware of, many people are living different types of countries, and some have hard laws on gambling.
OP you are to be blame for your lack of responsibility, the Rollbit team are not the ones to do one reading for customers, it's left for people to check this Terms and condition out first, if you are not satisfied with what you see you should look elsewhere.
If only the casinos didn't make it so boring to read then a lot of people would probably know about the terms and condition but so far the trend of making the terms and condition look so boring to read is still the same as back in 2010s so I don't know if we're really the one to blame for all of this, terms and conditions are where business put in the malicious stuff that not a lot of people would agree to be a part of because they know that if they put it there, there's less likely people that will read it and technically they're in the right when it comes to the complaints. If you want to know the feeling of hating to read the terms and conditions or maybe even skipping it and just agreeing with it, try reading the Bible or the Dictionary and you'll probably understand what's the feeling. Terms and condition is the most important, if you can't read just skip some part by scrolling to the part where you need to see if KYC is a must to keep using the platform or not, believe me there is always something in the Terms and condition that you must be aware of, many people are living different types of countries, and some have hard laws on gambling.
OP you are to be blame for your lack of responsibility, the Rollbit team are not the ones to do one reading for customers, it's left for people to check this Terms and condition out first, if you are not satisfied with what you see you should look elsewhere.
Sigh! People don't like the truth, until they get hammered by what they believe to be true, like seriously, how are you going to feel comfortable using a platform with your money if not by reading their conditions? You won't even know maybe what you are about to do is forbidden by them, and when you get punished you will start saying they are scam, why do people hate reading Terms and conditions so much? I don't get it.
Terms and condition is the most important, if you can't read just skip some part by scrolling to the part where you need to see if KYC is a must to keep using the platform or not, believe me there is always something in the Terms and condition that you must be aware of, many people are living different types of countries, and some have hard laws on gambling.
OP you are to be blame for your lack of responsibility, the Rollbit team are not the ones to do one reading for customers, it's left for people to check this Terms and condition out first, if you are not satisfied with what you see you should look elsewhere.
Terms and condition is the most important, if you can't read just skip some part by scrolling to the part where you need to see if KYC is a must to keep using the platform or not, believe me there is always something in the Terms and condition that you must be aware of, many people are living different types of countries, and some have hard laws on gambling.
OP you are to be blame for your lack of responsibility, the Rollbit team are not the ones to do one reading for customers, it's left for people to check this Terms and condition out first, if you are not satisfied with what you see you should look elsewhere.
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
Anyone can help you with good advice here, it must not necessarily mean those who are betting with Rollbit. Without wasting time, I just confirmed that Rollbit doesn't accept Italian customers again. Are you an Italian? You never indicated it. And if you are just like your friend, it's good that you abide by their rules. You never also completed the narration because you never let us know if your friend's money is hooked there or not. Regardless, if they give him his money and part ways with him, that is fine, it's a mere goodbye, and he will find another better casino, so it's no big deal. And if you really are an Italian, you should do the same because you will definitely be met with the same fate over time, there is no way you will escape that. This is the reason why it is good to do your KYC even before you start depositing and gambling with casinos, by this, the issue would have been revealed early enough and you must have known the fate of moving to others soon enough. Nonetheless, I just searched about Stake.com to see if they allow Italians or not and the good news is that I never found where it stated that Stake won't allow an Italian. This is a better alternative for you, you have nothing to lose. So lift the spirit again. I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
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Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
Since you have learnt that Italian users arent welcomed on Rollbit through your friend who's account was banned, the only and best thing right now for you to do is withdraw your funds from Rollbit right and simply stop using them, this is to be on the safe side.I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
The longer you keep playing there and hoping nothing wrong happens, the higher the chances that you may win a good amount of money and upon requesting a withdrawal, you will be asked to pass kyc verification before your withdrawal request can be processed.
If the casino through your kyc verification learn that you are playing from Italy, they may ban your account as well and confiscate all your winnings including your capital, and if you do not verify, you likely will never get your funds, and if you decide to submit a fake document, there is a high chance that they will find out, and if they do, they will again ban you, and confiscate all your money.
So, the best thing to do now is to better find another casino where players from your country are welcomed, there are several crypto online gambling casinos to choose from, you can also try stake, but first find out if players from your country are welcomed.
Tell me one good reason why it's not good to read terms and conditions of a online casino before using it again? We have warned many people too many times about the importance of Terms and Comditions, if it's not important it won't be available on the platforms for new users to read.
Things like restricted countries, KYC requirements, and others are inside their AML policies, if you don't read it you will never know, many people have lost funds to online casinos because they are operating from a location that's not supported and they will come online to tarnish the image of the online casinos.
Some people rush to make their first deposits on a casino and later found out that they need to pass KYC before they can withdraw their money, do not be a lazy person with your money, it can cost big.
Things like restricted countries, KYC requirements, and others are inside their AML policies, if you don't read it you will never know, many people have lost funds to online casinos because they are operating from a location that's not supported and they will come online to tarnish the image of the online casinos.
Some people rush to make their first deposits on a casino and later found out that they need to pass KYC before they can withdraw their money, do not be a lazy person with your money, it can cost big.
Saw that Italy is in the resrticted country list and therefore nothing can be done. This is why it is necessary to always check the list of restricted countries, KYC mandatory or not and terms for using bonus. When you don't read those important information you get stuck in such issues. I don't think that your friend would have any chance of getting his money back. In order to find out whether you can still play and withdraw without going through KYC, you can read their AML policy.
... There are lots of casinos without such restrictions with high quality gambling.
This is not true! Don't give fake claims/suggestions...
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ANY site that is not listed in AAMS/hence has not a license cannot be used by Italians on Italy territory.
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ANY site that is not listed in AAMS/hence has not a license cannot be used by Italians on Italy territory.
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I would pay "attention if a site accept" Italians players (with KYC) since here in Italy they are completely illegally.
https://www.adm.gov.it/portale/en/monopoli/giochi/gioco_distanza/gioco_dist_concessionari
above, full list of gambling site authorized in Italy.
It is written in their ToS. So you can choose another casino, or you can use VPN. But if the casino will decide to KYC you - it will become a problem.
As for me, the best decision is to change casino. There are lots of casinos without such restrictions with high quality gambling.
As for me, the best decision is to change casino. There are lots of casinos without such restrictions with high quality gambling.
You might have considered posting this on their Ann thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-cryptos-most-rewarding-casino-5326640 so someone from their team might be able to reply you.
From the image above, it's clearly stated that users from Italy and the rest above mentioned countries aren't allowed to use their services. So it might have been a fault from your friends end since he is an Italian. This shows why it is very necessary to read the Toc of and service before using them.
Regarding form this image clearly OP not allowed to be part for RollBit but he was verified account and automatically detected with his region country, actually all countries allowed for using RollBit if not submit KYC document and the gambling platform can't detect well where your country or user come from. Risk with not allowed country from RollBit but keep push their self for joining when huge amount withdrawing and required with KYC will difficult how to verify it. From the image above, it's clearly stated that users from Italy and the rest above mentioned countries aren't allowed to use their services. So it might have been a fault from your friends end since he is an Italian. This shows why it is very necessary to read the Toc of and service before using them.
Due OP have verified his account and ask for RollBit teams are available for refunding his fund or not and account automatically will lock because restrict with RollBit policy rule.
You need to read the rules first, if you still continue to gamble despite knowing the risk, then that means you are willing to take the risk.
Since your friend account got banned, I like to ask if the fund was release or not? Because honestly, I have no idea about how the casinos would handle the funds of the user/s that are banned, if they aren't guided by the law to confiscate it and remit it to the authority, then a just casino should return your funds so you can go ahead and look for another gambling site that would completely welcome you.
Since your friend account got banned, I like to ask if the fund was release or not? Because honestly, I have no idea about how the casinos would handle the funds of the user/s that are banned, if they aren't guided by the law to confiscate it and remit it to the authority, then a just casino should return your funds so you can go ahead and look for another gambling site that would completely welcome you.
but I'm thinking of another solution option, if he hasn't applied for KYC but he uses other people's data from a legal gambling country, will the KYC be accepted?
I wouldn't recommend doing this. Not only because it is cheating but because it will do nothing but complicating things and making it harder to reach a friendly resolution for the problem.
Casinos already know about these cheating techniques and it will be hard to fool them. In OP's friend case, Rollbit asked him to verify his identity because they most likely know he is from a restricted country. If he submits fake documents, they will definitely ask for a extended verification such as a video call.
Better be honest and if you are lucky enough, they might let you withdraw your initial deposit.
They are targeting Napoli fans and they're global so, they can still be part of that casino if they are sponsoring it.
Next time, tell your friend that he should be aware of the terms and conditions so that he'd be able to choose the casino that he won't get banned.
Like, it's going to be the first basis of his priority factor to choose if the casino is available on your country or not.
Next time, tell your friend that he should be aware of the terms and conditions so that he'd be able to choose the casino that he won't get banned.
Like, it's going to be the first basis of his priority factor to choose if the casino is available on your country or not.
From the image above, it's clearly stated that users from Italy and the rest above mentioned countries aren't allowed to use their services. So it might have been a fault from your friends end since he is an Italian. This shows why it is very necessary to read the Toc of and service before using them.
His friend had ignored the TOS before the casino service had been used, after he found out that users from Italy were rejected then he complained here but unfortunately there is no solution to that problem because it is very clearly stated that Italy is on the list of countries that are prohibited for casinos, hopefully it will be experience for anyone to read the TOS before using casino services.but I'm thinking of another solution option, if he hasn't applied for KYC but he uses other people's data from a legal gambling country, will the KYC be accepted?
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
Don't you just understand the meaning of banned?Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
Yes, you may continue betting on the platform, but one day you will make a huge win and attempt to withdraw and that is when they will ask for your KYC documents. What will you do?
Obviously, from the legal side of things, you won't beat them since the terms of service are very clear.
Just withdraw your funds and move on.
RollBit also sponsors the Napoli team
Does it matter? Napoli does not use Rollbit to bet
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
No don't continue playing there even if you do not complete their KYC because one way or another they will ask you for KYC sooner or later it's better to take action now or regret it later when you win a big amount of money and you can't withdraw it, they have a reason now not to grant your withdrawal because right now you're violating their terms by playing in their platform.
Next time always check the terms of service before playing in a casino, you'll get trapped if you choose to ignore the terms of service, casinos should not let people from joining their platform but some casinos are not blocking these people creating a trap for people who do not read their terms.
You might have considered posting this on their Ann thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-cryptos-most-rewarding-casino-5326640 so someone from their team might be able to reply you.
From the image above, it's clearly stated that users from Italy and the rest above mentioned countries aren't allowed to use their services. So it might have been a fault from your friends end since he is an Italian. This shows why it is very necessary to read the Toc of and service before using them.
Yeah. But then again unless his friend used a VPN to access Rollbit and play in the gambling site I think the fault is not entirely upon the user. It's a must that you read the terms and agreement yes, but let's face it, no one's reading all of that especially if you're slapped with a great wall of text talking about business mumbo-jumbo you know jackshit about. Court cases were filed for this discussion and users have won under the same premises, so in that regard I think Rollbit should really go out there and make their site inaccessible for countries that they are ineligible to operate with (If they already haven't). If they do, then nice and I guess the fault is really upon the user this time. Rollbit's not liable to do any more business with him. From the image above, it's clearly stated that users from Italy and the rest above mentioned countries aren't allowed to use their services. So it might have been a fault from your friends end since he is an Italian. This shows why it is very necessary to read the Toc of and service before using them.
RollBit also sponsors the Napoli team
They can sponsor any team that they wish and even if a team is from the banned countries for their casino, it's what they do freely. There's a reason why they can't operate for those specific countries that are indicated on their websites and it's all about the laws. As long as they don't meddle with the people there to gamble onto their platform, that's not a problem to sponsor that team. So, what you gotta do now is to simply move on because there's no way that they're going to unblock your friend and for that reason, there's a purpose why they ask customers to comply with KYC and it's with reasons like this. Once you hit and they see that you're from a country that they don't support and ban from their platform, you'll get what they'll gonna give you and that's to restrict you from their platform. It's not the end of the world for your friend but does he have remaining balances there? If there is, he should be allowed to withdraw it by contacting the support or posting on their ann thread. 
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
it sounds like your friend can still be playing if he just wasn't too obedient.
rollbit still has no idea where you are from until they ask for KYC, so my tip is to not submit KYC documents still unless you can't do something inside the casino until you comply.
seeing now that Italian citizens aren't allowed, you just have to move to another casino. don't worry there are so many Bitcoin casinos. did your friend ever ask to be permitted to withdraw his funds?
RollBit also sponsors the Napoli team
I can find some information about that on their instagram account, but nothing on Napoli website at the moment. Partnerships and sponsorships are not limited to marketing to those in the host country, in the case of Napoli, they have international appeal and can reach to a wider audience, and bigger than that, they give legitimacy to the gambling website. Being associated to a top club gives stability to the platform.
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So this do talks about being that careless and not minding on reading up TOS would really be putting you in trouble. 
Terms and condition links arent there for nothing and it doesnt really cost you an arm and leg on reading up at least so that you will be able to avoid incidents like these.
These violators will really just whine out and tell this and tell that without even trying to look at on the things that they had done.
Well, whats done is done and you cant take it back unless if they would be making out those reconsiderations then it might be possible.
Terms and condition links arent there for nothing and it doesnt really cost you an arm and leg on reading up at least so that you will be able to avoid incidents like these.
These violators will really just whine out and tell this and tell that without even trying to look at on the things that they had done.
Well, whats done is done and you cant take it back unless if they would be making out those reconsiderations then it might be possible.
Rollbit has nothing to do with your friend’s unawareness of the full terms and rules before signing up, which means that he accepted those rules from the beginning. In the other side, your funds risk to be ceased so I recommend that you stop gambling with RollBit and try to withdraw all your funds even that the chances are very low, especially that you created this topic and RollBit representatives are present here so they may alert their support team to double the security measures which means you are very likely to pass the KYC process.
Hopefully, next time signing up to a new casino you will be more aware of their T&S, make sure you choose a casino that allows your region.
Hopefully, next time signing up to a new casino you will be more aware of their T&S, make sure you choose a casino that allows your region.
You might have considered posting this on their Ann thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-cryptos-most-rewarding-casino-5326640 so someone from their team might be able to reply you.
From the image above, it's clearly stated that users from Italy and the rest above mentioned countries aren't allowed to use their services. So it might have been a fault from your friends end since he is an Italian. This shows why it is very necessary to read the Toc of and service before using them.
People would really be only having some time on reading back that terms and conditions on the time that they would really be experiencing some problems or issues on which they didnt really do such thing From the image above, it's clearly stated that users from Italy and the rest above mentioned countries aren't allowed to use their services. So it might have been a fault from your friends end since he is an Italian. This shows why it is very necessary to read the Toc of and service before using them.
on the time that they would really be deciding on making up some deposit until these things do happen which it is really that a very disappointing situation or really do sucks but the main issue here
is that you had missed out on reading up their terms on which it is really just that normal for a platform to take up actions accordingly basing up into those terms on which it is really just that normal.
No matter what arguments or decisions that you would be making but still you wont really be having a fight considering that you had violated something.
This is why it would be better to move on and dont make out argument on something which you cant really be able to win. It is our mistake so its better to move on
and consider those funds to be lost already.
@BigCoin95 (note I am Italian...)
ANY site that is not listed in AAMS/hence has not a license cannot be used by Italians on Italy territory.
Technically it should be also obscured...likewise you get an error page.
Try to access to betfair.com automatically you get redirection to betfair.it
I know it's a big issues and with KYC it creates a lots of problem
Don't ask my opinion on that law, I am criticizing since 2000... I have lost even access to software license due this law
ANY site that is not listed in AAMS/hence has not a license cannot be used by Italians on Italy territory.
Technically it should be also obscured...likewise you get an error page.
Try to access to betfair.com automatically you get redirection to betfair.it
I know it's a big issues and with KYC it creates a lots of problem
Don't ask my opinion on that law, I am criticizing since 2000... I have lost even access to software license due this law
There are other platforms that accept Italian users. I wouldn't put funds at risk if it clearly states in the ToS that you're not supposed to be on the platform. All you're doing is asking for heartache later if you win something decent. Be smart and abandon Rollbit.
RollBit also sponsors the Napoli team
This really doesn't make any sense, but looking at the Napoli website: https://sscnapoli.it/partner I'm not seeing any casino and also when I look at the Napoli shirts I'm not seeing any casino being advertised on the Napoli shirts, and on the rollbit website https://rollbit.com/ I also don't see anything about Napoli, maybe the partnership has been terminated. When governments prohibit their citizens from using certain casinos, they also prohibit advertising these casinos in public or even private places. I don't know what led your country's government to adopt very radical measures, but unfortunately they are things that you must comply with
As some people have already said, I suggest that you withdraw your money immediately from the casino and close your account because if it is a law that your country's government created, then you could suffer sanctions for using rollbit. There are times when people are chosen to govern who are very irritating and who harm other people when they are governing, this is the case with your country's government and you have no choice, you can only accept the things that your government has prohibited.
RollBit also sponsors the Napoli team
They can sponsor any Italian team, but if their license prohibits them to serve Italian users, there is no way they can bend that ToS and risk getting into legal trouble by serving Italy illegally. Sponsoring a team from a country is entirely different from allowing users from that country to play on their platform. Again, it's more of them having limits on their license rather than them not wanting to do business with you guys. Trust me, they want to serve as much countries as they can IF they can.
All these countries are bar from using their service wow!! That is really much. What do you think is the reason of the bar. And one thing the casino would have done is that they have asked the users their countries when registering in the site so that once detected the person would be restricted instantly so he would not continue the process and if he played smart by selecting another country to signed up and when It is time for the KYC and the KYC is contrary to the registered country then they can ban him for where by in the registration time there was no such country question was asked and he registered it successfully then they would have warned him to first before banning him. And Your friend too made a very big mistake by not reading the terms and conditions before going further to do the registration. Now that he has been bar from the service or the from site what will he do? Absolutely Nothing, because they wii tag him that he has violated the ToS. And the Op of this thread, since you have known what will happen in the future, you have to use wisdom and withdraw your money if you can and leave the site before you are also ban.
If I were you I would try and withdraw the remaining funds on the account and hopefully, they won't ask for my KYC when I do it. Italy is one of the prohibited countries on their gambling site(I saw it on their ToS) so don't hope that they will make an exception for you. it would be better to find a gambling site that caters to Italian gamblers.
Hello everyone,
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
I've been betting on Rollbit for about two months, just yesterday a friend of mine was banned after completing KYC and the reason they gave him was that he was an Italian user.
Without completing the KYC, is it possible to operate on Rollbit also for Italian users?
I ask for help because I don't want to find myself with blocked funds just for being Italian
Rollbit Razer could you help me?
Read the ToS since casino usually states the restricted country in there instead of asking it here because that’s a requirement when you create an account. If your fellow country man got ban then it means that your country is restricted(assuming that your information is correct as I didn’t check Rollbit ToS).
Just withdraw your funds immediately if you want to play safe from hassle on claiming it in the future once you get caught. Always read the ToS and check for your country if restricted to avoid problems in the future.
You might have considered posting this on their Ann thread here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rollbitcom-cryptos-most-rewarding-casino-5326640 so someone from their team might be able to reply you.
From the image above, it's clearly stated that users from Italy and the rest above mentioned countries aren't allowed to use their services. So it might have been a fault from your friends end since he is an Italian. This shows why it is very necessary to read the Toc of and service before using them.
From the image above, it's clearly stated that users from Italy and the rest above mentioned countries aren't allowed to use their services. So it might have been a fault from your friends end since he is an Italian. This shows why it is very necessary to read the Toc of and service before using them.
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