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trace666

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Quote from: Raystonn on May 15, 2014, 08:21:21 PM

What you want is M3, not M2. The Federal Reserve ceased publication of M3 on March 23, 2006. Love the transparency...

Updated my post above again with M3 statistics from Shadow Government Statistics, American Business Analytics & Research LLC, M3 ShadowStats chart at http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data/money-supply-charts

I am still not convinced that the USD money supply increases faster than the BTC money supply. Obviously, this will change in the far future, when most BTC have been mined.

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What you want is M3, not M2. The Federal Reserve ceased publication of M3 on March 23, 2006. Love the transparency...

trace666

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I updated my post above with data on USD monetary supply from the World Bank, which I found here http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/FM.LBL.MQMY.ZG

Shows a different picture than your graph. wonder how to reconcile.

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Quote from: trace666 on May 15, 2014, 01:36:44 AM

since we are mining large numbers of bitcoin every day, for the next few years, bitcoin supply will increase faster than USD supply. only later is what you say true.

Did you see the charts? USD supply is increasing MUCH faster than Bitcoin supply. So this statement is false.

For bitcoin, I found the following growth rates at at https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Controlled_supply

Year

BTC Supply
Growth Rate

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since we are mining large numbers of bitcoin every day, for the next few years, bitcoin supply will increase faster than USD supply. only later is what you say true.

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Quote from: TERA on May 14, 2014, 09:21:52 PM

In saying "retains value". you cannot simply look at one side of supply vs. demand - you have to look at both. Bitcoin retains value because both the supply is limited and because it is growing in demand. However, if the demand were to ever shrink at some point, it would not retain value.

Well for that, I have another article Wink

http://www.usacryptocoins.com/thecryptocurrencytimes/uncategorized/the-past-and-future-of-bitcoins-price/

I believe Bitcoin's demand is only going to increase from here.

Yes I understand you believe that Bitcoin's demand is going up. However, you must include that in the list of TWO reasons why Bitcoin retains value, and you cannot just mention the supply side.

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I think the point is that it retains value better than the USD for the first 1/2 of the equation, being that it is not printed (infinite supply). The USD also needs demand in order to retain value. If no one wants the USD in exchange for their goods/services, it also becomes worthless.

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In saying "retains value". you cannot simply look at one side of supply vs. demand - you have to look at both. Bitcoin retains value because both the supply is limited and because it is growing in demand. However, if the demand were to ever shrink at some point, it would not retain value.

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