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applesRyummy

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Quote from: opieum2 on January 03, 2015, 11:28:14 PM

Plausible but tracable. blockchain can be checked for that sort of activity. The trick would be to see where all the unloads are coming from. Who is selling and why. Big fish wallets most likley. Could be to drive the pressure down to get more. OR to just tank bitcoin. Again the why after the who would need to be established. Follow the money. And in bitcoin it is possible to follow the money.

It is 100% impossible to trace why a certain person is selling. This information is only stored in a person's head and they more often then not will not want to disclose such information.

I would somewhat doubt that the prices are manipulated by the exchanges. The fact that exchanges have competition and that people try to arb the difference in price between exchanges will prevent this from ever being successful

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Quote from: TrollinU on January 03, 2015, 11:59:10 PM

Of course it's manipulated. We've all known that for a few years. But I don't think it's the exchanges...

Not possible. They are, at a minimum, complicit.

There's no transparency. They'd be fools not to be!

If you believe this then why the hell you mess w Bitcoin? You can't win a rigged game

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Quote from: TrollinU on January 03, 2015, 11:39:15 PM

You're right, and I'm sorry Embarrassed

But this is just ridiculous

Is it...really?

There's something more to these price swings...and no, it's not just "bearwhales" dumping coins.

Within the next 45 days there will be another pump, followed by decline. These markets are being manipulated. By whom and to what extent remains to be seen, but they most definitely are.

I am speculating here...this is the Speculation forum, right?

Of course it's manipulated. We've all known that for a few years. But I don't think it's the exchanges... At least not how you would think. In China they cheat the volume by buying/selling to themselves with feeless trading. BFX may actually have something mildly nefarious going on, but I can't put my finger on it yet. Bitstamp and btce look to be just doing their thing. Bitstamp didn't move at first while china was dumping. Bitstamp didn't care. China eventually came back to meet Bitstamp in price. No one goes anywhere without bitstamps say so. They don't lead in most cases, but they do allow or deny the move before it gets out of control.

I said it in my first post, they would be better off trading with the trend and making real money than to stir up some volatility for pennies. They have access to every order on their book. They can cross reference that with profitability of traders and either play with or against them depending on the set up

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Quote from: TrollinU on January 03, 2015, 11:30:03 PM

Thoughts?
You're an idiot. They would be better off trading with their profit since they have the inside track on all orders on their exchange.

Well, aren't you a meanie pants today?

You're right, and I'm sorry Embarrassed

But this is just ridiculous

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Thoughts?
You're an idiot. They would be better off trading with their profit since they have the inside track on all orders on their exchange.

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Plausible but tracable. blockchain can be checked for that sort of activity. The trick would be to see where all the unloads are coming from. Who is selling and why. Big fish wallets most likley. Could be to drive the pressure down to get more. OR to just tank bitcoin. Again the why after the who would need to be established. Follow the money. And in bitcoin it is possible to follow the money.

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