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stompix

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Why pump the water up?
Let it flow on its own.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qattara_Depression_Project

And there are many places in the world like that, you would just have to build a canal and let the water flow..
Death Valley is another example, Lake Assal, the Dead Sea.

Quote from: suchmoon on May 03, 2018, 08:44:59 PM

What happens after plants "eat" it? Does carbon simply disappear never to be seen again? Asking for a friend.

Well, the good part is that after the plants eats it does disappear from the cycle for a while.
The bad part is that when we harvest the plants or the plants die it comes back.
The very bad part is that if we burn the biomass the carbon comes back also in form of CO not only CO2

B1tUnl0ck3r

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Quote from: krogothmanhattan on May 04, 2018, 07:54:19 AM

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 03, 2018, 02:21:41 PM

Quote from: krogothmanhattan on May 03, 2018, 05:37:18 AM

Lets say your idea is indeed a solution, which its not by the way.

What do you think is needed to pump that volume of water from sea level all the way up to the top of the mountains?

Electrically driven water pumps. And guess what? It needs a hell of a lot of electricity to drive those water pumps to be able to pressurize and lift the water to the top of the mountain.

Here is a study by the University of California on the amount of electrical power required to move all that mass http://cetulare.ucanr.edu/files/82040.pdf

Now add to that weight of water which is 8.34lbs per gallon by the way, the static pressure pushing down on a column of water.

That equals to 0.5 psig (appr) per foot of water column. So if say a mountain is 4000 feet, which is not that high for a typical mountain, then you have 2000 psig of water head pressure to push against!

Do you have any idea hoe much electrical power is needed? Where is electricity coming from? Mostly fossil fuel plants which in turn causes a depletion in the ozone layer.

This will lead to yet even more polar caps melting that in turn causes sea levels to rise.

solar panel, cycle fast day/night you have a lot of energy. you know there is you, aka the west small mind, conditioned, serfs. and their is the east... let's do it

. step by step... and then you can see it from space, and it' called the wall of china...

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it's like bitcoin... some said... Cheesy

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Yes solar panels might do it but they will need a lot of them to create the tremendous amount of energy to accomplish this feat.

Also you will need to use energy to make the solar panels. I am not sure what that environmental footprint will be on that but I am sure it will be substantial as well.

As they say, better an ounce of prevention than a pound of cure. Which seems what is happening here.

better an enemy dead than hurt isn't agreed... will see when they will discover their folly.

krogothmanhattan

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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 03, 2018, 02:21:41 PM

Quote from: krogothmanhattan on May 03, 2018, 05:37:18 AM

Lets say your idea is indeed a solution, which its not by the way.

What do you think is needed to pump that volume of water from sea level all the way up to the top of the mountains?

Electrically driven water pumps. And guess what? It needs a hell of a lot of electricity to drive those water pumps to be able to pressurize and lift the water to the top of the mountain.

Here is a study by the University of California on the amount of electrical power required to move all that mass http://cetulare.ucanr.edu/files/82040.pdf

Now add to that weight of water which is 8.34lbs per gallon by the way, the static pressure pushing down on a column of water.

That equals to 0.5 psig (appr) per foot of water column. So if say a mountain is 4000 feet, which is not that high for a typical mountain, then you have 2000 psig of water head pressure to push against!

Do you have any idea hoe much electrical power is needed? Where is electricity coming from? Mostly fossil fuel plants which in turn causes a depletion in the ozone layer.

This will lead to yet even more polar caps melting that in turn causes sea levels to rise.

solar panel, cycle fast day/night you have a lot of energy. you know there is you, aka the west small mind, conditioned, serfs. and their is the east... let's do it

. step by step... and then you can see it from space, and it' called the wall of china...

.

it's like bitcoin... some said... Cheesy

.

Yes solar panels might do it but they will need a lot of them to create the tremendous amount of energy to accomplish this feat.

Also you will need to use energy to make the solar panels. I am not sure what that environmental footprint will be on that but I am sure it will be substantial as well.

As they say, better an ounce of prevention than a pound of cure. Which seems what is happening here.

B1tUnl0ck3r

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 03, 2018, 08:44:59 PM

Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 03, 2018, 04:11:34 PM

Quote from: RodeoX on May 03, 2018, 03:29:28 PM

The problem with all the strategies to address global warming from CO2 is that they all require as much or more CO2 production as the problem. Perhaps you don't know this yet, but we are F#
Cry

plants eat co2... it's a total crap bullshit... have you seen depollution towers in china? I guess not...

co2 is not toxic ! it makes plants grow faster...

only moron left in this forum...

What happens after plants "eat" it? Does carbon simply disappear never to be seen again? Asking for a friend.

it become biomass, traping co2 if you know how to handle it... it's just like the water cycle... it's the co2 cycle... co2 > o2 (c fixed in plants and biomass) and restart on and on... same for h2o... rain,,, sea... evapo... rain.... sea... evapo... on and on as long as the sun shines.

suchmoon

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Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 03, 2018, 04:11:34 PM

Quote from: RodeoX on May 03, 2018, 03:29:28 PM

The problem with all the strategies to address global warming from CO2 is that they all require as much or more CO2 production as the problem. Perhaps you don't know this yet, but we are F#
Cry

plants eat co2... it's a total crap bullshit... have you seen depollution towers in china? I guess not...

co2 is not toxic ! it makes plants grow faster...

only moron left in this forum...

What happens after plants "eat" it? Does carbon simply disappear never to be seen again? Asking for a friend.

B1tUnl0ck3r

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liife threw a tempest at you? be a coconut !

Quote from: RodeoX on May 03, 2018, 03:29:28 PM

The problem with all the strategies to address global warming from CO2 is that they all require as much or more CO2 production as the problem. Perhaps you don't know this yet, but we are F#
Cry

plants eat co2... it's a total crap bullshit... have you seen depollution towers in china? I guess not...

co2 is not toxic ! it makes plants grow faster...

only moron left in this forum...

RodeoX

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The revolution will be monetized!

The problem with all the strategies to address global warming from CO2 is that they all require as much or more CO2 production as the problem. Perhaps you don't know this yet, but we are F#
Cry

Rath_

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Quote from: B1tUnl0ck3r on May 03, 2018, 02:21:41 PM

solar panel, cycle fast day/night you have a lot of energy. you know there is you, aka the west small mind, conditioned, serfs. and their is the east... let's do it

. step by step... and then you can see it from space, and it' called the wall of china...

.

it's like bitcoin... some said... Cheesy

.

Solar panels are not cheap and they don't generate as much electricity as you think. It will take years for us to develop more efficient sources of renewable energy. It might be even too late. Why does oil industry trample over us and environment so much? It looks like it's easier for them to pump more oil than invest some of their billions in on going research.

B1tUnl0ck3r

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liife threw a tempest at you? be a coconut !

Quote from: krogothmanhattan on May 03, 2018, 05:37:18 AM

Lets say your idea is indeed a solution, which its not by the way.

What do you think is needed to pump that volume of water from sea level all the way up to the top of the mountains?

Electrically driven water pumps. And guess what? It needs a hell of a lot of electricity to drive those water pumps to be able to pressurize and lift the water to the top of the mountain.

Here is a study by the University of California on the amount of electrical power required to move all that mass http://cetulare.ucanr.edu/files/82040.pdf

Now add to that weight of water which is 8.34lbs per gallon by the way, the static pressure pushing down on a column of water.

That equals to 0.5 psig (appr) per foot of water column. So if say a mountain is 4000 feet, which is not that high for a typical mountain, then you have 2000 psig of water head pressure to push against!

Do you have any idea hoe much electrical power is needed? Where is electricity coming from? Mostly fossil fuel plants which in turn causes a depletion in the ozone layer.

This will lead to yet even more polar caps melting that in turn causes sea levels to rise.

solar panel, cycle fast day/night you have a lot of energy. you know there is you, aka the west small mind, conditioned, serfs. and their is the east... let's do it

. step by step... and then you can see it from space, and it' called the wall of china...

.

it's like bitcoin... some said... Cheesy

.

krogothmanhattan

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Activity: 2520

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The Stone the masons rejected was the cornerstone.

Lets say your idea is indeed a solution, which its not by the way.

What do you think is needed to pump that volume of water from sea level all the way up to the top of the mountains?

Electrically driven water pumps. And guess what? It needs a hell of a lot of electricity to drive those water pumps to be able to pressurize and lift the water to the top of the mountain.

Here is a study by the University of California on the amount of electrical power required to move all that mass http://cetulare.ucanr.edu/files/82040.pdf

Now add to that weight of water which is 8.34lbs per gallon by the way, the static pressure pushing down on a column of water.

That equals to 0.5 psig (appr) per foot of water column. So if say a mountain is 4000 feet, which is not that high for a typical mountain, then you have 2000 psig of water head pressure to push against!

Do you have any idea hoe much electrical power is needed? Where is electricity coming from? Mostly fossil fuel plants which in turn causes a depletion in the ozone layer.

This will lead to yet even more polar caps melting that in turn causes sea levels to rise.

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Quote from: aleksej996 on April 19, 2018, 02:58:00 PM

Sure, why don't we just send it to space. There, boom, problem solved.
We could also just nuke it and it will evaporate right?

You are overthinking it! Just get everyone in the world to drink an extra glass of water a day, and boom, problem solved. Everyone knows that water you have drunk disappears forever, just like water that evaporates. Rain is fake news!

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Quote from: aleksej996 on April 19, 2018, 02:58:00 PM

You give a simple solution that doesn't make sense to apply in real world.

I'm a bit confused as to what is the problem the OP is trying to solve?

There is already a massive pump moving water to the mountains AKA the Sun and it does the evaporation thing too.

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Sure, why don't we just send it to space. There, boom, problem solved.
We could also just nuke it and it will evaporate right?

I don't think you live in the real world mate.
Seems like a general problem of your ideas is that you don't understand the costs of doing things.
You give a simple solution that doesn't make sense to apply in real world.

Let me put it this way. It is a lot simpler for the whole World to just stop using fossil fuels than to fix all the negative effects of global warning.
It is easy to destroy things, very hard to fix them. Usually adults don't break stuff just so they can clean it up later.
The reason why people still use fossil fuels isn't because they doubt global warming or because they think these problems are unsolvable.
It is simply because they don't care enough about the consequences to stop right now.
That and the strong influence of oil industry on the governments that makes it hard to stop.

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