0.01 btc loan with collateral for 5 days repay 0.0135 02-02-2017

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Quote from: gkv9 on February 03, 2017, 10:21:59 AM

Quote from: xJuturna on February 02, 2017, 04:37:01 PM

Just going to bump this thread here as today was the date of repayment. Looking forward to hearing back from you gembira

Was the repayment actually made???
I have seen gembira and mocacinno both being online today, but no replies here as of yet, this shows that one should never "trust" someone without any collateral unless there is something extremely strong in their opinion...
One more thing that I heard from Vod is that, "Collateral is something you want back." and I don't think that OP might have been interested in getting his Full Member account back after a possible scam attempt...

Looks like no payment has been made, as of now.
At least I don't see any tx's or acknowledgment of any sort.

This whole deal was a mess from the start. OP was all for giving his account details while lender was earnestly declining and that 'no colateral needed' bull.

@xJuturna, did you even receive any PM from OP asking for an extension or is this a default?

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Quote from: xJuturna on February 02, 2017, 04:37:01 PM

Just going to bump this thread here as today was the date of repayment. Looking forward to hearing back from you gembira

Was the repayment actually made???
I have seen gembira and mocacinno both being online today, but no replies here as of yet, this shows that one should never "trust" someone without any collateral unless there is something extremely strong in their opinion...
One more thing that I heard from Vod is that, "Collateral is something you want back." and I don't think that OP might have been interested in getting his Full Member account back after a possible scam attempt...

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Just going to bump this thread here as today was the date of repayment. Looking forward to hearing back from you gembira

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Quote from: ThatRandom8543 on January 28, 2017, 03:25:54 AM

Quote from: josephdd1 on January 28, 2017, 02:56:56 AM

You shouldn't give loan(s) without collateral.
This way you encourage "members" and any possible scammer, to ask a loan without...nothing.

You should think twice before make that move... Undecided

Youre right, he shouldnt give loans without collateral, but this is an act of trust and the level of risk hes willingly to take. If there is little to no trust, then yea collateral would be needed, but trusting the member to pay back the loan doesnt mean it would encourage others because they would still need to be trusted, and trust is very hard to come by now these days.

You are both right in a sense. I did receive a PM from a new member asking for me to fill a loan with some jacked up collateral. This is just a case of me trusting gembira to fulfill his end of the deal and accepting the loss if absolutely need be.

Thanks for the detective work that is also being done in this thread, you guys are good haha..

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Quote from: josephdd1 on January 28, 2017, 05:30:21 AM

So it's obvious that Op is an Alt of mocacinno or the opposite! Grin

But why to ask a loan if he want's to "give one?! Makes no sence.
Except if he want's to dump his alt account through a "loan request"... Undecided

Connection proofs confirms that both were holded by same person at a point of time. Also proof connecting mocacinno dates back to 2014-15. So there will be only two situations : either both are connected still or it confirms that mocacinno is a bought account after Feb,2015

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Quote from: Avirunes on January 28, 2017, 04:21:52 AM

Accounts Connected: gembira, mocacinno

Proof of Connection:

gembira uses address: 1Ny3PMgByqXfQiqEnyCo7PSitdSnWpvwui in this thread. archive: http://archive.is/zQsBO#selection-2907.9-2907.43

mocacinno uses 1NPxAaikDhifNff5wsf21ovn9ttJZtMgJ6 and 1CaxtfUECYxCd2XYNr5zYREqhVX1xR6jMG here:

Quote from: gembira on October 12, 2016, 10:40:27 AM

my task : https://www.facebook.com/adven.hutagalung.9/posts/564462573756273
check it Wink

Archive: http://archive.is/r4RbS#selection-4989.8-4991.37

and,

Quote

https://twitter.com/DirectBetEU/status/508970208266948608
https://www.facebook.com/adven.hutagalung.9

http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1JZRZdcHmriscKin6GrbocKgV3bTy5btcw

Archive: http://archive.is/wZraZ#selection-9646.15-9747.43

I am confused as from one account: mocacinno he was about to fill a loan request of 0.23 BTC here: http://archive.is/0uGyL but later he went down and now he is asking 0.01 BTC loan from his other account gembira.

So it's obvious that Op is an Alt of mocacinno or the opposite! Grin

But why to ask a loan if he want's to "give one?! Makes no sence.
Except if he want's to dump his alt account through a "loan request"... Undecided

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Accounts Connected: gembira, mocacinno

Proof of Connection:

gembira uses address: 1Ny3PMgByqXfQiqEnyCo7PSitdSnWpvwui in this thread. archive: http://archive.is/zQsBO#selection-2907.9-2907.43

mocacinno uses 1NPxAaikDhifNff5wsf21ovn9ttJZtMgJ6 and 1CaxtfUECYxCd2XYNr5zYREqhVX1xR6jMG here:

Quote from: gembira on October 12, 2016, 10:40:27 AM

my task : https://www.facebook.com/adven.hutagalung.9/posts/564462573756273
check it Wink

Archive: http://archive.is/r4RbS#selection-4989.8-4991.37

and,

Quote

https://twitter.com/DirectBetEU/status/508970208266948608
https://www.facebook.com/adven.hutagalung.9

http://www.directbet.eu/BetStatus.cshtml?BetID=1JZRZdcHmriscKin6GrbocKgV3bTy5btcw

Archive: http://archive.is/wZraZ#selection-9646.15-9747.43

I am confused as from one account: mocacinno he was about to fill a loan request of 0.23 BTC here: http://archive.is/0uGyL but later he went down and now he is asking 0.01 BTC loan from his other account gembira.

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Quote from: josephdd1 on January 28, 2017, 02:56:56 AM

You shouldn't give loan(s) without collateral.
This way you encourage "members" and any possible scammer, to ask a loan without...nothing.

You should think twice before make that move... Undecided

Youre right, he shouldnt give loans without collateral, but this is an act of trust and the level of risk hes willingly to take. If there is little to no trust, then yea collateral would be needed, but trusting the member to pay back the loan doesnt mean it would encourage others because they would still need to be trusted, and trust is very hard to come by now these days.

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Quote from: xJuturna on January 27, 2017, 06:36:35 PM

Quote from: gembira on January 27, 2017, 06:28:07 PM

Quote from: xJuturna on January 27, 2017, 06:20:53 PM

Address : 1DB3HJ2s29SFd8Ug6v6FaMtokUGCVcSAQu

Message : This is xJuturna from bitcointalk. Today's date is 28JAN2017 and I have sent gembira 0.01 BTC to the address 1Ny3PMgByqXfQiqEnyCo7PSitdSnWpvwui. Repayment of 0.0135 BTC is due 02FEB2017

Signature : HNjaFIOZCDPMeCubcwWEzpx+73kOSK134Q23Ii/TDgE2SVnOyfo2jBHYJpUcVjYF1zCFYHKPve/exPtt7GSb8EM=

Transaction ID : https://blockchain.info/tx/55863b93f91c0d5515e2780f5abae41e8390c823c815b6f3a5f6e7e3495796e2

so fast ,received..detail my account via PMs

You don't have to PM me account details, I am providing this loan without collateral

You shouldn't give loan(s) without collateral.
This way you encourage "members" and any possible scammer, to ask a loan without...nothing.

You should think twice before make that move... Undecided

xJuturna

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Quote from: gembira on January 27, 2017, 06:28:07 PM

Quote from: xJuturna on January 27, 2017, 06:20:53 PM

Address : 1DB3HJ2s29SFd8Ug6v6FaMtokUGCVcSAQu

Message : This is xJuturna from bitcointalk. Today's date is 28JAN2017 and I have sent gembira 0.01 BTC to the address 1Ny3PMgByqXfQiqEnyCo7PSitdSnWpvwui. Repayment of 0.0135 BTC is due 02FEB2017

Signature : HNjaFIOZCDPMeCubcwWEzpx+73kOSK134Q23Ii/TDgE2SVnOyfo2jBHYJpUcVjYF1zCFYHKPve/exPtt7GSb8EM=

Transaction ID : https://blockchain.info/tx/55863b93f91c0d5515e2780f5abae41e8390c823c815b6f3a5f6e7e3495796e2

so fast ,received..detail my account via PMs

You don't have to PM me account details, I am providing this loan without collateral

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Quote from: xJuturna on January 27, 2017, 06:20:53 PM

Address : 1DB3HJ2s29SFd8Ug6v6FaMtokUGCVcSAQu

Message : This is xJuturna from bitcointalk. Today's date is 28JAN2017 and I have sent gembira 0.01 BTC to the address 1Ny3PMgByqXfQiqEnyCo7PSitdSnWpvwui. Repayment of 0.0135 BTC is due 02FEB2017

Signature : HNjaFIOZCDPMeCubcwWEzpx+73kOSK134Q23Ii/TDgE2SVnOyfo2jBHYJpUcVjYF1zCFYHKPve/exPtt7GSb8EM=

Transaction ID : https://blockchain.info/tx/55863b93f91c0d5515e2780f5abae41e8390c823c815b6f3a5f6e7e3495796e2

so fast ,received..detail my account via PMs

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Address : 1DB3HJ2s29SFd8Ug6v6FaMtokUGCVcSAQu

Message : This is xJuturna from bitcointalk. Today's date is 28JAN2017 and I have sent gembira 0.01 BTC to the address 1Ny3PMgByqXfQiqEnyCo7PSitdSnWpvwui. Repayment of 0.0135 BTC is due 02FEB2017

Signature : HNjaFIOZCDPMeCubcwWEzpx+73kOSK134Q23Ii/TDgE2SVnOyfo2jBHYJpUcVjYF1zCFYHKPve/exPtt7GSb8EM=

Transaction ID : https://blockchain.info/tx/55863b93f91c0d5515e2780f5abae41e8390c823c815b6f3a5f6e7e3495796e2

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Quote from: xJuturna on January 27, 2017, 04:27:37 PM

I can do it for you without collateral if you are interested. Just get back to me when you can. I will need about 30 minutes to send the BTC from the time of this reply if you decide you want to take the loan from me.

Just sign a message from the address you would like it sent to, I will do the same after sending.

ok deal with you :
u can check my old address for verify original owner Wink

Address: 1Ny3PMgByqXfQiqEnyCo7PSitdSnWpvwui

Message: I am gembira from bitcointalk.org, today is 28/01/2017,I am asking for a loan from xJuturna with my account as collateral. If i default my loan, xJuturna will be the new owner of my account.

Signature: H4QUYZBW3q821YC+aO/bJlNZywdpQxNlK0O3BvjVJeFSGChjLYxkNj/fqoEQeoZdI8bMOjXysGrjffitO4BR6sU=

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I offered to fill the loan with no collateral so I'm a bit confused. Anyway, no big deal

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Quote from: xJuturna on January 27, 2017, 05:46:28 PM

Thanks for the advice, this will only be the second loan I've ever fulfilled so it's much appreciated. That sounds fair to me...

After PMing with OP it seems he doesn't trust me so this loan still has yet to be filled.

If OP agrees, you could use a trusted escrow to hold the account, or whatever collateral there is.

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Quote from: zazarb on January 27, 2017, 05:32:01 PM

Quote from: xJuturna on January 27, 2017, 04:27:37 PM

I can do it for you without collateral if you are interested. Just get back to me when you can. I will need about 30 minutes to send the BTC from the time of this reply if you decide you want to take the loan from me.

Just sign a message from the address you would like it sent to, I will do the same after sending.

@xJuturna
you should ask OP sign message with oldest possible btc address posted here, to be sure that you lend to original owner.

Thanks for the advice, this will only be the second loan I've ever fulfilled so it's much appreciated. That sounds fair to me...

After PMing with OP it seems he doesn't trust me so this loan still has yet to be filled.

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Quote from: xJuturna on January 27, 2017, 04:27:37 PM

I can do it for you without collateral if you are interested. Just get back to me when you can. I will need about 30 minutes to send the BTC from the time of this reply if you decide you want to take the loan from me.

Just sign a message from the address you would like it sent to, I will do the same after sending.

@xJuturna
you should ask OP sign message with oldest possible btc address posted here, to be sure that you lend to original owner.

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I can do it for you without collateral if you are interested. Just get back to me when you can. I will need about 30 minutes to send the BTC from the time of this reply if you decide you want to take the loan from me.

Just sign a message from the address you would like it sent to, I will do the same after sending.

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hey guys,i need loan 0.01btc
collateral : my account to trusted members

thanks Cool

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