Topic: 1 Avalon bacth 2 ready to ship, NO RESERVE (Read 2949 times)
Is not the auction closed long ago without yielding anything to anyone? Or will it continue to run as i m still seeing replies.
Please show us your original block chain payment for the units you brought from Avalon.
yeah. I bet he is a scammer as well. Shady business for sure!
In one of the other threads where he was trying to "sell" this, it was revealed that someone put down a deposit of 10 BTC. He's still waiting for a refund...
This guy is a scammer. He says he does not trust anyone, but expects the buyer to trust him.
In one of the other threads where he was trying to "sell" this, it was revealed that someone put down a deposit of 10 BTC. He's still waiting for a refund...
This auction turned in a way I am not happy with.
I can see no pictures with proofs and hence I am out.
Sorry.
I can see no pictures with proofs and hence I am out.
Sorry.
Superbitcoin, are you still selling? Beside fighting here, I can't see nor bid prices, nor photo confirmation of you owning the Asics.
Regards
Surp I think you are better off just taking that real in person order you said that you already had an in person buyer in your area so why even try and auction it? Take whatever money you can get out of it locally because way too many people have been scammed here.
I totally understand dude, that's why my offer is not for everyone, and that's cool, I just don't like being called a scammer when I am on the up and up.
Surp
The up and up lol. Up and up on the rise to be the king of scammers?
I`ve already reported you to the mods, you have no basis for these accusations. Hopefully you`ll get banned or something.
May want to use some logical. I was the one trying to get a deal to happen while you on the otherhand just refuse to use escrow and want me to pay to visit you
When you escrow, there are terms in that escrow for what happens if it does not arrive or is lost, etc. But, if that is REALLY the concern, just escrow and have it picked up in person. The excuses just are not making sense at this point.
Surp I think you are better off just taking that real in person order you said that you already had an in person buyer in your area so why even try and auction it? Take whatever money you can get out of it locally because way too many people have been scammed here.
I totally understand dude, that's why my offer is not for everyone, and that's cool, I just don't like being called a scammer when I am on the up and up.
Surp
The up and up lol. Up and up on the rise to be the king of scammers?
I`ve already reported you to the mods, you have no basis for these accusations. Hopefully you`ll get banned or something.
Surp I think you are better off just taking that real in person order you said that you already had an in person buyer in your area so why even try and auction it? Take whatever money you can get out of it locally because way too many people have been scammed here.
I totally understand dude, that's why my offer is not for everyone, and that's cool, I just don't like being called a scammer when I am on the up and up.
Surp
The up and up lol. Up and up on the rise to be the king of scammers?
Surp I think you are better off just taking that real in person order you said that you already had an in person buyer in your area so why even try and auction it? Take whatever money you can get out of it locally because way too many people have been scammed here.
I totally understand dude, that's why my offer is not for everyone, and that's cool, I just don't like being called a scammer when I am on the up and up.
Surp
Your pics don't even prove that YOU own avalons. it could be someone elses pics.
Surp I think you are better off just taking that real in person order you said that you already had an in person buyer in your area so why even try and auction it? Take whatever money you can get out of it locally because way too many people have been scammed here.
He doesnt have a real buyer its all fake
Did your magic crystal ball tell you this, if so its time to upgrade, or clean it off!
Your terms are too risky for a buyer. and you forget we are real people, with real money to lose as well. I think you should just tell to whomever this person is willing to buy in person that you keep talking about.
Maybe so, maybe they are to risky for you but not to risky for another, which I believe to be true because I`m working out the arrangement now with a buyer from here.
I have done whats needed, I posed pics, I don't have any bad rep on here, its my terms and I like it that way. Im sorry its `too risky`for some.
He doesnt have a real buyer its all fake
Your terms are too risky for a buyer. and you forget we are real people, with real money to lose as well. I think you should just tell to whomever this person is willing to buy in person that you keep talking about.
We wont buy from you..there are other people selling avalons with better terms. so we aren't hurting.
Awesome, it does not bother me, I just want a transaction on my terms. That's it that's all.
We wont buy from you..there are other people selling avalons with better terms. so we aren't hurting.
as stated ship it to the escrow have them verify the unit is in the box then escrow released and the unit reshipped to me
no dude, you can just fuck off, calling me a scammer, your just a dreamer, a wisher he had a avalon.
I don't play games, I offer my items for my terms, nobody has to buy from me, if they choose to great, but because I wont budge from my terms ima scammer..
fuck off dude!
THIS IS REAL LIFE..YOU NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
Easy solution: Require an in-person visit (as someone already offered) and escrow the *DEPOSIT* of 10 BTC, that way if they don't buy, you get 5BTC or 10 BTC or whatever the terms are. Nothing to lose, easy money.
so I get 10 btc put to escrow, I hold the rig and deny real life buyers to buy it from me, then they guy never comes through for whatever reason and I go back to my real life buyer and try to sell it to him but...opus.. he already bought one and has no money to buy from me... so I would lose the buyer and make 10 BTC.. I think not.
as stated ship it to the escrow have them verify the unit is in the box then escrow released and the unit reshipped to me
And the fact is he could still be legit, but being too overly cautious. Sure it mostly points to scam. But he could be legit. His terms are turning off potential buyers. since hes not worried about it and has someone in the "real world" he should just sell to them. Let me also be clear that this is all very real to us, real money, real btc. we are real as well.
Just a little story to tell, maybe some of you will learn from this,
One day a friend of a friend ordered some "items" online in a venue similar to this.
He shipped the item using UPS, and the item got "lost" it was scanned in by ups and had a few scans throughout the shipping process but supposedly never made it to the buyer,
After fighting with UPS my friends friend was told there was nothing he can do about it and that the item was lost and not the fault of UPS, (I fucking hate UPS BTW)
to make a long story short, my friends friend did some research and found that what he sold was being listed on craigslist in the same area as the buyer, he did more investigation and contacted the seller of the items... Guess what??
It ended up being the buyer he shipped to who was selling the items, even told my friends friend, who he thought was a real buyer that he scammed the items through a friend of his who worked for ups...
He contacted ups with this info and the driver got fired for delivering the item without scanning it in, in essence robbing my buddys friend.
I REFUSE TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN TO ME!
One day a friend of a friend ordered some "items" online in a venue similar to this.
He shipped the item using UPS, and the item got "lost" it was scanned in by ups and had a few scans throughout the shipping process but supposedly never made it to the buyer,
After fighting with UPS my friends friend was told there was nothing he can do about it and that the item was lost and not the fault of UPS, (I fucking hate UPS BTW)
to make a long story short, my friends friend did some research and found that what he sold was being listed on craigslist in the same area as the buyer, he did more investigation and contacted the seller of the items... Guess what??
It ended up being the buyer he shipped to who was selling the items, even told my friends friend, who he thought was a real buyer that he scammed the items through a friend of his who worked for ups...
He contacted ups with this info and the driver got fired for delivering the item without scanning it in, in essence robbing my buddys friend.
I REFUSE TO HAVE THIS HAPPEN TO ME!
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Me being a Jr member has nothing to do with it. Sure I am new to this site, but ive been day trading bitcoins for over 3 months now. I research and learn every day. So I know plenty.
Thanks Jr Member!
Well you just go ahead and doubt the buyers..cause many many of us buyers, doubt you!
Thanks Jr Member!
In your defense, it doesn't take even a newbie to know that this is a set-up.
Me being a Jr member has nothing to do with it. Sure I am new to this site, but ive been day trading bitcoins for over 3 months now. I research and learn every day. So I know plenty.
Thanks Jr Member!
Well you just go ahead and doubt the buyers..cause many many of us buyers, doubt you!
Thanks Jr Member!
damn it matt you took the words out of my mouth. I was about to link everyone over to that thread and warn them. Dude is 100% a scammer and i dont recommened anyone to deal with him unless you getting 200% escrow 
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Easy solution: Require an in-person visit (as someone already offered) and escrow the *DEPOSIT* of 10 BTC, that way if they don't buy, you get 5BTC or 10 BTC or whatever the terms are. Nothing to lose, easy money.
Well you just go ahead and doubt the buyers..cause many many of us buyers, doubt you!
Thanks Jr Member!
Well you just go ahead and doubt the buyers..cause many many of us buyers, doubt you!
Its not like the buyer can call--anyone for their 10BTC (or more) back.
Plus, in the crazy-ass event that something ever did go wrong with a John K escrow, you could bring the whole thing to here and probably work it out. He seems like a VERY straight shooting guy, with NO REASON at all for anyone to doubt him. Their is simply no reason whatsoever to NOT do escrow other than to scam people, especially for something this expensive. Like you said, the unit is not replaceable--neither is the money to buy it.
It's like a condom--protection for both of you
Plus, in the crazy-ass event that something ever did go wrong with a John K escrow, you could bring the whole thing to here and probably work it out. He seems like a VERY straight shooting guy, with NO REASON at all for anyone to doubt him. Their is simply no reason whatsoever to NOT do escrow other than to scam people, especially for something this expensive. Like you said, the unit is not replaceable--neither is the money to buy it.
It's like a condom--protection for both of you
OMG, I don't doubt JohnK.
I doubt the buyers!
Its not like the buyer can call--anyone for their 10BTC (or more) back.
Plus, in the crazy-ass event that something ever did go wrong with a John K escrow, you could bring the whole thing to here and probably work it out. He seems like a VERY straight shooting guy, with NO REASON at all for anyone to doubt him. Their is simply no reason whatsoever to NOT do escrow other than to scam people, especially for something this expensive. Like you said, the unit is not replaceable--neither is the money to buy it.
It's like a condom--protection for both of you
Plus, in the crazy-ass event that something ever did go wrong with a John K escrow, you could bring the whole thing to here and probably work it out. He seems like a VERY straight shooting guy, with NO REASON at all for anyone to doubt him. Their is simply no reason whatsoever to NOT do escrow other than to scam people, especially for something this expensive. Like you said, the unit is not replaceable--neither is the money to buy it.
It's like a condom--protection for both of you
We understand what your saying..you may be a scam..and you may not be a scam. but you have lots of people def backing out cause of your terms.
Its ok, I have real life offers that come within 1500 CAD of what I`m asking here.
Surp
We understand what your saying..you may be a scam..and you may not be a scam. but you have lots of people def backing out cause of your terms.
I am new, but from what I have seen, John K is the man for escrow. Why would you not want to do this? What reasoning is there to not protect you AND the buyer?
I have seen escrow screw the seller, maybe not through Johnk, as I know his rep is rock hard. But I`m not willing to take chances, its not like I can call Avalon and buy a new one.
Surp
I am new, but from what I have seen, John K is the man for escrow. Why would you not want to do this? What reasoning is there to not protect you AND the buyer?
Hah..don't trust escrow, and want 10 btc to just come by? Delusional.
Its not like im selling a laptop, that could be bought at any store, if I lose the unit its gone, I cant call Avalon and order another one, this is a money printing machine, and a rare one at that,
If you don't wanna trust me, fine, but don't bust my balls because you don't agree with me or my terms.
Hah..don't trust escrow, and want 10 btc to just come by? Delusional.
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If someone is able to visit your house *right now* and you still want a deposit first, you're a scammer.
If someone offers escrow and you don't trust *anyone* for that, you're a scammer.
If someone offers escrow and you don't trust *anyone* for that, you're a scammer.
Nobody said they were coming now, if they were though, I`d still want a 10 BTC deposit.
Sorry for the spam, fucking auction threads don't let you edit your posts
That doesn't mean that it doesn't smell horribly fishy to even say "I don't trust escrow". There is literally no one on this entire forum you trust for escrow?
Sorry Surp, I call scam.
You`re entitled to your own opinion, that does not make it correct though.
If someone is able to visit your house *right now* and you still want a deposit first, you're a scammer.
If someone offers escrow and you don't trust *anyone* for that, you're a scammer.
If someone offers escrow and you don't trust *anyone* for that, you're a scammer.
Nobody said they were coming now, if they were though, I`d still want a 10 BTC deposit.
Well if it aint the pot calling the kettle black.
It sold yesterday,
I have many, if you saw the pics you would know.
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If someone is able to visit your house *right now* and you still want a deposit first, you're a scammer.
If someone offers escrow and you don't trust *anyone* for that, you're a scammer.
If someone offers escrow and you don't trust *anyone* for that, you're a scammer.
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Sorry Surp, I call scam.
Just a form question but a 50 BTC starting bid and 'no reserve' seems a little odd. Technically the reserve is 50 BTC if that is the lowest price you are willing to sell it for, no?
I guess your right, 50 is the reserve then. My bad.
Just a form question but a 50 BTC starting bid and 'no reserve' seems a little odd. Technically the reserve is 50 BTC if that is the lowest price you are willing to sell it for, no?
A questions, sir.
Since there is no escrow, can I pick it up locally tomorrow for 100% of the winning auction bid?
Since there is no escrow, can I pick it up locally tomorrow for 100% of the winning auction bid?
Provided you leave a 10 BTC deposit to me tonight, yes.
I have local friends and friends of friends who are willing to buy it now, LIVE! I wont hold it for nothing, doing so may cause me to lose a real life buyer.
Hope you understand.
Surp
A questions, sir.
Since there is no escrow, can I pick it up locally tomorrow for 100% of the winning auction bid?
Since there is no escrow, can I pick it up locally tomorrow for 100% of the winning auction bid?
I'd offer 50 BTC with 100% escrow through John K... Ship with delivery confirmation/signature required and take pictures of box being packed up, and you should have all the proof you need to get the funds released once the package arrives, if the buyer wanted to try and claim the package didn't arrive/wasn't as advertised.
Please read the OP again, there is no point of bidding if you don't agree with MY terms!
Surp
I'd offer 50 BTC with 100% escrow through John K... Ship with delivery confirmation/signature required and take pictures of box being packed up, and you should have all the proof you need to get the funds released once the package arrives, if the buyer wanted to try and claim the package didn't arrive/wasn't as advertised.
Nice setup BUT that could be anyones pics. you have to write your screen name and date on a piece of paper and show that in the pics with the Avalon.
Thanks, i'm working on that now, I'm not with the units so I have to ask someone else to do it for me as they work and have a job it may not be till later that it gets done.
Nice setup BUT that could be anyones pics. you have to write your screen name and date on a piece of paper and show that in the pics with the Avalon.
Thanks.
Then please place here or send me PM with links to photos (imgur.com can be used for example).
I would like to see
- proof that you have the item
- proof that it is working as expected (hash rate)
Please include time stamp and your nick name on all pictures.
Then please place here or send me PM with links to photos (imgur.com can be used for example).
I would like to see
- proof that you have the item
- proof that it is working as expected (hash rate)
Please include time stamp and your nick name on all pictures.
where is the item located?
Thank you for your answer. The only way I might be interested in non-100% escrow mode is to go "standard way", which means legally claimable contract with high penalty set for both sides in case of violation, this verified by notary before any funds or goods go out. Any chances for this?
Yes, I have no problem with this, if you wish to write a contract, I can print it out, take it to a notary, sign it get it stamped and fax or e-mail it back.
Surp
Thank you for your answer. The only way I might be interested in non-100% escrow mode is to go "standard way", which means legally claimable contract with high penalty set for both sides in case of violation, this verified by notary before any funds or goods go out. Any chances for this?
any chances for 100 % escrow?
Not possible, I'll explain it now so the question does not keep coming up.
I do not fully trust escrow, I want to make sure I have something in my wallet before shipping.
Thanks for asking though.
Surp
any chances for 100 % escrow?
"Ok guys, here it is, a one day auction with no reserve for a batch 2 Avalon in hand and ready to ship"
"Shipping cost is on the buyer and I'll expect to be paid in BTC for shipping once the unit arrives, no need to escrow that"
so in one sentence your saying its ready to ship. in the other your saying once the unit arrives. Which is it? I think its time you post pics of the unit with your forum name on it and date. thanks
"Shipping cost is on the buyer and I'll expect to be paid in BTC for shipping once the unit arrives, no need to escrow that"
so in one sentence your saying its ready to ship. in the other your saying once the unit arrives. Which is it? I think its time you post pics of the unit with your forum name on it and date. thanks
Sorry for the confusion, what I mean is I'll cover the shipping cost to you, and once you get it I'll expect to be paid back for the shipping.
also, I cant figure out how to post pics, if you are interested please leave your e-mail address and I'll send some over.
Once again, sorry for the confusion.
Surp
"Ok guys, here it is, a one day auction with no reserve for a batch 2 Avalon in hand and ready to ship"
"Shipping cost is on the buyer and I'll expect to be paid in BTC for shipping once the unit arrives, no need to escrow that"
so in one sentence your saying its ready to ship. in the other your saying once the unit arrives. Which is it? I think its time you post pics of the unit with your forum name on it and date. thanks
"Shipping cost is on the buyer and I'll expect to be paid in BTC for shipping once the unit arrives, no need to escrow that"
so in one sentence your saying its ready to ship. in the other your saying once the unit arrives. Which is it? I think its time you post pics of the unit with your forum name on it and date. thanks
Ok guys, here it is, a one day auction with no reserve for a batch 2 Avalon in hand and ready to ship.
Pics available on request.
starting bids at 50 BTC
bid increments of 1 BTC.
Auction will end today at 6 PM EST.
winner will get the unit for 50 BTC if that's the high bid.
50% of the winning bid must be paid to me tonight at 6 PM, the remaining 50% must be in escrow tonight as well.
I'd post a pic in the thread but cant figure out how...
Shipping cost is on the buyer and I'll expect to be paid in BTC for shipping once the unit arrives, no need to escrow that.
Good luck.
Surp
Pics available on request.
starting bids at 50 BTC
bid increments of 1 BTC.
Auction will end today at 6 PM EST.
winner will get the unit for 50 BTC if that's the high bid.
50% of the winning bid must be paid to me tonight at 6 PM, the remaining 50% must be in escrow tonight as well.
I'd post a pic in the thread but cant figure out how...
Shipping cost is on the buyer and I'll expect to be paid in BTC for shipping once the unit arrives, no need to escrow that.
Good luck.
Surp
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