Topic: 10 Amazing Acts Of Defiance Throughout History (Read 6030 times)

Dinamo Zagreb versus Red Star Belgrade (1990)
Yugoslavia was already on the brink of imploding by the time Serbia's Red Star Belgrade played Croatia's Dinamo Zagreb at the latter's Maksimir Stadium. Pro- independence parties had already won recent Croatian elections. But the events that unfolded on March 13, 1990 are regarded by many as the opening salvo of the most vicious European war since the Nazis were defeated in 1945.
During the match, future AC Milan and Croatia captain Zvonimir Boban launched a kung-fu kick at a policeman who was attacking a Zagreb fan. Riots broke out between Zagreb's "Bad Blue Boys" ultra group, and Red Star's "Delije" -- led by the brutal war-lord Arkan.
Arkan's Tiger's, the paramilitary group he ruled during the war, recruited heavily from the Delije. Arkan himself was indicted by the United Nations for war crimes, but was assassinated in 2000 before he stood trial. Later, Boban explained what was going through his head.
"Here I was, a public face prepared to risk his life, career and everything that fame could have brought, all because of one ideal cause: the Croatian cause."
For the rest of the soon-to-be-non-existent country, it was a symbolic moment. "It was the most important match in Yugoslav history," explains Dr. Neven Andjelic, author of "Bosnia-Herzegovina: The End of a Legacy."
"It has political implications and is a clear sign of the forthcoming violence and war that this unfinished match provided to the population."
The war went on to rage for five years, with the International Center for Transnational Justice estimating that 140,000 people were killed. Its effects are still evident today, not least outside the Maksimir Stadium, where a statue depicting a group of soldiers stands. On it is the inscription: "To the fans of the club, who started the war with Serbia at this ground on May 13, 1990."

Later, Boban explained what was going through his head.
"Here I was, a public face prepared to risk his life, career and everything that fame could have brought, all because of one ideal cause: the Croatian cause."

He was very foolish, and (like I said) it is good he did not kill/harm other people.
"...thinking that setting himself on fire would change a thing."
Apparently, his stunt did change things by motivating others to take action, but that doesn't mean he couldn't have found a better way.
RIP, and let's hope he doesn't inspire more suicide flamers.

Sorry but I think the guy was a compleat idiot for thinking that setting himself on fire would change a thing.

He would have been much better off CONTRIBUTING instead of going up in flames like a Fourth of July sparkler!

I don't watch the news every day and had not heard about Mohamed Bouazizi: "Defiant" is one way to describe what he did, at least it looks like no one else was hurt. If anyone want to know more, here is a brief part of a documentary:
Mohammed Bouazizi. A tunisian martyr.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHw_auqod6Y

Edit: He had been working to support his family since he was only 10 years old, and here at bitcointalk.org we have "spoiled" people who freak out when the BTC price goes down. We should pause to remember how lucky we are.

That is Mohamed Bouazizi of Tunisia, the street vendor who set himself on fire. The incident triggered the Arab Spring. Feels bad for him... he was just 26 years old when he died.

If you stop and think about that, it is obviously wrong.
Both sides in a war lie to make their own part look better.
Look at what is happening in the Ukraine now. The Ukranian version and the Russian version can't both be right, can they? So at least one side is lying, and that is with all the modern communication methods we have available now.
Then, Josephus could have said anything he wanted to his own people, chances are the Romans would never have heard about it, and if they had contradicted him, he would have just said that they were lying.


If only 28 bodies were found, a reasonably conclusion is that either there weren't any more than that to start with, or that there were, but most of them got away.
You are starting from an assumption that there were a thousand people resisting in the first place. That isn't a known fact.

tank man blocking tanks after china declared martial law and killed civilians.


burning monk burned himself to death to protest persecution of buddhist monks, he did not move or make a sound.

If you stop and think about that, it is obviously wrong.
Both sides in a war lie to make their own part look better.
Look at what is happening in the Ukraine now. The Ukranian version and the Russian version can't both be right, can they? So at least one side is lying, and that is with all the modern communication methods we have available now.
Then, Josephus could have said anything he wanted to his own people, chances are the Romans would never have heard about it, and if they had contradicted him, he would have just said that they were lying.


If only 28 bodies were found, a reasonably conclusion is that either there weren't any more than that to start with, or that there were, but most of them got away.
You are starting from an assumption that there were a thousand people resisting in the first place. That isn't a known fact.

But since he was writing on the time of the facts, when many Romans that were there were alive, he couldn't lie much.

I was expecting some new facts, but your links basically give speculation. And none of them negates the mass suicide. We basically don't know what happened.

Yes, the story was changed for political reasons. Some crazy assassins, mostly of fellow Jews, were converted on heroes. But they also resisted the Romans, we don't know how much, and many refused to be taken alive.

It's well known that the archaeologists only found 28 skeletons. But since it's clear that 28 persons, including women and children, couldn't resist the Romans, many bodies are missing.

The Salt march and getting beating by soldiers with Ghandi that was also defiant in my book.  There is movie on it by the way.

I did. And I quoted my source. The burden of proof is in your side.

Well.. the Persians invaded the Greeks and the Greeks fought back to expel the invaders. How can we blame the Greeks for defending their homeland? As long as there are loonies who want to invade the weaker nations, we will witness similar wars.

Josephus was part, and therefore was a direct witness, of a suicidal pact after the fall of Jotapata (Yodfat) (67 CE), where several defenders killed each other. Josephus was the last one, breached the pact, and surrender to the Romans, as he confessed on his book The Wars of the Jews. So, these kind of pacts were common. Maybe the numbers envolved were false, but the all history?

Much of the whole suicide theory has been debunked.

I doubt it.

Humankind is an agressive, territorial and highly combative species.

The Jews have a history of resistance against the Romans with pretty defiant situations.

Think about Masada (73 CE). Josephus wrote a vivid description, saying that, after a stubborn resistance, the defenders, about 1000, decided to kill them selves in order to avoid being captured alive.
Archaeological findings didn't confirm this numbers, but found structures used by the Romans to breach the walls.

Here is another. Meriam Yahya Ibrahim Ishag sentenced to death by stoning, for refusing to convert to Islam. Her husband is an American citizen, but there has been no help from the United States authorities so far.

As a side note about "tank man". That image is almost completely unknown in China. That is how clamped down the government is there.

Well.. the Persians invaded the Greeks and the Greeks fought back to expel the invaders. How can we blame the Greeks for defending their homeland? As long as there are loonies who want to invade the weaker nations, we will witness similar wars.

I doubt it.

Humankind is an agressive, territorial and highly combative species.

That is exciting but horrific. Will mankind ever learn how to avoid brutal wars?

That is exciting but horrific. Will mankind ever learn how to avoid brutal wars?

The Battle of Plataea is considered as the final major battle during the Persian invasion of Greece. It forms a part of the Persian invasion. So we can say that the Greeks actually defeated the Persians and repelled the invasion. Battle of Plataea was very devastating for the Persians... they lost more than 250,000 men.

Things didn't end there. Xerxes and the Persian army managed to burn Athens and only after the naval battle of Salamis were defeated. Well, actually, after that, Athens was again conquered by the Persians under Mardonius. Only with the battle of Plataea (479 BC) they were expelled from Greece.

People urgently needing to leave Egypt or Chad would have a motivation to try Sudan.
Is it a place you would like?
Variety is the spice of life, but too much spice can cause digestive issues.

People urgently needing to leave Egypt or Chad would have a motivation to try Sudan.
Is it a place you would like?
Variety is the spice of life, but too much spice can cause digestive issues.

I mean, like, who would want to go there anyway?

For the start, Obama could open up his mouth and condemn the death sentence imposed on the unfortunate woman. We can think about sanctions and embargoes later, if the Sudanese ignore the warnings.

I was curious what country:
"A Sudanese court has sentenced Mariam Yahya Ibrahim Ishag, 27..."
Sudan? Wow, I will be certain to stay away from there.

For the start, Obama could open up his mouth and condemn the death sentence imposed on the unfortunate woman. We can think about sanctions and embargoes later, if the Sudanese ignore the warnings.

OK, I agree that this is a bad situation but just what is it that you think the USA should do?

Here is another. Meriam Yahya Ibrahim Ishag sentenced to death by stoning, for refusing to convert to Islam. Her husband is an American citizen, but there has been no help from the United States authorities so far.

I was curious what country:
"A Sudanese court has sentenced Mariam Yahya Ibrahim Ishag, 27..."
Sudan? Wow, I will be certain to stay away from there.

Here is another. Meriam Yahya Ibrahim Ishag sentenced to death by stoning, for refusing to convert to Islam. Her husband is an American citizen, but there has been no help from the United States authorities so far.

Ever heard about the Tank man from China?



Well.... here is an image from Mariupol, of a civilian trying to stop a Right Sector-controlled tank. No idea what happened to him afterwards.

I don't think that is in humanity's future.

I don't think that is in humanity's future.

I don't think that is in humanity's future.

I heard on the radio.
Very sorry you were so close to that.
Someday, the world will hopefully be safer and more peaceful.

Someday, the world will hopefully be safer and more peaceful.

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In my town things went to shit today as some Neo-Nazi shot up a couple of Jewish places and killed some people:

http://www.kctv5.com/story/25235053/shooting-reported-at-overland-park-jewish-community-center

A very bad deal.

My $.02.

Who could ever forget Tank Man, that unknown man who stood in front of all those tanks at Tiananmen Square? As epic as that act of defiance was, there are other classic examples that are spun from the same material as Tank Man’s story. The amazing acts of defiance listed below are veritable legends and, as such, deserve their own rightful place in history.

The Man Who Refused To Do The Nazi Salute


The Woman Who Brushed Off A Bayonet


more: http://listverse.com/2014/04/02/10-amazing-acts-of-defiance-throughout-history

How are things in your town these days?

Is this the same person who was run over?

Hippies. Choose, America. War and self-destruction, or peace and prosperity. The message of this iconic images needs to be repeated these days.

tank man blocking tanks after china declared martial law and killed civilians.
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