Topic: 100 BTC trust roulette (Read 8385 times)

I did play online quite a bit until I lost a few thousand when the government came in and "helped us all out" by shutting the site down and taking all of my money.

I heard recently that PokerStars had bought Full Tilt and were going to make all the Full Tilt players whole.

Hey does that Micon character play online poker for BTC at any of the online BTC poker sites?

I believe he's in some way invested in Seals With Clubs. He's a "pro" on Seals, and some claim he's a part owner of the site. This thread for instance starts by claiming Micon owns part of Seals, and quickly degenerates into a "bitcoin sucks" thread.

OH GOD WHY DID YOU LINK TO THAT THREAD Cry

THE STUPIDITY... IT HURTS MY FACE

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I did play online quite a bit until I lost a few thousand when the government came in and "helped us all out" by shutting the site down and taking all of my money.

I heard recently that PokerStars had bought Full Tilt and were going to make all the Full Tilt players whole.

Quote from: Darkzen on August 06, 2012, 04:36:05 PM

Hey does that Micon character play online poker for BTC at any of the online BTC poker sites?

I believe he's in some way invested in Seals With Clubs. He's a "pro" on Seals, and some claim he's a part owner of the site. This thread for instance starts by claiming Micon owns part of Seals, and quickly degenerates into a "bitcoin sucks" thread.

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Can I hold it for a week so I can make my 6.9% Grin

Not doing this type of gambling anymore because a lot of my BTC are now tied up in this bet: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/--97094

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Quote from: crosby on August 06, 2012, 04:20:19 PM

BurtW,

You seem to be a bit of a gambler. How about some poker some time, I know a great site. Wink

I did play online quite a bit until I lost a few thousand when the government came in and "helped us all out" by shutting the site down and taking all of my money.

I have not tried to play online since that day. However, I may go and try to play for BTC when I get some so called free time.

Hey does that Micon character play online poker for BTC at any of the online BTC poker sites?

That gives me an idea.

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Can I hold it for a week so I can make my 6.9% Grin

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#RIP freemoney

BurtW,

You seem to be a bit of a gambler. How about some poker some time, I know a great site. Wink

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Hmm, interesting idea, some variant of this idea might be worth doing. I will think on this a bit.

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why not do this with 50 BTC, and put 50BTC into say PPT (yes just as risky)

Set the roulette going, max time you can hold money is for X days.

Then after Y days, profit from PPT compounded is split among all players, e.g. 7 weeks of PPT of 50BTC would let you give each person who didnt run 0.5BTC.

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This was a very interesting thread to watch. The incentive to take the 100 BTC seems great because you wouldn't even be labeled a scammer for it. But, you would essentially be writing off any chance of regaining a solid reputation.

Are reputations worth 100 BTC to some people? Yes. How many? Who knows.

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Whew!

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Quote from: payb.tc on July 15, 2012, 07:27:35 AM

Quote from: BurtW on July 15, 2012, 07:20:10 AM

Quote from: payb.tc on July 15, 2012, 07:27:35 AM

^^ cheers... PM'd someone with an invite to this thread

payb.tc, Do you have someone in mind or are you going to send them back?

might just have to send them back, sorry to spoil the fun.

for the record, i PM'd Graet, but he must be out weekend partying or something.

okay this is a little embarrassing, but i just realised today that i accidentally got

Graet

mixed up with

CIYAM Pty Ltd

both grey-beard aussies, and apparently both about the same age. i'm fairly sure Graet is a trustworthy guy anyway, but that could have been an expensive mistake.

probably a good thing that i sent the coins back to burt!

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I’ll just leave this here:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0

The entire trading sub forum makes you nervous? Or were you trying to give a more specific link? Or, hmm, I guess I just do not follow the meaning of the link.

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Quote from: BurtW on July 15, 2012, 07:20:10 AM

Quote from: BurtW on July 15, 2012, 07:20:10 AM

^^ cheers... PM'd someone with an invite to this thread

payb.tc, Do you have someone in mind or are you going to send them back?

might just have to send them back, sorry to spoil the fun.

for the record, i PM'd Graet, but he must be out weekend partying or something.

Thanks everyone!

Well that was fun and interesting. Should we do it again? If so do you have any proposals for rule changes?

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^^ cheers... PM'd someone with an invite to this thread

payb.tc, Do you have someone in mind or are you going to send them back?

might just have to send them back, sorry to spoil the fun.

for the record, i PM'd Graet, but he must be out weekend partying or something.

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Quote from: Otoh on July 14, 2012, 07:19:20 PM

^^ cheers... PM'd someone with an invite to this thread

payb.tc, Do you have someone in mind or are you going to send them back?

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This is going to end so bad...

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It might be an equally fun side game to list who you wouldn’t send it to.

I wouldn’t send it to Matthew N. Wright only because his concept of time is skewed. Oh, you’d get it back but he would read six hours as six months.

I also wouldn’t send it to Vladimir Marchenko because he would invest it in a ASIC farm or a little plastic Bitcoin card and tell you that you will thank him for it later.

I wouldn’t send it to Magical Tux because you would need to provide several proofs of identification mailed to him and then the review process would take several months because he lost your first mailing.

Good one.

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btw, if I'd have asked for the few hundred coins that I've had on loan to you since early Feb back before I sent it on would you have returned them?

Would you like to try again and find out? Wink

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^^ cheers... PM'd someone with an invite to this thread

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Quote from: payb.tc on July 14, 2012, 04:29:46 AM

you know, it would only take 6 steps or less to get the 100 btc over to kevin bacon.

and from there, who knows what kind of low-life will end up with them.

p.s. i'll play custodian for a while: 17dR4ac33UvNQPbSsckL6yGZRGmnaeGt68

actually I was out partying & must have left just before you sent the booty, anyway I survived so passing to payb.tc

https://blockchain.info/tx-index/12198253/215cd951efe7e63823ef341e7156f0f92af650597d7c06c6a66af3d25a8b6508

btw, if I'd have asked for the few hundred coins that I've had on loan to you since early Feb back before I sent it on would you have returned them?

PS - glad that the OP was changed to 24 hrs because I was only partying to 2.30am & that was like 7 hrs afk & it could easily of been to 5am +

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Quote from: imsaguy on July 14, 2012, 12:09:20 PM

Quote from: Otoh on July 14, 2012, 05:03:02 AM

hey imsa or payb.tc, trust in me Tongue

trusssssst...

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Sent b097ba24b97f16f583c957e29f990efbb15704d32befa8d682a8a41e5c9c9afd

Hiya imsa,

Cool as, while waiting for the confirmations I'm just off for a spot of white water rafting that I'd planned for this weekend after I've done the base jumps, see you'll latter - touch wood

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I will track the path in the OP so you can check there to see the status. I changed the rule so that if you cannot find someone you totally trust within 24 hours you should send it back to me.

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Quote from: payb.tc on July 14, 2012, 04:29:46 AM

you know, it would only take 6 steps or less to get the 100 btc over to kevin bacon.

and from there, who knows what kind of low-life will end up with them.

p.s. i'll play custodian for a while: 17dR4ac33UvNQPbSsckL6yGZRGmnaeGt68

Its not that I don't trust you, I just started with the last post and worked my way up.

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Quote from: Otoh on July 14, 2012, 05:03:02 AM

hey imsa or payb.tc, trust in me Tongue

trusssssst...

1G5apmPvo2iTtmkNWAHTCET7Y842Ufijs8

Sent b097ba24b97f16f583c957e29f990efbb15704d32befa8d682a8a41e5c9c9afd

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Quote from: nimda on July 14, 2012, 10:22:57 AM

Does Otoh have it yet? I'm sure if he ran off with the coins hashking could just return some of the coins Otoh has on deposit to the OP

But, but - that'd be stealing & breach of contract by HK.
I'd have 6 hours to withdraw them from HK first anyway if I was going to do a runner & a smoke screen like that would be ideal to encourage trust, just sayin' Wink

& nope I haven't got it yet Tongue

Edit: Oh shit, no I couldn't they're locked in for 8 weeks, unless I could persuade him that I made a mistake & he agreed to cancel the contract & refund.

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I'm in too, interesting to see if some random person trusts me.
Same as the 1-btc-circle, 155gBnpiBQcpnP6coTX6V7znSK3G73uNjK

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Does Otoh have it yet? I'm sure if he ran off with the coins hashking could just return some of the coins Otoh has on deposit to the OP

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Away on an extended break

Quote from: mystery2048 on July 14, 2012, 06:38:55 AM

This game is stupid, you should play with 10 BTC instead... not that I would participate as nobody would trust me anyway...

Wow, you're so clever this time. I'm astounded!! Shocked

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Quote from: mystery2048 on July 14, 2012, 06:38:55 AM

not that I would participate as nobody would trust me anyway...

correct. I had to unignore just to see what bs you posted this time.

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This game is stupid, you should play with 10 BTC instead... not that I would participate as nobody would trust me anyway...

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Quote from: Otoh on July 14, 2012, 05:17:42 AM

Me -> my sock puppet 1 -> my sock puppet 2

I don't quite follow this, if sock puppet 2 defaults then wouldn't sock puppet 1 be the one on the line & Me in the clear?

This could be solved if so by passing the responsibility back up the line, if SP2 fails to pass on the coins then SP1 is liable, but if SP1 also fails to reimburse the OP then Me is liable.

that's the idea. So better make sure your sock puppets pay up. ;p

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Quote from: Garr255 on July 13, 2012, 10:48:35 PM

Quote from: finkleshnorts on July 13, 2012, 10:48:05 PM

But what if "trusted" person sends to fake person #1 then to fake person#2 then fake person #3. How do you link back to the real scammer? You will be going after 3 people who dont exist.

This should be pretty obvious.

Say nobody pays up... it all goes back to Garr255 for trusting the wrong dude.

And yes, if I send it like this:

Me -> someoneItrust -> knownsock -> knownsock

then I will have to take the blame.

If it goes like this:

Me -> someoneItrust -> someoneTheytrust -> knownsock 1 -> knownsock 2

then "someoneTheytrust" is at fault

Me -> my sock puppet 1 -> my sock puppet 2

I don't quite follow this, if sock puppet 2 defaults then wouldn't sock puppet 1 be the one on the line & Me in the clear?

This could be solved if so by passing the responsibility back up the line, if SP2 fails to pass on the coins then SP1 is liable, but if SP1 also fails to reimburse the OP then Me is liable.

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hey imsa or payb.tc, trust in me Tongue

trusssssst...

1G5apmPvo2iTtmkNWAHTCET7Y842Ufijs8

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Funny!

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you know, it would only take 6 steps or less to get the 100 btc over to kevin bacon.

and from there, who knows what kind of low-life will end up with them.

p.s. i'll play custodian for a while: 17dR4ac33UvNQPbSsckL6yGZRGmnaeGt68

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What's a GPU?

No problem, guys. That's what I'm here for, right? You ever need any negativeBTC you know where to find me Wink

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Quote from: imsaguy on July 14, 2012, 12:10:30 AM

Quote from: imsaguy on July 14, 2012, 12:07:23 AM

Quote from: Garr255 on July 14, 2012, 12:07:04 AM

Sent! 1d6796f01bf309ef1ce667503d898836fb2b47ed01611af8e1ce605dfc0ad1f1

Confirmed.

Thanks to the generosity of Garr255, I can now make EIEIO.A payments tomorrow.

Thanks, Garr. I have Google Calendar keep track of Imsaguy Sundays -- best day of the bi-week.

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Quote from: imsaguy on July 14, 2012, 12:07:23 AM

Quote from: Garr255 on July 14, 2012, 12:07:04 AM

Sent! 1d6796f01bf309ef1ce667503d898836fb2b47ed01611af8e1ce605dfc0ad1f1

Confirmed.

Thanks to the generosity of Garr255, I can now make EIEIO.A payments tomorrow.

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Quote from: Garr255 on July 14, 2012, 12:07:04 AM

Sent! 1d6796f01bf309ef1ce667503d898836fb2b47ed01611af8e1ce605dfc0ad1f1

Confirmed.

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Quote from: imsaguy on July 14, 2012, 12:00:11 AM

Is this still going on? Do we need a new runner?

1AauSNjhWNycxZN26JYUHMUkYLrkkXGocA is my address for this if its still going.

Sent! 1d6796f01bf309ef1ce667503d898836fb2b47ed01611af8e1ce605dfc0ad1f1

Sorry for those ignored above; you haven't earned my / lots of other people that I've seen before's trust.

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Is this still going on? Do we need a new runner?

1AauSNjhWNycxZN26JYUHMUkYLrkkXGocA is my address for this if its still going.

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I'll play if someone trusts me. ~~1NkvgHRXZyuaWjM6wCbmuS1L7aknHzBVz9~~

Edit: Wife calling me to bed. I'm going to play a different game (hide the salami) so I can't make the six hour deadline.

LOL

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it is roulette and all...
send it to someone you dont know =)

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No

Quote from: Garr255 on July 13, 2012, 09:53:28 PM

style points

either.

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Rememer you can always just send it back and be totally off the hook. No harm no foul.

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I'll play...

Send to:

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Quote from: finkleshnorts on July 13, 2012, 11:05:55 PM

eh, just short it

Erm, no.

[WTS] 100btc @ $8 Dwolla each.
[WTT] $800 Dwolla for $800 gox

Easy BTC4.8

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Quote from: rjk on July 13, 2012, 11:04:51 PM

Quote from: Garr255 on July 13, 2012, 10:59:16 PM

rjk: you want it?

Only if I can send it to P@40 next for some interest. Grin

eh, just short it

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Quote from: Garr255 on July 13, 2012, 10:59:16 PM

rjk: you want it?

Only if I can send it to P@40 next for some interest. Grin

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rjk: you want it?

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But what if "trusted" person sends to fake person #1 then to fake person#2 then fake person #3. How do you link back to the real scammer? You will be going after 3 people who dont exist.

If you cannot think of anyone you know that would not pull this kind of scam then send it back to me.

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Quote from: finkleshnorts on July 13, 2012, 10:48:05 PM

But what if "trusted" person sends to fake person #1 then to fake person#2 then fake person #3. How do you link back to the real scammer? You will be going after 3 people who dont exist.

This should be pretty obvious.

Say nobody pays up... it all goes back to Garr255 for trusting the wrong dude.

And yes, if I send it like this:

Me -> someoneItrust -> knownsock -> knownsock

then I will have to take the blame.

If it goes like this:

Me -> someoneItrust -> someoneTheytrust -> knownsock -> knownsock

then "someoneTheytrust" is at fault

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