Topic: $100 GIVEAWAY - [3,000 TH] Bitclubpool.com Official Thread (Read 8874 times)

Bitclub, were is my payment

Legit or Philippine scam waste of time and money?

STILL No payment from Bitclubpool. They still owe me 4.57240245 BTC for week 35- 2016 mining at the pool.

Thanks Champ,

Will keep you updated.

Don't worry man.
They do pay. I've mined with them in the past and even though it may take some time to be sent out it eventually will.
If by the end of this week they haven't paid you send me a pm and I'll get in touch with one of the guys I know there to release your payment.( provide me with your BTC address payment was sent to )

Bittclub Settings:



Wallet Adr:

I think it's the Phrase "Regularly " that seems to be the problem.

LOL, did see that. It's the same BTC adress I used for a long time.

I bolded what seems important.


https://www.bitclubpool.com/index.php?p=termsofuse


TERMS OF USE

TERMS OF SERVICE
BitClub Pool Terms Of Service

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To protect your BitClub Account, keep your password confidential. You are entirely responsible for any and all activities that occurs under your BitClub Account. Do not reuse your BitClub Account password on any third-party applications. BitClub allows you to share the information from your BitClub account with third-party websites without revealing your username and password. However, BitClub will never share your information with a third-party without notifying you first and asking for your permission.

Using our Services

BitClub Pool rewards miners according to a PPLNS system with 0% fee, however transaction fees are not paid out to the miners. The fee may change at any time, but notice will be given before doing so. Any fee change will be communicated through the pools news page. The uptime of the pool or website is not guaranteed, maintenance and downtime may be required at times. Users are responsible for configuring their miners so that they will automatically reconnect, switch to all the pools we offer or a backup pool in the case of downtime.

Botnets are not welcome. Accounts with a large amount of miners connecting from different IPs may be suspended without prior notice. If we are uncertain then an investigation will be opened and the user will be notified via their configured e-mail address. If we do not receive a response your account may be suspended.

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Yes it is. A very good amount of BTC im missing...

that is 4.57240245  in USA notation correct?

So looks like trying to fix the cgminer is getting costly if this company splits.



https://blockchain.info/pools


https://www.bitclubpool.com/

is this the dead email?

Email: [email protected]

Hmmm... Wonder why Bitclubpool`s e-mail dosent work. Neither does Bitclubnetwork.
Im missing quite a big payout for a weeks mining (week 35-2016) Im missing 4,57240245 BTC

Yes they do pay.

They do not pay like most US pools in the way we are used to. Its difficult to view your payouts and even know what you will get. For example take Kano or slushes and you know what your earned. I have rented 5 th from nicehash and had to wait 3 days for a payout of well lets say I was surprised cause didn't know what I was getting. (.02 in 3 days)
Make sure you have the right bitcoin address in your profile and check it with the bitcoin block explorer. Frankly try Kano

PAYMENT HISTORY

Dashboard
 
Workers
 
Payout History
    BTC

0.00037592
0.00037800
0.00060858
0.00080066
0.00117660
0.00277028
etc

So I did a rental test with these guys, rented 10TH and funded .1358 for this rental. started 2016-03-03 13:11:59 and ended 2016-03-07 04:58:20. I got rewarded for blocks 401009 till 401722 (28 blocks rewarded). It took 4 blocks to ramp up to a block reward of .007 on avg. When rental ended it ramped down 5 blocks. I am pretty sure I had set my price as .0032 for this rental. Anyway, I added up all my rewards for this rental and should be getting .15252479 in total.

So far I got 2 payments,
.01333018 on 2016-03-04 16:25:56
https://blockchain.info/tx/9d2b6bd77b01ac0dde96aae193e78adf9be55c891a8378a273148fd9bd1236c6
.10109333 on 2016-03-07 00:35:40
https://blockchain.info/tx/30cc6cfb040926cc82ace5ae093ac4fca6d719e4a446460412dd8f25e0e33c46

Today is 3/11 and they still owe me .03810128. I will edit this post once I get the final payment.

Also, note that during my rental time the blocks hit were mostly under 100% diff with a few exceptions and when I checked luck for last 25 blocks before my rental ended it was around 120%.

Anyway, no conclusion on my part other then they paid 2 of 3 payments, as for the "club" part of the business I can't say anything about that. This is only my mining results. But I have been mining on Kano since June 2015 and continue to do very well and would never switch, plus Kano is a pool you can trust 100%.

Payment History: Sorry on format, it was easy to cut/paste.
401722
0.00013288
401674
0.00177065
401656
0.00260650
401642
0.00321698
401636
0.00359040
401572
0.00668449
401569
0.00667551
401563
0.00667231
401540
0.00675156
401526
0.00687900
401517
0.00690425
401472
0.00747175
401445
0.00758398
401411
0.00738606
401376
0.00715287
401366
0.00707810
401347
0.00700181
401325
0.00695173
401306
0.00697945
401304
0.00697250
401238
0.00751544
401227
0.00759975
401184
0.00761664
401160
0.00690581
401083
0.00302253
401074
0.00251032
401028
0.00080407
401009
0.00008745

Rental Summary:

I traced that tx back and it finally ended here, which is like a giant reverse tumble job that ends sort of like it begins.

https://blockchain.info/pt/address/1QBJCCqHgT4nqwWn84odPWvNLf3xzQvb7y

None of those coins were mined anytime recently, at least not that I can see. Tumbled? Maybe.... Scammy still smells scammy.

Not to mention that the hasn't identified which address was his and what he was mining with. but the payout totals seem rather funny.

Almost 30 coins 1 pay and 14 coins the next? how many blocks is this payment from.

is the 30 from 2 blocks found and 14 from 1? if so where are the other 10ish coins going.

You forgot to post which were yours, and what you are mining with.

payments is from last week mining...
and i received paymentos from those 2 confirms!!!


THEY PAY

Which of those is you, and exactly what is the payment for?

latest payment...


https://blockchain.info/tx/9d2b6bd77b01ac0dde96aae193e78adf9be55c891a8378a273148fd9bd1236c6

I'm given to understand that payments are made manually and can be irregular, but do get made.

here's 1 proof of payment...

https://blockchain.info/pt/tx/e200bde58d1c39f7b7e954c178ffb4e5e688cd9545eb949d6ea50f80af4e0216

sounds like bitclubpool made an alt account and claiming to be a small miner that gets paid.



 My question is how does a small miner find this scam site vs something like antpool or slush or kano that are talked about more and more popular. if you are a true noob you look at the block chain and say oo antpool or f2p finds the most blocks ill go with them. Not o look the 7th pool down ill go with them.

you just have to wait and see!!!

Where did you dig up that info, cause it dosent say on their homepage. And in mining status it dosent show confirmed rewards as well so how on earth are you abel to see you get the right payout.

they only pay 1 time per week ....
not automaticaly like in other pools

So is it a scam pool or not?

They do not pay and do not answer support questions.
Im missing 2 BTC payout form 2 days hash tuesday to Thursday morning. I claim they stole my hash…

they pay
i'm a really small and newbie and from the time i was hashing they paied... took a few days but paied )

Interesting that the pool luck is so good, they are getting 7-11 blocks a day with a little over 40PH. I see they are using CKpool code which we know is very good, but still avg 143% luck for last 50 blocks is pretty amazing. Has anyone tested with small hash to see if they pay? I just pointed a small rental to them to see if they are for real and payout. I'll post my results in a few days....

A farm is easily affordable, bought or leased, and their pool stats include third parties pointing at them cos they're free of fees.
They have a large amount of money coming in thanks to their MLM foot soldiers.
They're all over the place, social media, webinars etc. hard selling BCN as a way into Bitcoin for the masses, playing the Mavrodi card that banks are corrupt, the system's finished etc. etc.
Millions of dollars are being collected and shared out between the "founders" from their downlines. A rough estimate is that MLM referral commissions take ~30% of gross revenue straight off the top, increasing exponentially as the scheme ages and new deposits decline.

The scam part is the inability to meet future dividend commitments because they've shared the deposits from investors amongst themselves in this way.
A.k.a a Ponzi.
 

So if the consensus is that this place is a scam, how are they amassing an ever increasing percentage of the network hashrate?

That sounds like a good explanation.

The 'angle', surely, is that they can efficiently launder the cash they are receiving through their MLM-referral ponzi scam by investing in mining bitcoin. It ensures the money is removed from bank accounts controlled by the group, thereby minimising their risks concerning the accounts and funds being seized, and used to buy hashing power in one form or another so they essentially swap it for bitcoin.

This serves the purpose of keeping their illicit takings from the hands of the authorities, as well as providing faux legitimacy to their MLM/Bitcoin 'investment' scheme due to being able to prove they are mining.

Here is their mining address. Have at it. Sorry I didn't think I needed to post it for you. Good luck!

Edit - You will need to follow the withdrawals from this address to see where they ultimately paid out. I see one for close to a million dollars not long ago.

edit 2 - This looks like a typical payout to me, but I don't know much about this scam site. lol.

well TYVM in advance I have tried to find it on blockchain and blocktrail, but I cant/ not sure how to see if they are only using other miners hash power to mine blocks (all 400+ blocks they solved were sent to their bitclubpool address) and confirm that they are not paying miners, shares of matured blocks at all.
Best regards!!!

If they are solving blocks and blockchain.info is tracking it, you should be able to see where the new coins are going. Me, I'm too busy atm, but I would find it interesting as well. Maybe later. 

Hi,

Anyone maybe know how/when and if at all bitclubpool is paying the miners who pointed their hash to their BitClub Pool Stratum Server:  pool.bitclubpool.com:3333?
Did anyone got even a single satoshi from them? they do not explain their PPLNS system at all, I presume they paid nothing ever?
Cheers

Apparently they are now among ten biggest pools

https://blockchain.info/pools?show_adv=no

This is the pool side of the scam site

https://bitclubnetwork.com/home.html

I'm not sure, what is the angle with this.  Maybe to add credibility to scam side? Or is the angle the credit card?

Not sure how anybody fell for this one....

You didn't see this then:


The fact that they are using fake testimonials & photos (one of which is a convicted rapist!  ) is reason enough to avoid this outfit.

They are using a ckpool based backend, you can see it in their coinbase signature, they appear to have antpool style PPLNS payouts that pay out the full block subsidy but without the transaction fees. I haven't seen anyone complain about not getting payouts at least.

Edit: I mean pool payouts from external mining, I have no idea about their other sites.

I'll try not to be an ass about this, you need some serious screens, more information, release your codes and how exactly you will go about paying miners for their work. If so, I'd be happy to pop 100 gh/'s in there to try it out. Currently it looks real shady. Also be honest about the fee, it''s okay to take 1-3% of earnings, especially if you're just starting out.

Thanks, Griff.

Not to mention they are hiring people from the Philippines and paying them very little when they are making a killing. Seriously, you only pay your staff $200 a month to answer questions via chat 24x7?

I just noticed there is a scam thread dedicated to this pool & bitclubnetwork containing a HUGE amount of proof - check it out:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bitclub-network-mlm-promises-false-testimonials-and-pos-coin-avoid-1152263

..then avoid this scam outfit at all costs.

Kudos to member tmfp for starting the scam thread.

Please remove all claims of 0 fee mining from both your website & this thread. By keeping miners Tx fees you are in fact charging them a fee - your claims are misleading & false.

can we see some actual pictures of your miners in action ? 

Such thing like 0% full does not exist. Same applies for free lunch
No matter when and who told you that story tail

Yes, there is no fee assessed on the full block, but the tx part be used to operate the pools.  servers are not cheap to keep this going but at the moment, we are giving out the Block Finder Bonus of $100 for the odds number block the member finds, so please take advantage of that!!!

Sorry, but it's not a 0% fee pool if you are keeping Tx fees.

http://www.bitclubpool.com

Stratum: pool.bitclubpool.com:3333

North America: us.bitclubpool.com:3333
EU: eu.bitclubpool.com:3333

PPLNS Pool 0% Fee *
*Transactino Fee is kept by the pool, a full 25 BTC be distributed between the miners.

PARTY TIME!!!

BLOCK FINDER BONUS: $100 USD in BTC

If your worker finds an odds numbered block (example #368275), we will give away $100 USD worth of BTC to the miner.  While first 100 blocks are mined.

7.00% BLOCK FINDER BONUS: 1 Ticket to Iceland or $1,000 USD in BTC.

If your worker finds a block at the luck of 7.00%, we will fly you to the Miner's Dream Land ICELAND and have a VIP Party with the pool's founders. The air ticket to Iceland be 1 round trip ticket in economy class seating and air carrier is non-selectable by the winner. (or chose to take $1,000 USD value in BTC)


Pool:                      BitClubPool
Website:                 http://www.bitclubpool.com
Proxy:                    NO
Coinbase signature:   BitClub Network
Payout method:        PPLNS
Fee:                        0%
Pay Tx Reward:        NO
Vardiff:                   Automatic (18 20 SPM)
Local Work:             Stratum
Pay Orphans:           NO (We would love to but we can't afford it...)
Min Withdrawal:       0.002 BTC (We will try to push out as much Dust Payment as possible but this be the promissed minimum)
Merge Mining:          No Merged Mining at the moment.


BLOCK FINDER AWARD

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#370161 - 0.430BTC PAID
#369967 - 0.378BTC PAID
#369645 - 0.375BTC PAID
#368811 - 3.750BTC PAID
#367439 - 0.350BTC PAID