Topic: 1.00x+1.00x+1.00x:streak of 3 rounds (Read 251 times)

Let's take it one step at a time, nobody here defends the casinos, just on topic, hence don't divert interest, I defend in this case the "fair" probabilities, what you mention will not happen, and if it happens in a certain way it contradicts your position, because the ability of the casino is to know how to distribute its profits, not to keep them all.

That idea of ​​100% fair is what brought us here, crypto casinos, so games with PF guarantee that you have a fair game, now that has nothing to do with that idea of ​​thinking that the Casinos are unfair or fair, in fact all the games that I know tell you clearly, you lose (e.g.) 7%, 6%, 5%, 4%, 3%, 2%, 1% in the regularity of all casino games and except for those exceptions that exist with some games like BJ (e.g.) where that HE is less than 1% in some cases.

In fact, one of the most popular games that exist, such as Crash, is known to have a "limiter" in the algorithm that causes or limits the high multipliers to repeat frequently, but the randomness of these multipliers varies, so that randomness exists, although restricted, but it is there.

So the fair game lies in these initial conditions always being met, in other words the casino may not be fair with its HE but the game is fair in those established parameters.

Returning to the initial topic at hand, the idea here was to "talk", "discuss" those improbable situations that are presented to us within that frame of reference of fair play, or that we believe to be so, my idea here is not to consider whether a casino is fair or not, if I bet in a casino it is because I know my limits and I recognize those offered by the casino, hey be careful that this randomness is not something only of casino games it applies to all esports (e.g.), even Dota, it uses this randomness to allow certain moments of the game not to benefit other players more, or in the case of Poker the randomness in each shuffle of cards... etc.

Randomness is something that we players look for to be fair in online games, I mean, if the conditions are terrible for us within that framework of play, at least we hope that within that frame of reference they are met, and that is achieved with the PF, then if you say that a casino made you lose 100 times in a row at 5% of victory, you say goodbye Casino, it is that simple, since the casino cannot be so "stupid" (surely there are) to allow such a situation to happen, I mean it is the other side of the coin.

In other words, it is in the casino's interest to "exploit" you in the long term, not to only 100 times.

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I have another interesting graph:


^{Data: Dice: 50%WC, on loss 100%}

Of course not, I didn't say that all casino games are provably fair, that would be a nonsense. I was just answering to you about your thought about the casino controlling the specific results of "100 x defeats without winning" you mentioned.

As explained in provably.com: "Provably fairness is the process which allows players from all over the world to manually and personally verify the fairness of the games that they're playing". So not all casinos implement it, but you should trust the ones which do it.

No need to say that the probability will be always set to favor the house, because otherwise they could go bankrupt, but at least you can trust that they are not manipulating the results, and avoid becoming paranoid with no reason.

so do you think all casino games are proven 100% fair?
in my opinion, it is impossible to be 100% fair, if they are fair there will definitely be a casino business that goes bankrupt because of the winnings of its users, I did not find this news, and that means it must have been manipulated

The issue is not losing 1000, 10000, or as you mention 100 times, that is normal according to the associated parameters, such as payout, Wc, On win, reset: increase by or on loss, reset: increase by...

The issue with you proposal or idea, or experience, is that 100 times in a row is an absolute rarity, I think that sometimes we distort the conversation by simple misinterpreted conjectures, if you lose 100 at a payout of 1.0421, it is not at all rare even in 200 bet numbers, but 100 in a row, I think you should have had some proof and showed it to the casino.

Actually, I don't believe you, you are trolling the subject. although I don't care, really, it doesn't matter, but if it happens to you again, take a screenshot.

I'm going to show a graph of when in my case lose +100 times, with 98%:



Watch out, that one up there is absolutely normal, totally, I just continued to the wager I was looking for, closed the game and to another configuration, or that's it... no more gambling.

It's worth clarifying that the first part looks that way because I used on loss: increase by... on that path (I'll keep the % to myself)

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Guys, we got to page 5 or until Halloween, for the lock. 

Wait, wait wait. Are you saying that there were only 5% chance to lose, and you have lost 100 times in a row? But that is impossible. Or you had numerous bets, but lost 100 time? If you had lost 100 times in a row with only 5% lose chance this is obvious that something wrong with that casino. Few months ago we had a topic where there were bug in a game and gambler lost 6000 times without winning. After investigation it was found out that there was a bug in game code.

If the game is provably fair you shouldn't think like that, but it is normal especially after a too improbable to be true losing spree, like when I lost 10 times in a row having set it at 50% (I still doubt whether that sh**ty almost unknown exchange with that feature was legit or I was ripped off).

More recently I managed to double, playing dice with >90% chances of victory in a reputable casino. But even if the game is not controlled you have to roll it too many times, and every time can be the last. Because, as fM said:

It is very impossible to beat the bookie, unless you have unlimited money, it is no different with dice, I have stopped there, it is useless to apply any strategy, it is better to play according to your heart's desire than to expect victory, in dice I set 95% victory but I experienced 100 x defeats without winning, I sometimes think that they have controlled it

The casino will always find a way to fuck us up no matter what we do or in the case here, we are playing on a very high win chance game because we are trying to wager efficiently, or simply trying to score some profit using a huge bet but I think the risk on this one is not worth it despite the odds that are displayed on our screens. Dice odds must be different than in Limbo and that is why the results are not the same. I've been playing Dice for a long time and I can sometimes use it to wager efficiently, and often times get a 1x in a row. I never witnessed it in a Limbo game, that is also because I rarely touch it and if I do, I only hunt for a high multiplier.

If we are really annoyed, we can follow the suggestion of @Mr. Sacarsm there but it is only the first one or the one where he said that we must avoid Limbo because the second one is still useful for measuring on how things go even though there are instances that it is not followed. Imagine if we will just play any gambling game blindly, or we bet high amounts on a low-win chance game, that would be a disaster. The last thing that he said is about resetting or changing the seed but like some users said, this is only just a fallacy.

Lol, I am the one who has been loosing due to 1.00 > 1.00 kind of bets in Crash several times After seeing that in crash game, its can go up to x9999, which opens a huge, simply HUGE range of outcomes, seeing 1.00, followed by 1.00, maybe at least once a week looks very suspicious. I guess that streak of such outcomes can not be so often. For example I have never seen x9999 to come after x9999.

I once had the desire to learn about how to play Limbo with my friends, at first I thought the game was the same as the game crashing or hanging, but apparently not, The more I studied, the more confused I became with the Limbo game, what was even more confusing was that there was no place to start the game and there was no tutorial, so in the end I gave up playing Limbo.

What's more, I saw my friends playing in the game with lots of obstacles and traps, which made me even more confused, maybe if I played I was sure I couldn't miss the obstacles, Honestly, I really don't have any desire to learn to play Limbo, for me it's an annoying game, you could say that if I played 1000 rounds I might still lose and never get lucky.

I agree. The last bet losing doesn't mean it will give us something back on the next bet. They say RTP, nah, don't rely on that, more like RTC, return to the casino. RNG is true, and it means what comes next will depend on the algorithm.
I've played enough Dice trying to lower down at x1.15 below just so I could increase my wager for the week but still, I cannot find myself on a winning streak that I could say I can come out and enjoy it.
There are greens, mostly as you start the autoplay, but as the game goes longer you will see that the house is getting back what had been given to us and more.

Actually a great deal of casino games , including roulette, crash games, classic slots games and even Baccarat require a a decent level of luck on your side for you to be able to successfully grab your win. Just like you said the chances of that happening in a spin game is very thin however it's not impossible simply because of probability since that very small chance re occur multiple times.
Most of these games are controlled by randomisation algorithms and are actually almost impossible to predict. Limbo games can pretty much have thin probabilities sometimes and as I like to call it that the winning probability is a usually a result of luck most of the time.

Well, actually there are other cases where it does affect, such as slots. As we have said, each game is independent and the result of one game does not affect the subsequent ones, but slots, especially physical slots that pay out with the money collected, have a prize limit of the money that is available for payments in the machine. If you get a big win, a second one would not be impossible but it would be rare and I dare say that a third one in a short time would be impossible because normally there will not be enough money in the machine to pay it out.

We all agree that they are individual events, and that is the exact reason why it is repeated so many times in short periods, but it is worth clarifying again, for some and future readers (hopefully) it is the series "1.00x+1.00x+1.00x" coming out at least 3 times in a row, three times in a period of less than 100 bets.

By the way, I wrote sping, but in the jargon it is better Bets (Number of Bet), then I noticed in some comments that some may be thinking of 1.00x coming out 3 times, that is not the point.

THE question to discuss:

Some "catched" it, some maybe not... anyway...

From some general comments:
Someone takes out a mathematical calculation, well done, but it is always an individual event, there is a 2% that comes out and not the cumulative that you mentioned, contrary to how you think, yes, it is a rarity, that it happens, in the form of the mentioned case, not only 1.00x, remember 3 times in a row 1.00x and three times in that period of 100 bets. BTW, someone mentioned BJ, (well done) yeah,the same thing happens with Poker, the subsequent result is affected by the mere fact of knowing the previous card, etc.

But mostly they doesn't believe it.

If they want to counted previous bets for upcoming result, they should playing Blackjack with Card Counter. The previous card can be used for up coming bets and result, and that's why most of people who can card counted getting kick out from casino with reason (trespassing).

Since, casino in landbase is private business

Imagine the extreme happening going for a high multiplier. Say x9900 comes 3x in a row and you were actually chasing it, life changing money if you were betting enough. Regardless of the multiplier you are chasing and the result that ends up coming, you're already aware that each bet is independent from the next as many have said, so just bet small and have some fun and hope you end the session in profit.

That's right, when you've been gambling for years you get to see everything, and above all that things that are very improbable end up happening.


Indeed, this is a typical fallacy that people repeat over and over again and that we can see in this section. People don't seem to realise that they are betting on individual events, not a series.

This is a great example of unpredictable satisfaction. Even if we think we understand the situation better. The human brain is wired to predict patterns or predict outcomes. But in reality Each turn comes naturally. And the impossible can happen. And it's finished. It's easy to forget that it's possible to hit three rare hits in a row. This is especially true in games like Limbo where the odds can be tricky.

I've seen this same thing happen in other games where something that statistically wouldn't be possible is repeated within a short time frame. It reminds me that, however much we try to implement measures or adjust things like seed recycling or game plan changes, having a laid-back personality It's the one thing that keeps this whole thing constant. And all this, in my view, comes to being managed expectations and responsible banking by realistically recognizing that utterly improbable results are part of the game.


Understand where you are coming from. This is especially true of slot machines. and how there appears to be a "cool-down" period after a big win. However it is vital to remember that each play, roll, or bet must be independent of the other. At least statistically. While the machine is programmed to give negative results after a big win. These results are still controlled by the RNG, which should reset the odds on a case-by-case basis.

That said, I can see how the experience of purchasing slot machines and bonuses creates a different perspective. This is because some games seem to adjust after a big win or to secure the casino room door. But technically, winning or losing decisively in one round does not affect your chances of winning in the next round. But. How do you manage your bets after a big win?

Bro, Slot it's are quite different and they using RTP too.

Meanwhile, we are talking for a game with chance-based game. It's true, previous bets is not gonna effect next bet do you think you will win on next bet even the previous few bets are streak lose?

If you betting with 50:50 chance, no matter how much you lose in previous bets is not gonna to increase your chance win on next bets. You still gonna having 50:50 chance win.

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To avoid miss understanding, perhaps we can take a look at my statement with you.



Here the answer



Not me who answer these, but CHAT GPT. Up to you believe it or not.

Oh how I wish this was true. Unfortunately it totally is not, the previous bet will heavily affect your next bet, if you hit the max win in a slot machine let's suppose a x10.000 multiplier max win, how much are chances you to hit that max win in the next spin, you guessed it they are exactly 0, also exactly 0 is also to hit the 50% of the max win which is a multiplier of x5.000 your bet, guess what the chances of you hitting the 25% of that max win in the spin next after it are exactly near 0 or better 0 still and this for me say a lot about the bets not being independent of each other. I am of course talking about slots buying bonus thing which is the complete demonstration of what I am saying here, the slot machine even reminds you where you left off and continues exactly there, so if you have won big in the previous session chances are super super high you will lose in the next one.

For limbo, dice, crash and every other casino shit is the same, the bets are fully fully fully dependent on each other, otherwise the casinos would be bankrupt in no time.

You will be surprized about how randomness works... is normal to see streaks like that, i even have seen 5 x1.00 consecutive, and people losing big all-ins on this kind of streaks.

My first experience with dice was fun, i remember that i started betting on 95% chance to win, and I thought it's impossible to lose 3 consecutive times with those odds, and i was on a lucky streak, but then i saw how i lose 5 consecutive times with 95% chance to sin, which is really weird because if you see it from the other side, it would be like win 5 consecutive times with 5% chance to win. That would be nuts.

Fun fact for people who are gambling.

Previous bet are not gonna to effect anything in the next bet. People thinking the previous loss is always taken as consider for next bet, example like 50:50 no matter how much lose streak you have. The chance you betting is always 50:50 nothing more or less and don't forget for house edge.

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People are to much getting some gambling fallancy.

These kind of games allow such "crazy" results. Its not uncommon a long streak of losses at any odd...
This is not just related "trust" of the casino but its just related to the nature itself of these games.
The solution is easy. Avoid to play large sums, there are no predictions that could works and more you play more you loss due RTP...

Changing the seed isn't going to help. Because this is something that still falls under gambler's fallacy.

The chances are going to be the same. You need to judge it individually. Each roll has the same chances to be 1.00x. Then, on the grand scheme of things, whatever the chances to get 1.00x are, you could say the chances to get it thrice in a row would be (chance for 1.00x)^3. For example if it's 2% you need to do 0.02*0.02*0.02. The result is 0.000008 or 1 in 125 thousand. Honestly, that's not SO rare. Like yes, might sound unlucky but not anywhere close to impossible.

Anyway, we need to still be aware of Gambler's fallacy so don't forget. You're not really unlucky, it's something that can happen. If you play enough, it's even bound to happen by chance. Changing the seed doesn't save you.

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update: oct 23.

Someone here has been fortunate enough to have this unfavorable situation three times in a row and double in a round of 100 spins, be surprised, it is not rare for Dice, but for Limbo, Fk, statistically it is obviously possible but it is very low for 3 times in a row, it seems "normal" to me, but in a range of 100, 2 times that third is "abnormal".

Keep in mind that 2 times happens and "a lot" in 10k bet I have seen it up to 4 times, in 2k =>2 times, etc.


Let's say that the above mentioned are some options taken to sarcasm, nothing more, everyone is free to think what they want, especially in the fun side, without regrets.

I wanted to bring up this anecdote, because in the path of the betting experience we always believe that improbable probabilities will never happen to us, but they do happen... this comment is not sarcastic.