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Topic: [1500 TH] p2pool: Decentralized, DoS-resistant, Hop-Proof pool - page 447. (Read 2591964 times)

legendary
Activity: 1792
Merit: 1008
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Hi folks

Just joined p2pool last night with 170Gh/s

Mining fine just wondering how long dose it take for payment to hit the wallet ? 3 blocks have been found when I have been mining on here.

Any way to monitor the miner on the pool as I looked for my wallet address on p2pool.org on the stats but can't see it.

Cheers

P2Pool.org is not affiliated with P2Pool or ForrestV.
.org .ru and .com p2pools are nodes that keep payouts for themselves and than distribute according to their own rules

If you want to join TRUE p2pool go to any node from list p2pool-nodes.info or setup own local node using guides from p2pool.in

Hi, Thanks for the reply, geeez which I knew that, if I join any pool from the p2pool-node.info list I still use the BTC wallet as user name and password as anything ?

Dose it matter how big the pool is ?

Thanks

All p2pool nodes belongs to p2pool network
it looks something like that


you can switch between node and you still will be in p2pool network and all your work will be saved
That is great opportunity of decentralization. If any node is under ddos you can switch to other and continue work in p2pool network
or, as you should, just run a own p2pool and let it handle the connections with the other pools.
sr. member
Activity: 395
Merit: 250
Hi folks

Just joined p2pool last night with 170Gh/s

Mining fine just wondering how long dose it take for payment to hit the wallet ? 3 blocks have been found when I have been mining on here.

Any way to monitor the miner on the pool as I looked for my wallet address on p2pool.org on the stats but can't see it.

Cheers

P2Pool.org is not affiliated with P2Pool or ForrestV.
.org .ru and .com p2pools are nodes that keep payouts for themselves and than distribute according to their own rules

If you want to join TRUE p2pool go to any node from list p2pool-nodes.info or setup own local node using guides from p2pool.in

Hi, Thanks for the reply, geeez which I knew that, if I join any pool from the p2pool-node.info list I still use the BTC wallet as user name and password as anything ?

Dose it matter how big the pool is ?

Thanks

All p2pool nodes belongs to p2pool network
it looks something like that


you can switch between node and you still will be in p2pool network and all your work will be saved
That is great opportunity of decentralization. If any node is under ddos you can switch to other and continue work in p2pool network
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 269
Hi folks

Just joined p2pool last night with 170Gh/s

Mining fine just wondering how long dose it take for payment to hit the wallet ? 3 blocks have been found when I have been mining on here.

Any way to monitor the miner on the pool as I looked for my wallet address on p2pool.org on the stats but can't see it.

Cheers

P2Pool.org is not affiliated with P2Pool or ForrestV.
.org .ru and .com p2pools are nodes that keep payouts for themselves and than distribute according to their own rules

If you want to join TRUE p2pool go to any node from list p2pool-nodes.info or setup own local node using guides from p2pool.in

Hi, Thanks for the reply, geeez which I knew that, if I join any pool from the p2pool-node.info list I still use the BTC wallet as user name and password as anything ?

Dose it matter how big the pool is ?

Thanks
hero member
Activity: 516
Merit: 643
Hello,

I've been mining on P2Pool for about 4 days now.  Running my own node with about 120 GH/s.  The recent 52 hour stretch of bad luck was a bit tough, but I think I'll stick with it a while.

I had a few questions for those that have been at this a while.

For (1), you can use the share explorer, which is part of the web interface, accessible with a browser on port 9332.

For (2), you could look at your shares in the share explorer and follow the links to see if any became blocks...
newbie
Activity: 16
Merit: 0
Hello,

I've been mining on P2Pool for about 4 days now.  Running my own node with about 120 GH/s.  The recent 52 hour stretch of bad luck was a bit tough, but I think I'll stick with it a while.

I had a few questions for those that have been at this a while.

1.  I wanted to know if there is a way to browse the p2pool blockchain similar to way you can browse the bitcoin blockchain with blockchain.info or similar.  Basically I'd like to monitor the shares that are being posted in the p2pool chain.  I see some chain dat files in the p2pool data directory, perhaps there is a tool of some sort?

2.  I  was wondering if there is a way to tell the max difficulty a share satisfied.  Not the required difficulty to make the block but the max difficulty the hash would have satisfied.  For example, I see in p2pool I made a share and the difficulty was lets say 850K, in bfgminer I see my "best share (BS)" is 955M.  Which if I understand correctly means I could have mined a bitcoin block not to long ago.  I was wondering if you could determine the "best difficulty" for each share?

Thanks,
-alan
sr. member
Activity: 395
Merit: 250
Hi folks

Just joined p2pool last night with 170Gh/s

Mining fine just wondering how long dose it take for payment to hit the wallet ? 3 blocks have been found when I have been mining on here.

Any way to monitor the miner on the pool as I looked for my wallet address on p2pool.org on the stats but can't see it.

Cheers

P2Pool.org is not affiliated with P2Pool or ForrestV.
.org .ru and .com p2pools are nodes that keep payouts for themselves and than distribute according to their own rules

If you want to join TRUE p2pool go to any node from list p2pool-nodes.info or setup own local node using guides from p2pool.in
sr. member
Activity: 588
Merit: 269
Hi folks

Just joined p2pool last night with 170Gh/s

Mining fine just wondering how long dose it take for payment to hit the wallet ? 3 blocks have been found when I have been mining on here.

Any way to monitor the miner on the pool as I looked for my wallet address on p2pool.org on the stats but can't see it.

Cheers
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
What is the FINANCIAL incentive for me to switch to p2pool from GHASH.IO?

Direct-to-instacash miners benefit is 0-fee (the block solver gets a slightly higher reward, but technically that evens out over the long term), better orphan rates, so more money in your pocket, and provably in your pocket.

Depending on how long you want to be a miner, it also is basically the only pool that can't steal your money, the only pool which can't take your hashrate and do something else with it without you knowing, the only pool that, if 100% of all miners used it would NOT create a centralized hashrate problem, one of the ONLY pools to payout in actual coinbase (Eligius does as well) and ..  well honestly there's basically no point in mining elsewhere than P2Pool or Eligius.

All this is true for p2pool if you have a lot of hashpower.  Otherwise that 879k share difficulty is going to give you extreme variance.

M
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 501
OK, so it seems some ASICs work better than they used to.  My apologies.  Still, the bulk of my miners are ASICMiner, which still don't work with p2pool.
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 37
And, for what it's worth, here's a 55nm Avalon doing just fine on P2Pool, much better than the B1. The downtime has nothing to do with P2Pool and everything to do with me fiddling with power stuff.

member
Activity: 88
Merit: 37
What is the FINANCIAL incentive for me to switch to p2pool from GHASH.IO?

Direct-to-instacash miners benefit is 0-fee (the block solver gets a slightly higher reward, but technically that evens out over the long term), better orphan rates, so more money in your pocket, and provably in your pocket.

Depending on how long you want to be a miner, it also is basically the only pool that can't steal your money, the only pool which can't take your hashrate and do something else with it without you knowing, the only pool that, if 100% of all miners used it would NOT create a centralized hashrate problem, one of the ONLY pools to payout in actual coinbase (Eligius does as well) and ..  well honestly there's basically no point in mining elsewhere than P2Pool or Eligius.

staff
Activity: 4284
Merit: 8808
Antminers actually have a significant advantage on P2Pool.
The antminer graph I posted above has considerably better latency than the Avalon batch 1s (which still happily get me 100% eff).
member
Activity: 88
Merit: 37
Just a quick question, i was told on reddit that low hash rate miners don't really work on p2p is that true?

All miners don't really work on p2pool.  But hey, the devs would rather run around waving their arms in the air, blaming everyone else rather than fixing p2pool.

None of the ASICMiner devices work properly, Avalons don't work properly, KnC don't work properly, and Antminers don't work properly.  There's issues with BFL stuff too.  Oddly enough, all those miners work fine with almost every other pool.  But, it's the hardware manufacturer's fault they don't work with p2pool.  Obviously.   Roll Eyes

Avalons (b1 and prototype) work fine on P2Pool. BFL SC work fine on P2Pool. Most FPGA (except BFL FPGA) work fine on P2Pool. As I understand it, Antminers actually have a significant advantage on P2Pool.
staff
Activity: 4284
Merit: 8808
Avalons don't work properly
Work absolutely fine.
Antminers are not responding to LP/work restart, don't bother to setup p2pool for them, they are just not compatible and you will get 30% or more Rejected work.
Single blade antminer S1, Works fantastically on P2Pool:


And if there are non-trivial numbers of people with miners that don't respond to LPs then you sure as heck don't want to be sharing a pool with them. Higher latency or the lack of LP will ding (severely!) you on P2Pool but these things increase orphaned blocks generally. With other pools that aren't so critical amount miner timeliness that cost is shared by the miners. If your setup isn't screwy you're paying for other people's screwyness. Not on P2Pool.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1012
I have no intention of keeping Bitcoins long term I cash them in for fiat just about daily. I'm now starting to buy items on overstock with my BTC as well.

You don't need to hold bitcoins long term to have a financial incentive to promote a healthy Bitcoin network. Perhaps you would like to continue instantly selling your mined bitcoins in the future? You do have a hardware investment don't you? Your hardware is only going to continue providing you with income if people continue to have confidence in Bitcoin. If there is a loss in confidence in the network thanks to centralization, people may stop purchasing bitcoins from miners and Bitcoin mining hardware will probably be worthless.

Maybe hashing power centralization won't result in a loss of confidence in Bitcoin, but as a long term Bitcoin holder, I can tell you with certainty that it will affect my confidence in the system.
sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
Ok guys, just here to ask a dumb question.

I am currently getting about 111% efficiency on P2pool just because my connection is pretty good.
I'm also getting about only slightly more than 90% of my usual hashrate when mining on p2pool with my asics, for no adequately explained reason.

Am I right in assuming that these roughly cancel out, making the luck bonus "worth it", theoretically, assuming I can maintain my 111% efficiency on average?
legendary
Activity: 1036
Merit: 1000
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Avalons do work properly at least when using a good firmware with a recent enough cgminer (3.2.2 here).
Bitburner Fury miners are working well too.

Good to hear, I had some Bitburner Fury miners but without greater success. Probably not enough tweaking with timing. Unfortunately, I sold them Wink I had no time to configure them to work better on p2pool Smiley
Also, yes, I forgot to mention Avalons on my post earlier on!
hero member
Activity: 553
Merit: 500
I don't think the last 2d5h6m @ 447.3% block didn't help either
hero member
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Just a quick question, i was told on reddit that low hash rate miners don't really work on p2p is that true?

All miners don't really work on p2pool.  But hey, the devs would rather run around waving their arms in the air, blaming everyone else rather than fixing p2pool.

None of the ASICMiner devices work properly, Avalons don't work properly,

Avalons do work properly at least when using a good firmware with a recent enough cgminer (3.2.2 here).
Bitburner Fury miners are working well too.

But what do I know ? I just actually configured them to mine on p2pool with 100+% efficiency. My experience may not correlate with someone's random assertions.
legendary
Activity: 1540
Merit: 1001
I must be missing something.  According to p2pool stats, current share difficulty is 829k.  It'd take a whole lot of USB erupters to get a share that size in any reasonable amount of time.

The high share difficulty is one of the downsides for p2pool.

I know.  I've used p2pool before.  Last time I switched off is when the share difficulty started to get out of hand for my 10gh/s rig.  That was back when it was 80k or so.

M
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