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Topic: 16 Shot, 3 Dead At California Garlic Festival; Shooter Still At Large (Read 497 times)

legendary
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Please explain in detail what is wrong with the picture I posted.
The picture (which originated on 4chan) is in response to the recent coverage of the mass shootings in America and the response from the main stream media which is basically "America has a serious problem with people walking into crowded areas and shooting as many strangers as possible, as fast as possible.  More often than not these are white males.  And the one that happened in Texas was probably influenced by Trumps rhetoric.  America has a problem with white supremacy, and the Texas shooting is evidence of that."

While all gun violence is bad, it's not all the same.

A shootout on the streets over a grudge or gang issues is not the same as walking down a crowded street and shooting 37 people in 30 seconds.

This picture lumps them all together, showing only the color of their skin without any other information.

It's clear the intent is to pass the message that "black people are worse than white people" when it comes to gun violence, which is exactly why the former grand wizard of the KKK quickly posted it on his website and had an entire podcast devoted to the subject.

Thanks for exposing yourself as a racist and a hypocrite. The picture is just reality. Your prejudicial projections upon it are not my responsibility, they are yours and yours alone. People like you LOVE trying to make it seem like only white people are shooters and it is some how worse than when black people do it, and anyone who shows a picture of reality is racist. Take your weak ass guilt via association argument and shove it you fucking bigot. Progressives are more racist than any KKK member, they just think their virtue signalling makes up for it.

Jesus Christ dude.  You need to calm down.

I am perfectly calm. Projecting your imaginary emotional states on to me is just a completely transparent attempt to avoid addressing the fact that you got exposed for your own racist bigoted views while you point your fingers at others for the same. You know who else told people to calm down?
HITLER


I rest my case.

He isn't old enough to know about Hitler, or Stalin.     Cool
legendary
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Please explain in detail what is wrong with the picture I posted.
The picture (which originated on 4chan) is in response to the recent coverage of the mass shootings in America and the response from the main stream media which is basically "America has a serious problem with people walking into crowded areas and shooting as many strangers as possible, as fast as possible.  More often than not these are white males.  And the one that happened in Texas was probably influenced by Trumps rhetoric.  America has a problem with white supremacy, and the Texas shooting is evidence of that."

While all gun violence is bad, it's not all the same.

A shootout on the streets over a grudge or gang issues is not the same as walking down a crowded street and shooting 37 people in 30 seconds.

This picture lumps them all together, showing only the color of their skin without any other information.

It's clear the intent is to pass the message that "black people are worse than white people" when it comes to gun violence, which is exactly why the former grand wizard of the KKK quickly posted it on his website and had an entire podcast devoted to the subject.

Thanks for exposing yourself as a racist and a hypocrite. The picture is just reality. Your prejudicial projections upon it are not my responsibility, they are yours and yours alone. People like you LOVE trying to make it seem like only white people are shooters and it is some how worse than when black people do it, and anyone who shows a picture of reality is racist. Take your weak ass guilt via association argument and shove it you fucking bigot. Progressives are more racist than any KKK member, they just think their virtue signalling makes up for it.

Jesus Christ dude.  You need to calm down.

I am perfectly calm. Projecting your imaginary emotional states on to me is just a completely transparent attempt to avoid addressing the fact that you got exposed for your own racist bigoted views while you point your fingers at others for the same. You know who else told people to calm down?
HITLER


I rest my case.
legendary
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Please explain in detail what is wrong with the picture I posted.
The picture (which originated on 4chan) is in response to the recent coverage of the mass shootings in America and the response from the main stream media which is basically "America has a serious problem with people walking into crowded areas and shooting as many strangers as possible, as fast as possible.  More often than not these are white males.  And the one that happened in Texas was probably influenced by Trumps rhetoric.  America has a problem with white supremacy, and the Texas shooting is evidence of that."

While all gun violence is bad, it's not all the same.

A shootout on the streets over a grudge or gang issues is not the same as walking down a crowded street and shooting 37 people in 30 seconds.

This picture lumps them all together, showing only the color of their skin without any other information.

It's clear the intent is to pass the message that "black people are worse than white people" when it comes to gun violence, which is exactly why the former grand wizard of the KKK quickly posted it on his website and had an entire podcast devoted to the subject.

Thanks for exposing yourself as a racist and a hypocrite. The picture is just reality. Your prejudicial projections upon it are not my responsibility, they are yours and yours alone. People like you LOVE trying to make it seem like only white people are shooters and it is some how worse than when black people do it, and anyone who shows a picture of reality is racist. Take your weak ass guilt via association argument and shove it you fucking bigot. Progressives are more racist than any KKK member, they just think their virtue signalling makes up for it.

Jesus Christ dude.  You need to calm down.
legendary
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Please explain in detail what is wrong with the picture I posted.
The picture (which originated on 4chan) is in response to the recent coverage of the mass shootings in America and the response from the main stream media which is basically "America has a serious problem with people walking into crowded areas and shooting as many strangers as possible, as fast as possible.  More often than not these are white males.  And the one that happened in Texas was probably influenced by Trumps rhetoric.  America has a problem with white supremacy, and the Texas shooting is evidence of that."

While all gun violence is bad, it's not all the same.

A shootout on the streets over a grudge or gang issues is not the same as walking down a crowded street and shooting 37 people in 30 seconds.

This picture lumps them all together, showing only the color of their skin without any other information.

It's clear the intent is to pass the message that "black people are worse than white people" when it comes to gun violence, which is exactly why the former grand wizard of the KKK quickly posted it on his website and had an entire podcast devoted to the subject.

Thanks for exposing yourself as a racist and a hypocrite. The picture is just reality. Your prejudicial projections upon it are not my responsibility, they are yours and yours alone. People like you LOVE trying to make it seem like only white people are shooters and it is some how worse than when black people do it, and anyone who shows a picture of reality is racist. Take your weak ass guilt via association argument and shove it you fucking bigot. Progressives are more racist than any KKK member, they just think their virtue signalling makes up for it.
legendary
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Please explain in detail what is wrong with the picture I posted.

The picture (which originated on 4chan) is in response to the recent coverage of the mass shootings in America and the response from the main stream media which is basically "America has a serious problem with people walking into crowded areas and shooting as many strangers as possible, as fast as possible.  More often than not these are white males.  And the one that happened in Texas was probably influenced by Trumps rhetoric.  America has a problem with white supremacy, and the Texas shooting is evidence of that."

While all gun violence is bad, it's not all the same.

A shootout on the streets over a grudge or gang issues is not the same as walking down a crowded street and shooting 37 people in 30 seconds.

This picture lumps them all together, showing only the color of their skin without any other information.

It's clear the intent is to pass the message that "black people are worse than white people" when it comes to gun violence, which is exactly why the former grand wizard of the KKK quickly posted it on his website and had an entire podcast devoted to the subject.
legendary
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Please explain in detail what is wrong with the picture I posted.

Too many shades of brown for my taste. And before anyone calls it a racist comment, it's just a fact-based observation.
Side note, maybe a vampire killed them? Couldn't take the smell and came guns blazing.
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Please explain in detail what is wrong with the picture I posted.
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Supposedly pictures of the Gilroy shooter and the El Paso shooter respectively:



I've got no idea of this is a hoax or not.  If not, 'they' are obviously laughing in our face.

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legendary
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This is common knowledge. Nobody gets into a gunfight when he knows he might not win because everyone else has guns. But if he is crazy on opioids, he loses when there are guns around to take him down. Simple as that.


Gun Laws Create Gun Violence



Approximately 5 to 10 million AR-15 style rifles exist in America according to the National Shooting Sports Foundation. If we were to ban these guns outright tomorrow, would they just vanish into thin air? That is what gun law advocates seem to be suggesting by their rhetoric. Whenever we hear reports of a shooting tragedy, the TV, newspapers, and social media PR campaigns fire off in unison for bans on "assault rifles" like the AR-15. We are told that supporters of such bans are doing what is necessary to save innocent lives. But how does a top-down prohibition of a desired object actually work in practice? Violently and disastrously, according to every case example we have.


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sr. member
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This haven't showed up on my social media feed. RIP to the victims.

I guess California's gun laws aren't strict enough that one baddie managed to get through. Solution would to outright guns, right?

From an earlier thread here, the least likely citizens to commit a crime were concealed carry card holders.  The second were off-duty cops.

I know for sure that many, and probably most, concealed carry holders train religiously.

I would be 100x more comfortable in a crowd where 1-in-20 people took the responsibility to be concealed carry than in a crowd where nobody did.  Conversely, were I a criminal intent on harming others, I would be most uncomfortable indeed if anyone I see or anyone who might I might want to rob or rape could be 'packing heat.'

It is definitely a deterrent. If you plan on a mass shooting you can only shoot a few before one in the crowd shot back at you.
legendary
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^^^ Well, nobody uses breath freshener there.      Cheesy
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What is the Garlic Festival in the first place
legendary
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Are you suggesting that we should allow ordinary, non-trained citizens to bring their guns into a festival like this?
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From an earlier thread here, the least likely citizens to commit a crime were concealed carry card holders.  The second were off-duty cops.

I know for sure that many, and probably most, concealed carry holders train religiously.

I would be 100x more comfortable in a crowd where 1-in-20 people took the responsibility to be concealed carry than in a crowd where nobody did.  Conversely, were I a criminal intent on harming others, I would be most uncomfortable indeed if anyone I see or anyone who might I might want to rob or rape could be 'packing heat.'



The Short, Happy Life of Nathan Waldman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC6J0CesVT0



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legendary
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Gun control killed the people in Gilroy.


Gilroy festival was a GUN FREE ZONE. Gun control was in place. Guess what happens...



Gilroy festival was a GUN FREE ZONE. Gun control was in place. Guess what happens in gun free zones? LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES.


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Wasn't the shooter taken down within 1 minute by authorities? - A few people, like the injured, and the dead if they could talk, would say that it was a minute too long.

Are you suggesting that we should allow ordinary, non-trained citizens to bring their guns into a festival like this? - Train them. Save cop wage money.

Would you prefer he didn't have to cut through the fence? - Obviously the fence wasn't nearly thick enough for a gun-free zone.


Once the people start taking the mayor and the town council, and State leaders to court personally for their lack of protecting, things will change. After all, it's the people who force this to be a gun-free zone who are at fault.

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legendary
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Are you suggesting that we should allow ordinary, non-trained citizens to bring their guns into a festival like this?
...

From an earlier thread here, the least likely citizens to commit a crime were concealed carry card holders.  The second were off-duty cops.

I know for sure that many, and probably most, concealed carry holders train religiously.

I would be 100x more comfortable in a crowd where 1-in-20 people took the responsibility to be concealed carry than in a crowd where nobody did.  Conversely, were I a criminal intent on harming others, I would be most uncomfortable indeed if anyone I see or anyone who might I might want to rob or rape could be 'packing heat.'

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Gun control killed the people in Gilroy.


Gilroy festival was a GUN FREE ZONE. Gun control was in place. Guess what happens...



Gilroy festival was a GUN FREE ZONE. Gun control was in place. Guess what happens in gun free zones? LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES.


Cool

Wasn't the shooter taken down within 1 minute by authorities?

Are you suggesting that we should allow ordinary, non-trained citizens to bring their guns into a festival like this?

Would you prefer he didn't have to cut through the fence?

legendary
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This cycle of shootings and then the left and liberals heaping blame on firearms rather than the basic issues has become an unmistakably American trend now.
While the conservatives support firearms and seem to a know a lot about it, the specialty of left is stuff like Sex, Gender roles and Drugs. So much of American culture has become a running commentary on the role of these three things in the lives of millenials, teenagers, insecure 30-somethings and frustrated Middle agers. The music videos, movies, netflix all filled with this stuff. (That is why something like "Stranger Things" is so refreshing)

American culture has always celebrated righteous strength in its own uniquely, childlike way (Again, Strabger Things..Smiley). Somewhere along the way, it has lost the script to unnecessary teenage angst (George Carlin was so damn right about this) and Sexual discovery. The capitalists have ruined it for you guys in their never-ending quest to make profit out of Sex.
legendary
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Gun control killed the people in Gilroy.


Gilroy festival was a GUN FREE ZONE. Gun control was in place. Guess what happens...



Gilroy festival was a GUN FREE ZONE. Gun control was in place. Guess what happens in gun free zones? LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES.


Cool

Unfortunately I could not find the land area of 'gun free zones', but I would guess that it is a fraction of a percent of the total.

I could not pick from the number of hilarious cartoons about how stupid the gun-free zone joke is, so:

  https://www.google.com/search?q=gun+free+zone+cartoon&tbm=isch

legendary
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Actually, it is 4 dead at least. One of them is one of the shooters. See what the democrats and leftists are promoting?

This is incredibly distasteful bullshit. Some people were just murdered for no good reason and your reaction is to blame "democrats and leftists?" Try blaming the shooter, you complete asshole of a human being.

He clearly isn't blaming them for the shooting, but drawing attention to the fact that these events are constantly used as cudgels to attempt to take away rights they don't agree with. Some would say the people trying to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves because they are fearful are complete assholes of human beings. California is one of the most restrictive states in the nation for firearm ownership. Its almost like these laws only disarm people who obey the law...

Taking ownership is not the forte of these folks.  It's a stone-cold fact that this is exactly the modus operandi of the aforementioned, and they do it within minutes.  Sometimes even before the event occurred oddly enough.

legendary
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Gun control killed the people in Gilroy.


Gilroy festival was a GUN FREE ZONE. Gun control was in place. Guess what happens...



Gilroy festival was a GUN FREE ZONE. Gun control was in place. Guess what happens in gun free zones? LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS CAN'T PROTECT THEMSELVES.


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legendary
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If a shooting happens, and your first response is "Oh, leftists are bad!!!", you're a douchebag.

I thought you were supposed to be a Christian but it turns out you're a callous psychopath who enjoys making light of and politicizing the slaughter of innocent people.

You need to get out and interact with actual people.

Your posts are a clear sign you are consuming entirely too much internet, and spend far too much time alone. Maybe you and TECSHARE should make plans to meet up at a gun convention some day, it would be good for the both of you to get some sunshine and some fresh air.

It's the leftist promotion of medical drugs that's causing most of the bizzarre shootings. Kids get ahold of their parents drugs, and take off on a shooting binge.

Besides, if the first response had been something like, "Oh, leftists are bad," we would have gotten control of medical drugs long ago. This thought is only surfacing now, after years of shootings like this.

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legendary
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He clearly isn't blaming them for the shooting, but drawing attention to the fact that these events are constantly used as cudgels to attempt to take away rights they don't agree with. Some would say the people trying to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves because they are fearful are complete assholes of human beings. California is one of the most restrictive states in the nation for firearm ownership. Its almost like these laws only disarm people who obey the law...

For your reference, the title of BADecker's thread is "16 Shot, 3 Dead At California Garlic Festival; Shooter Still At Large," which has nothing to do with "leftists." I'm not reading the ZeroHedge version of events because I could care less about what they have to say.

Nobody is trying to "prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves," but that's a nice man made out of straw you built there.

Its not unreasonable to ask people not to bring firearms to a garlic festival.

What BADecker is actually trying to do is deflect away from the fact that this was another mass shooting by a disgruntled white supremacist who legally purchased a military-grade weapon.

It's almost like leftists want to restrict the availability of semi-automatic firearms in order to cut down on mass shootings... how dare they.

The problem is what you intend is not the same as the result of what you are advocating for. You claim you don't want to disarm law abiding citizens, but criminals who are murderers clearly don't give a fuck about the laws. As a result, the restrictions on firearms EXCLUSIVELY disarm law abiding citizens. I am sure if they had just asked the shooter kindly to not bring firearms to the festival everything would have been fine right? BTW, a "military grade weapon" is fully automatic, not that you know a damn thing about firearms.
legendary
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If a shooting happens, and your first response is "Oh, leftists are bad!!!", you're a douchebag.

I thought you were supposed to be a Christian but it turns out you're a callous psychopath who enjoys making light of and politicizing the slaughter of innocent people.

You need to get out and interact with actual people.

Your posts are a clear sign you are consuming entirely too much internet, and spend far too much time alone. Maybe you and TECSHARE should make plans to meet up at a gun convention some day, it would be good for the both of you to get some sunshine and some fresh air.
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another fake story to get guns banned.

lol still thinking guns are a threat to the drones that can shoot you from 1000`s of miles away, yah guns useless at this point anyways brother man.
legendary
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He clearly isn't blaming them for the shooting, but drawing attention to the fact that these events are constantly used as cudgels to attempt to take away rights they don't agree with. Some would say the people trying to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves because they are fearful are complete assholes of human beings. California is one of the most restrictive states in the nation for firearm ownership. Its almost like these laws only disarm people who obey the law...

For your reference, the title of BADecker's thread is "16 Shot, 3 Dead At California Garlic Festival; Shooter Still At Large," which has nothing to do with "leftists." I'm not reading the ZeroHedge version of events because I could care less about what they have to say.

Nobody is trying to "prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves," but that's a nice man made out of straw you built there.

Its not unreasonable to ask people not to bring firearms to a garlic festival.

What BADecker is actually trying to do is deflect away from the fact that this was another mass shooting by a disgruntled white supremacist who legally purchased a military-grade weapon.

It's almost like leftists want to restrict the availability of semi-automatic firearms in order to cut down on mass shootings... how dare they.

You sound sooo on the defensive. If the Dems promoted less medical drugs rather than more, there might not be any drug-crazed shooters.

Open carry at festivals would provide average people with some form of protection. Besides, the ultra-liberals wouldn't be able to hold naked bike rides any longer... if they were wearing a gun. Cheesy

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legendary
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He clearly isn't blaming them for the shooting, but drawing attention to the fact that these events are constantly used as cudgels to attempt to take away rights they don't agree with. Some would say the people trying to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves because they are fearful are complete assholes of human beings. California is one of the most restrictive states in the nation for firearm ownership. Its almost like these laws only disarm people who obey the law...

For your reference, the title of BADecker's thread is "16 Shot, 3 Dead At California Garlic Festival; Shooter Still At Large," which has nothing to do with "leftists." I'm not reading the ZeroHedge version of events because I could care less about what they have to say.

Nobody is trying to "prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves," but that's a nice man made out of straw you built there.

Its not unreasonable to ask people not to bring firearms to a garlic festival.

What BADecker is actually trying to do is deflect away from the fact that this was another mass shooting by a disgruntled white supremacist who legally purchased a military-grade weapon.

It's almost like leftists want to restrict the availability of semi-automatic firearms in order to cut down on mass shootings... how dare they.
legendary
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Actually, it is 4 dead at least. One of them is one of the shooters. See what the democrats and leftists are promoting?

This is incredibly distasteful bullshit. Some people were just murdered for no good reason and your reaction is to blame "democrats and leftists?" Try blaming the shooter, you complete asshole of a human being.

He clearly isn't blaming them for the shooting, but drawing attention to the fact that these events are constantly used as cudgels to attempt to take away rights they don't agree with. Some would say the people trying to prevent law abiding citizens from defending themselves because they are fearful are complete assholes of human beings. California is one of the most restrictive states in the nation for firearm ownership. Its almost like these laws only disarm people who obey the law...
legendary
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Actually, it is 4 dead at least. One of them is one of the shooters. See what the democrats and leftists are promoting?

This is incredibly distasteful bullshit. Some people were just murdered for no good reason and your reaction is to blame "democrats and leftists?" Try blaming the shooter, you complete asshole of a human being.
legendary
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Please show the evidence of where it is expressed to be fake. Or is your post the only evidence?


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another fake story to get guns banned.
legendary
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Actually, it is 4 dead at least. One of them is one of the shooters. See what the democrats and leftists are promoting?


16 Shot, 3 Dead At California Garlic Festival; Shooter Still At Large



Santa Clara Valley Medical Center spokeswoman Joy Alexiou told ABC News that the hospital has received two victims from the shooting and expects three more. She had no information on their conditions.

The shooter is reportedly a white man in his 30s using an automatic weapon.

Festival-goer Evenny Reyes of Gilroy, 13, told the San Jose Mercury News she thought the gunshots were fireworks at first, but then she saw a man with a bandana wrapped around his leg because he got shot.

    "And there were people on the ground, crying. There was a little kid hurt on the ground. People were throwing tables and cutting fences to get out."

The Gilroy Garlic Festival started in 1979 and Sunday was the final day of event, according to the festival website.

Live Feed from NBC Bay Area:


If you have a slower computer and Internet, and you want to go to zerohedge.com, I recommend that once a good portion of the site is loaded, that you disconnect your Internet (modem) temporarily. This will let you view the page info, because zerohedge loads all kinds of BS info that will bog your computer down.

You might try seaching in a search engine for the headline. Doing so will give you many more friendlier sites that zerohedge is.



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