Topic: 2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE? (Read 8843 times)

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

I have not seen anybody selling goods or services in bitcoin that isn't pegged to the price in fiat. 130BTC buys a lot more now then it did 8 months ago, so you should care.

I can tell you at least 10 goods or services sold in BTC and not pegged to fiat. First example: Avalon ASICs

Yeah well, with the recent pricing of the avalons you can say that they generously float way above any pegged pricing.
The best bit is that avalon buys all its goods and services in fiat so they need to convert any bitcoins anyway.
They first peg their price, then start to move the peg around.
Expect stuff to start bleeding soon.

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Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM

Why the hell do you need anti-virus software? You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom. It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Right, because REAL hackers can keep up with their 4GHz cpu and can check every command processed by it.
That is the true path of the CPfoo ninjas.

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Quote from: Pharaoh on March 29, 2013, 11:06:01 PM

Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 11:27:58 PM

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

I have not seen anybody selling goods or services in bitcoin that isn't pegged to the price in fiat. 130BTC buys a lot more now then it did 8 months ago, so you should care.

I can tell you at least 10 goods or services sold in BTC and not pegged to fiat. First example: Avalon ASICs

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Avalon is now priced in BTC only, beginning with batch 3.

Like Yifu says "The loop has been closed."

Yeah, as long as the price of bitcoin continues to rise when compared to fiat then it is a good idea for them since, I assume, they are paying all of their component manufacturers in fiat. The rise in bitcoin just means extra profit for them. If the price of bitcoin were to crash to $1 then I doubt they would continue to honor the current price.

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Quote from: Zeek_W on October 25, 2012, 05:28:00 PM

BFL should NEVER EVER announce a product withe a release date again. They should squirrel away with the VC and profits from FPGAs then one day go:
"Oh hey everybody, you can buy this awesome device NOW, we have them in stock"

Ha! The greed here is so thick why do that when ppl will throw money at u?

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Quote from: Pharaoh on March 29, 2013, 11:06:01 PM

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

I have not seen anybody selling goods or services in bitcoin that isn't pegged to the price in fiat. 130BTC buys a lot more now then it did 8 months ago, so you should care.

Avalon is now priced in BTC only, beginning with batch 3.

Like Yifu says "The loop has been closed."

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Quote from: Bogart on March 29, 2013, 07:23:29 PM

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

I have not seen anybody selling goods or services in bitcoin that isn't pegged to the price in fiat. 130BTC buys a lot more now then it did 8 months ago, so you should care.

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Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:19:26 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 29, 2013, 07:12:51 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM

Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM

Why the hell do you need anti-virus software? You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom. It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

I think an AV is a good thing when you want to browse with lesser risks. It happens occasionally that websites are infected. Its better to be protected this way if you dont want to lose functions of the browser/websites. Its not secure but better than nothing. Only my thinking...

You know what's more secure, if you think you'll need it? A browser in a VM. Save the VM state first, and when you're done browsing, just roll back.

Added layer of protection, install sandboxie in the VM and launch the browser in that. Install noscript add-on if you're extra worried.

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Quote from: Pharaoh on March 29, 2013, 07:23:03 PM

I just want to point out again for the nth time that if you bought $1,300 in bitcoin instead of preordered a BFL back when bitcoin was under $10 then you would have over $11,700 today Roll Eyes

No. You would have ~130BTC. Who cares about fiat?

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Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:19:26 PM

Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 29, 2013, 07:12:51 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM

Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM

Why the hell do you need anti-virus software? You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom. It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

I think an AV is a good thing when you want to browse with lesser risks. It happens occasionally that websites are infected. Its better to be protected this way if you dont want to lose functions of the browser/websites. Its not secure but better than nothing. Only my thinking...

You know what's more secure, if you think you'll need it? A browser in a VM. Save the VM state first, and when you're done browsing, just roll back.

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I just want to point out again for the nth time that if you bought $1,300 in bitcoin instead of preordered a BFL back when bitcoin was under $10 then you would have over $11,700 today Roll Eyes

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 29, 2013, 07:12:51 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM

Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM

Why the hell do you need anti-virus software? You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom. It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

I think an AV is a good thing when you want to browse with lesser risks. It happens occasionally that websites are infected. Its better to be protected this way if you dont want to lose functions of the browser/websites. Its not secure but better than nothing. Only my thinking...

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on March 29, 2013, 07:12:51 PM

Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM

Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM

Why the hell do you need anti-virus software? You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom. It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

lol that was the joke :p

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Quote from: SebastianJu on March 29, 2013, 07:04:25 PM

Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM

Why the hell do you need anti-virus software? You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom. It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

I think you meant Java and not JS.

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Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM

Why the hell do you need anti-virus software? You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom. It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

Sure... and you are one of the guys that disable javascript just in case some virus will try to penetrate your system? Wink

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This BFl guys make me panic. Who's willing to bet that at least 30% of first units shipped will break, burn and/or fail during the first month of use?

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So, to go back on topic, help me to understand the supposed state of BFL's chips. There seems to be a lot of confusion about that.

Wafer #1: "Burned" for testing with some crazy wire bonded rig that was apparently of dubious benefit.
Wafer #2: Bumped, diced, packaged, and in testing. Some soldered onto boards.
Wafers #3-6: Huh

Are they still just wafers? Have they been bumped yet? Diced and packaged?
Wafers #7-12: Huh

Last we'd heard the top few metal layers were being held back. Have they given the go-ahead yet to finalize them? If so, when was it given?
Wafers #13+: Huh

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Quote from: Easy2Mine on October 26, 2012, 10:15:55 AM

Quote from: Zeek_W on October 26, 2012, 08:55:40 AM

Quote from: Easy2Mine on October 26, 2012, 08:21:50 AM

I collect my bitcoins on a dedicated laptop inside a VMWare image and backup the wallet and put that backup in another house.
Just in case if my laptop got stolen.

One thing I just 'love' is people explaining their security measures. A healthy dose of paranoia goes a long way with the back stabbing that goes on these days

If you only have a few bitcoins, then I wouldn't bother to take some extra security measure.
But if you already collect more than 1k like a lot people already have hoard.
I don't think it is wise to keep your wallet unprotected.
Why would the developers of bitcoin adding a encrypt funtion into the client if NOBODY going to steal it.

They didn't at first. They only did after the first wave of thefts happened. Reactive instead of proactive.

But I think we are getting waaay off-topic here.

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Quote from: SistaS0uljah on October 28, 2012, 04:11:50 PM

Why the hell do you need anti-virus software? You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

This.

Installing "antivirus" software is a sure sign of n00bdom. It says that you have no faith in your ability to retain control of your own system.

Us real h4x0rz never use the stuff.

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Is there any way to know how many machines/GH are still open/ordered at BFL? Only just in case they start to ship the first asic it would be interesting to know how many are before an order you would make then.

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the scam where.."we actually didn't start planning anything until jan 5 Tongue

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Quote from: yrtrnc on October 25, 2012, 04:41:05 PM

Things are getting rather exciting Grin

I bet you are looking forward to holding that parcel with your Jalapeño or single "sc" in it..

So what's the latest on the hardware shipping dates? Will BFL make it happen this time, or is it all gonna be delayed to next year??

I CANT GET O FEEL SIMPATHY FOR THIS POSTER

7 MONTHS LATER AND NOTHING SHIPPED YET

APRIL IS 2 DAYS AWAY

AND WE HAVE AN UPDATE FOR STRING ALONG OSCAR NOMINATED SCAM ARTIST JOSH
THAT THEY WILL SHEEP SOON LOL
BUT THEY JUST NOT WANNA PUT A DATE ON IT YET?

ARE U FAKIN KIDDING ME?

OH AND HALF THE CHIPS DUBBLE THE POWER USAGE LOL

THIS SCAM KEEPS GEETIGN BETTER AND BETTER

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Personal text my ass....

Quote from: yrtrnc on October 25, 2012, 04:41:05 PM

Things are getting rather exciting Grin

I bet you are looking forward to holding that parcel with your Jalapeño or single "sc" in it..

So what's the latest on the hardware shipping dates? Will BFL make it happen this time, or is it all gonna be delayed to next year??

How naive we all were at this point.

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Quote from: squid on October 25, 2012, 04:43:16 PM

2-3 weeks until hardware is shipped out that has yet to provide proof of a working device. Seems like that isn't enough time to go from board prototype to shipment.

yeah 6 months later seems

like squid new what he was talking about:)

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Quote from: NEO2012 on March 07, 2013, 03:23:01 PM

CONFIRMED BFL FAN BOY TROLL WHO POSTED THE PIC

I see why your ignore button is highlighted

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Quote from: NEO2012 on March 07, 2013, 03:23:01 PM

Quote from: 420 on March 07, 2013, 03:18:35 PM

Quote from: yrtrnc on October 25, 2012, 04:41:05 PM

Things are getting rather exciting Grin

I bet you are looking forward to holding that parcel with your Jalapeño or single "sc" in it..

So what's the latest on the hardware shipping dates? Will BFL make it happen this time, or is it all gonna be delayed to next year??

LOL CHECK THIS DUDE OUT IN OCTOBER OF 2012 HE DREAMS ABOUT BFL ASIC UMBOXING:) IN 2 -3 WEEKS

7 MONTHS LATER MARCH 2013 NOT EVEN BFL HAS A WORKING UNIT

NOT THE NAIVE FRUICAKE WHO UTERED THE POST:)

OH WELL

BUT HEY ACORDING TO JOSH IN 2-3 WEKKS WE WILL HAVE ASICS IN HAND LOL:)

WOW WOW WOWZ

MOUNTING FANS IN MINIRIG FOR THE THE JANUARY SHOW?

THIS IMAGE IS FAKE BY JOSH ADMITION THEY HAVE CHIPS AT PACKAGING
SUBSTRATES AKA CHIPS CANT EVEN BE ON ABOARD YET

YET PICTURE IMPLIES FINAL ASEBLY

CONFIRMED BFL FAN BOY TROLL WHO POSTED THE PIC

Nothing wrong in this pic, that's not a ASIC to begin with.

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Quote from: squid on October 26, 2012, 06:11:48 AM

LOL CHECK THIS DUDE OUT IN OCTOBER OF 2012 HE DREAMS ABOUT BFL ASIC UMBOXING:) IN 2 -3 WEEKS
7 MONTHS LATER MARCH 2013 NOT EVEN BFL HAS A WORKING UNIT

If you want to communicate properly, it would help if (1) you corrected your maths: 5 months not 7, and if (2) you STOPPED SHOUTING please.

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Quote from: Frequency on October 26, 2012, 05:08:33 AM

Quote from: AmDD on October 25, 2012, 04:49:06 PM

Just saw this posted in another thread...

Quote from: psilan on October 25, 2012, 04:24:07 PM

Quote from: BFL_Josh;3000

We are not going to be shipping the first week of November, I can definitely say that. We are waiting on the bulk chips from the foundry, that is really the major delay right now. As soon as that dam breaks loose, we pretty much have everything else either ready to go or in the pipeline to be completed shortly.

Q: when

Quote from: BFL_Josh;3004

They are not done yet. We are paying for what's called a "bullet run" though, which is essentially an expedited process to get the chips done sooner.

> From BFL forums
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/104-Shipping-in-2-3-weeks/page8

They will probably hire some extra staff to make the 700pc a day runs going on with there haevily invested production equipment they bought this month a face tot face section of there employees at there production facility be cool on there website, but without sunclasses Cool

haha..GL and just click my link@sig would give u some rest... Kiss

How does that even make sense? They don't even have the chips yet.. but what about soldering everything to the PCB? Who does that? Do they even have their PCB yet?

PCB is mostly done by machines, its not an issue. They say PCB is already finished, just waiting for chips to complete.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on October 26, 2012, 08:04:39 AM

Quote from: Zeek_W on October 25, 2012, 05:28:00 PM

BFL should NEVER EVER announce a product withe a release date again. They should squirrel away with the VC and profits from FPGAs then one day go:
"Oh hey everybody, you can buy this awesome device NOW, we have them in stock"

Why would they do that?

Nov will turn into Dec and right around the time people get pissed they will demo a board or two and promise shipment will go soon. Soon will turn in January or maybe February and even then the product will come out in a trickle.

I mean going that route made them a mint when selling FPGA. Their customers paid up front, they didn't have to risk any of their own capital, and the way early pre-announcement killed sales of competitors. A win-win-win.

Why wouldn't they do it again? Given the bitcoin community rewarded them for their prior business actions (accepting orders based on a simulation, grossly inaccurate specs, false shipping times, etc) why would they change?

D&T, whats your plan for future mining or you quit completely?

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Quote from: 420 on March 07, 2013, 03:18:35 PM

Quote from: yrtrnc on October 25, 2012, 04:41:05 PM

Things are getting rather exciting Grin

I bet you are looking forward to holding that parcel with your Jalapeño or single "sc" in it..

So what's the latest on the hardware shipping dates? Will BFL make it happen this time, or is it all gonna be delayed to next year??

LOL CHECK THIS DUDE OUT IN OCTOBER OF 2012 HE DREAMS ABOUT BFL ASIC UMBOXING:) IN 2 -3 WEEKS

7 MONTHS LATER MARCH 2013 NOT EVEN BFL HAS A WORKING UNIT

NOT THE NAIVE FRUICAKE WHO UTERED THE POST:)

OH WELL

BUT HEY ACORDING TO JOSH IN 2-3 WEKKS WE WILL HAVE ASICS IN HAND LOL:)

WOW WOW WOWZ

MOUNTING FANS IN MINIRIG FOR THE THE JANUARY SHOW?

THIS IMAGE IS FAKE BY JOSH ADMITION THEY HAVE CHIPS AT PACKAGING
SUBSTRATES AKA CHIPS CANT EVEN BE ON ABOARD YET

YET PICTURE IMPLIES FINAL ASEBLY

CONFIRMED BFL FAN BOY TROLL WHO POSTED THE PIC

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Quote from: yrtrnc on October 25, 2012, 04:41:05 PM

Things are getting rather exciting Grin

I bet you are looking forward to holding that parcel with your Jalapeño or single "sc" in it..

So what's the latest on the hardware shipping dates? Will BFL make it happen this time, or is it all gonna be delayed to next year??

LOL CHECK THIS DUDE OUT IN OCTOBER OF 2012 HE DREAMS ABOUT BFL ASIC UMBOXING:) IN 2 -3 WEEKS

7 MONTHS LATER MARCH 2013 NOT EVEN BFL HAS A WORKING UNIT

NOT THE NAIVE FRUICAKE WHO UTERED THE POST:)

OH WELL

BUT HEY ACORDING TO JOSH IN 2-3 WEKKS WE WILL HAVE ASICS IN HAND LOL:)

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Quote from: yrtrnc on October 25, 2012, 04:41:05 PM

Things are getting rather exciting Grin

I bet you are looking forward to holding that parcel with your Jalapeño or single "sc" in it..

So what's the latest on the hardware shipping dates? Will BFL make it happen this time, or is it all gonna be delayed to next year??

LOL CHECK THIS DUDE OUT IN OCTOBER OF 2012 HE DREAMS ABOUT BFL ASIC UMBOXING:) IN 2 -3 WEEKS

7 MONTHS LATER MARCH 2013 NOT EVEN BFL HAS A WORKING UNIT

NOT THE NAIVE FRUICAKE WHO UTERED THE POST:)

OH WELL

BUT HEY ACORDING TO JOSH IN 2-3 WEKKS WE WILL HAVE ASICS IN HAND LOL:)

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Btw,

forget to thankyou Ckolivas for all your great contributions, just planning to use your scheduler: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_Fuck_Scheduler

Grin

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Quote from: crazyates on October 26, 2012, 10:22:33 AM

Boy, you all just got trolled hard.

I'm not trolling. This is serious debate, which is actualy not started by me, but ckolivas looking down on me. I just countered with truth.

The fact remains none of you really know ckolivas. The fact remains all he needs to do to steal countless wallets in future is to deploy
payload which can do theft in some future upgrade of his miner. Your anti-virus software won't even notice, since you have his miner on
exclusion list for years now, and possibly even forgot about it all. But it won't happen, right? "He is a very nice guy, and you are stupid!"

If you think it would be first time in history that people got scammed by someone who built trust with community-dedicated hard work
over prolonged period of time, than you're really dumb.

Those who didn't learn from past mistakes are destined to repeat them.

Why the hell do you need anti-virus software? You're not stupid enough to keep your wallet on a Windows box are you?

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: bce on October 27, 2012, 11:13:54 PM

Quote from: viperzero on October 27, 2012, 06:46:19 PM

I think this explains the picture & Ckolivas comment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat

Haha - totally forgot about Schrodinger's Cat. Am so glad the cat is alive Huh

This image haunts me.

Am glad to hear cgminer will work with BFL SC line Grin

Ckolivas and lodcrappo - BAMT and cgminer work so nicely together! My little 7 GPU mining setup has been running reliably for months, even on a weak wifi signal... I just wish I had discovered this genius combination a year or so ago. From 95F to 30F ambient temps, I never have to worry about fan settings, auto-downclocking etc with cgminer. The best part is how it all can be reset with a simple power cycle, by using BAMTs ultra-easy config file. Although cgminer can be re-added to BAMT, it'd be a shame for an updated version of it not to be included in the BAMT image. People should have the option of a future version of cgminer, so they can discover from day 1 of testing that cgminer will have been the correct choice.

Lodcrappo, Ckolivas is a non-stop improver, and I'm sure cgminer will continue to have its strengths over other miners in the ASIC era. I'm looking forward to the next BAMT release, where it'll be run on a mix of FPGA and ASIC (and possibly GPUs to heat my garage area ambient temp to above freezing during this transitional time)

!

Thanks. However I'm pretty sure Lodcrappo won't be reading this particular forum thread.

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Quote from: viperzero on October 27, 2012, 06:46:19 PM

I think this explains the picture & Ckolivas comment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat

Haha - totally forgot about Schrodinger's Cat. Am so glad the cat is alive Huh

This image haunts me.

Am glad to hear cgminer will work with BFL SC line Grin

Ckolivas and lodcrappo - BAMT and cgminer work so nicely together! My little 7 GPU mining setup has been running reliably for months, even on a weak wifi signal... I just wish I had discovered this genius combination a year or so ago. From 95F to 30F ambient temps, I never have to worry about fan settings, auto-downclocking etc with cgminer. The best part is how it all can be reset with a simple power cycle, by using BAMTs ultra-easy config file. Although cgminer can be re-added to BAMT, it'd be a shame for an updated version of it not to be included in the BAMT image. People should have the option of a future version of cgminer, so they can discover from day 1 of testing that cgminer will have been the correct choice.

Lodcrappo, Ckolivas is a non-stop improver, and I'm sure cgminer will continue to have its strengths over other miners in the ASIC era. I'm looking forward to the next BAMT release, where it'll be run on a mix of FPGA and ASIC (and possibly GPUs to heat my garage area ambient temp to above freezing during this transitional time)

!

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I think this explains the picture & Ckolivas comment:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger's_cat

-ck

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Ruu \o/

Quote from: squid on October 27, 2012, 03:02:19 PM

Quote from: bce on October 27, 2012, 02:00:12 PM

Does anybody know if cgminer will be able to work with the new ASICs? It's the only miner I use in my BAMT setup

I know the author of cgminer is working directly with Tom for the bASIC hardware support.

Yes, I will be developing for both bASIC and the BFL SC devices. However, BAMT is dropping support for cgminer.
See: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1146320

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Quote from: bce on October 27, 2012, 02:00:12 PM

Does anybody know if cgminer will be able to work with the new ASICs? It's the only miner I use in my BAMT setup

I know the author of cgminer is working directly with Tom for the bASIC hardware support.

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I would think so yes..

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Does anybody know if cgminer will be able to work with the new ASICs? It's the only miner I use in my BAMT setup

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lol.... ^

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In cryptography we trust

Quote from: AndrewBUD on October 27, 2012, 09:51:22 AM

Quote from: sharky112065 on October 26, 2012, 04:35:22 PM

Hi everyone!

What you want to be revealed to you today? Cheesy

Anyone with an IQ of 50 or higher should be able to compile Cgminer on Windows.

Irrelevant. It's about the threats of CGMiner complied and provided by it's author.

Quote from: DoomDumas on October 26, 2012, 11:01:51 PM

so SubStrata, you won a place in the "less than 5" I ignore, in thousands of hours reading this forum... I'm glad you're proud of it Wink

Being ignored by retards in an achievement.

Quote from: poon-TANG on October 27, 2012, 04:09:22 AM

Im running AVAST and it shows 8 infected files. All are reported as "Unix:Malware-gen" Threat:HIGH

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

You found retards in an achievement? Were they stuck in there pretty good?

What being was ignored by the retards during his achievement (what was he trying to achieve anyway) Huh

This is very confusing.

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Quote from: sharky112065 on October 26, 2012, 04:35:22 PM

Hi everyone!

What you want to be revealed to you today? Cheesy

Anyone with an IQ of 50 or higher should be able to compile Cgminer on Windows.

Irrelevant. It's about the threats of CGMiner complied and provided by it's author.

Quote from: DoomDumas on October 26, 2012, 11:01:51 PM

so SubStrata, you won a place in the "less than 5" I ignore, in thousands of hours reading this forum... I'm glad you're proud of it Wink

Being ignored by retards in an achievement.

Quote from: poon-TANG on October 27, 2012, 04:09:22 AM

Im running AVAST and it shows 8 infected files. All are reported as "Unix:Malware-gen" Threat:HIGH

Are you suggesting coconuts migrate?

You found retards in an achievement? Were they stuck in there pretty good?

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Quote from: deeplink on October 27, 2012, 08:57:09 AM

Quote from: SLok on October 27, 2012, 08:39:44 AM

Quote from: Frizz23 on October 27, 2012, 02:48:00 AM

Would you mind if I hijack the thread back to the OT ("2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?")?

I have 3 major concerns regarding BFLs ASICs

1) Despite some promises that we will get an updated time schedule this week - no new information has been made available.

2) About 4 weeks ago BFL asked the community do chose a representative to go visit BFLs premises. Yochdog has been chosen - but still no word from BFL when to go.

3) BFL does not know for sure if their ASICs will work - or not. It's all based on simulation - there is STILL no prototype yet.

Question (yesterday): "Does BFL have a working (hashing) prototype ASIC miner?"
Josh: "No, we are waiting on our ASIC chips right now, ...".

This clown Frizz32 was banned from the BFL forums, for posting under different accounts with BFL prefix in the account names.
1) they were to busy removing all your spamming under different names on the BFL forum, so it's you that is to blame.
2) so they have to inform you about matters that not involve you?
3) have you cancelled your supposed order yet Frizz32 aka BFL_Lab_Rat aka BFL-Mitt aka BFL_Obama? Your order is as fake as your numerous accounts you use, here too, right?

You can be mad at Frizz23, but that is not really any of my concern. The points he is making are relevant. If there are no ASIC prototype chips yet, it will take a lot longer than 2-3 weeks to get a package from BFL.

Nor is your concern my concern, that is why I addressed Frizz32, and not you. The questions this turd brought up are asked dozens of times now, legitimate, but no longer from his mouth.
Plus that the post he made was almost 1 on 1 copied from the BFL forum user m0mchil. If that is another Frizz32 alias, I don't know.
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/228-Three-main-concerns

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Quote from: deeplink on October 27, 2012, 08:57:09 AM

Quote from: SLok on October 27, 2012, 08:39:44 AM

Quote from: Frizz23 on October 27, 2012, 02:48:00 AM

Would you mind if I hijack the thread back to the OT ("2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?")?

I have 3 major concerns regarding BFLs ASICs

1) Despite some promises that we will get an updated time schedule this week - no new information has been made available.

2) About 4 weeks ago BFL asked the community do chose a representative to go visit BFLs premises. Yochdog has been chosen - but still no word from BFL when to go.

3) BFL does not know for sure if their ASICs will work - or not. It's all based on simulation - there is STILL no prototype yet.

Question (yesterday): "Does BFL have a working (hashing) prototype ASIC miner?"
Josh: "No, we are waiting on our ASIC chips right now, ...".

This clown Frizz32 was banned from the BFL forums, for posting under different accounts with BFL prefix in the account names.
1) they were to busy removing all your spamming under different names on the BFL forum, so it's you that is to blame.
2) so they have to inform you about matters that not involve you?
3) have you cancelled your supposed order yet Frizz32 aka BFL_Lab_Rat aka BFL-Mitt aka BFL_Obama? Your order is as fake as your numerous accounts you use, here too, right?

You can be mad at Frizz23, but that is not really any of my concern. The points he is making are relevant. If there are no ASIC prototype chips yet, it will take a lot longer than 2-3 weeks to get a package from BFL.

if you're lucky 2-3 months....

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Quote from: SLok on October 27, 2012, 08:39:44 AM

Quote from: Frizz23 on October 27, 2012, 02:48:00 AM

Would you mind if I hijack the thread back to the OT ("2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?")?

I have 3 major concerns regarding BFLs ASICs

1) Despite some promises that we will get an updated time schedule this week - no new information has been made available.

2) About 4 weeks ago BFL asked the community do chose a representative to go visit BFLs premises. Yochdog has been chosen - but still no word from BFL when to go.

3) BFL does not know for sure if their ASICs will work - or not. It's all based on simulation - there is STILL no prototype yet.

Question (yesterday): "Does BFL have a working (hashing) prototype ASIC miner?"
Josh: "No, we are waiting on our ASIC chips right now, ...".

This clown Frizz32 was banned from the BFL forums, for posting under different accounts with BFL prefix in the account names.
1) they were to busy removing all your spamming under different names on the BFL forum, so it's you that is to blame.
2) so they have to inform you about matters that not involve you?
3) have you cancelled your supposed order yet Frizz32 aka BFL_Lab_Rat aka BFL-Mitt aka BFL_Obama? Your order is as fake as your numerous accounts you use, here too, right?

You can be mad at Frizz23, but that is not really any of my concern. The points he is making are relevant. If there are no ASIC prototype chips yet, it will take a lot longer than 2-3 weeks to get a package from BFL.

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Quote from: AndrewBUD on October 27, 2012, 08:52:34 AM

hahaha BFL Obama....... can I buy one of those?

Only if your a superPAC

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hahaha BFL Obama....... can I buy one of those?

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Quote from: Frizz23 on October 27, 2012, 02:48:00 AM

Would you mind if I hijack the thread back to the OT ("2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?")?

I have 3 major concerns regarding BFLs ASICs

1) Despite some promises that we will get an updated time schedule this week - no new information has been made available.

2) About 4 weeks ago BFL asked the community do chose a representative to go visit BFLs premises. Yochdog has been chosen - but still no word from BFL when to go.

3) BFL does not know for sure if their ASICs will work - or not. It's all based on simulation - there is STILL no prototype yet.

Question (yesterday): "Does BFL have a working (hashing) prototype ASIC miner?"
Josh: "No, we are waiting on our ASIC chips right now, ...".

This clown Frizz32 was banned from the BFL forums, for posting under different accounts with BFL prefix in the account names.
1) they were to busy removing all your spamming under different names on the BFL forum, so it's you that is to blame.
2) so they have to inform you about matters that not involve you?
3) have you cancelled your supposed order yet Frizz32 aka BFL_Lab_Rat aka BFL-Mitt aka BFL_Obama? Your order is as fake as your numerous accounts you use, here too, right?

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Quote from: Frizz23 on October 27, 2012, 02:48:00 AM

Would you mind if I hijack the thread back to the OT ("2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?")?

I have 3 major concerns regarding BFLs ASICs

1) Despite some promises that we will get an updated time schedule this week - no new information has been made available.

2) About 4 weeks ago BFL asked the community do chose a representative to go visit BFLs premises. Yochdog has been chosen - but still no word from BFL when to go.

3) BFL does not know for sure if their ASICs will work - or not. It's all based on simulation - there is STILL no prototype yet.

Question (yesterday): "Does BFL have a working (hashing) prototype ASIC miner?"
Josh: "No, we are waiting on our ASIC chips right now, ...".

Dude you;re getting off topic here.. We're talking about cgminer Tongue

edit: yes ASIC's will be uber late..

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1)Point CGminer @ Pool.
2)Mine to Address on Cellphone/Tablet/VM/Offline key
3) Huh

4)PROFIT!!!!

CGminer is on my exclusions list. Big fucking DEAL. If you're smart, your wallet is in an encrypted offline format somewhere, where only you can get to it. Mining 101 people, don't be dumb.

subSTRATA, quit being a troll.

And if you're not trolling, go herp-derp in the newbie section again until you can recite 1 through 4 by heart.

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Quote from: Zeek_W on October 27, 2012, 01:48:59 AM

Well this is somewhat scary:
Not sure if this link will work for others though
https://www.virustotal.com/file/599e5e30f7311aa062a257e82de1a96711c90fc2c8a9e351c80ec514a91be9a0/analysis/1351319824/

That is a scan of "cgminer-2.8.5-win32.zip"

Im running AVAST and it shows 8 infected files. All are reported as "Unix:Malware-gen" Threat:HIGH

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Would you mind if I hijack the thread back to the OT ("2-3 weeks to go until the first unboxing of a BFL ASIC?? MAYBE?")?

I have 3 major concerns regarding BFLs ASICs

1) Despite some promises that we will get an updated time schedule this week - no new information has been made available.

2) About 4 weeks ago BFL asked the community do chose a representative to go visit BFLs premises. Yochdog has been chosen - but still no word from BFL when to go.

3) BFL does not know for sure if their ASICs will work - or not. It's all based on simulation - there is STILL no prototype yet.

Question (yesterday): "Does BFL have a working (hashing) prototype ASIC miner?"
Josh: "No, we are waiting on our ASIC chips right now, ...".

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Quote from: kano on October 27, 2012, 01:50:45 AM

Read the README ...

Yeah I know - shoulda explained my last post. I was going to see how many false positives it brings up

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Read the README ...

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Well this is somewhat scary:
Not sure if this link will work for others though
https://www.virustotal.com/file/599e5e30f7311aa062a257e82de1a96711c90fc2c8a9e351c80ec514a91be9a0/analysis/1351319824/

That is a scan of "cgminer-2.8.5-win32.zip"

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Quote from: Easy2Mine on October 26, 2012, 08:21:50 AM

Antivirus gives a lot false positives on CGminer.
If you don't trust it, then installed it only on a dedicated miner.
CGminer is TROJAN FREE.
I collect my bitcoins on a dedicated laptop inside a VMWare image and backup the wallet and put that backup in another house.
Just in case if my laptop got stolen.

Nod32, wich I trust, dont return any false positive with CGMiner !
And I trust the Dev team and the community about CGMiner, that's also my favorite miner.

Why poeples dont just mine on a dedicated computer, with a reasonalble size wallet on another computer. And there is an encryption built-in the client, just put a strong password on it and you 98% covered !

Very few are on my ignore list, as I'm for free speech too, some user just pollute threads, and waste my time !

Even having only 1 days 10 hours loggued on the forum, I've less than 5 on my ignore list.. (I've been reading this forum for hundreds if not thousands of hours, just not loggued in, I log only since "giving signature to win an ASIC Wink

so SubStrata, you won a place in the "less than 5" I ignore, in thousands of hours reading this forum... I'm glad you're proud of it Wink

Chow-Bye

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Heh, I've now got 2 reasons to tell people they are trying for a substrata award:
1) nut-cases who want to tell everyone what they MUST be doing
2) those who are afraid to the run a binary release that they think is a virus (i.e. their computer is smarter than them) but also too lazy to do the steps written down to compile it

There's a doc in there (windows-build.txt) that says, step by step, how to compile it on windows
There's a doc in there (linux-usb-cgminer) that says, step by step, how to install xubuntu on USB or HDD
The README tells you how to compile it on linux

... and there are people who spend their time helping others for free ... (though some donate also)

As for remembering people, yep you certainly are at the top at the moment: being remembered as the most pretentious, delusional, narcissist on the forum.

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Quote from: SaintDevil on October 26, 2012, 10:54:59 AM

I have downloaded the newer version of cgminer and nothing has been detected.

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/aaf0e47ea389718f250505bd64a8be3470c43997

http://free.agnitum.com triggers as well. WinXP DEP triggers too.

Quote from: SaintDevil on October 26, 2012, 10:54:59 AM

You can always compile the program on your own, or keep wallet off mining machine.

You mean those few % of users who know how to do it, and why should they do it?

I rest my case - it's all fine. Your wallets are safe. Cya! Cheesy

Anyone with an IQ of 50 or higher should be able to compile Cgminer on Windows. I spent hours writing the documentation (windows-build.txt) to make it easy for anyone. I spent hours going through it step by step on each version of Windows to make sure anyone could do it.

You already answered as to why someone should do it. Because they are paranoid like you and did not do enough research as to why the false positive exists.

I fully trust the author, but I do compile my own binary with each release I use.

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..yeah

i like this thread.

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Quote from: crazyates on October 26, 2012, 10:22:33 AM

Boy, you all just got trolled hard.

I'm not trolling. This is serious debate, which is actualy not started by me, but ckolivas looking down on me. I just countered with truth.

The fact remains none of you really know ckolivas. The fact remains all he needs to do to steal countless wallets in future is to deploy
payload which can do theft in some future upgrade of his miner. Your anti-virus software won't even notice, since you have his miner on
exclusion list for years now, and possibly even forgot about it all. But it won't happen, right? "He is a very nice guy, and you are stupid!"

If you think it would be first time in history that people got scammed by someone who built trust with community-dedicated hard work
over prolonged period of time, than you're really dumb.

Those who didn't learn from past mistakes are destined to repeat them.

You stupid fucking retard. The source code is posted so you can download, review, and then compile your own cgminer. The false positives have been fully explained both in the forum and in the README. If you do not trust the released binary executable version of the program than don't run it.

I would put you on ignore, but stupid people like you give me funny stuff to read each day.

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Quote from: crazyates on October 26, 2012, 12:45:39 PM

Quote from: SaintDevil on October 26, 2012, 12:10:37 PM

You are right, not many ppl know how to compile, I am a Windows user and I love Linux. And many more of linux users know how to compile, or maybe it just seems that way.

I'll admit, I do not know how to compile software in Windows. Linux? Sure! And I'm not talking about Gentoo's Portage, either (which is my personal flavor of choice. PITA, but I love it).

I compiled once or twice in Linux. I wouldn't even want to try to do it in Windows, would seem to be more complicated.

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Quote from: SaintDevil on October 26, 2012, 12:10:37 PM

You are right, not many ppl know how to compile, I am a Windows user and I love Linux. And many more of linux users know how to compile, or maybe it just seems that way.

I'll admit, I do not know how to compile software in Windows. Linux? Sure! And I'm not talking about Gentoo's Portage, either (which is my personal flavor of choice. PITA, but I love it).

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Quote from: SaintDevil on October 26, 2012, 10:54:59 AM

I have downloaded the newer version of cgminer and nothing has been detected.

http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/aaf0e47ea389718f250505bd64a8be3470c43997

http://free.agnitum.com triggers as well. WinXP DEP triggers too.

Quote from: SaintDevil on October 26, 2012, 10:54:59 AM

You can always compile the program on your own, or keep wallet off mining machine.

You mean those few % of users who know how to do it, and why should they do it?

I rest my case - it's all fine. Your wallets are safe. Cya! Cheesy

I am prob running different antivirus, but as much as I love the simplicity and overclocking possibilities of cgminer, it always freezes on me so I wasn't really able to run it.

You are right, not many ppl know how to compile, I am a Windows user and I love Linux. And many more of linux users know how to compile, or maybe it just seems that way.

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Quote from: crazyates on October 26, 2012, 11:18:48 AM

Reminds me of Bulanula.

You'll remember me as the guy with the most ignores on forum (ever), not scammer. Cool

You don't tell people how they'll remember you. People usually make that decision for themselves.

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He does have a point about a large group of bitcoin users all using the same mining software. If that software is ever compromised, it could be disastrous. CGMiner is technically open source, but I never compile. I just download the 7z with the executable from his website.

However, I completely trust Con and the entire CGMiner team, and I stand by my original assumption that Strata can't get it up without trolling the forums first. Reminds me of Bulanula.

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substrata is just butthurt about something.... Conman does great work... Keep it up....

a lot of things that we use get false positives in A/V programs....

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I had cgminer for a long time, the old version I downloaded. Never brought up an antivirus when I ran it.
Recently though after antivirus upgrade it started pointing out that cgminer has a trojan. I have a serious belief that someone on the big business market doesn't want you to run it.
I have downloaded the newer version of cgminer and nothing has been detected.
You can always compile the program on your own, or keep wallet off mining machine.

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Quote from: crazyates on October 26, 2012, 10:22:33 AM

Boy, you all just got trolled hard.

I'm not trolling. This is serious debate, which is actualy not started by me, but ckolivas looking down on me. I just countered with truth.

The fact remains none of you really know ckolivas. The fact remains all he needs to do to steal countless wallets in future is to deploy
payload which can do theft in some future upgrade of his miner. Your anti-virus software won't even notice, since you have his miner on
exclusion list for years now, and possibly even forgot about it all. But it won't happen, right? "He is a very nice guy, and you are stupid!"

If you think it would be first time in history that people got scammed by someone who built trust with community-dedicated hard work
over prolonged period of time, than you're really dumb.

Those who didn't learn from past mistakes are destined to repeat them.

You read his code and found this? This is not a debate... You being called a moron is not debatable.

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Boy, you all just got trolled hard.

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Quote from: Zeek_W on October 26, 2012, 08:55:40 AM

Quote from: Easy2Mine on October 26, 2012, 08:21:50 AM

I collect my bitcoins on a dedicated laptop inside a VMWare image and backup the wallet and put that backup in another house.
Just in case if my laptop got stolen.

One thing I just 'love' is people explaining their security measures. A healthy dose of paranoia goes a long way with the back stabbing that goes on these days

If you only have a few bitcoins, then I wouldn't bother to take some extra security measure.
But if you already collect more than 1k like a lot people already have hoard.
I don't think it is wise to keep your wallet unprotected.
Why would the developers of bitcoin adding a encrypt funtion into the client if NOBODY going to steal it.

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Quote from: Fiyasko on October 26, 2012, 08:56:04 AM

That may be the most intelligent post I've seen from you yet.

Hey faggot, go back to coding and attaching trojans to your miner!

Wow, Your going STRAIGHT onto my ignore list
Ckolivas is the creator of the legendary CGminer, One of The Best mining programs out there, He publishses all source and is totally transparent about his product.
Your calling him a faggot, Thats derogatory considering that i doubt you know his sexuality, And he has not ever attached a trojan to the CGminer compilable files.
Everyone would see it!

+1

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Will you please stop feeding the troll? Have you seen ckolivas wasting time on answering him? Just add him to the ignore list (or not) and go on!

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Holy crap dood. With all the actual scammers running around here you're going to choose to attack someone that's contributed countless hours of work developing one of the premiere mining programs available? Roll Eyes

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yeah Substrata is quite the tool....

I refuse to ignore anyone though.... Who am I to hinder free speach,, even if it's spewed by a handicap.

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Quote from: Fiyasko on October 26, 2012, 08:56:04 AM

I love you too, retards.

You just lost the little bit of respect you had left around here. Bye

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That may be the most intelligent post I've seen from you yet.

Hey faggot, go back to coding and attaching trojans to your miner!

Wow, Your going STRAIGHT onto my ignore list

Yup, Ive had this guy Ignored for awhile, I see no reason to change that anytime soon...

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Quote from: Easy2Mine on October 26, 2012, 08:21:50 AM

That may be the most intelligent post I've seen from you yet.

Hey faggot, go back to coding and attaching trojans to your miner!

Wow, Your going STRAIGHT onto my ignore list
Ckolivas is the creator of the legendary CGminer, One of The Best mining programs out there, He publishses all source and is totally transparent about his product.
Your calling him a faggot, Thats derogatory considering that i doubt you know his sexuality, And he has not ever attached a trojan to the CGminer compilable files.
Everyone would see it!

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I collect my bitcoins on a dedicated laptop inside a VMWare image and backup the wallet and put that backup in another house.
Just in case if my laptop got stolen.

One thing I just 'love' is people explaining their security measures. A healthy dose of paranoia goes a long way with the back stabbing that goes on these days

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Antivirus gives a lot false positives on CGminer.
If you don't trust it, then installed it only on a dedicated miner.
CGminer is TROJAN FREE.
I collect my bitcoins on a dedicated laptop inside a VMWare image and backup the wallet and put that backup in another house.
Just in case if my laptop got stolen.

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Quote from: DeathAndTaxes on October 26, 2012, 08:04:39 AM

Nov will turn into Dec and right around the time people get pissed they will demo a board or two and promise shipment will go soon. Soon will turn in January or maybe February and even then the product will come out in a trickle.

I mean going that route made them a mint when selling FPGA. Their customers paid up front, they didn't have to risk any of their own capital, and the way early pre-announcement killed sales of competitors. A win-win-win.

Don't forget it is still helping GPU/FPGA miners, who would have had a lot more competition if BFL wouldn't have announced to be releasing an ASIC in October.

More like a win-win-win-win

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I certainly hope that the product will be here soon!

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That may be the most intelligent post I've seen from you yet.

Hey faggot, go back to coding and attaching trojans to your miner!

Is it frustrating to see people actually contributing something, if you're too stupid to do it yourself? Dipshit

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Quote from: Zeek_W on October 25, 2012, 05:28:00 PM

That may be the most intelligent post I've seen from you yet.

Hey faggot, go back to coding and attaching trojans to your miner!

Are you fucking kidding me? You're a total knob... Let's insult the guy with the best mining software available..

Have some bloody respect you pile...

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BFL should NEVER EVER announce a product withe a release date again. They should squirrel away with the VC and profits from FPGAs then one day go:
"Oh hey everybody, you can buy this awesome device NOW, we have them in stock"

Why would they do that?

Nov will turn into Dec and right around the time people get pissed they will demo a board or two and promise shipment will go soon. Soon will turn in January or maybe February and even then the product will come out in a trickle.

I mean going that route made them a mint when selling FPGA. Their customers paid up front, they didn't have to risk any of their own capital, and the way early pre-announcement killed sales of competitors. A win-win-win.

Why wouldn't they do it again? Given the bitcoin community rewarded them for their prior business actions (accepting orders based on a simulation, grossly inaccurate specs, false shipping times, etc) why would they change?

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Quote from: Zeek_W on October 25, 2012, 05:28:00 PM

BFL should NEVER EVER announce a product withe a release date again. They should squirrel away with the VC and profits from FPGAs then one day go:
"Oh hey everybody, you can buy this awesome device NOW, we have them in stock"

^

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Quote from: Frequency on October 26, 2012, 05:08:33 AM

Quote from: AmDD on October 25, 2012, 04:49:06 PM

Just saw this posted in another thread...

Quote from: psilan on October 25, 2012, 04:24:07 PM

Quote from: BFL_Josh;3000

We are not going to be shipping the first week of November, I can definitely say that. We are waiting on the bulk chips from the foundry, that is really the major delay right now. As soon as that dam breaks loose, we pretty much have everything else either ready to go or in the pipeline to be completed shortly.

Q: when

Quote from: BFL_Josh;3004

They are not done yet. We are paying for what's called a "bullet run" though, which is essentially an expedited process to get the chips done sooner.

> From BFL forums
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/104-Shipping-in-2-3-weeks/page8

They will probably hire some extra staff to make the 700pc a day runs going on with there haevily invested production equipment they bought this month a face tot face section of there employees at there production facility be cool on there website, but without sunclasses Cool

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How does that even make sense? They don't even have the chips yet.. but what about soldering everything to the PCB? Who does that? Do they even have their PCB yet?

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Quote from: AmDD on October 25, 2012, 04:49:06 PM

Just saw this posted in another thread...

Quote from: psilan on October 25, 2012, 04:24:07 PM

Quote from: BFL_Josh;3000

We are not going to be shipping the first week of November, I can definitely say that. We are waiting on the bulk chips from the foundry, that is really the major delay right now. As soon as that dam breaks loose, we pretty much have everything else either ready to go or in the pipeline to be completed shortly.

Q: when

Quote from: BFL_Josh;3004

They are not done yet. We are paying for what's called a "bullet run" though, which is essentially an expedited process to get the chips done sooner.

> From BFL forums
https://forums.butterflylabs.com/showthread.php/104-Shipping-in-2-3-weeks/page8

They will probably hire some extra staff to make the 700pc a day runs going on with there haevily invested production equipment they bought this month a face tot face section of there employees at there production facility be cool on there website, but without sunclasses Cool

haha..GL and just click my link@sig would give u some rest... Kiss

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So no solid dates yet then? Nothing to say it will be shipped on the 5 th of November etc.. ??

And no working sample?? Yet!

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That may be the most intelligent post I've seen from you yet.

Where do you plug in the mouse? Tongue

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