Topic: 2000 years of work stolen in 50 years (Read 226 times)

This is a vague post that lacks direction. How has the central bank stolen your money? And how is BTC masking it the more.
Maybe if you explain better, I can understand your point.

Yes, I agree with you that the banks have stolen the achievements of our ancestors for 2000 years or more, because I believe that the banking system is the worst financial system in history, it is a system designed to steal people's money in a legitimate way.

But I do not agree with you that Bitcoin does not fix this. On the contrary, Bitcoin fixed all the corruption that banks did in the past years. It revives the old system (the gold system) in a modern technological way. Bitcoin is digital gold that fixes the corruption of the banking system.

I think OP is talking about fiat and the wide-spread usage of fractional-reserve banking that has been happening in the last 50 years or so.

Whereas with Bitcoin you cannot just create more of it out of thin air.

That's at least what I understood from the cryptic message.
 

OP is really confusing, he is not clear on what he is talking about. My absolute question is how his ancestor's work is stolen by banks and bitcoin helping more to destroy his ancestors work. Op which part of the world you are from?

By the way, people don't trade metals for goods 50 years ago.

What did the bank rob people's ancestors of? Declare the truth when mentioning them. For someone to understand precisely what the bank has embezzled, you cannot simply issue a statement without clearing the air.

You are ignorant of the wealth creation that many people have experienced from bitcoin, as they have utilized it as a means of asset storage rather than putting their money in banks where it will lose value rather than generate profits.

Really a great statement! That's what capitalism does. The richest tycoons and main world's banks don't produce anything except lies, the only thing they have created and now maintain is worldwide "lies industry". They just privatize all the territories, all the achievements and enslave people who have been working and producing real values for generations. They launch "get the money" games as a part of "lies industry" for poor people in order to make enslavement more efficient.

What’s the meaning of this thread, I don’t know what your ancestors used 2000 years to work for and bitcoin took it away from you, and how is bitcoin making it worst? When you are making a post, then make sure you write what everyone will understand, the post which you just created is kind of useless to me, but I don’t know if others will understand the post. If you are planning to criticize bitcoin, then be open and talk about it, you don’t have to be beating around the bush, no one is understanding what you are posting.

I'm trying to understand what OP means here, and I think it's based on the idea that for a long time, say 2000 years, societies were using either the gold standard, or some other similar system, and that since the gold standard was changed into the current fiat system from 1971 where the US stopped convertibility of gold into USD, then that means that the last 50 or so years have been seen as a way to extract the value created previously because of how fiat operates.

Not sure if that's what OP actually means, but that's how I understood it.

Lol, I think your perception of history is distorted though, you mean from the time of Jesus Christ, the central banks stole everything from human civilizations?

And with that, I don't think this is a valid argument though. Yeah banks could have been in the last eons, as it started in Middle ages and slowly spread across different countries.


And who says that bitcoin will fix it? or even masks what is happening. Or the contrary, bitcoin exposes all the wrong things about central bankers that's why Satoshi made it sure that there will be no middle man in bitcoin and that it is completely decentralized.

The "system" central banks represent has always existed, but with other names. Central banks are just the central authorities, the regulators who control the financial system of the world and they are present since the ancient times, when the primitive societies started being organized and developed.

Bitcoin has come to ease the influence centralization has over our lives, but it won't revert any scenario on its totality. It's like a medicine for a chronic disease, which doesn't have a definitive cure. Those who have access to this "medicine" will see their funds protected against inflation on long term. They will have an extra opportunity to invest and grow their earnings others won't have only through fiat currency.

I get it. But I also don’t.

What else can you do besides writing phrases that you want to be sounding like some guru? This is literally the best attempt we’ve got at fixing the world’s economical issues. There’s no alternative to what we currently have. Want to be a genius? Find a better solution than Bitcoin then! Cause everyone says this and then comes up with things that don’t even make sense. Take what you got, Bitcoin’s currently the only way to get access to money that you truly own..

You say it took 50 years for banks to steal all the wealth? Do you think we can fix this in a minute? A fix for this probably requires a few full, hard resets of society as we know it. It’s not as easy as it seems, but Bitcoin’s definitely helped and heping people set free of the chains & burdens of fiat restrictions, finally setting free of the chains we’ve all been tightly tied to..

Dude we are not mind readers, two short sentences are nowhere near enough to tell us what you mean by this, especially when the claims are so out there, it is true that as long as banks retain their ability to print money without any backing then they can regain their power once again given enough time, but bitcoin is precisely the fix that we need, as it is the hardest currency in existence as we know the upper limit of bitcoins that will ever exist, does this means banks cannot ever pervert and distort what bitcoin wants to achieve? No, but at least it is the best attempt we have seen during the last centuries.

I'm not sure who the post is targeted at, but it appears that you don't know what you're trying to convey at all. Your first statement may simply be seen as an expression of unhappiness with a central bank action, but you have not articulated it in detail.

In your second statement, bitcoin has nothing to do with negativity, unless you don't understand what bitcoin is all about and are just throwing shade at it.

Your point of view is completely different from the truth that is happening, ask yourself why you are limited by information and knowledge.
I think today it is not difficult to access information about the history and origin and development of people, some information from the Bible or in Buddhism also mentions a lot about politeness, if If you have never approached, look to the scientific perspective to find evidence related to archeology.
And speaking of economics , I'm not sure you envision development through different stages and periods but it seems that going wrong from the start is very difficult to continue, let's start instead Let's start from the core issue so we can move on.

I don't know where you are from but I feel English is not your strong language and so I don't think you yourself understand what you are trying to say talkless me the reader. Bitcoin did not support or add to what the central banks have already been doing instead I think its rather the other way round so your ancestral assest were robbed by the centralized bank and capitalist who controls.

What do you mean by this? How are you relating the hardwork or our ancestors for the past 2000 years to Bitcoin? Doesn't make any sense. And haven't you heard that bitcoin is not the means of everything? It's not a magic bean that will solved the world's problem, i.e poverty, hunger etc.

I think your mindset is totally wrong or your argument is flaw in the beginning.

If there will be someone that has stolen from our ancestors is that it is the capitalist, big corporations and banks.

How? 2000 years? Do you remember any of the asset you ancestors had at that time of the millenniums? Op are you exaggerating the statement? You thread is full with imaginative. Even your father house build in the village is not up to 100 years. And here you are talking about 2000 years. Is it that you are talking the natural resources which have been talking away by the Europeans? And if you are coming from that angle, I will tell you that, they had been taken away by the white men but it has not been taking away them again but the leaders are the cause of the everything that is happening on the earth.

Wrong. Why 2000 years? Because our era has so much? Homo sapies has a history of 70,000 years. The Agrarian Revolution began about 10,000 years ago when man began to settle down and raise animals and congregations.


Why 50 years? Because of Nixon shock? another mistake. Couldn't there have been inequality/elites/decadence before? Under the gold standard and gold currency, there was also inflation and governments also found ways to devaluate people svaings. Murray Newton Rothbard in "What Has Government Done to Our Money?" describes exactly how over hundreds (hundreds!) of years governments have steadily increased their power over money.


Another mistake. Bitcoin erases the achievements of the elite. It brings money back to people. Bitcoin is the first grassroots money operating on this scale since gold.

Your post doesn't makes sense to me. You haven't explained that how the central banks have stolen the work of our ancestors who worked for 2000 years? Are you trying to bring some mythological story into this or you're talking about the metals they used for the purpose of trading goods?

If you are talking about the metals than in that case you're absolutely wrong by saying that Bitcoin can't fix the wounds. The Bitcoin is truly innovative and works best as a digital currency, and in this technological age it's far better than the times when you had to carry burden of huge metals for trading goods. It's a total solution for our problems, but few people still doesn't understand the real power of it.

If you are talking about the economic system and even in that case Bitcoin is the savior. It has given the control over money to the user rather than the banks or governments. Anyone can trade it without any discriminations and restrictions, and even people from different cultures can trade with each other using Bitcoin.

In ancient times people would consider something like Bitcoin a magical system, but in this age and time it's a reality. We are lucky enough that we are born in a time with such great technologies and still people have negative views towards such great technological achievements.

Everything everyone's ancestors worked for in the past 2000 years have been stolen by the central banks in the past 50 years. 

Bitcoin does not fix this it mask it more. Like a wound that needs stitches we throw oxy cottens at as we bleed out more.