Topic: [2015-04-04] CS - BitcoinTalk’s User WoodCollector Hid 5,000 Btc (Read 2840 times)

We?
Your other personalities and yourself?

Lol

I take offence at this. CoinDesk is certain not a "pay for article" type website.

You must be thinking of Buzzfeed: http://tktk.gawker.com/buzzfeed-deletes-post-critical-of-dove-a-buzzfeed-adve-1696852834

Ok mate, i got it.

TL;DR

This whole wood collector saga is about 6 guys who want attention and spend 8-12 hours a day strapped behind a computer.


Oh and Bad Bear is still a liar and a fraud.

LOL probably.
I honestly have not been following the WC threads as of recently, however I have heard a few things about their content. I cannot speak for the others, however I think you are probably are more trying to troll then trying to scam. Although in theory it could be part of an elaborate scam, I can't say for sure either way.
I don't think you are ukcrypto - I do think you are close to him though and he potentially was willing to share his profits with you (again assuming you were in fact trying to scam and not just troll).
I believe that a portion of the 10 coins that you were going to sell for the year were unsold as of when your fraud was uncovered. I would not be 100% surprised if the last of your sales after your scam was discovered were faked and were actually sold to yourself. If this was the case then you could either allow your friend to sell at a high premium (and possibly take a portion of the markup), or you could later sell one of the coins that you sold to yourself at a high markup.
Like I said above, I think you were most likely just trolling. I seriously doubt that anyone actually believed that you hid 5,000 BTC someone for your customers to find - well maybe no one except one moron.

I think you are more likely to be trolling. Besides my theories above, I would say a more likely explanation is that you wanted to use this as a distraction to pull off a scam somewhere else in the forum without a lot of people asking questions.
I think I did a pretty good job answering 1 and 2
He does not give his evidence because it would reveal what methods he uses to determine that you are in fact WC. If he were to do that then you (and other scammers) would be able to more easily avoid detection in the future to pull off scams. BadBear is on my trust list and I trust what he says - I am going to say with a good amount of certainty that he is not wrong. Not only that but you have admitted to him being correct so him giving evidence is a moot point

I admit that looking for treasure is a waste of time yes. If looking for "my alts" entertains you then i'm glad. By the time you fools are done everyone on this forum is going to be an alt of woodcollector. Sorry an alt of me.

Those with brains have already figured out that i am only claiming to be wood collector to A: put an end to the debate about this fake treasure, and B: Make you all look like idiots. Both of which it seems i have done.

There are a few key elements that all you idiots seem to miss on a regular basis.

1: If i was wood collector and the treasure was a scam then i forgot to somehow make a profit from this scam.

2: see #1, unless of course i was also ukcrypto in which case i was trying to make a profit on the last two coins i had at a huge markup

3: No matter if the treasure was real or fake the only persons who stand to profit from it are the coin owners. The coins of which i have none of.

4: If the treasure is fake, i'm not sure what the point of it all was. Wood Collector stands no chance of making a penny of profit off it.


So, if you want to carry on with this game. You kids need to explain a few things first otherwise we can all carry on in the mind set that you are just children out for a troll.

1: If the treasure is fake, how does wood collector stand to gain or profit from it?

2: If i am wood collector, how do i myself stand to gain or profit from it?

3: when you cannot answer #'s 1&2. With wood collector gone and not selling his stuff here any more how does anyone stand to profit from anything involving wood collector?

4: If any of the accounts you accuse of being wood collector are really his alts, why has bad bear not posted any proof? He has been called out over 100 times on his B.S. "probable alt" crap and never once shown proof? He has to either be a liar and a fraud, or just plain dumb.


These are legit questions. You can continue to troll all you would like, its your right. But until these questions are answered with more than just speculation or some b.s. line about grammar we will just continue to write you all off as children out for a troll.

lol. You admit that looking for your "treasure" is a waste of time but looking for your alts is entertaining as is trying to win the contest of who can troll harder

You people are amusing.......... Pathetic for sure, but still amusing.


I have already said that i am WC and that the treasure is fake and you are all still having a debate about it.


Priceless

Actually thinking about it maybe we need a subsection for cryto based news and mainstream news
Kind of a sore point to see articles like this posted in the press section.

Excellent investigative work! Have you personally considered becoming a genuine Bitcoin journalist? 

Was about to call hoax, but you went and summed it up
He-he still keeps that Dildo close

Ha. I think you're probably right. Most of them just post any old crap to get some hits.


Probably didn't pay but might have contacted them with the thread and since they're desperate they'll write up anything.

http://www.stbmedia.com/coinspeaker/advertise/ shows that the only options to advertise on that site is via banner ads. Their careers section says that candidates need experience in "news writing"

I think they are just made up of a bunch of amateur wannabe journalists who have no idea what they are doing, similar to most of the other people that write news about Bitcoin.

I wouldn't be surprised if WC contacted the author outside of the site to pay her to write the article.

She describes herself on her Instagram as a "full-time daydreamer", an excellent qualification for a Bitcoin 'journalist'.

 

It's an "advertorial" website. There is no journalistic integrity. The author is not a journalist. The author will never be taken seriously.

well I would think that they would have at least a small amount of journalistic integrity. The author is going to have a hard time ever being taken seriously after these kinds of articles

If the fake story will not die, maybe a rich BTC owner will hide 5,000 actual Bitcoins to make the story much more fun?  

He said according to everyone who is a child... I think he's making fun of us. Maybe you're the one that can't read or understand what's going on. 

If someone needs money they will posts also "crap" if he will receive money, so I am not amazed that the owner of that site posted the article (also for only 25 bucks).



Can you read at least 4-5 posts before write your own post?

Someone wrote an article already? Gosh...

Is there any proof of this reward's existence?

If that is true then my statement still holds true. If you are going to attach your name to something like what was published then you need to verify what you are writing regardless if he is getting paid for it or not.

For what it's worth, the linked site is one of those "pay for an article" type websites, like CoinDesk. The "article" probably didn't cost WC more than 25 bucks.

I think this was pretty obvious lol. I am not sure why anyone would believe your claims that 5,000 btc was hidden somewhere, let alone someone who claims to be a journalist.

To the author of this article- you should seriously consider getting into a new line of work.

....and you were right, he can't gives any type of proofs as he said in this post (from one of his alt account):




This forum is really nice, every day a new story. Thanks WoodCollector aka Stuff4Bitcoin, for making me laugh.

And terrahasher, and sodawarz, and the observer, and foxtrot_the_fud, and the ferox, and VX miners Larry, and essimo naria... I'm starting to think there are more socks than people in Milwherever you're from.


As long as you stop filling it with scams, you've got a deal. I'll probably even forget where you live!

According to everyone who is a child on this forum


So let me put the issue to bed, The treasure is fake and not worth your time. You can all move on now and stop filling this forum with usless garbage.

Thank you

Considering the official thread has gone a lovely shade of shite™, for those even remotely interested in this stuff, looking at the blockchain side of things:

[citation needed]

In the time that WoodCollector was active on these forums under that name - which presumably would include that time when a person supposedly found a thing with stuff - there were 20 addresses starting with a 1Wood vanity dealing with transactions of any value.  3 of those were mentioned on these forums.  There was also a single 1Tree, two 1tree, none of which were referenced.  There was a single 1Trees mentioned once but it has zero inputs.

The most any of the ones mentioned received was about BTC11.  Some of that received amount is also deceiving as funds go from one address to another, and right back.  The same happens with the lathe fund.

In that same period there were about 2850 transactions involving exactly BTC5 that was unspent, involving about 2400 address.  However only about 2150 addresses had only a single transaction in that period. Culling multi-sig and others, and filtering to only those with a current (as of some minutes ago) balance of BTC5, leaves about 1360 addresses.

The distribution of those addresses over blocks in which they received their transaction looks like this:

If somebody noticed any addresses getting funded with BTC5 each, they must have had a good bit of time on their hands to link them together over such a wide spread, as there's no discernible spike.

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Note: This doesn't necessarily invalidate OP's claims.  At best it invalidates the claims regarding many vanity addresses and BTC5 transactions related to those addresses and / or a particular time frame.

Yeah he's just trying to get people to buy the last of his stock.  And it even looks like some of the ones he "sold" were just to his own sockpuppet accounts, which are now trying to ask a premium for these coins cause they contain part of the puzzle.

Anyone with half a brain can see though that he doesn't have $1 million+ of btc that he is goign to give away.  This only reinforces the fact that he is a liar, scammer, and not an actual skilled craftsman.

All that ever comes out of his mouth is bulshit. Even when he's caught red-handed and his alts are busted he still maintains innocence whilst behaving in exactly the same way woodcollector does every time. He's delusional or thinks people here are idiots.


He couldn't even provide any proof of his carving skills or anything else relating to the whole fiasco for that matter so he's not going to provide proof of these mythical btc.

In my personal opinion he doesn't own 5k bitcoin, and he didn't give any proof and an ultimate thing:  this is not a news related with bitcoin technology (OP you should move the thread in another section).

PS: WoodCollector, we are waiting some proofs .

That is true.  But in his case I think he's more a mix of a BS artist as much as a scam artist.  Scammers usually just run and hide when called out, he's actually got the nerve to stay here and keep pushing his "carvings".  I would stay away from him.

I doubt it. Some of these crappy bitcoin newsites will just post anything for hits. It's not the first time they've got news articles from this forum without fact checking.

I am surprised to see coinspeaker even wrote about this. They might have got a deal from WoodCollector.


Does this even belong here?^[1] It should probably(obviously IMHO) in Off-Topic or Service Discussion but there is already one, so it should be better to move this to Archival.

[1] “Notable press hits”

Yeah, to anyone following the situation you can see his stories dont add up.  He claims to have posted "proof" he could carve these intricate designs, but posts a video of him VERY roughly carving around a BTC, and taking over an hour to do so. At that rate he would be working on a single one of his "designs" (which were also stolen designs from the internet) for months.

So in the case of WoodCollector...

DEAL WITH CAUTION!

Uggh, why post this crap. Just another scam by him. Everything WoodCollector says is either fantasy, bullshit or lies. This is just his pathetic fantasy attempt to try flog his remaining crapcoins to idiots. Luckily most people on this forum aren't as stupid as he is and don't suffer fools or scammers.

I have found that to be nearly 100% true. Many will start hurling legal threats as well. While I am more than willing to give people a second chance or benefit of the doubt, doing one's own research before making any business deal will save a lot of grief and misunderstandings down the road.

I'm just saying I haven't really weighed in on either end of the argument because I didn't know the whole story and didn't see any of it happen, he did act like a total prick though when he was confronted and that's usually a sign of a scammer, they're always the most indignant.

Good God reading his trust comments is the 2nd longest read I have ever done here, beside TradeFortress of course. I think "doesn't have the best reputation on bitcointalk" is a bit of an understatement.

If such hidden treasures were actually out there somewhere then this would be a fun way to promote bitcoin however.

Be wary of anything involving WoodCollector, he doesn't have the best reputation on Bitcointalk, small news sites like these tend to post up articles to get exposure without necessarily checking out their sources.

If we truly know that this is the case, then yes.  There's no way to know that 100% for certain, though.  The finder(s - if all holders of the 10 coins are indeed required) could collude to keep everything secret.  Could try to find the treasure addresses with decent certainty - if something gets spent from them, assume that the treasure was found and declare the remainder as not being lost, as well.

This is a great way to get more publicity for Bitcoin. We had a lot of negative publicity recently, and some positive news will do a lot of wonders. WoodCollector deserves a lot of applause.

BTW... what will happen if no one is able to find out the treasure? Should we add the BTC5,000 to the list of "lost coins"?

The actual thread was in this section just a day ago
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/2015-04-03-the-5000btc-hidden-treasure-and-the-key-to-finding-it-1011340

Are you a fan of puzzles and hidden treasures? Well, if yes, WoodCollector‘s post on the forum BitcoinTalk will attract your attention. Yesterday, this unknown user published a message about hidden treasure worth 5,000 BTC. Moreover, he also posted the key to find the treasure.

http://www.coinspeaker.com/2015/04/04/bitcointalks-user-woodcollector-hided-5000-btc-and-heres-the-key-to-find-it-8436/