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Topic: [2017-03-25]BitPay Won’t Use Bitcoin Alternatives For Payment Systems Despite Sc (Read 361 times)
March 27, 2017, 08:57:55 AM
March 26, 2017, 11:04:29 AM
Anyone claiming that sovereign states and banks are immutable and will exist forever without competition are simply deluded.
Who said that? No one in here...Bitcoin and its future evolution will no doubt change the financial landscape, and has already.
That I can definitely agree with.Thinking that a bank will be the only way people transact globally is short-sighted at best, and obtuse at worst.
Again, who said that?Given the colossal amounts of debt sloshing around global financial systems, there is a very real risk of systemic default and its cousins (devaluation into hyperinflation) due to the continued belief that "faith and credit" in the system is enough to prop up Trillions in debts.
I agree with that.So again, you don't have to be a "noob" (what is this, a video game chatroom?) to think that banks will get replaced, or governments will fall -- they're doing a bang-up job screwing themselves without Bitcoin's help.
I never said that banks won't get replaced at some point, nor did I say that governments won't fall. You are just cherry picking. March 26, 2017, 10:46:35 AM
Anyone claiming that sovereign states and banks are immutable and will exist forever without competition are simply deluded.
Bitcoin and its future evolution will no doubt change the financial landscape, and has already. Thinking that a bank will be the only way people transact globally is short-sighted at best, and obtuse at worst. Given the colossal amounts of debt sloshing around global financial systems, there is a very real risk of systemic default and its cousins (devaluation into hyperinflation) due to the continued belief that "faith and credit" in the system is enough to prop up Trillions in debts.
Its been speculated that Japan may be the first to fall, after all they've been printing money like mad since the 90's and their inverted demographics of increasingly older people supported by very few young workers will eventually take its toll. However, China may be the surprise that catches everyone unaware. Their GDP numbers have been admitted to be false, and other metrics of "just fine" growth could be just as imaginary.
Couple that with the impending destruction of the Euro, and you have a global financial crunch that will make anything else look like a fucking picnic.
So again, you don't have to be a "noob" (what is this, a video game chatroom?) to think that banks will get replaced, or governments will fall -- they're doing a bang-up job screwing themselves without Bitcoin's help.
Bitcoin and its future evolution will no doubt change the financial landscape, and has already. Thinking that a bank will be the only way people transact globally is short-sighted at best, and obtuse at worst. Given the colossal amounts of debt sloshing around global financial systems, there is a very real risk of systemic default and its cousins (devaluation into hyperinflation) due to the continued belief that "faith and credit" in the system is enough to prop up Trillions in debts.
Its been speculated that Japan may be the first to fall, after all they've been printing money like mad since the 90's and their inverted demographics of increasingly older people supported by very few young workers will eventually take its toll. However, China may be the surprise that catches everyone unaware. Their GDP numbers have been admitted to be false, and other metrics of "just fine" growth could be just as imaginary.
Couple that with the impending destruction of the Euro, and you have a global financial crunch that will make anything else look like a fucking picnic.
So again, you don't have to be a "noob" (what is this, a video game chatroom?) to think that banks will get replaced, or governments will fall -- they're doing a bang-up job screwing themselves without Bitcoin's help.
March 26, 2017, 10:39:31 AM
While many expected bitcoin to replace the use of credit cards and replace the banking system in 2013
I have only seen noobs publicly stating that they think Bitcoin will replace banks, governments, fiat, etc. No one with a serious understanding of how an economy works will ever think that Bitcoin has the ability to replace any of the mentioned examples.the cryptocurrency has faced challenges as a payment system since it has not been able to safely accommodate its growth, according to Nasdaq.
This is something that people could have seen becoming reality years ago. Bitcoin back then wasn't an ideal payment form, plus it was just a matter of time before the block size caps were reached till a point that there is more demand for block space than is available. Nothing surprising about all of this.Other than that, basically every altcoin will at some point go through what Bitcoin is going through right now, if they happen to experience the same level of growth. But that's obviously not something noobs understand as they constantly point at Bitcoin being much slower than altcoins (slower in terms of confirmations). They can't think things through properly. They see what they want to see.
March 25, 2017, 09:50:44 PM
BitPay Won’t Use Bitcoin Alternatives For Payment Systems Despite Scaling Issues
While many expected bitcoin to replace the use of credit cards and replace the banking system in 2013, the cryptocurrency has faced challenges as a payment system since it has not been able to safely accommodate its growth, according to Nasdaq.
Bitcoin is currently dealing with some issues as a payments platform, mainly because the system is experiencing growth at a rate faster than it can safely scale.
Stephen Pair, a co-founder of BitPay, said customer service inquiries have increased due to transaction confirmation delays. BitPay has also witnessed higher transaction fees for its own transactions, causing the company to stop covering bitcoin network fees on invoice payments.
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BitPay Responds To Payment Delays
BitPay has become more creative in designing user experience for delayed payments. Delays are often an opportunity to explain the way the bitcoin network works and direct people to wallets with dynamic transaction fees.
Copay and BitPay wallet users have largely escaped transaction delays since their wallets dynamically calculate transaction fees.
One method for addressing transaction delays and increased transaction fees is the Lightning Network. Its caching layer would allow for improved versions of features such as immediate transactions at no cost that people have associated with bitcoin.
Pair said BitPay is exploring all possible scalability solutions. He is not surprised bitcoin has to scale. He is surprised that while short-term throughput bumps were expected, changes for on-chain throughput were expected a few years ago.
The slow pace of increased throughput was not foreseen, he said. A scalability limit will be reached at some point that will be addressed by solutions like Lightning Network.
BitPay Will Stick With Bitcoin
BitPay has studied alternatives to the bitcoin blockchain and concluded none are compelling, Pair said.
Some observers suspected BitPay and similar companies might switch from bitcoin to altcoins or permissioned blockchains on account of the high U.S.-dollar-denominated fees and network congestion.
While Pair acknowledged there are scaling issues, the company continues to witness more consumers using the existing technology.
He said bitcoin is the most cost effective, secure and fast means of value transfer on the Internet.
BitPay sees itself as a payment innovator. Consumer and business-to-business payments are no different on BitPay’s platform and the bitcoin network.
Tony Gallippi, BitPay co-founder, noted at the recent Distributed: Markets fireside chat that the company’s transaction count more than doubled in the last year. Much of the growth was in digital goods and video games.
Gallippi said the Steam digital distribution platform’s acceptance of bitcoin was a source of growth for BitPay, and that there is much overlap between the bitcoin and gamer communities.
Pair said BitPay is also witnessing growth in bitcoin’s use for B2B money transfers. He said bitcoin is a fantastic solution for such transfers, particularly for global payments where bank transfers are inefficient and slow.
Also read: BitPay CEO on safe bitcoin scaling: soft fork first, hard fork next
B2B Payments Embrace Bitcoin
B2B companies are using the BitPay platform for billing settling international payments with a lot of suppliers, Pair said during the fireside chat.
Gallippi noted there has been an increase in bitcoin’s use for payment disbursements.
He said it is not easy to pay people on a regular basis in the majority of countries. It is hard to pay people in places where a lot of apps are being developed, such as India, Africa, the Middle East and Eastern Europe.
For app stores or digital marketing companies, Gallippi said BitPay can receive one payment from the business and then disburse payments in bitcoin to all of the endpoints.
BitPay built the product for its need to pay its employees in bitcoin, Pair said. There are now a lot of Fortune 500 companies asking BitPay to solve similar payment issues.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitpay-wont-use-bitcoin-alternatives-payment-systems-despite-scaling-issues/
While many expected bitcoin to replace the use of credit cards and replace the banking system in 2013, the cryptocurrency has faced challenges as a payment system since it has not been able to safely accommodate its growth, according to Nasdaq.
Bitcoin is currently dealing with some issues as a payments platform, mainly because the system is experiencing growth at a rate faster than it can safely scale.
Stephen Pair, a co-founder of BitPay, said customer service inquiries have increased due to transaction confirmation delays. BitPay has also witnessed higher transaction fees for its own transactions, causing the company to stop covering bitcoin network fees on invoice payments.
// Let us help you become financially independent. Read exclusive stories, bitcoin analysis, and tutorials. Use the coupon code "CCN5" and get $5 off. Join Hacked.com now. //
BitPay Responds To Payment Delays
BitPay has become more creative in designing user experience for delayed payments. Delays are often an opportunity to explain the way the bitcoin network works and direct people to wallets with dynamic transaction fees.
Copay and BitPay wallet users have largely escaped transaction delays since their wallets dynamically calculate transaction fees.
One method for addressing transaction delays and increased transaction fees is the Lightning Network. Its caching layer would allow for improved versions of features such as immediate transactions at no cost that people have associated with bitcoin.
Pair said BitPay is exploring all possible scalability solutions. He is not surprised bitcoin has to scale. He is surprised that while short-term throughput bumps were expected, changes for on-chain throughput were expected a few years ago.
The slow pace of increased throughput was not foreseen, he said. A scalability limit will be reached at some point that will be addressed by solutions like Lightning Network.
BitPay Will Stick With Bitcoin
BitPay has studied alternatives to the bitcoin blockchain and concluded none are compelling, Pair said.
Some observers suspected BitPay and similar companies might switch from bitcoin to altcoins or permissioned blockchains on account of the high U.S.-dollar-denominated fees and network congestion.
While Pair acknowledged there are scaling issues, the company continues to witness more consumers using the existing technology.
He said bitcoin is the most cost effective, secure and fast means of value transfer on the Internet.
BitPay sees itself as a payment innovator. Consumer and business-to-business payments are no different on BitPay’s platform and the bitcoin network.
Tony Gallippi, BitPay co-founder, noted at the recent Distributed: Markets fireside chat that the company’s transaction count more than doubled in the last year. Much of the growth was in digital goods and video games.
Gallippi said the Steam digital distribution platform’s acceptance of bitcoin was a source of growth for BitPay, and that there is much overlap between the bitcoin and gamer communities.
Pair said BitPay is also witnessing growth in bitcoin’s use for B2B money transfers. He said bitcoin is a fantastic solution for such transfers, particularly for global payments where bank transfers are inefficient and slow.
Also read: BitPay CEO on safe bitcoin scaling: soft fork first, hard fork next
B2B Payments Embrace Bitcoin
B2B companies are using the BitPay platform for billing settling international payments with a lot of suppliers, Pair said during the fireside chat.
Gallippi noted there has been an increase in bitcoin’s use for payment disbursements.
He said it is not easy to pay people on a regular basis in the majority of countries. It is hard to pay people in places where a lot of apps are being developed, such as India, Africa, the Middle East and Eastern Europe.
For app stores or digital marketing companies, Gallippi said BitPay can receive one payment from the business and then disburse payments in bitcoin to all of the endpoints.
BitPay built the product for its need to pay its employees in bitcoin, Pair said. There are now a lot of Fortune 500 companies asking BitPay to solve similar payment issues.
https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/bitpay-wont-use-bitcoin-alternatives-payment-systems-despite-scaling-issues/
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