[2017-11-1]Why Bitcoin's Next Fork Might Not Mean Free Money

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on November 03, 2017, 04:57:20 AM

SegWit2x will not be a free money or an airdrop if it will fail from the begging for technical reasons, or if it will quickly overtake the real Bitcoin, or if most users won't have access to replay protections. If none of this will happen and if markets will be open, than after a process of claiming (which might be more complicated than claiming of BCH was) users will be able to get their free altcoin and dump it for somewhere between 0.05-0.15 BTC per coins, which is a nice 5-15% bump to their BTC portfolio. But since this fork is different from BCH, it's better to not make any hasty moves in order to not lose any coins due to replays or other disruptions.

What? No more free money? But, sir, won't I be able to just dump all my Segwit2x altcoins on an exchange, selling them for bitcoins and essentially boost my Bitcoins by a small percentage? People will be lining up to get mine, won't they?

Jokes aside, I think the forks need to be taken seriously. Indeed, they should never have been about free money, although the methods and experience of two forks in three months have given me more than 10% near instant increase on Bitcoins.

If we look past the baseness of "free money", of course a serious fork intends to keep legacy users, encouraging and convincing them that their new software, their new vision, is the better one. That Bitcoin Cash and, some argue, Bitcoin Gold, merely used ideology to mask (poorly) their obvious ploy at instant profits, we can't pretend that Segwit2x is no better.

The Chinese miners at least have the straightness to come out and say it. The main advocates of Segwit2x keep talking about price and dollars. So why do we think they're sincerely in this for the betterment of Bitcoin? I'm not saying it's an outright truth. Just keeping things in perspective. And these forkers have always had the perspective of profit.

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We'll see, even some altcoin/shitcoin have some values, seg2x will have some values, so it will be free money regardless.

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It's interesting to see, that the community does not have consensus on what will be the primary bitcoin blockchain after the fork... So far there has always been a majority, this time I'm not so sure about this. And the one who benefits is BCH interestingly...

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SegWit2x will not be a free money or an airdrop if it will fail from the begging for technical reasons, or if it will quickly overtake the real Bitcoin, or if most users won't have access to replay protections. If none of this will happen and if markets will be open, than after a process of claiming (which might be more complicated than claiming of BCH was) users will be able to get their free altcoin and dump it for somewhere between 0.05-0.15 BTC per coins, which is a nice 5-15% bump to their BTC portfolio. But since this fork is different from BCH, it's better to not make any hasty moves in order to not lose any coins due to replays or other disruptions.

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Finally a thread about this coming Segwit and Segwit2x war. Since Bitcoin is already at $7,200, I began to wonder when will people and media starts think about this serious fork. Hmm, looks like I will start hiding in fiat or tether sooner than expected.

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There was information that during the next November fork, bitcoin could spontaneously split and one part would functionally be used more as a means of payment, and another as a means of preserving value, that is, as digital gold. Already even began to foresee what will be called a new offshoot of bitcoin - silver, platinum.

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Quote from: https://www.coindesk.com/understanding-segwit2x-bitcoins-next-fork-might-different/

Bitcoin is gearing up for what could be the biggest (and least understood) change to its software to date.

Often called simply a "digital currency," bitcoin is best viewed as a protocol (a set of code) that delivers data (in this case bitcoins) in defined quantities (called blocks) that are then stored in a sequence (called a blockchain) on a distributed set of global computers. Bitcoin is decentralized – in that many people help make the network function, and in choosing to run its software, users all agree to abide by the same rules to keep it operational.

It's these qualities that make the proposed change particularly divisive.

Called Segwit2x, the plan calls for a very specific fork (or a change to bitcoin's rules), one that would make certain rules valid that weren't valid before. Specifically, Segwit2x would change the size of the blocks passed regularly around the network and stored in the blockchain from 1 MB to 2 MB.

Some users think this is a good idea, others don't.

But to begin, it's important to note how this fork differs from others. Coming on the heels of the bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold forks, bitcoin users might be accustomed to certain outcomes – ones that might not be guaranteed in the case of Segwit2x.

With bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold, for example, bitcoin users could have paid little to no attention and it wouldn't have impacted their transactions. If you held bitcoin on certain exchanges (or your own wallet), you received new cryptocurrency.

This smooth outcome, however, isn't guaranteed with Segwit2x. Complicating matters is that in many ways, Segwit2x sounds (and is) similar to other bitcoin forks.

Like other recent forks, Segwit2x is:

An alternative software – A modification of the bitcoin software run by network participants and that enforces the protocol rules. In this case, Segwit2x's code is called BTC1.
An attempt to increase the block size – Most forks focus on one specific rule of the network (block size), despite other possible optimizations that could lead to capacity boosts.
A hard fork – Anyone whose software is not upgraded to the new rules will no longer be a part of the network.
It's the differences, however, that stand out this time around.

First and foremost, whereas bitcoin cash developers appeared content to create a new blockchain (with new rules), Segwit2x's goal is to keep all bitcoin's existing users on one blockchain.

In this way, Segwit2x could have different outcomes.

These include:

Bitcoin's rules change. Most (or all) miners upgrade their software. The bitcoin blockchain continues to function but features larger blocks. Segwit2x's rules become the rules of bitcoin.
Two bitcoins are created. Only some miners upgrade their software. This creates two blockchains – a so-called "legacy" bitcoin, and a "Segwit2x" bitcoin, both with different rules and unique cryptocurrencies.
Bitcoin's rules do not change. No significant miners run the new software, and the network continues to run the current rules.

Source https://www.coindesk.com/understanding-segwit2x-bitcoins-next-fork-might-different/

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