I lead a normal life, I use Telegrams only as an analogue of Vk. I do not understand those who are so afraid that they will listen to. Do you think they are interested in your intimate correspondence? You think they're reading it? If you're not a drug dealer ! I don't understand what all might fear user in terms of loss of anonymity.
In Russia, Putin's mafia can come for you even if you don't violate any laws, but just only have non-approved opinion about some subject! Thoughtcrime became reality in Russia! 
Topic: [2018-03-20] Telegram Loses Bid to Block Russia From Encryption Keys (Read 101 times)
March 22, 2018, 06:06:08 AM
I lead a normal life, I use Telegrams only as an analogue of Vk. I do not understand those who are so afraid that they will listen to. Do you think they are interested in your intimate correspondence? You think they're reading it? If you're not a drug dealer ! I don't understand what all might fear user in terms of loss of anonymity.
March 21, 2018, 10:55:18 PM
Telegram uses end-to-end encryption therefore doesn't have any keys on it's servers.
Russian FSB is absolutely incompetent and just want to show it's power!
Russian FSB is absolutely incompetent and just want to show it's power!
March 21, 2018, 03:56:18 PM
Telegram, the encrypted messaging app that’s prized by those seeking privacy, lost a bid before Russia’s Supreme Court to block security services from getting access to users’ data, giving President Vladimir Putin a victory in his effort to keep tabs on electronic communications.
Supreme Court Judge Alla Nazarova on Tuesday rejected Telegram’s appeal against the Federal Security Service, the successor to the KGB spy agency which last year asked the company to share its encryption keys. Telegram declined to comply and was hit with a fine of $14,000. Communications regulator Roskomnadzor said Telegram now has 15 days to provide the encryption keys.
Telegram, which is in the middle of an initial coin offering of as much as $2.55 billion, plans to appeal the ruling in a process that may last into the summer, according to the company’s lawyer, Ramil Akhmetgaliev. Any decision to block the service would require a separate court ruling, the lawyer said.
“Threats to block Telegram unless it gives up private data of its users won’t bear fruit. Telegram will stand for freedom and privacy,” Pavel Durov, the company’s founder, said on his Twitter page.
Putin signed laws in 2016 on fighting terrorism, which included a requirement for messaging services to provide the authorities with means to decrypt user correspondence. Telegram challenged an auxiliary order by the Federal Security Service, claiming that the procedure doesn’t involve a court order and breaches constitutional rights for privacy, according to documents.
The security agency, known as the FSB, argued in court that obtaining the encryption keys doesn’t violate users’ privacy because the keys by themselves aren’t considered information of restricted access. Collecting data on particular suspects using the encryption would still require a court order, the agency said.
“The FSB’s argument that encryption keys can’t be considered private information defended by the Constitution is cunning,” Akhmetgaliev, Telegram’s lawyer, told reporters after the hearing. “It’s like saying, ‘I’ve got a password from your email, but I don’t control your email, I just have the possibility to control.’”
The court decision is intended to make one of the last holdouts among communications companies bow to Putin’s efforts to track electronic messaging. Durov in June registered the service with the state communications watchdog after it was threatened with a ban over allegations that terrorists used it to plot a suicide-bomb attack.
Telegram has more than 9.5 million users in Russia, according to researcher Mediascope. It raised $850 million from investors in February in a so-called initial coin offering and is trying to raise another $1.7 billion, according to company documents seen by Bloomberg News. Telegram plans to use the proceeds to build a blockchain network with built-in cryptocurrency Gram that could enable faster transactions than bitcoin.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/telegram-loses-bid-to-stop-russia-from-getting-encryption-keys
Supreme Court Judge Alla Nazarova on Tuesday rejected Telegram’s appeal against the Federal Security Service, the successor to the KGB spy agency which last year asked the company to share its encryption keys. Telegram declined to comply and was hit with a fine of $14,000. Communications regulator Roskomnadzor said Telegram now has 15 days to provide the encryption keys.
Telegram, which is in the middle of an initial coin offering of as much as $2.55 billion, plans to appeal the ruling in a process that may last into the summer, according to the company’s lawyer, Ramil Akhmetgaliev. Any decision to block the service would require a separate court ruling, the lawyer said.
“Threats to block Telegram unless it gives up private data of its users won’t bear fruit. Telegram will stand for freedom and privacy,” Pavel Durov, the company’s founder, said on his Twitter page.
Putin signed laws in 2016 on fighting terrorism, which included a requirement for messaging services to provide the authorities with means to decrypt user correspondence. Telegram challenged an auxiliary order by the Federal Security Service, claiming that the procedure doesn’t involve a court order and breaches constitutional rights for privacy, according to documents.
The security agency, known as the FSB, argued in court that obtaining the encryption keys doesn’t violate users’ privacy because the keys by themselves aren’t considered information of restricted access. Collecting data on particular suspects using the encryption would still require a court order, the agency said.
“The FSB’s argument that encryption keys can’t be considered private information defended by the Constitution is cunning,” Akhmetgaliev, Telegram’s lawyer, told reporters after the hearing. “It’s like saying, ‘I’ve got a password from your email, but I don’t control your email, I just have the possibility to control.’”
The court decision is intended to make one of the last holdouts among communications companies bow to Putin’s efforts to track electronic messaging. Durov in June registered the service with the state communications watchdog after it was threatened with a ban over allegations that terrorists used it to plot a suicide-bomb attack.
Telegram has more than 9.5 million users in Russia, according to researcher Mediascope. It raised $850 million from investors in February in a so-called initial coin offering and is trying to raise another $1.7 billion, according to company documents seen by Bloomberg News. Telegram plans to use the proceeds to build a blockchain network with built-in cryptocurrency Gram that could enable faster transactions than bitcoin.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/telegram-loses-bid-to-stop-russia-from-getting-encryption-keys
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