[2019-01-09] Wife of Norway Millionaire kidnapped, Monero random wanted

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2019, 07:54:18 PM

What are the latest updates on this news?

In any case, Kakmakr, I reckon it would be the exchanges which might classify Monero as a crime coin and that some of them might take extreme measures to delist it, by order of the government or to avoid any pressure from the government.

It is not impossible, the Japanese government had already done this on exchanges in their country.

We have seen it already and its really plausible for exchangers to go into such decision on delisting XMR. If these kind of scenarios would become rampant then we cant really say that these acts cant be done.

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What are the latest updates on this news?

In any case, Kakmakr, I reckon it would be the exchanges which might classify Monero as a crime coin and that some of them might take extreme measures to delist it, by order of the government or to avoid any pressure from the government.

It is not impossible, the Japanese government had already done this on exchanges in their country.

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Quote from: 1Referee on January 13, 2019, 06:02:15 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be some sort of a stunt from the side of a bitter government, because it wouldn't be the first time;
https://cointelegraph.com/news/polish-central-bank-secretly-funds-anti-crypto-youtube-propaganda-videos

It could even be a sick-fuck sort of scam attempt from individuals totally unrelated to the kidnapping. It's horrible for the Hagen family, but this case stinks from every angle.

I think funding some videos or articles is very different from staging, or even worse, committing a kidnapping/murder as a false flag. Governments fund talking people all the time, and often they even do it openly. But false flags are very-very rare, and we shouldn't think about them as a viable theory unless there's a good amount of evidence.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on January 13, 2019, 01:53:00 AM

I am just glad that these people are not demanding Bitcoin again, because the shill press has a field day with these kinds of articles in the media. I can understand why they are using a more anonymous version of Crypto currencies for this and I have also seen some of the nonsense people are selling on the Darkweb with Monero as payment.

Monero can officially be classed as a CrimeCoin. Tongue

Classed by who? I reckon that would be a mistake. Can Chipmixer officially be classed as a crime service? The answer is no.

Also, the US dollar and the Euro are the most used currencies by criminals. They should officially class them as criminal currencies first hehehe.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on January 13, 2019, 01:53:00 AM

I am just glad that these people are not demanding Bitcoin again, because the shill press has a field day with these kinds of articles in the media. I can understand why they are using a more anonymous version of Crypto currencies for this and I have also seen some of the nonsense people are selling on the Darkweb with Monero as payment.

Monero can officially be classed as a CrimeCoin. Tongue

I'm waiting for mainstream media headlines stating; BREAKING! Bitcoin suffers blow, criminals are no longer interested in the crypto currency. Cheesy

I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be some sort of a stunt from the side of a bitter government, because it wouldn't be the first time;
https://cointelegraph.com/news/polish-central-bank-secretly-funds-anti-crypto-youtube-propaganda-videos

It could even be a sick-fuck sort of scam attempt from individuals totally unrelated to the kidnapping. It's horrible for the Hagen family, but this case stinks from every angle.

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I am just glad that these people are not demanding Bitcoin again, because the shill press has a field day with these kinds of articles in the media. I can understand why they are using a more anonymous version of Crypto currencies for this and I have also seen some of the nonsense people are selling on the Darkweb with Monero as payment.

Monero can officially be classed as a CrimeCoin. Tongue

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on January 11, 2019, 11:48:54 PM

@nutildah. Agreed. However, this also advertises Monero's technical superiority over the other cryptocoins in privacy and untraceability and that it is the better choice for criminals in where to hide their wealth than bitcoin.

Monero isn't complete anonymous though, that's been known for some time. There's no doubt in my mind the kidnappers will eventually be caught. I've been around since Monero's beginnings -- it was always propelled by slimebags whose goal was to make a slimebaggy coin to be used by other slimebags. If at least 1 in 4 XMR transactions are used for illegal purposes you can bet authorities will be paying extra special attention to those who buy and use it.

https://medium.com/cryptics/monero-not-anonymous-at-all-113c3a14c816

That article is unconvincing and has not demonstrated 1 example on how to trace transactions in Monero. However if this is true then this might become Monero's big test hehehe.

In any case, the kidnappers of 5Dimes owner were arrested after police in Costa Rica linked a bitcoin address with an ip address.

Costa Rican authorities are hoping the arrest of 12 people allegedly involved in the September kidnapping of the owner of an internet sports betting site will lead to the missing U.S. citizen.

Director of Costa Rica's Judicial Investigation Body Walter Espinoza said Friday that the arrests were made in Costa Rica and Spain.

Sean William Creighton had lived in Costa Rica for several years before he was kidnapped Sept. 24 near San Jose. Espinoza says the kidnappers used a rented pickup and worked with a pair of transit police officers to abduct Creighton.

Espinoza says Creighton's family paid a nearly $1 million ransom via the electronic currency Bitcoin. Investigators were able to link access to an electronic wallet to a computer address in Costa Rica.

Source https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2019/01/11/world/americas/ap-lt-costa-rica-kidnapping.html

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there are dozens of people getting abducted for ransom monthly , but only the bitcoin/monero cases are getting the spotlight
9 mil is not such a big money , the guy should pay up as soon as he recieves the address
Monero is not completely untraceable, but it is much safer for criminals than bitcoins
and yeas, as bad as it sounds, it is advantageous for Monero and its popularisation as the truly anonymous coin
hope this ends well and his wife is returned unharmed

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One more reason of why politicians do not love cryptos and see them dangerous. Montero is impossible to track out and such case simply may be repeated. I hope police will solve it on good and find out criminals. I hope this situation will not affect all crypto currencies and their acceptance in the country.

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But meaningless connections aside, she was abducted on October 31st, that's 2 and a half months ago... She's still missing... That means he didn't pay the ransom and probably won't. Sounds kind of like a William Randolph Hearst type.

After reading this article some things are pretty clear :

The kidnappers are not Norwegians or they want the police to think that.
They are incapable of demonstrating that the victim is still alive.
Police have no clues and decide to involve the public in this case.
There is a high probability that Mrs. Hagen is not alive anymore.
This is an amateur job.

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“The family wants to get in touch with those who have Anne-Elizabeth today. They want to get a confirmation that she is OK, and that she is alive,” he said during a press conference on Wednesday afternoon. “If she is, the family is prepared to initiate a process to get her home safely.”

It means everything is in the hands of the kidnappers, but for some reason they have problems to contact family and send Monero address for ransom.

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@nutildah. Agreed. However, this also advertises Monero's technical superiority over the other cryptocoins in privacy and untraceability and that it is the better choice for criminals in where to hide their wealth than bitcoin.

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This is bad for that family, i hope they find a solution. On the flip side, good advertising for monero which is increasingly becoming the payment method of choice for baddies.

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Looks like the kidnappers are a serious outfit. Randsom wanted in Monero
not the usual hackers favourite if Bitcoin.

I think we going to see more of these kidnappings and abductions in the future
no need to ask for cash or wire transfers, they can be tracked. Monero is a
safe alternative.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/01/09/kidnappers-demand-9m-cryptocurrency-norwegian-billionaires-wife/

The wife of one of Norway’s richest men has been abducted from her home outside Oslo,
with the kidnappers demanding a ransom of €9 million in cryptocurrency...

...Kidnap for crypto-ransom has been growing internationally since the first case was recorded
in Costa Rica in 2015, with about one case per month in the first half of 2018, according to
the security firm Control Risks.

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