[2019-12-31] Countdown: Craig Wright’s 1m BTC fortune to be unlocked in hours

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Quote from: hv_ on January 04, 2020, 02:52:55 PM

That's funny, normally my stuff gets into hate alert, ignore sections or delisted by the mods

People are entitled to their opinion. From what I can see by browsing through your posts, you just share your opinion, and that's perfectly fine, even if it doesn't align with mine. It's a free discussion place.

Quote from: hv_ on January 04, 2020, 02:52:55 PM

I m very sad, that many Bitcoiners have been sold the mere of original BitCoin doesn't work, and so needs alterations and extra networks to wait for the fixing...

No one said that Bitcoin doesn't work. The majority agrees to the roadmap presented, which is to have less on-chain scalability, but a more lasting form of superior censorship resistant money.

Quote from: hv_ on January 04, 2020, 02:52:55 PM

Lets give old original BitCoin the time of good Whiskey or red wine (and some industrial large distillery) to see if Satoshi got it all right after he decided its good to leave it to Gavin

Well, you can give it as much time as you want. It's probably not going to bode well for your portfolio I'm afraid.

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Quote from: hello_good_sir on January 04, 2020, 05:39:24 PM

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In a couple of hours from now, we'll know whether Dr. Wright is real satoshi or not.

Can the mainstream media just stop talking about him already? It's clear what's going to happen. The lies that he perpetuates are simply going to be excused by a plethora of BS, and his supporters are going to continue to suck it up until finally they realize that there is no chance that Wright is Satoshi; and that even if he is, so what? Satoshi's existence has no bearing on BTC's development anymore. So why feed it by creating more media attention for the man?

Well, the reason is that anything about Craig Wright and the things he can say will be attracting good traffic especially from people who are already into cryptocurrency. Though we are, of course, already treating him like a big joke but still he can be providing a very good entertainment. The Craig Wright sage will continue, whether we like it or not. I am enjoying to see him exposed himself to be a big liar in the eyes of the public and in opinion of the people in this industry.

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In a couple of hours from now, we'll know whether Dr. Wright is real satoshi or not.

Can the mainstream media just stop talking about him already?

It's clear what's going to happen. The lies that he perpetuates are simply going to be excused by a plethora of BS, and his supporters are going to continue to suck it up until finally they realize that there is no chance that Wright is Satoshi; and that even if he is, so what? Satoshi's existence has no bearing on BTC's development anymore.

So why feed it by creating more media attention for the man?

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Quote from: hv_ on January 03, 2020, 09:17:53 AM

We migth agree on RV, but for the rest I m happy to disagree.

I'm strong beleiver, that BitCoin is the new value protocol for the Internet, and needs to go industrial / enterprise in order to get used - like PMs (gold, silver,palladium) are used for different things

Only with that permanent multi-use - the SoV function comes in

Thank you for your civilized response(s). It's refreshing seeing a BSV supporter react to critique like that.

It's great for people that they have their own networks to support. It's better for Bitcoin too because the big blockers clearly were doing everything in their power to force their will upon Bitcoin but failed. Now they can successfully force their will upon their own networks. Everyone happy.

That's funny, normally my stuff gets into hate alert, ignore sections or delisted by the mods

Grin

I m very sad, that many Bitcoiners have been sold the mere of original BitCoin doesn't work, and so needs alterations and extra networks to wait for the fixing...

Lets give old original BitCoin the time of good Whiskey or red wine (and some industrial large distillery) to see if Satoshi got it all right after he decided its good to leave it to Gavin

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Quote from: hv_ on January 03, 2020, 09:17:53 AM

We migth agree on RV, but for the rest I m happy to disagree.

I'm strong beleiver, that BitCoin is the new value protocol for the Internet, and needs to go industrial / enterprise in order to get used - like PMs (gold, silver,palladium) are used for different things

Only with that permanent multi-use - the SoV function comes in

Thank you for your civilized response(s). It's refreshing seeing a BSV supporter react to critique like that.

It's great for people that they have their own networks to support. It's better for Bitcoin too because the big blockers clearly were doing everything in their power to force their will upon Bitcoin but failed. Now they can successfully force their will upon their own networks. Everyone happy.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on January 03, 2020, 05:45:41 PM

Besides Medium that he uses to blog none that I know of.

He's regularly quoted and I think it's all from private channels where he issues his decrees that you have to grovel to join.

Why would he be on a platform he couldn't boot you off? That doesn't fit the program.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on January 03, 2020, 06:03:58 AM

Quote from: LeGaulois on January 02, 2020, 11:29:43 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on January 02, 2020, 08:38:18 AM

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Ah. Thanks. As much as I despise Wright I hope he was banned for something actually ban-worthy. People being deplatformed these days just for something minor or saying something someone didn't like is getting pretty annoying and quite scary with how frequent it happens and over such minor events. People are far too soft these days. People can't even take a joke and the sad thing is even liberal comedians are getting treated the same as actual fascists.

Is he communicating directly on any other platform?

Besides Medium that he uses to blog none that I know of.

Nowadays if you fart too much you can be labeled as a terrorist attacking with mustard gas, in my country we have a few cases of people sued just for giving their opinion on Facebook (and not necessarily something extreme)

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Quote from: 1Referee on January 03, 2020, 07:50:06 AM

Quote from: hv_ on January 03, 2020, 04:44:12 AM

We only know CSW is creating lots of work and patents around original BitCoin - to get it ready for enterprice useage

How original is original when only a handful of (mostly shady) people believe it is so?

Also, patents are a plague to anything that supports freedom and free use, which in the end, makes the world a better place. Enterprises don't need Bitcoin at all, just a database that works and allows for more scalability where decentralization is never at risk because that's not their aim at all.

Roger Ver is a douchebag, but at least he doesn't give a damn about patents and the law. The sole purpose of crypto is to not give a damn. CSW could very well be a government spy.

We migth agree on RV, but for the rest I m happy to disagree.

I'm strong beleiver, that BitCoin is the new value protocol for the Internet, and needs to go industrial / enterprise in order to get used - like PMs (gold, silver,palladium) are used for different things

Only with that permanent multi-use - the SoV function comes in

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Quote from: hv_ on January 03, 2020, 04:44:12 AM

We only know CSW is creating lots of work and patents around original BitCoin - to get it ready for enterprice useage

How original is original when only a handful of (mostly shady) people believe it is so?

Also, patents are a plague to anything that supports freedom and free use, which in the end, makes the world a better place. Enterprises don't need Bitcoin at all, just a database that works and allows for more scalability where decentralization is never at risk because that's not their aim at all.

Roger Ver is a douchebag, but at least he doesn't give a damn about patents and the law. The sole purpose of crypto is to not give a damn. CSW could very well be a government spy.

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So was THAT the guy that came to my house with a USB stick a couple of days back? I thought it was a scammer, with his claims of Tulip Trustee and how much he needed my help to transport the world's biggest digital fortune, along with that of a retired widow of former Leader of some deposed regime.

Agree CW should change his job, but probably not for box office screenwriter. Straight to cable hallmark feel-good movies, cause all he does is write stories to make himself feel good about... himself.

Oh and yeah has anyone opened their wallet? I'm like gentlemand. Too afraid my wallet will crash from the fatal flaw. I'm really, really worried now.

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Quote from: LeGaulois on January 02, 2020, 11:29:43 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on January 02, 2020, 08:38:18 AM

Also, what happened to Craig's twitter? Can't seem to find it.

https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus

His account has been suspended some months back, after some harassing tweets. He created another account then but the same happened.
I don't remember very well but there is a story too with a bot on Twitter that was retweeting all his tweets (for people blocked by him). He started to cry saying the bot breaks copyright law and stealing intellectual property.

Ah. Thanks. As much as I despise Wright I hope he was banned for something actually ban-worthy. People being deplatformed these days just for something minor or saying something someone didn't like is getting pretty annoying and quite scary with how frequent it happens and over such minor events. People are far too soft these days. People can't even take a joke and the sad thing is even liberal comedians are getting treated the same as actual fascists.

Is he communicating directly on any other platform?

Quote from: stomachgrowls on January 03, 2020, 02:24:56 AM

What happened to this? We're already Jan. 3 and i cant see any further updates towards this unlocking event. Grin

Cant find even his Twitter.
By the way i do enjoy on reading this up: https://modernconsensus.com/people/exclusive-craig-wright-what-ill-do-with-satoshi-nakamotos-billions/

See above.

Quote from: hv_ on January 03, 2020, 04:44:12 AM

We might know nothing

Dave died, and might have never set up things to 'deliver'.

Who knows ? - It is all speculation here.

We only know CSW is creating lots of work and patents around original BitCoin - to get it ready for enterprice useage

2020 will Show that

There is almost certainly no courier or at least not one sent by anyone other than Craig himself. Craig is a total fantasist but it makes me wonder why he doesn't put a bit more thought into certain things. Setting such an early date on this magical courier is just another self-imposed shot in the foot when he has to explain why it didn't happen. Why didn't he say the courier will turn up in 2030 or something. At least that gives him plenty of time to think up a better excuse.

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who is Craig Wright's ?
i think he just a crazy people, want to scaming everywhere, i still remember the video when vitalik buterin humiliating him in public.
today this billion transaction is expired, and now we all know this people just a fake sathosi

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We might know nothing

Dave died, and might have never set up things to 'deliver'.

Who knows ? - It is all speculation here.

We only know CSW is creating lots of work and patents around original BitCoin - to get it ready for enterprice useage

2020 will Show that

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What happened to this? We're already Jan. 3 and i cant see any further updates towards this unlocking event. Grin

Cant find even his Twitter.
By the way i do enjoy on reading this up: https://modernconsensus.com/people/exclusive-craig-wright-what-ill-do-with-satoshi-nakamotos-billions/

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I really didn't expect anything but another show from Craig Wright and his supporters. I know that this kind of shit will happen and they will have a lot of reasons why he didn't receive the 1 Million Bitcoin yesterday. I would expect that this will last for months of reasoning why he still doesn't have those BTC in his trust before this new naturally dies down. Maybe the next news we will be seeing is that the courier got the wrong address or he still thinks that it is still 2019 that is why there has been a delay on his part.

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Still no development on this anywhere and it seems that the bonded courier has died along the way, lost the keys somewhat or any other bullshit CSW has to come up with to delay his imprisonment and to answer some questions that have long been waiting for him on courts. His 5-year (or more) long stint as a madman, liar and a clown to the crypto community is drawing to its end, and if those keys weren't delivered immediately, we know what's the next episodes would be on this drama.

Quote from: cr1776 on January 02, 2020, 11:21:13 AM

Wright has been contradicting himself over and over in court, e.g.

The judge: "This is not the first time that the Defendant has made certain representations regarding the membership of W&K. Indeed, the Court notes that the Defendant has made several conflicting statements [Court’s emphasis] regarding even his own ownership of W&K.” At various times in both Australian and U.S. courts, Wright claimed that he was not an owner of W&K, was a half owner of W&K, had never been an owner of W&K, and had “no idea” who owned W&K.

And things like: "...an email allegedly sent by Dave Kleiman via PGP encryption that Wright’s team withdrew after people following the case figured out that its PGP signature showed that it was sent a year after Kleiman’s death."

I have little doubt that he is not Satoshi for many reasons - his writing style, his truthfulness, his actions and many other things.

What would you expect from a liar who can't even keep a lie straight, nor complement some of his previous lies? His cockiness and arrogance will inevitably send him to jail, and I'm sure that that would happen Q1 of 2020.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on January 02, 2020, 08:38:18 AM

Also, what happened to Craig's twitter? Can't seem to find it.

https://twitter.com/ProfFaustus

His account has been suspended some months back, after some harassing tweets. He created another account then but the same happened.
I don't remember very well but there is a story too with a bot on Twitter that was retweeting all his tweets (for people blocked by him). He started to cry saying the bot breaks copyright law and stealing intellectual property.

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Wright has been contradicting himself over and over in court, e.g.

The judge: "This is not the first time that the Defendant has made certain representations regarding the membership of W&K. Indeed, the Court notes that the Defendant has made several conflicting statements [Court’s emphasis] regarding even his own ownership of W&K.” At various times in both Australian and U.S. courts, Wright claimed that he was not an owner of W&K, was a half owner of W&K, had never been an owner of W&K, and had “no idea” who owned W&K.

And things like: "...an email allegedly sent by Dave Kleiman via PGP encryption that Wright’s team withdrew after people following the case figured out that its PGP signature showed that it was sent a year after Kleiman’s death."

I have little doubt that he is not Satoshi for many reasons - his writing style, his truthfulness, his actions and many other things.

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Quote from: Lmaooo on December 30, 2019, 07:42:21 PM

However, Wright claimed he was unable to access the funds, as they were held in the Tulip Trust, a Seychelles-based fund. But, despite having lost the keys to the funds, Wright claims Kleiman hired a bonded courier to return the keys to Wright on Jan. 1, 2020.

Craig Wright should consider a career as a screenwriter as he's a master storyteller aka bullshit artist. A bonded courier? I just get this image of someone on an all black motorcycle coming over the horizon to hand over a magic USB stick to Craig then mysteriously disappear.

Actual picture of Trinity delivering Satoshi directly to Craig:

What I don't understand is why did he give himself a date of 2020 and not one in the distant future as he should know he's just going to have to answer more questions when the so-called courier doesn't show up and then come out with more bullshit explanations. I really wonder if he's going to continue with this shtick to the grave. I'd have much more respect for him if he just came out of the crypto closet and claim it was just some elaborate troll for the lulz.

Also, what happened to Craig's twitter? Can't seem to find it.

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Quote from: Lmaooo on December 30, 2019, 07:42:21 PM

In a couple of hours from now, we'll know whether Dr. Wright is real satoshi or not.

Don't we know since 2016 that he's not Satoshi Nakamoto? Why all the fuzz around a new "document" which, knowing this guy's history, is most probably forged?

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Yeah nah, I think that the myth that he is satoshi has been debunked too many times for it to hold any further value.

The fact is that he is not the real satoshi, nor will satoshi likely ever resurface again. I'm not sure why people are putting so much significance on satoshi's real identity - it really does not matter whatsoever when it comes to bitcoin's long term fundamental development, as seen by the past decade without him.

But no, Craig Wright has been exposed in the past and will simply continue to lie and fabricate.

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Fantastic. As a consequence of this, at what point can we start moving all CSW topics to the altcoins board? There's clearly no link whatsoever between Bitcoin and that insipid con-man. So it should now be beyond all reasonable doubt that all of his future pantomime sideshows won't be discussed in the Bitcoin-related boards.

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but at what stage is everyone, his followers, us and the media going to STOP
believing his absurd claims and affording media space and attention?

everyone needs to STOP posting articles concerning him and he should
be referred to as "he who must not be named"

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 01, 2020, 08:46:29 AM

~snip~

Basic misconceptions that have successfully marketed by CW and Roger Ver is that BCH&BSV actually are real Bitcoins, and not only that - they are cheap so you can buy 1 coin for $100 or $300. Putting this in the context of the misconception that only 1 BTC must and can be purchased, we get a success formula for these clones that are the complete opposite of the original Bitcoin in terms of decentralization.

I was curious what the CW says exactly about this trust, so I visit his site and luckily for all of us he has no plans to dump all coins at once, but to use them in period of 12 months to make BSV stronger Roll Eyes

I will not post link to give him more free promotion, but if you are interested it is easy to find.

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Another day another BS thing i do read up once again by CW. Just move some satoshis from said wallet and this will clear up anything. Actions speak louder than words! Actually got tired on reading up another gimmick made by this clown.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on January 01, 2020, 08:46:29 AM

It is a real possibility that new investors coming to the market might invest in coins like BCH and BSV thinking it as a fork of BTCitcoin and hoping that if there is a rally then they could get a much bigger profit than spending $7000 for a single BTCitcoin and when ever there is a rally in BTCitcoin all these fork coins also rise along with them and hence it might give them the profit they are looking for when there is rally Wink

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Unedifying as it is to admit I'd say they're almost certainly right. Their own psychology means that a ton of others will reach the exact same conclusion. All BCH and BSV have to do is stay alive long enough for BTC to do its thing and they'll rise higher proportionally and faster simply because they started so much further down.

And since BSV only has one miner and BCH has a couple there's a mountain of profit that'll go into the pockets of a handful of people.

Where most people will fail is that they're not as cynical as the creators of those coins so most of them will hang on all the way back down again.

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Quote from: Lucius on January 01, 2020, 06:35:06 AM

as long as there are those who think it is better to buy 1 BSV for $100, then 1 BTC for $7000 the game will continue.

It is a real possibility that new investors coming to the market might invest in coins like BCH and BSV thinking it as a fork of BTCitcoin and hoping that if there is a rally then they could get a much bigger profit than spending $7000 for a single BTCitcoin and when ever there is a rally in BTCitcoin all these fork coins also rise along with them and hence it might give them the profit they are looking for when there is rally Wink

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Quote from: gentlemand on December 31, 2019, 03:13:42 PM

Screw the fortune, what about the fatal flaw?

The fatal flaw was his prediction that BTCitcoin will be destroyed Cheesy

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Quote from: Vishnu.Reang on December 31, 2019, 10:42:44 PM

What he did was not illegal, per se. But it was very unethical and immoral. Now we know that Satoshi Nakamoto was a selfless individual who cared little about accumulating personal wealth. Wright's behavior is polar opposite of that of Satoshi.

If that was indeed the case, then it was a very good plan that brought him a fortune. However, in order to succeed in this, he had to manipulate the law very skillfully, and also with people who for some reason bought all that BSV again. I and the vast majority of people involved with crypto would never have thought of investing a single cent in this coin, but obviously there are those who live under the delusion that the BCH or BSV are real Bitcoin.

The fact that BSV is in the top 10 in CMC means that CW is able to keep its vision alive, and though many would like to see it fail, as long as there are those who think it is better to buy 1 BSV for $100, then 1 BTC for $7000 the game will continue.

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Quote from: joniboini on December 31, 2019, 12:30:10 AM

At this point, I don't really care whether he's satoshi or not. If he continues spreading bullshit anywhere even if he's satoshi, then I will just ignore him.

LOL... it is funny that you guys still have doubts regarding that. Crag Wright first claimed that he was the real Satoshi many years back. And since then, he has failed to show a single piece of evidence to support his claim. Now I am 100% sure that he is not the real Satoshi. I'll tell you the reason:

Earlier this year (2019), Mr. Wright forked the BCH chain and came up with his own coin (BSV). After that he came up with some ingenious method to cheat the cryptocurrency users and make money for himself.

First, he crashed the BSV exchange rates by filing lawsuits against those who said that he was not the real Satoshi. A lot of the exchanges and wallets (including Blockchain.info) delisted the BSV coin and its exchange rate crashed. Wright used this opportunity to accumulate BSV.

Once this step was completed, he filed for the patent in the United States and the BSV prices suddenly jumped by 200%. As per reliable sources, Mr. Wright sold a large part of his stash and made a few hundred million USD.

What he did was not illegal, per se. But it was very unethical and immoral. Now we know that Satoshi Nakamoto was a selfless individual who cared little about accumulating personal wealth. Wright's behavior is polar opposite of that of Satoshi.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wansagfJnbo&t=1m35s

https://u.today/bitcoin-has-one-day-left-until-fatal-flaw-destroys-it-according-to-craig-wrights-prediction

Screw the fortune, what about the fatal flaw?

Has anyone done a transaction today? Has anyone checked their wallet? I'm too freaking terrified to check. I'm holed up in a horse's womb.

I love him myself. I can't wait to see what they pull next to try and keep the plates spinning. It's amazing to watch. Even more amazing to witness the devotion/denial of his acolytes.

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OP's forum name is exactly how I react to news articles like this; Lmaoooooooooooo!!!

That dude is broke as fuck. CSW needs daddy Calvin to open up his wallet each time he has a plan but not the money to execute it. Not in a hundred years do I believe that Calvin thinks CSW is satoshi, he just wants CSW to do the dirty work for him. The only thing that matters to him is to make as much profit as possible, hence the reason BSV's roadmap is to be a corporate and compliant network.

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At this point, I don't really care whether he's satoshi or not. If he continues spreading bullshit anywhere even if he's satoshi, then I will just ignore him.

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Quote from: hatshepsut93 on December 30, 2019, 09:10:25 PM

Quote from: Lmaooo on December 30, 2019, 07:42:21 PM

This is interesting, guys

In a couple of hours from now, we'll know whether Dr. Wright is real satoshi or not.

There's nothing interesting about it, anyone who reads the news at at least a little bit familiar with this Craig Wright character knows that he is full of shit, so there's no Tulip trust and no 1m BTC, just like there was no critical vulnerability that CWS promised to publish. This dude can't even be a good clown, despite his hardest attempts at trying to be one, so let's just forget about him, okay? We're entering a new decade tomorrow, let's leave this scammer behind.

That's right. The more we are listening to all the lies and concocted fantastic stories that Craig Wright is spewing the more we are lending him some semblance of legitimacy and the more that he is encouraged to be making more unfounded claims. Anyway, the man is already rich and he can even be laughing to the back as we speak so in 2020 we should not anymore be giving him that space in the world of cryptocurrency. We do not the kind of clownish acts he is providing us, albeit being free and attention-grabbing. We have enough of Craig Wright in 2019 let's give him a thumbs down sign this 2020.

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Quote from: Lmaooo on December 30, 2019, 07:42:21 PM

This is interesting, guys

In a couple of hours from now, we'll know whether Dr. Wright is real satoshi or not.

There's nothing interesting about it, anyone who reads the news at at least a little bit familiar with this Craig Wright character knows that he is full of shit, so there's no Tulip trust and no 1m BTC, just like there was no critical vulnerability that CWS promised to publish. This dude can't even be a good clown, despite his hardest attempts at trying to be one, so let's just forget about him, okay? We're entering a new decade tomorrow, let's leave this scammer behind.

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This is interesting, guys

In a couple of hours from now, we'll know whether Dr. Wright is real satoshi or not.

"Craig Wright is set to receive the keys for more than 1 million bitcoins, the crypto community is becoming impatient to see whether the self-proclaimed Satoshi Nakamoto will deliver on its promise. Worth more than $8 billion at press time, the unlocked Bitcoins could tank the entire crypto market."

The notorious Tulip Trust to be unlocked on Jan. 1, 2020
Craig Wright, the chief scientist at nChain and chief defender at BSV, has been at the forefront of crypto news from 2018. However, the self-proclaimed Satoshi Nakamoto could see his reign over crypto industry drama come to an end at the beginning of next year.

Wright has been embroiled in a dramatic legal battle with the estate of his former partner Dave Kleiman, with whom he allegedly mined more than 1 million bitcoins in the cryptocurrency’s early days. Kleiman’s estate has successfully sued Wright and won the rights to half of the fortune they mined, worth more than $8 billion today.

However, Wright claimed he was unable to access the funds, as they were held in the Tulip Trust, a Seychelles-based fund. But, despite having lost the keys to the funds, Wright claims Kleiman hired a bonded courier to return the keys to Wright on Jan. 1, 2020.

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