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Quote from: agustina2 on December 03, 2021, 08:47:37 PM

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His shooting is just needed. No need for that nasty drives and Milo best movements.

He might not be the slashing/flashy type but he's not going to be static on the court either. You can't expect him to just wait in the corner and wait for a pass. He has to keep moving to get into positions and defend too.

Quote from: qwertyup23 on December 04, 2021, 01:48:14 AM

~ I do think that we have a brand new rivalry on the NBA- Suns vs GSW!

When we talk about these teams, they're not there yet. It's more like a continuation of CP3-Curry rivalry from the Clippers/Rockets-GSW days.

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The game between the Suns and GSW was like redemption of the latter due to their loss on their first game. I do think that we have a brand new rivalry on the NBA- Suns vs GSW! I am so excited to see them compete neck-and-neck in the playoffs given their exceptional talents and skills as a team.

I would like to also point out that Curry had an off-night during his first game with the Suns that contributed to the loss. While other players on GSW stepped-up, Curry shot like 4/21 on the field but tonight's game is different. He showed that he can bounce back from this slight barrier and be a better player.

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Unfortunately the Suns couldn't beat the Warriors. I would so much like Phoenix to win this game to continue the team's wins streak, but it didn't.

Curry and CP3 played less than expected, but some reserve GSW players played well.
Warriors scored 48.7% on the 3-point line, for me that is a relevant number.

I believe that the absence of Booker, CP3 not playing very well and the Warriors having a 48.7% (3 point shoot) and 48.9% scored shoots, I believe was a decisive and important factor for the victory of the Warriors.

I will be anxious to the others games between these teams.

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^The other dunk that I loved is from GPII. That was one hell of a high leap. But, if the early reverse dunk alley-oop from Curry to Wiggins went in, it could be the best highlight of the game. Sadly, it hit the back of the rim.
Another highlight is the Shaqtin-a-Fool of the referee. They forgot 1 more free throw and stopped the game while everyone was confused about what is happening. Oh yes, Shaq will do have fun with that. Grin

So that's it, Suns streak is broken since October 26 if I am not mistaken.
The real game changer:

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As expected, GSW come back strong against the Suns and this dunk could have sum it all:

JTA postering Javale McGee:

The game is not over yet, but GSW with a huge lead, 113-89. Thus, they will end the Suns winning streak.

Steph with 20+ point game with 4 other players scoring in double digits.

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The Clippers take the game again against the lakers.

I think that even if you are a diehard Lakers fan, you should be very skeptical of this team now.

They got beaten with Lebron & AD & Russ with a crippled Clippers team on a 3 game losing streak without Kawhi. Something major has got to go down in terms of trades, otherwise they might be a play-in team honestly.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 02, 2021, 03:05:17 PM

I don't think he is gonna play this month. Not only does he need to recover he needs to get into game shape. Pretty much not playing in the NBA will screw anyone up. I expect him to have trouble in the beginning shaking defenders. He will be more a spot shooter, and stationary is easy to cover. Not being totally pessimistic but that's a ton of time off it will take him a couple months to get into complete game shape

He will play this month. December 24, Golden State Warriors vs Memphis Grizzlies. That's what I saw in some clips recently and I will try to find it.

He already recovered and working to get back on track for several months now. His shooting ability will not change but only his athleticism or those straight drives to the hoop. You are right, more on a spot shooter and an easy pick will do the job. But eventually, when he thinks his body is now cooperating, he will back again slowly on his usual.

I also expect that Thompson may return in December, but it's worth noting that he has missed the last two seasons. So wheelz1200 is right that it will take Klay a few more months after returning to fully regain his game shape. Anyway, the most important thing for the Warriors is that Klay can play as before by the time the playoffs start.

There are reports that also says that January will likely be the return of Klay.

Regardless, he will need a lot of adjustments again after missing 2 seasons. But the good thing is that they can gauge it right away by looking at how Durant come back from the same injury as Klay. So the blue print is already there and maybe GSW will just have to look at how Durant come back last year. I know that players body are very different, but at least they have something to compare. Maybe 5-10 minutes will do in the next couple of games and then extend it if they see a huge progress in Klay.

Nice analysis, if Durant were able to come back and play his MVP form, therefore it's not impossible for Klay. Also, we can also look at the injury of Paul George which are very serious, and look how he is playing now, he is still playing like an MVP.

Oh yeah, another good case in Paul George as well but his injury is not that same as Klay or Durant in my opinion. Nevertheless, this are great NBA athletes that rises to the occasion and was able to come back strong in their careers and hopefully Klay does as he is still in his prime years.

So let's see Klay when he comes back, maybe he would change his style to prevent recurring his injuries in the first couple of games. But we all love him for being a spot shooter and a good defender.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 03, 2021, 08:34:26 PM

Pg's injuries and klays are completely different. Pg snap and bone whereas klay tore ligaments. Look at what tearing a knee did to d rose. At 22-23 he was annihilating the league and is now just getting back his shiftyness. Was years of getting back to form. I have high hopes for klay but this year will probably be a wash for him.

But Klay's gameplay is different from PG and DRose.

There's no need for much movement on Klay's gameplay, the catch, and shoot. Different to PG and DRose that always slashing their way into the hoop that needs more athleticism and body movement.

His shooting is just needed. No need for that nasty drives and Milo best movements.

Bone breaks are much different then acl/mcl issues. And klay isn't just a spot shooter, otherwise he would be easy to guard. I'm all for having klay come back but he had two devastating injuries in 2 years to his ligaments. Bone breaks once they heal they are almost stronger which isn't the case with ligaments

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Quote from: Dave1 on December 03, 2021, 08:11:23 PM

Regarding the lost of Booker, yeah, it will be a big blown, back to back games and then facing the Warriors again. That will hurry hurt their chances tonight.

It has a chance that their winning streak will now be stopped. But knowing Phoenix Suns, they should be more inspired to win and shows to anybody that even there's no Booker, there's no problem.

Curry, even rarely having an off-night performance doesn't mean it won't happen again. Suns just need to focus on defending the Warriors' best scorers to maintain the momentum and keep up with the Warriors.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 03, 2021, 08:34:26 PM

Pg's injuries and klays are completely different. Pg snap and bone whereas klay tore ligaments. Look at what tearing a knee did to d rose. At 22-23 he was annihilating the league and is now just getting back his shiftyness. Was years of getting back to form. I have high hopes for klay but this year will probably be a wash for him.

But Klay's gameplay is different from PG and DRose.

There's no need for much movement on Klay's gameplay, the catch, and shoot. Different to PG and DRose that always slashing their way into the hoop that needs more athleticism and body movement.

His shooting is just needed. No need for that nasty drives and Milo best movements.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on December 02, 2021, 03:05:17 PM

I don't think he is gonna play this month. Not only does he need to recover he needs to get into game shape. Pretty much not playing in the NBA will screw anyone up. I expect him to have trouble in the beginning shaking defenders. He will be more a spot shooter, and stationary is easy to cover. Not being totally pessimistic but that's a ton of time off it will take him a couple months to get into complete game shape

He will play this month. December 24, Golden State Warriors vs Memphis Grizzlies. That's what I saw in some clips recently and I will try to find it.

He already recovered and working to get back on track for several months now. His shooting ability will not change but only his athleticism or those straight drives to the hoop. You are right, more on a spot shooter and an easy pick will do the job. But eventually, when he thinks his body is now cooperating, he will back again slowly on his usual.

I also expect that Thompson may return in December, but it's worth noting that he has missed the last two seasons. So wheelz1200 is right that it will take Klay a few more months after returning to fully regain his game shape. Anyway, the most important thing for the Warriors is that Klay can play as before by the time the playoffs start.

There are reports that also says that January will likely be the return of Klay.

Regardless, he will need a lot of adjustments again after missing 2 seasons. But the good thing is that they can gauge it right away by looking at how Durant come back from the same injury as Klay. So the blue print is already there and maybe GSW will just have to look at how Durant come back last year. I know that players body are very different, but at least they have something to compare. Maybe 5-10 minutes will do in the next couple of games and then extend it if they see a huge progress in Klay.

Nice analysis, if Durant were able to come back and play his MVP form, therefore it's not impossible for Klay. Also, we can also look at the injury of Paul George which are very serious, and look how he is playing now, he is still playing like an MVP.

Pg's injuries and klays are completely different. Pg snap and bone whereas klay tore ligaments. Look at what tearing a knee did to d rose. At 22-23 he was annihilating the league and is now just getting back his shiftyness. Was years of getting back to form. I have high hopes for klay but this year will probably be a wash for him.

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Quote from: timerland on December 03, 2021, 06:16:26 PM

They already defeated the GSW once so I don't think that there is anything mentally challenging about defeating them again.

I do think that Steph will come ready though. The narratives of him being stopped by the Suns defence will tick him off personally for sure.

Phoenix Suns will not play on their healthy lineup. Might not be considered as a disadvantage but Booker plays a big role in why the Suns are currently on the longest winning streak of their franchise.

Golden State Warriors are also in a full level of play whenever playing at homecourt.

Can't think of who will win. I'm expecting a close game.

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Quote from: jaberwock on December 03, 2021, 04:26:47 PM

I am sure that after so many games back to back, Suns will have a bit of hard time against GSW but if they can go over that hump then I do not know when they will stop. They are seriously doing one of the most epic runs I have seen, they are at 18 game winning streak right now and that is a huge winning streak. I do not remember anytime Suns were this dominating, and I mean Nash and Marion era neither, they were good but not 18 wins in a row after a finals good, I do not think they even made to finals with that team neither.

So, I assume that by the "success" they had, this is by far the best Suns team we have watched in decades. Let's see how they will do, this time there is no Jordan to stop them neither so I hope they will do better.

The Suns with Nash, Marion, and Stoudemire were only in WCF, and their maximum winning streak was 17 games. So you're right that the current roster surpassed them, although it's worth noting that the Suns' performance in those seasons was also epic. Regarding the upcoming game against the Warriors, I think it should be hard for the Suns, considering they will play without Booker. I wonder if they will be able to stop Curry again.

Well they did a good job on Curry the first time, but I think this will be different as the game will be hosted by the Warriors. And just like any other team, they are comfortable in their homecourt so Curry might score more on this game so it is to be expected but for sure Suns will try to clamp him up again.

Regarding the lost of Booker, yeah, it will be a big blown, back to back games and then facing the Warriors again. That will hurry hurt their chances tonight.

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Quote from: jaberwock on December 03, 2021, 04:26:47 PM

I am sure that after so many games back to back, Suns will have a bit of hard time against GSW but if they can go over that hump then I do not know when they will stop. They are seriously doing one of the most epic runs I have seen, they are at 18 game winning streak right now and that is a huge winning streak. I do not remember anytime Suns were this dominating, and I mean Nash and Marion era neither, they were good but not 18 wins in a row after a finals good, I do not think they even made to finals with that team neither.

So, I assume that by the "success" they had, this is by far the best Suns team we have watched in decades. Let's see how they will do, this time there is no Jordan to stop them neither so I hope they will do better.

The Suns with Nash, Marion, and Stoudemire were only in WCF, and their maximum winning streak was 17 games. So you're right that the current roster surpassed them, although it's worth noting that the Suns' performance in those seasons was also epic. Regarding the upcoming game against the Warriors, I think it should be hard for the Suns, considering they will play without Booker. I wonder if they will be able to stop Curry again.

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Quote from: jaberwock on December 03, 2021, 04:26:47 PM

I am sure that after so many games back to back, Suns will have a bit of hard time against GSW but if they can go over that hump then I do not know when they will stop. They are seriously doing one of the most epic runs I have seen, they are at 18 game winning streak right now and that is a huge winning streak. I do not remember anytime Suns were this dominating, and I mean Nash and Marion era neither, they were good but not 18 wins in a row after a finals good, I do not think they even made to finals with that team neither.

So, I assume that by the "success" they had, this is by far the best Suns team we have watched in decades. Let's see how they will do, this time there is no Jordan to stop them neither so I hope they will do better.

They already defeated the GSW once so I don't think that there is anything mentally challenging about defeating them again.

I do think that Steph will come ready though. The narratives of him being stopped by the Suns defence will tick him off personally for sure.

In other news, who have you guys got for Lakers vs. Clippers?

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Quote from: jaberwock on December 03, 2021, 04:26:47 PM

....So, I assume that by the "success" they had, this is by far the best Suns team we have watched in decades.

They could have won the title last season if not for that freak from Greece hehe. That alone is enough for me to say they were the best team and the current winning streak is just an icing on the cake.

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Let's see how they will do, this time there is no Jordan to stop them neither so I hope they will do better.

Are you talking about Michael? There was Kobe in Steve's time. Epic battles between those two.

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I am sure that after so many games back to back, Suns will have a bit of hard time against GSW but if they can go over that hump then I do not know when they will stop. They are seriously doing one of the most epic runs I have seen, they are at 18 game winning streak right now and that is a huge winning streak. I do not remember anytime Suns were this dominating, and I mean Nash and Marion era neither, they were good but not 18 wins in a row after a finals good, I do not think they even made to finals with that team neither.

So, I assume that by the "success" they had, this is by far the best Suns team we have watched in decades. Let's see how they will do, this time there is no Jordan to stop them neither so I hope they will do better.

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Winding down.

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What a game for the Bulls last night! I got to it a little bit late not getting back from the gym quite on time for the opening tip, but I was able to watch most of the first though the rest of the game. Once again the Bulls started off super hot, and got up to a huge lead which they allowed the Knicks to come back in the game and even go up at one point. Thankfully the big 3 ( Lavine, DeRozan, Vuc) kept them in it and lead a comeback for the Win. 34 for DeRozan, and 27 for both Lavine and Vuc was awesome to see. What maybe best of all to see is how Vuc has been playing of late. We needed him to step up and start playing like the All-Star he is and he's been doing just that of late.

What's scary is that DeRozan started slow in the first quarter but still finished big. Vuc was also hot in the 1st quarter and he has a good 2 games too under his belt. It looks like the Bulls have found it's rhythm again with this big win against the Knicks.

Bulls were very efficient on that game, the big 3 are once again showing their chemistry as the scores based on their stats.

Vucevic 27 points
DeRozan 34 points
LaVine 27 points.

If LA Lakers had these kind of chemistry for their big 3, they'll also be successful this season like the Bulls.

Quote from: Baofeng on December 03, 2021, 03:28:18 PM

Seems that smart money now is on the Golden State against the Suns. Let's see if Curry will break out of his slump from their first game and will have his usually 30++ points in this game. I also bet on them -6.5.

I'm not sure if it's a smart money or the public money, but I am hoping the warriors will take a revenge here.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on December 03, 2021, 10:50:43 AM

What a game for the Bulls last night! I got to it a little bit late not getting back from the gym quite on time for the opening tip, but I was able to watch most of the first though the rest of the game. Once again the Bulls started off super hot, and got up to a huge lead which they allowed the Knicks to come back in the game and even go up at one point. Thankfully the big 3 ( Lavine, DeRozan, Vuc) kept them in it and lead a comeback for the Win. 34 for DeRozan, and 27 for both Lavine and Vuc was awesome to see. What maybe best of all to see is how Vuc has been playing of late. We needed him to step up and start playing like the All-Star he is and he's been doing just that of late.

What's scary is that DeRozan started slow in the first quarter but still finished big. Vuc was also hot in the 1st quarter and he has a good 2 games too under his belt. It looks like the Bulls have found it's rhythm again with this big win against the Knicks.

Seems that smart money now is on the Golden State against the Suns. Let's see if Curry will break out of his slump from their first game and will have his usually 30++ points in this game. I also bet on them -6.5.

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Nice analysis, if Durant were able to come back and play his MVP form, therefore it's not impossible for Klay. Also, we can also look at the injury of Paul George which are very serious, and look how he is playing now, he is still playing like an MVP.

It's the mentality that had always been the issue for injured players after healing physically. I think being on the sideline watching live games helps him be pumped up again to be on the court being cheered by the fans. He must really miss that feeling of entertaining us. I have seen interviews from both Coach Kerr and their management telling the media no one is forcing him to come back yet. That's better than letting last year happen again.

Paul George and Kevin Durant took their time and the results are better. Klay Thompson should do the same and he doesn't need to worry about the team because they are in good hands. It will just be better if he comes back. Wink

I think Klay Thompson had enough time to rest already, he missed 2 seasons already if I'm not mistaken, so he needs to play here as he also feels that he is healed already. The fact that he already joined the team's practice, tells that he can play physical again and start helping his team to be in the NBA Finals. Maybe my expectation is high but I just love this guy to be on the court so the Warriors will be a stronger team.

Every great player has to comeback, and I think Klay is one of them, it's already due, he has been out for 2 seasons already so the itch is already there to play again with his team mates. So for sure his mind is already set for a return either this month or next month.

So it will be important that he play this season, and as long as he knows his body and maybe Steve Kerr will allow him to play the usual then we might see him back and far better before he gets injured. Seeing him together with Steph is a thing of beauty and then hitting those 3 again, will remind us of the GSW championship team again.

Imagine if Curry, Thompson, and Poole will be hitting easy 3 points shots, that would make them unbeatable as a team. I mean, they don't need to play together I guess as the Warriors also need a good 3 point shooter on their 2nd unit, but for sure they'll be tougher to beat with a healthy Thompson back in the roster.

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