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Quote from: btc_angela on July 10, 2021, 05:48:01 PM

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I agree, even with the Hawks win, they have to limit their opponent to less than 100 to secure a victory. So it means that they have to play good defense and then fuel their offense with Giannis, Middleton and Holiday. So that's the blue print to beat the Suns, but it's easier said than done though, Suns is a high octane fast break team lead by CP3, if somewhat they can limit it or force the Suns to a horrendous shooting night, they might win game 3 in a blow out.

Yeah, it's easier said than done but we said the same thing when they were down against Nets. Nets had the big 3 for Bucks to contend with and they did. Suns know that they have a very good chance at winning the finals since they're 2-0 up and would want to make it harder by pushing for a 3-0 lead. Bucks needs not let this happen. They have to be at their best at the back and even when going forward, they need to ensure that they don't give Suns careless opportunities to score points. After the first two games, it would be interesting to see what coach bud has in store for Game 3 of the series for Bucks.

I'm hoping the return to Fiserv Forum would work wonders for Bucks since they would have all the support they need.

Quote from: nelson4lov on July 10, 2021, 04:49:25 PM

...But since we're focusing on game 3, I'll leave it there for now.

First they have to get over the hump and win game 3 first. That is the first task in hand for the Bucks. So take it one game at a time. Don't look to tie the game 2-2. Game 3 is the most critical game for them. If they win then now they can focus on the next to even the series. As @stadus said, at 0-3, they might as well say goodbye to their dream of having a NBA ring for Giannis. The other core team members, Middleton, Holiday and Lopez will have to produce good numbers in game 2.

I would also go for the Bucks, homecourt advantage + a must win situation.

Yeah, I did acknowledged that it's one game at a time for them. If Bucks can will game 3, that would give them the much needed motivation for the rest of the series from game 4 but winning game 3 is a top priority right now.

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That's possible as we have seen a lot of NBA Finals where a team being down 0-2 were able to come back and win the championship, they just have to avoid the 0-3 because no one has ever come back from that deficit in the NBA history. Home court and playing on the road are different, on home court, they are well motivated as they have the support of the fans, so I would go for the Bucks in game 3, in fact, I had already posted my pick in the other thread.

I'm joining you to take the bet on Bucks for the game 3 of the series. While Sun has been the better team of the two in the first two games, I feel Bucks will do more than enough to get one back and possibly come to level terms by the time we get to game 4. But since we're focusing on game 3, I'll leave it there for now. Since the playoffs, Bucks has been working hard on comebacks. We might see them do it against sun just like they did to Nets from game 3 and Hawks from game 2. Fingers crossed for this one.

First they have to get over the hump and win game 3 first. That is the first task in hand for the Bucks. So take it one game at a time. Don't look to tie the game 2-2. Game 3 is the most critical game for them. If they win then now they can focus on the next to even the series. As @stadus said, at 0-3, they might as well say goodbye to their dream of having a NBA ring for Giannis. The other core team members, Middleton, Holiday and Lopez will have to produce good numbers in game 2.

I would also go for the Bucks, homecourt advantage + a must win situation.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on July 10, 2021, 04:49:25 PM

Quote from: nelson4lov on July 10, 2021, 04:49:25 PM

That's possible as we have seen a lot of NBA Finals where a team being down 0-2 were able to come back and win the championship, they just have to avoid the 0-3 because no one has ever come back from that deficit in the NBA history. Home court and playing on the road are different, on home court, they are well motivated as they have the support of the fans, so I would go for the Bucks in game 3, in fact, I had already posted my pick in the other thread.

I'm joining you to take the bet on Bucks for the game 3 of the series. While Sun has been the better team of the two in the first two games, I feel Bucks will do more than enough to get one back and possibly come to level terms by the time we get to game 4. But since we're focusing on game 3, I'll leave it there for now. Since the playoffs, Bucks has been working hard on comebacks. We might see them do it against sun just like they did to Nets from game 3 and Hawks from game 2. Fingers crossed for this one.

When the bucks were down 0-2 against the Nets, they had a great game in game 3 by focusing on the defense, allowing the suns to score 83 points only, and it's a success to see for a high scoring team unable to reach 100 points in a single game. They can do the same with the Suns, so maybe let's take a look and the over/under bet as well.

I agree, even with the Hawks win, they have to limit their opponent to less than 100 to secure a victory. So it means that they have to play good defense and then fuel their offense with Giannis, Middleton and Holiday. So that's the blue print to beat the Suns, but it's easier said than done though, Suns is a high octane fast break team lead by CP3, if somewhat they can limit it or force the Suns to a horrendous shooting night, they might win game 3 in a blow out.

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That's possible as we have seen a lot of NBA Finals where a team being down 0-2 were able to come back and win the championship, they just have to avoid the 0-3 because no one has ever come back from that deficit in the NBA history. Home court and playing on the road are different, on home court, they are well motivated as they have the support of the fans, so I would go for the Bucks in game 3, in fact, I had already posted my pick in the other thread.

I'm joining you to take the bet on Bucks for the game 3 of the series. While Sun has been the better team of the two in the first two games, I feel Bucks will do more than enough to get one back and possibly come to level terms by the time we get to game 4. But since we're focusing on game 3, I'll leave it there for now. Since the playoffs, Bucks has been working hard on comebacks. We might see them do it against sun just like they did to Nets from game 3 and Hawks from game 2. Fingers crossed for this one.

When the bucks were down 0-2 against the Nets, they had a great game in game 3 by focusing on the defense, allowing the suns to score 83 points only, and it's a success to see for a high scoring team unable to reach 100 points in a single game. They can do the same with the Suns, so maybe let's take a look and the over/under bet as well.

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Quote from: CLS63 on July 10, 2021, 04:21:42 PM

That's possible as we have seen a lot of NBA Finals where a team being down 0-2 were able to come back and win the championship, they just have to avoid the 0-3 because no one has ever come back from that deficit in the NBA history. Home court and playing on the road are different, on home court, they are well motivated as they have the support of the fans, so I would go for the Bucks in game 3, in fact, I had already posted my pick in the other thread.

I'm joining you to take the bet on Bucks for the game 3 of the series. While Sun has been the better team of the two in the first two games, I feel Bucks will do more than enough to get one back and possibly come to level terms by the time we get to game 4. But since we're focusing on game 3, I'll leave it there for now. Since the playoffs, Bucks has been working hard on comebacks. We might see them do it against sun just like they did to Nets from game 3 and Hawks from game 2. Fingers crossed for this one.

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We are one night away from the third game of the series now. Now we are going to Milwaukee and Fiserv Forum will host 2 games in a row. This is a really big chance for Bucks to make the series equal. Giannis has started playing as always. His last performance was just magnificent. As long as he keeps up the great work and gets a good support from Holiday and Middleton, Bucks can even win the series. They still aren't late for anything.

That's possible as we have seen a lot of NBA Finals where a team being down 0-2 were able to come back and win the championship, they just have to avoid the 0-3 because no one has ever come back from that deficit in the NBA history. Home court and playing on the road are different, on home court, they are well motivated as they have the support of the fans, so I would go for the Bucks in game 3, in fact, I had already posted my pick in the other thread.

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We are one night away from the third game of the series now. Now we are going to Milwaukee and Fiserv Forum will host 2 games in a row. This is a really big chance for Bucks to make the series equal. Giannis has started playing as always. His last performance was just magnificent. As long as he keeps up the great work and gets a good support from Holiday and Middleton, Bucks can even win the series. They still aren't late for anything.

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Quote from: sana54210 on July 10, 2021, 03:47:42 PM

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 09, 2021, 06:05:05 PM

Just like in the previous series, Giannis always owned the offense for the Bucks which is not actually good.

Lopez, Holiday and even his duo Middleton are missing in action. The rotation is just fine but I don't know what's the missing link.

Whatever it is, I'm expecting for them to make adjustments on Game 3, as it was really necessary to do so. Being down at 0-2 is really nothing to me but down by 0-3 is now a serious matter and almost closed from losing the series.

Bucks in 7 lol.

Could be Bucks in 6 if suddenly they will bring the energy back to Phoenix after winning 2 in Milwaukee.
I don't understand what is wrong too. They had been good when Giannis was not around at Hawks but when he is back and contributing for the team the team went bad again.
Is it Giannis or is it the other player of the Bucks? Perhaps we could answer this once they win games and it should not only be at home but at road too.

You know it is a sad situation when your superstar comes to team and ruins the chemistry. Don't get me wrong all of his teammates probably loves him, it is not his character because that is awesome and he is a very very likable guy.

What I am talking about is that when Giannis is not playing then jrue gets the ball, kris gets the ball, brook gets the ball, hell even pj tucker gets the ball and that is how they win which is a very good thing for a team but whenever Giannis is on the floor since he is the superstar and understandably he gets the ball the most and that ruins the fluid offense in everyone else. That is a bit of a problem, I feel like Coach Bud have seen Tim Duncan way too much so he should know that the star should not be required to get the ball at all times, just move the ball around like Spurs did when he was a coach there and they will win, if not then it is easy win for Suns.

That's why an adjustment is necessary, it's not Middleton or Holiday does not get the ball, if we look at their stats on game 2 loss.

Holiday has 21 attempts and made 7 only (33.33%)
Middleton has 16 attempts and made 5 only (31.25)

While Giannis gets 15-22 shooting which has an impressive percentage of shooting.

See, Giannis had the most attempt but he shoots 71.42% and that's a high percentage shot.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on July 10, 2021, 02:03:43 AM

Quote from: goinmerry on July 09, 2021, 06:05:05 PM

Just like in the previous series, Giannis always owned the offense for the Bucks which is not actually good.

Lopez, Holiday and even his duo Middleton are missing in action. The rotation is just fine but I don't know what's the missing link.

Whatever it is, I'm expecting for them to make adjustments on Game 3, as it was really necessary to do so. Being down at 0-2 is really nothing to me but down by 0-3 is now a serious matter and almost closed from losing the series.

Bucks in 7 lol.

Could be Bucks in 6 if suddenly they will bring the energy back to Phoenix after winning 2 in Milwaukee.
I don't understand what is wrong too. They had been good when Giannis was not around at Hawks but when he is back and contributing for the team the team went bad again.
Is it Giannis or is it the other player of the Bucks? Perhaps we could answer this once they win games and it should not only be at home but at road too.

You know it is a sad situation when your superstar comes to team and ruins the chemistry. Don't get me wrong all of his teammates probably loves him, it is not his character because that is awesome and he is a very very likable guy.

What I am talking about is that when Giannis is not playing then jrue gets the ball, kris gets the ball, brook gets the ball, hell even pj tucker gets the ball and that is how they win which is a very good thing for a team but whenever Giannis is on the floor since he is the superstar and understandably he gets the ball the most and that ruins the fluid offense in everyone else. That is a bit of a problem, I feel like Coach Bud have seen Tim Duncan way too much so he should know that the star should not be required to get the ball at all times, just move the ball around like Spurs did when he was a coach there and they will win, if not then it is easy win for Suns.

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Quote from: nelson4lov on July 10, 2021, 02:46:38 PM

Quote from: goinmerry on July 09, 2021, 06:05:05 PM

Just like in the previous series, Giannis always owned the offense for the Bucks which is not actually good.

Lopez, Holiday and even his duo Middleton are missing in action. The rotation is just fine but I don't know what's the missing link.

Whatever it is, I'm expecting for them to make adjustments on Game 3, as it was really necessary to do so. Being down at 0-2 is really nothing to me but down by 0-3 is now a serious matter and almost closed from losing the series.

Bucks in 7 lol.

If Holiday or Middleton were able to make at least half of Giannis points in game 2 individually, I'm sure they would have won the game considering it was a high scoring night from Giannis and only need more points from his teammates to boost the score. If you take a look at Suns total points in the first two games of the series, you will see they are doing just that. Bucks were able to close out Atlanta Hawks without Giannis. I'm confident that if they put the same level of energy with giannis on board, they'll do even better. Looking forward to game 3. Hoping things change. I would love to see a comeback. If anything, it would make the finals interesting.

If bucks win game 3, I'm looking for a blowout win so they will surely seal a win and will not allow the Suns to come back and make it a 3-0 series. Giannis just doing fine, he follows the play the coaching staff designed for him and he seemed unstoppable because the Suns are just allowing him and they are also making the shots they want. It's supposed to be a close game if they don't sleep on the Suns' offense in the 2nd quarter.

16-30 2nd quarter score in game 2, that's unacceptable for a team that wants to win.

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Quote from: goinmerry on July 09, 2021, 06:05:05 PM

Just like in the previous series, Giannis always owned the offense for the Bucks which is not actually good.

Lopez, Holiday and even his duo Middleton are missing in action. The rotation is just fine but I don't know what's the missing link.

Whatever it is, I'm expecting for them to make adjustments on Game 3, as it was really necessary to do so. Being down at 0-2 is really nothing to me but down by 0-3 is now a serious matter and almost closed from losing the series.

Bucks in 7 lol.

If Holiday or Middleton were able to make at least half of Giannis points in game 2 individually, I'm sure they would have won the game considering it was a high scoring night from Giannis and only need more points from his teammates to boost the score. If you take a look at Suns total points in the first two games of the series, you will see they are doing just that. Bucks were able to close out Atlanta Hawks without Giannis. I'm confident that if they put the same level of energy with giannis on board, they'll do even better. Looking forward to game 3. Hoping things change. I would love to see a comeback. If anything, it would make the finals interesting.

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Suns have started the final series very good. They won both of the first two games and made the series 2-0. Giannis was awesome and he was the player of the game. He scored 42 points and got 12 rebounds. And he had around 75% FG which was really decent. This could be the signal of Bucks coming strong for the next games. I think they have the power to equalize the series now. But Middleton and Holiday must play much better also.

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Quote from: Hypnosis00 on July 10, 2021, 08:47:13 AM

I'm counting on him in game 3, he should help Giannis win and I don't see Giannis will be slowed down in this game, he will continue to generate points, grab those rebounds and block shots, that's what he is, but he badly needs some help, otherwise, you know what's coming already.

I'll ready my broom.

We should know that Curry is the main man in his team while Middleton is only a supporting cast for Giannis. Maybe they don't have the same quality as Middleton has not won an MVP award yet but Curry had won already and is already a champion.

He may not have won such a prestigious award but he is an All-Star and those types of caliber players means a lot. He will not be picked as one if he ain't that good. I am betting he is being rattled again just like how he is with the Hawks. Do they really need Giannis to be injured again before they step up their game?
Anyway I will still bet for the Bucks and I think there will be changes when they witness how much support they have from the fans at home.

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Quote from: freedomgo on July 10, 2021, 08:25:43 AM

^^^
Love the analysis.
It was really Middleton who was not answering for every attack the Suns will make.
I don't think he lacks confidence but he just lost it. 5/16 shooting and 1/6 from the outside will make you doubt yourself.
But, that is not how a superstar does things. Steph Curry did shoot 0/10 before from the first half and will not even care and still end it with 15/30.
That's how stars are being trusted by their teammates and they won't care how bad your start is as long as you finish it strong.

We should know that Curry is the main man in his team while Middleton is only a supporting cast for Giannis. Maybe they don't have the same quality as Middleton has not won an MVP award yet but Curry had won already and is already a champion.

We can see the pattern, if the Bucks focus their offense more on Giannis, the ball movement will be limited, and his teammates are not getting good shots, and that is not good overall. Bucks have to adjust, everyone should be involved both offensively and defensive, in fact, I can see that the Bucks have the edge on the defensive end and they can make this game a low-scoring affair.

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^^^
Love the analysis.
It was really Middleton who was not answering for every attack the Suns will make.
I don't think he lacks confidence but he just lost it. 5/16 shooting and 1/6 from the outside will make you doubt yourself.
But, that is not how a superstar does things. Steph Curry did shoot 0/10 before from the first half and will not even care and still end it with 15/30.
That's how stars are being trusted by their teammates and they won't care how bad your start is as long as you finish it strong.

Middleton is like a machine, when he starts to heat up, he will be unstoppable, and what I noticed is that he has a high percentage of shooting when playing at home, maybe the court familiarity helps and the fans as well. I expect him to bounce back in game 3, put on a show especially his 3 point shooting.

I'm counting on him in game 3, he should help Giannis win and I don't see Giannis will be slowed down in this game, he will continue to generate points, grab those rebounds and block shots, that's what he is, but he badly needs some help, otherwise, you know what's coming already.

Same thinking here, he is the one who always closes out the game, one thing that is missing to Giannis is his killer's instinct, I watch some videos saying that Giannis doesn't have that, while Middleton always close games when Giannis is not performing well, for the team to come back and even the series Middleton role in the team is very important, we saw this in the two series where they have won.

That's why they lose in game 2 because Middleton had a bad shooting night, he seems not getting good looks that's why he was missing. We can also see that the Bucks's focus is to score inside that's why they get more fouls than the Suns who are more focused on their 3 point shooting. It's correct to go with their advantage but they can never allow the Suns to have a good look they have been shooting very well outside.

They need to work on their perimeter defense since if they will let this happen on game 3 then they will be eaten alive by the shooters of Suns. They also shouldn't focus to score inside since I believe that Sun already know how to counter their inside perimeter shooting so for the next game another big adjustment need to be done and if they cannot stop Suns from dominating then its a big shame for them to get sweep in the finals. But I don't think this will happen to Bucks.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 10, 2021, 06:46:10 AM

^^^
Love the analysis.
It was really Middleton who was not answering for every attack the Suns will make.
I don't think he lacks confidence but he just lost it. 5/16 shooting and 1/6 from the outside will make you doubt yourself.
But, that is not how a superstar does things. Steph Curry did shoot 0/10 before from the first half and will not even care and still end it with 15/30.
That's how stars are being trusted by their teammates and they won't care how bad your start is as long as you finish it strong.

Middleton is like a machine, when he starts to heat up, he will be unstoppable, and what I noticed is that he has a high percentage of shooting when playing at home, maybe the court familiarity helps and the fans as well. I expect him to bounce back in game 3, put on a show especially his 3 point shooting.

I'm counting on him in game 3, he should help Giannis win and I don't see Giannis will be slowed down in this game, he will continue to generate points, grab those rebounds and block shots, that's what he is, but he badly needs some help, otherwise, you know what's coming already.

Same thinking here, he is the one who always closes out the game, one thing that is missing to Giannis is his killer's instinct, I watch some videos saying that Giannis doesn't have that, while Middleton always close games when Giannis is not performing well, for the team to come back and even the series Middleton role in the team is very important, we saw this in the two series where they have won.

That's why they lose in game 2 because Middleton had a bad shooting night, he seems not getting good looks that's why he was missing. We can also see that the Bucks's focus is to score inside that's why they get more fouls than the Suns who are more focused on their 3 point shooting. It's correct to go with their advantage but they can never allow the Suns to have a good look they have been shooting very well outside.

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Quote from: Sanitough on July 10, 2021, 06:46:10 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on July 10, 2021, 06:46:10 AM

^^^
Love the analysis.
It was really Middleton who was not answering for every attack the Suns will make.
I don't think he lacks confidence but he just lost it. 5/16 shooting and 1/6 from the outside will make you doubt yourself.
But, that is not how a superstar does things. Steph Curry did shoot 0/10 before from the first half and will not even care and still end it with 15/30.
That's how stars are being trusted by their teammates and they won't care how bad your start is as long as you finish it strong.

Middleton is like a machine, when he starts to heat up, he will be unstoppable, and what I noticed is that he has a high percentage of shooting when playing at home, maybe the court familiarity helps and the fans as well. I expect him to bounce back in game 3, put on a show especially his 3 point shooting.

I'm counting on him in game 3, he should help Giannis win and I don't see Giannis will be slowed down in this game, he will continue to generate points, grab those rebounds and block shots, that's what he is, but he badly needs some help, otherwise, you know what's coming already.

Same thinking here, he is the one who always closes out the game, one thing that is missing to Giannis is his killer's instinct, I watch some videos saying that Giannis doesn't have that, while Middleton always close games when Giannis is not performing well, for the team to come back and even the series Middleton role in the team is very important, we saw this in the two series where they have won.

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^^^
Love the analysis.
It was really Middleton who was not answering for every attack the Suns will make.
I don't think he lacks confidence but he just lost it. 5/16 shooting and 1/6 from the outside will make you doubt yourself.
But, that is not how a superstar does things. Steph Curry did shoot 0/10 before from the first half and will not even care and still end it with 15/30.
That's how stars are being trusted by their teammates and they won't care how bad your start is as long as you finish it strong.

Middleton is like a machine, when he starts to heat up, he will be unstoppable, and what I noticed is that he has a high percentage of shooting when playing at home, maybe the court familiarity helps and the fans as well. I expect him to bounce back in game 3, put on a show especially his 3 point shooting.

I'm counting on him in game 3, he should help Giannis win and I don't see Giannis will be slowed down in this game, he will continue to generate points, grab those rebounds and block shots, that's what he is, but he badly needs some help, otherwise, you know what's coming already.

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