Topic: 2024 & Prediction of World War III - Effect on Cryptocurrencies (Read 1145 times)

China in its political activities is always guided by its economic interests, and the concept of friends in this regard is rather conditional for China. Therefore, Russia and Iran will be friends of China as long as it is beneficial to China itself. Considering that China's trade turnover with the European Union and the United States in 2022 amounted to $1.6 trillion - 8 times more than with Russia, and this balance generally continues to be maintained, China is not going to support Russia where this support could lead to a serious conflict with Europe and the USA.

Therefore, fearing secondary sanctions, large Chinese banks actually stopped accepting payments from Russia. Problems with transactions began at the end of 2023, when the US expanded its secondary sanctions mechanism. After this, Russian companies had difficulties with transfers to China in dollars, and at the beginning of 2024, Chinese banks began to block receipts in yuan. In January, transactions in Chinese currency were limited by PingAn Bank and Bank of Nongbo (the country's 13th and 15th banks by capitalization) and several other financial institutions. However, over time, the list of banks from China that refuse to accept payments in yuan from Russia has expanded.

In March, the largest Chinese bank ICBC, as well as China Citic Bank, Industrial Bank, Bank of Taizhou and Bank of China stopped processing most transfers from the Russian Federation.

Several large Chinese banks, including Bank of China (the fourth largest in terms of assets among Chinese banks) and Great Wall West China Bank, when accepting payments from Russia, began to request information about whether they are connected with the “LPR”, “DPR”, the occupied Russia Crimea, Iran, North Korea, Cuba and Syria or with the armed forces and defense industry of Russia. Chinese banks began requesting such information around the beginning of the year, even if the payment comes not from Russia, but from third countries. The payment currency does not affect the situation.

Some Chinese banks also face the threat of being disconnected from the global financial system for helping Russia circumvent sanctions, and they are unlikely to ignore this threat in order to maintain friendly relations with Russia.

Iran is the pioneer in this Modern Warfare and the basis of it was started in the early 1980's, so the Russia/Ukraine thing is not exactly "the first". For example the highly lauded multi-purpose Mohajer-6 (the name that was heard alongside Shahed-136) is a project started back in the 80's during the full scale invasion of Iran.
1980's vs today

Once upon a time Iran was in the position where Ukraine is today but without any country supporting it! In fact the quite opposite was true, meaning 82 countries were supporting the invaders (ie. Iraq) and at least 32 countries directly participated in it (Iran had taken prisoners of war from that many nationalities). That also includes an unprecedented coalition between US and USSR against Iran!!!
As they say "necessity is the mother of invention". That's exactly what Iranians did, they invented their very own method of Warfare that was cheap but most importantly it was highly effective.

40 years later the descendants of that silly looking drone have technologically advanced and are currently flying on top of the US aircraft carrier groups while extremely hard to detect, are locked and loaded ready to sink the entire US navy in a moments notice...

This Mohajer-6 flying over the Persian Gulf monitoring every movement of USS Eisenhower from a while ago:

it proves international law is useless to them. these wars wouldn't be happening if they could just decide to have cooler heads. but they know also that things will not be easy for them when a new world is established and find out they are not the leader. as for now, we are in a multipolar world afaik.

crazy how they teamed up with their enemy in the ww2 and made war with the countries that helped them in ww2.
but we are still up to see how the new leader will operate though, while China means business everywhere. Russia is somewhat of a military force to reckon with. and they could just be no different from the old leaders. hope to be wrong.

but all i know is that we could never have peace in a multipolar world. it will always end in a war when there are 2 alphas.

The experience of the current Russian-Ukrainian war has changed the idea of future technological wars. In attacking Ukraine, Russia relied on its large number of armored vehicles, aircraft and massive Black Sea fleet. Ukraine's air and surface drones, starting with a few Turkish Bayraktars, have dramatically changed the course of this war. The relatively cheap small drones have proven to be very effective against both armored vehicles and the Russian navy. Of course, a significant contribution to the change in tactics and strategy of military operations was made by Iranian cheap “Shahed-136,” which the Russian side is massively using against Ukraine. But not only the warring parties, but the whole world learns from this war. This, one might say, is the first big technological war, and militaries around the world are watching and learning from it.

One of the latest aid packages for Ukraine included American small reconnaissance drones, the Black Hornet, and others, which indeed turned out to be too expensive and ineffective. For example, for one Black Hornet package you can purchase over 20 Mavic 3 Fly More Combo drones, which are more often used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces.

The US military admitted that its defense companies were not engaged in mass production of cheap disposable drones, the effectiveness of which has been proven in Ukraine. They relied on expensive high-precision weapons, including air defense weapons, which were supposed to be used at first and then switched to less expensive ones. Therefore, they also quickly draw conclusions and this shortcoming will be eliminated in the near future. . But it can hardly be said that Iran now has more technologically advanced weapons compared to the United States.

Nah, Iran's economy is not going to be affected any more than it already has because of US sanctions because they are repetitive. That's what happens when US sanctions a nation for 45 years, they run out of things to sanction and it becomes ineffective.

I also have to point out the hypocrisy in this move by US since Israel is supported by US, Israel commits genocide and has already murdered at least 33000 innocent people 70% of which are women and children, it is Israel that breaks international laws such as article 2 of UN Charters, ... there is 0 US sanctions on Israel
But when Iran punishes Israel according to article 51 of UN charters, it is Iran that is sanctioned

BTW this is why the Old World Order died and we are currently establishing the New World Order.

I don't think so. The initial punishment on the night of April 13, created a panic sell but that was it. The recent market activities are natural and not related to any news. We see it during each halving month. It could also remain this way (going sideways) for a couple of weeks.

well, Iran is a rich country and it appears now that they have more friends than NATO thought. because of Russia and China so their economy might not be affected by the sanctions these days. same as Russia being sanctioned, they are still strong economically. in terms of their firepower, they are the source of Russia that made Russia have the upper hand against Ukraine.

what i notice is that these skirmishes and provocations are used to manipulate BTC price, you think?

As I've already said, the rest is mainstream media games.
What happened today is not even categorized as a "drone strike". What was used is something like the picture below, a toy that can be bought from a "toy shop". It has a very low range, so basically it was some idiot who was stupid enough to buy this toy from a toyshop and fly it into a restricted airspace and get it shot down which made some noise.


The only question is whether the idiot who did this was some brainwashed kids who was paid to fly this toy around not knowing what they were doing or a hired terrorist to make some noise so that the media games can happen. It will become clear when the culprit is arrested.

But let me complete my statement from earlier, the entire NATO coalition can not face Iran militarily but they will definitely activate their terrorist cells and Takfiri groups to try to "create chaos" and weaken Iran hoping they can do something in the middle of that chaos.
The US regime's proxy known as ISIS is going to be the most possible choice which has already been activated. But there are other smaller terrorist groups like the one hiding in Western Pakistan (South East Iranian border that both countries had to deal with) that was activated weeks ago and has already tried a couple of terrorist attacks.
Color revolutions are their go to as well, although they haven't worked in the past 45 years that they've tried.

War is not fought with numbers, it is fought with firepower and technological superiority.

But if you love numbers so much lets put that $700 billion into perspective.
The Operation Truthful Promise lasted 4 hours and it cost NATO roughly $4 billion in ammunitions alone to defend against this small punishment (not counting the damage to the 6 or 7 bases that were demolished, aircraft that was lost, etc.). That is $1 billion an hour to defend against the smallest number of the lowest tier of Iranian projectiles launched with a 10 day warning and time for preparation.
That means if the entire $700 billion were spent on defense, and Iran only used teeny tiny number of its lowest tier of ammunitions that would buy US regime 700 hours of not even surviving (since majority of the projectiles went through). That is only 29 days.
This cost Iran $2 million tops

In an actual war it won't be some outdated technology at low numbers like 50 Shahed-136 and 30 Emad missiles and a handful of Paveh cruise missiles. These are jokes in Iran's highly advanced arsenal. For example Paveh is a subsonic toy used for tests in parades or Shahed-136 is an ancient tech that is too old Iran only sells it to other countries.
In a real war what will be used would be 50000 stealth Simourghs, multi-purpose Karrars, bomber Gazas, Arash loitering munitions etc. + 11000 Kheybars, Fattah and Fattah-2 raining down every day for months. That $700 billion would evaporate in matter of minutes...

BTW for comparison in the Russian NATO war the both sides combined used about 12k missiles and less than 10k drones in 3 years (that is 10 missile/day).

If you think you can know what Iran has and how much by using Google, then you are sillier than I thought

After Iran for the first time openly and massively attacked Israeli territory on the night of April 14, it was foolish to expect that the conflict would not continue and Israel would not strike back.
This night, the Israeli army launched a drone strike on Iran. Iran's air defense systems were activated after three explosions were heard near a large military air base near the city of Isfahan. According to the Iranian FARS agency, fighter jets are there. There were also explosions in the sky over Tabriz. A spokesman for Iran's National Cyberspace Center said air defenses intercepted three drones and there were no reports of a missile attack. However, Iran did not name the source of the strike.

Your statement that the entire NATO coalition will not be able to resist Iran, either economically or in terms of firepower, sounds like a joke. Iran's armed forces are the eighth largest in the world, and Iran's defense budget in 2018 was only $13 billion, making the country the 18th largest military spender in the world. For comparison: the US defense budget alone is more than $700 billion. Iran has a ballistic missile program, but no long-range missiles capable of hitting the United States.

Iran has 509 aircraft and lags far behind - both in quantity and quality of air force - even from regional adversaries such as Saudi Arabia and Israel. These countries have 848 and 595 of the latest aircraft, respectively. The basis of the Iranian Air Force is the American F-4, F-5 and F-14 fighters created in the 1970s.

Tehran's fleet consists of six frigates, three corvettes, 34 submarines and 88 patrol ships. The submarine arsenal includes Soviet/Russian Kilo-class submarines.

Iran has about 1,634 tanks in service, but these are mostly old vehicles and completely outdated models.
https://www.svoboda.org/a/30371428.html

Even if Iran unites with the rest of the axis of evil - Russia, China and North Korea, they are unlikely to withstand the military might of NATO countries.

Let us only hope it won't be a nuclear one if ever there will be a war again because its effects are more brutal but a normal type of war might still affect the price of BTC negatively because people will worry and they can panic sell. You also said that banks are unavailable, so BTC is only the medium that people will use to buy their needs. This is one of the good thing of BTC or decentralization because nothing can stop them. Whenever there is a war, usually there are two countries are involved but some wars can work in party. Anyway, what we are talking about here is world war which could mean that countries all over the world are involved.

There was no war to enter. This was just one small and short operation of Punishment.
Besides, NATO countries have always only "enter" an armed conflict when the other side is either an unarmed or disarmed/weak country like the case with Afghanistan and Iraq respectively.

Otherwise in the face of a super power at Iran's level they will not dare to even think about getting in the way. Even less so after the show of strength and fire power superiority on April 13 when Iran used the oldest and lowest tier ammunitions in its vast and technologically advanced stash for a small "punishment attack" for about 4 hours and against the entire NATO's and Israel's most advanced defense systems, navies, air-forces and radars with the help of some Arab dictators such as Jordan and Saudi usurped Arabia.
The result was complete demolishing of 6-7 bases and it costed NATO $1 billion per hour trying to defend and failing to do so.

Bottom line is neither economically nor fire-power-wise the entire NATO coalition can not face Iran.
In other words, the tensions evaporated after Iran punished the illegitimate Zionist occupiers of Palestine on April 13. The rest is just mainstream media games.

In war conditions, bitcoin will become one of the assets that many investors are looking for because bitcoin's current status can be said to be a safe asset (safe haven). Throughout this decade, bitcoin has been recorded as strengthening and even this year bitcoin has reached a new ATH even though the world economy is currently unstable with Russia's war against Ukraine, Israel against Palestine and most recently Iran starting to attack Isreal.

Judging from history shows that bitcoin tends to strengthen during war. Likewise with gold, if there is a war the price will rise. So for me, if a third world war occurs, Bitcoin and gold will be even stronger, of course these two assets will not be affected even if there is a war.

There is no point in talking about the betrayal of Ukraine by the United States. There is the usual political struggle for the presidency between Trump and Biden. It was beneficial for Trump to sabotage arms supplies to Ukraine for some time in order to undermine the authority and trust in the current president during the election campaign. But Trump realized that delaying aid to Ukraine for too long could lead to him being accused of betraying US national interests, and after consultations between the Speaker of the House of Representatives Johnson and Trump, the situation moved from a dead point. Johnson has already announced that on Saturday, April 20, an aid package to Ukraine worth approximately $60 billion will be put to a vote and Biden has already announced that he will sign it.

I am afraid that the current developments do not seem healthy and that's the reason we are seeing the whole crypto market in a selling pressure at the moment. The tension between Iran and Israel is not coming to an end and it seems that in the coming days we may see further developments and escalations that may be even more dangerous for the peace of the world.



If these statements are true, then believe me other countries will enter this war and this time it will be not a simple world war but a nuclear world War that will have far more long lasting severe effects on the world.  

Just imagine if the ammunition that was sent to the Zionists to murder the 15000 children had been sent to Ukraine to defend instead...
It's safe to say that the "boss" betrayed Ukraine and the Zionists terrorists were more important to them than Ukraine...

The mere fact that they've made this funny and obviously fake claim should be enough to not want any kind of assistance from them

It was easily debunked too. From their own statements and the large number of video proof that came out ever since the Day of Punishment.
For example they've already admitted that the Nevatim Airbase was demolished by at least 9 missiles. Just do some quick math and see 1% (the number they stupidly claim was not intercepted) with 9 means.... hint they also claimed Iran launched 300 projectiles (150 missiles + drones) LOL

I made an amateur complication of a handful of the videos a couple of days ago. Watching the full videos of each of these examples proves that at best they intercepted somewhere between 1% to 10% (at best) of the incoming projectiles and the rest landed successfully demolishing their designated targets.

Two example videos:
https://www.aparat.com/v/QehkR
https://www.aparat.com/v/16WzS

Yes, it is worth recognizing that in Ukraine there is now a problem with weapons to protect against Russian missiles. When a few days ago Russia launched 11 cruise missiles at one of the largest thermal power plants in Ukraine, Trypillya, the Ukrainian Armed Forces shot down seven of them. The remaining missiles hit the TEC, because in this direction the air defense had no ammunition left to shoot down these missiles. Putin’s horde takes advantage of this opportunity and, despite colossal losses, storms the Ukrainian Armed Forces along the entire front.

Ukraine does not threaten the United States that it will attack Russian oil refineries. The political leadership of Ukraine stated in response to requests from the United States not to do this that this is one of the most effective ways to stop the military invasion of the Russian army, and therefore these factories will continue to burn in Russia. After all, Ukraine does this with its own drones, but their flying power is much inferior to the power of Russian missiles.

Yes, the US, UK, France and other countries directly helped repel Iran's most massive missile and drone attack on Israel. It was revealed that 99 percent of air targets launched by Iran were shot down. Ukrainians are outraged that they do not receive such assistance from their partners. Let's see how events will develop further.

Speaking of Ukraine fighting for US, these days as the ammunition deployment (specially defensive missiles for Patriot, etc.) has come to an almost halt, the Ukrainian officials are threatening US regime that if the shipments don't come they'll attack Russian refineries

BTW did you see how NATO deployed its entire defensive forces, air force, navy destroyers, etc. to defend the illegitimate Zionist regime occupying Palestine a couple of days ago to lessen the impact of the punishment of the regime? And how they're not doing anything like that for Ukraine?...

Ukraine  did not start a war with Russia. It is Russia that attacked Ukraine and wants to destroy it as a state and kill more Ukrainians. Therefore, when defending themselves, Ukrainians primarily pursue their own interests, and not the interests of the United States or any other state. But it is in the interests of the United States and other democratic states to provide assistance to Ukraine and prevent Russia and other authoritarian states from acting according to the rule of might, neglecting the previously established rules of peaceful coexistence between states.

The topic periodically comes up that members of the US Congress or other US politicians express the idea of “fighting Russia to the last Ukrainian” and I have previously refuted this lie. So I’ll repeat it again. No Western official has ever said anything like this. The first time the phrase “wars to the last Ukrainian” was used was in a column by former American politician Ron Paul, published on his own website on March 14, 2022. But Paul did not hold any public office for almost 10 years. A similar statement was made in an article for the information portal The Gray Zone by retired American diplomat Chas Freeman, who is not a US official and expressed only his personal opinion.

The only current official who spoke about the West’s readiness to fight to the last Ukrainian was Putin. “Ukraine’s mobilization reserve is not unlimited. It seems that Western countries are ready to fight to the last Ukrainian,” Putin once said.
https://news.obozrevatel.com/russia/do-poslednego-ukraintsa-putin-sdelal-tsinichnoe-zayavlenie-o-vojne-obviniv-vo-vsem-zapad.htm

Therefore, when talking about current politicians, you can directly point out that only Putin said such things. It is very profitable for the Kremlin and other Russian propagandists to inflate the topic of war to the last Ukrainian. After all, this seems to indicate the futility of Ukrainian resistance, and this is what they are trying to achieve. After all, in the third year of the war, Russia is reaching a dead end, unable to end it by military means.

It's a sad scene to watch a nation start a war for US interests and then wait for help to come from US while US politicians use that desperation for their own political games!!! Specially after the same politicians have said on multiple occasions that they'd happily "fight Russia to the last Ukrainian"!!!

The IDF genocide has not ended, they are actively murdering dozens to hundreds of civilians per day. The only reason why the Israeli terrorists fled Khan Yunis is because their casualties were piling on in that region and this particular branch of this terrorist organization has lost the most number of its troops. They are too tired and weak to be able to hold the occupied neighborhood specially since over the past month or two the Palestinian snipers have been picking off their officers one by one, that means these "divisions" and "brigades", etc. are left headless.

They needed to pull back, regroup, rank up some other Israeli terrorist soldiers to command their invading forces then restart the attack and continue the genocide.
They're also planning on attacking Rafah because it has a much bigger population concentration at this point and the Israeli terrorists can kill a much larger number of civilians including children with each attack compared to other regions.
But they need to prepare for that attack first. Hence the pull back.

That brigade of terrorists got shelled a couple of nights ago, not much is left of it.

LOL
Are these aid deliveries going to reach buildings and ruins if they're not allowing people to go back to their homes in the north?

If you check the direct line of wide wing planes and shipments in the sea that are being sent to occupied Palestinian territories to be used by this terrorist organization you'll realize how both necessary and mandatory those weapons and supplies are.

As I said before, I don't see that situation changing any time soon.
There is also the fact that the head of this terrorist organization Netanyahu is desperate to remain in power and for that he needs to prolong the war. He is also desperately trying to start a new theatre of war in a different geography outside the occupied Palestine, mostly he tries to start it in the North with Lebanon even though he knows the massive strength of the Lebanese Resistance/Armed Forces known as Hezbollah hash at its disposal.
If he manages to start that (ie. to for example start a land invasion of Lebanon) you can say goodbye to that little ammunition that were reaching Ukraine in the past 7 months as well.

In a few months, the situation at the front should change for the better for the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Republicans in the US House of Representatives cannot forever delay a vote on providing the necessary amount of military assistance to Ukraine. At the same time, European countries are maximizing the utilization of their defense enterprises to provide their products to Ukraine. The capacity of defense plants in Ukraine itself is also increasing. At the same time, Russia has already transferred its economy to the needs of this big war and not only will it not be able to increase its capacity, but it will also not be able to hold out for long at the current pace of weapons production due to the imposed sanctions, which only continue to intensify.

On the other hand, on April 7, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) announced that it had completed the active invasion phase of the war and had withdrawn the entire 98th Division from the city of Khan Yunis in southern Gaza, leaving only one Israeli army brigade there to provide security. corridor connecting southern Israel with the coast of the Gaza Strip. This corridor allows the IDF to carry out raids in northern and central Gaza, prevents Palestinians from returning to the northern part of the Strip, and allows humanitarian organizations to deliver aid directly to northern Gaza.
Thus, US assistance to Israel may be significantly reduced as it is unnecessary.

Therefore, the Kremlin is thinking about where else it is possible to kindle the flames of war - in Central Asia, the Baltic countries or somewhere else in order to divert the assistance provided to Ukraine.

That could be the worst case scenario in a war, each countries using their nuclear weapon and it will be bad for us.


And that's what happen to WWII isn't it, but what will be the hedge during that time? It's the old and reliable, Gold. So the question is, can Bitcoin be the digital Gold that we all have been touting about? And it could be the savior for us, hedge after the war? So I guess there will effect on crypto whether negative or positive.

Hopefully, we don't want to see this kind of scenario happening in our lifetime.

You have to be blind not to see this. And I'm not talking about Russia's neighbors only. What about Venezuela? Also Russia's neighbor? Iraq? Syria? All Russia's neighbors?   Btw, just to prove I'm right:  riots starting in Budapest, Hungary. Coincidence? I don't think so! Victor Orban is well-known for supporting Russia. Remember what happened in Belarus? Latest events in Hungary are a carbon copy of what happened there. Next target Slovakia?  

Yes, these are exactly thoughts of a US sockpuppet Sandu, not the people of Moldova.


OMG, you crazy Ukrainian troll going full retard and starting to threaten to attack your neighbor states?   Luckily, this is not going to happen.

Not going to comment on a propaganda article from a .ua website.

Since the beginning of 2024, I no longer know much about the conflict that is going on, especially between Russia and Ukraine, even the media now seems to no longer report on it or indeed I don't look for it myself. Based on your very detailed narrative regarding the struggle for territory that Russia continues to control every day, it makes me wonder why Ukraine is still resisting. This means that instead of having to sacrifice many soldiers and civilians who had to be trained to fight, from the start Russia offered to solve this problem by taking up arms. My knowledge is minimal regarding the conflict between Russia and Ukraine, what I am saying is based on the views of ordinary people who see how bad it would be if many lives were sacrificed, and in any aspect Russia is clearly superior. As a result of this impact, the economies of each region, especially war zone areas which were previously fine, now have to accept the consequences of conflict which are increasingly unclear.

As for the impact on crypto, because the OP involves these variables, the long-term impact is not yet visible. Crypto market volatility is still healthy, in fact many crypto projects from these two countries also exist in the crypto market industry, which shows that the influence of this war is only focused on currency values and rising prices of basic commodities.

If what happens is not a nuclear war, then the price of Bitcoin will increase rapidly. IMO
When there is a war in which no more than 6 countries participate, inflation is a very big risk, especially since the government blocks access to all banks in that country, so fiat currency will lose its value. People affected by war certainly need food and shelter, Bitcoin is one of the most perfect alternatives for saving money.
Bitcoin will survive even though the war lasts a long time, its influence is still strong as an economic force when the function of fiat starts to stall.

FTFY.
Well the situation is not as simple as that. ISIS was a CIA project and was created by the US regime (not destroyed by them). Just like Al-Qaeda, the regime uses these radicals for its own operations as a proxy. Sometimes they are directly hired, sometimes just "nudged" in the right direction that benefits the regime.
ISIS did exist and today they still continue to exist but not in their former strength as a fake "state" controlling half of Syria and Iraq. Instead they exist as a form of radical ideology that is very hard to eradicate and in smaller groups in somewhat controlled and monitored regions (regions where usually a US military base is nearby!).

Every now and then the US regime organizes some of these radicals and creates a new group to let lose on the world and mainly in the region to create chaos and use that chaos as an excuse to "make money" be it by invasion, by selling "security" to tiny artificial dictatorships like the Arab regimes around the southern shores of the Persian Gulf, be it by selling weapons, by invasion and stealing resources, etc...

Why do you think Biden went nuts after the US military secret facility in northern Jordan (across Syrian border) was attacked on January this year? It definitely wasn't because of the handful of casualties since the 200+ attacks on US bases to that point had higher casualties and he never even talked about them. It was because this particular facility was used for training ISIS terrorists and those who were eliminated in the attack were the high ranking US officers/operatives responsible for their training.

Oh, don't be so naïve! We all know ISIS ceased to exist - it was destroyed by the US. Right now it's being used as sort of a brand name for CIA operations. I'm not even sure ISIS existed at all. Chances are it was artificially created by the CIA to justify US attacks on Iran and Afghanistan.   

Distance is not a factor in terrorist attacks; besides this particular branch of this terrorist organization operates mainly in Central Asia which is across the southern borders of Russia. So it is not far away. The nationality of the 4 terrorists arrested were Tajik too which shows from where they came from.

The fact that they flew in from Turkey is another indication of this terrorist organization being behind this attack (majority of terrorist attacks from Takfiri groups is from terrorists flying in from Turkey!).

Last but not least, ISIS-k claimed responsibility for the attack shortly after the attack.

ISIS-K is really the one who attacks the Crocus City Hall?  i'm not really sure to believe that. all of a sudden those guys are mortal enemies of the West suddenly just lose volts and then attack Russia which is far away from them.

i couldn't see how things are going with all the wars in every corner of the globe, my country seem to be joining as well but this time, the West is targeting China vs my country. i guess Bitcoin and all major cryptocurrencies will not be adopted during a world chaos except memecoins. it's the only the poor men can afford when wars break out.

Could you explain why?
The biggest reason for this particular problem is that the weapons meant for Ukrainian defense is being sent to the Zionists to be used to commit genocide in Palestine. I don't see how that situation is changing considering the terrorist organization those weapons are being given to is not stopping as it sees itself at the end of the line.

I can't comment on other situations but Armenia is all Russia's fault. The power vacuum Russia created in Caucasus, lack of cooperation with Iran and of course the increasing threat of the usurper Aliyev in Baku, and some other problems has left Armenia with little choices and of course the "journalist" in Yerevan is making the worst ones as the head of the Armenian government!

Out of desperation he is hoping the colonizers can put a leash on Turks that plan on wiping out Armenia from maps.
But of course the colonizers don't help anyone, they just colonize and use you...

But overall I agree that they are the latest CIA projects, we're going to see some messed up situation in Caucasus and Central Asia in the near future.
In fact this is why we suddenly see this new US proxy called ISIS-K appearing and already having committed terrorist attacks inside multiple countries in the region (eg. Crocus City Hall, Russia).

Russia is not going to be able to fight Ukraine, Kazakhstan, Armenia, Finland, all three Baltic countries on their west border, Georgia, Moldova and all these former soviet republics together. Actually Putin would be thrown out of the Kremlin before that happens.

All those crazy people hyping up another Russian invasion need a reality check. With the amount of soldiers being committed to Ukraine alone, they cannot handle another conflict, let alone so many others.

Seeing how Ukraine is now bleeding from the “brotherly” embrace of Russia, any adequate neighbors are trying to get rid of their “big brother” and at the same time a very intrusive ally - Russia. This is the usual logic of all normal people. Therefore, referring to some mythical CIA projects in all In cases where Russia does not like some political processes in neighboring states, it is not worth it.

Russia would have captured Moldova long ago if Ukraine had not been located territorially between them. Moldova understands this very well. Therefore, it is also logical that Moldova is now looking for allies and defenders. When choosing between Russia and Romania, Moldova, of course, will give preference to civilized Romania over barbaric Russia. But the whole question of the security of states neighboring Russia now rests on Ukraine’s resistance to the onslaught of the Russian horde. Ukraine will survive and the security of states in this region will strengthen.

The streak of difficulties with arms supplies to Ukraine should end in a few months. And then everything will be fine. As soon as Ukraine fights off Russia, it will be able to solve the problem of the Russian enclave of Transnistria very quickly, within a few days. For this purpose, Moldova’s consent to Ukraine’s conduct of the corresponding special operation in Transnistria will be sufficient.

By the way, according to OSINT analysts, as of April 5, the situation in the Avdeevsky direction demonstrates catastrophic losses for the Russian army. The visually confirmed number of destroyed equipment of the Russian Armed Forces reached 984 units. This is only the part that was confirmed by video and photos: the actual losses are even higher.

During the same period of time, the Ukrainian army lost 152 units of military equipment. This creates a dismal Russian casualty ratio of 6 to 1 in favor of the Ukrainian military. In exchange for the victims of the meat assaults, Russia receives only patches of scorched earth and burnt ruins. At this rate, the Russian army will be erased faster than even border Kharkov can be captured, and the occupiers will definitely not see Kyiv.

https://www.dialog.ua/war/292876_1712569630/amp

Perhaps you don't realize it yet, but Ukraine has already lost this war. In hindsight, key events of this war so far were the battles of Bakhmut and Avdiivka. Ukraine lost so many troops trying to prevent Russia from capturing these cities that it's ability to fight on is greatly endangered. Ukraine needs at least 5000000 new recruits and at least half a year to train them, the time Ukraine doesn't have. Even if they will be able to recruit 500k people, this will ruin Ukraine both demographically and economically and it will de-facto cease to exist.

And the failure you mentioned, I don't see it frankly: Russia is moving slowly but steadily, pushing AFU further west. Russians are capturing a small town or two almost every day after the fall of Avdiivka. They have now reached a town of Chasiv Yar, fighting is going on in the streets right now. Realistically, Russians are going to capture it in like days, because AFU don't have resources to defend the city. They even have issues to defend bigger and more strategically important cities like Kharkiv, Slavyansk and Kramatorsk. In Kharkiv, there is no internet, electricity, water. People are leaving en masse, many are trying to relocate to Dnipro. Real estate prices plummeted.

Regarding Kazakhstan, you're right in a way. Kazakhstan, Moldova and Armenia are the latest CIA projects and these countries are actively severing their ties with Russia now. Moldova is rumoured to be annexed by Romania soon, perhaps except two regions: Transnitria and Gagauz. So yeah, things are getting interesting.   

For the third year now, Russia has been attacking Ukraine with all military means (except nuclear), but has not achieved its goals. Because of this, the international authority of Russia and Putin himself has been greatly shaken, and the Kremlin is looking for a way out of this difficult situation. After all, it was originally planned to capture Ukraine in a few days. Now Putin’s efforts are aimed at weakening assistance from other states to Ukraine and waiting for Trump to come to power in the United States. But if the situation does not change in Russia's favor, Putin will be forced to start other wars to divert the attention of his citizens from the failures in Ukraine.

Apparently, such preparations are already underway in parallel. One eloquent fact testifies to the preparation for war with neighboring countries. When Russia started a war against Ukraine, Vladimir Putin signed a special decree according to which Ukrainian citizens could receive Russian citizenship through a simplified procedure. And last December, he signed a similar decree regarding citizens of Kazakhstan and Moldova.

Kazakhstan is now almost openly moving away from Russia, and the Kremlin really doesn’t like this. Therefore, just as at one time, before the attack on Ukraine, Putin stated that Ukraine is an artificially created state and that such a nation as the Ukrainians does not exist, the same thing is now being announced in relation to Kazakhstan. In addition, as in the case of Ukraine, Russia also has claims to the northern territories of Kazakhstan, which were allegedly previously donated by Russia and where ethnic Russians live who will need to be protected.

If Russia does not attack the Baltic countries to measure strength with NATO countries, then an attack on Kazakhstan could lead to a covert or overt war with Turkey. After all, Kazakhstan and Turkey belong to the Turkic peoples and relations between them have recently been growing, including in military terms. The world is really on the threshold of the Third World War and there are a lot of options for starting it now, more than ever.

You have to be pretty dumb to think a world war will only have 6 countries involved, or that there were only 6 countries involved in the previous world wars. Leaving that aside, if it somehow did start then it will most likely escalate to the point of using nuclear weapons eventually, but in the meantime all stock markets would crash and crypto would also become worthless. Internet connectivity would most likely be targeted and severed, making crypto pretty much useless compared to how useful it is now. It will eventually drag pretty much every country into the war, depending on how long it lasts, because any country that does not pick a side will likely be treated badly by either of the aggressor groups.

Indeed, everyone also recognizes the advantages of crypto, which will not be disturbed or disturbed by whatever circumstances occur in any part of the world. As long as there are still people who can carry out their normal activities, then crypto can still run well.
But if it leads to a war on a large scale such as a world war, where all countries are involved and infrastructure is disrupted and activities can no longer be carried out calmly, then it is certain that there will be an indirect impact on crypto. If the infrastructure has collapsed, it is certain that the need that must be used is an internet network. If it is not available, then it is certain that the movement or circulation of crypto cannot run.
Therefore, avoid this so that there is no world war whose escalation will clearly affect everyone, crypto will no longer be of any use.

Mass murderers and psychopaths always justify their criminal acts one way or the other. If you ever asked Ted Bundy why he murdered all those people he would justify it somehow without accepting that he was a serial killer.

This is funny since his own Chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff compared him with Hitler and the Nazi regime, expressing his concern by describing it as being worried Trump will pull a "Reichstag Moment". This is before he effectively stripped Trump of all his powers as the commander in chief.

I agree with your opinion. While cryptocurrencies possess a degree of decentralization, they are still fundamentally connected to the real-world economy. The investors, traders, and infrastructure supporting crypto exist within the traditional economic landscape. Economic turmoil, job losses, and lack of basic necessities – all of which can result from war –  severely impact people's ability and willingness to engage with cryptocurrency, consequently affecting the overall market.

Large-scale wars, and especially a potential world war, would inflict immense economic distress. Physical infrastructure damage, trade route blockades, and supply chain interruptions lead to a cascade of economic woes. This would fundamentally alter how money flows, potentially reducing access to exchanges and impacting the value of currencies used to buy and sell crypto.

Therefore, the conclusion is that a major war, especially a large-scale or world war, will likely have severe negative consequences for cryptocurrencies. The value of these assets could drop significantly.

First of all, I'd like to set the record that nobody agreed on shit lol, if anything a lot of us here are in agreement that should a full-blown world war were to happen, it's going to be a full military-centered conflict with chances of these people sending nukes against each other cause let me just remind you that the only thing that's stopping these people from nuking each other is a big shiny red button, and a piece of paper saying they shouldn't and they can't send nukes against them.

Now going back, if a war were to happen, and if it were to be of global scale we might get cut off from internet access, and in turn, our access to cryptocurrencies are good as done. Demand for crypto would die down, and until the war is over, we might not have use for it whatsoever. Unless we invent a new way to transact with cryptocurrencies without having to use the internet. If this is made possible then this might become the de facto currency during the war, which would in turn, increase demand and love for crypto.

When the US military attacks a country , they will call it punishing criminals , punishing terrorists, bringing  peace to the world and being the world's only messenger of peace . But when a country that is not an ally of the United States has a conflict or war related to national interests, it will be called an invader, a terrorist , and must be destroyed. The conflicts and wars that killed millions of people in Japan, Vietnam, and Iraq caused by the US were all wars against evil  .

According to the official version, the United States bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki because the Japanese were fanatics and would not capitulate, and the only way to end the war without the entry of American troops was an atomic bombing. The alternative could have been an American invasion. President Truman wrote in his memoirs that this would have cost half a million American lives, and then he noted that it would also have resulted in the deaths of millions of Japanese. Thus, according to the official explanation, the bombing was not only justified, it was actually also humane because it saved so many lives.

  Until now, the United States has not only not been punished, but has not even apologized for the murder of Japanese civilians.

Donald Trump, while still President of the United States, said that it was thanks to this program that World War II ended and an “unprecedented era of global stability” began.

US President Barack Obama and his administration, who visited the Hiroshima Peace Memorial in 2016, said that there would be no apology for the nuclear strike in 1945. First of all, because Japan was the first to attack the United States when it attacked Pearl Harbor in Hawaii on December 7, 1941, where the US Pacific Fleet was stationed and where 2.4 thousand Americans died.
The mayor of Hiroshima, Tomihisa Taue, when he conveyed an invitation to Obama to visit the Memorial, said: they say, the very fact that the American leader will visit a city that suffered from the American atomic bombing is important.
https://rg.ru/2016/05/24/pochemu-ssha-ne-izviniaiutsia-za-atomnye-bombardirovki-iaponii.html

Advice to an aggressor: Don't attack others and you won't have to mourn the death of your loved ones. No one knows what kind of weapon may appear in the hands of the one you have taken as your victim.
Before the attack on Ukraine, Russia threatened everything with its Black Sea Fleet, which was bulky and intimidating in sight. Now its remnants are hiding away from the shores of Ukraine, fearing the spread of Ukrainian-made drones.
I hope I have satisfied your curiosity. This will make the popcorn even tastier.

Albert Einstein said it best, " I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

So, if WWIII  destroy the world with Nukes, Bitcoin will not be the focus of the people that has to survive such a hostile and damaged planet. 

Oh, cool, now could you answer me: was any US official prosecuted for this act? Any international court orders issued to arrest president Truman? Were there any sanctions imposed on the US by the international community? Were US sportsmen banned from international competitions?

Check and mate, Bozo! Now I'll go get some popcorn and waiting for your answer which will be quite entertaining I suspect.... 

I agree that from a military point of view there was no need for the US to drop nuclear bombs on the peaceful Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 and that these were, in fact, US war crimes.

In the current situation, Putin’s Russia, although they declare that they are open to negotiations with Ukraine, however, the precondition for negotiations is the consent of Ukraine to the fact that the occupied territories of Ukraine remain with Russia, and this is unacceptable for Ukraine and for the entire civilized world. More and more states are being drawn into this bloody and brutal war, and therefore the threat of World War III is growing rapidly.

We are talking about war crime committed by the US regime and the lack of justification for it, not what could have happened between USSR and Japan. As for any battles that took place between the two timeframes, that's due to lack of negotiations which is the only reason why any wars stop. US regime wanted to test its nukes somewhere which is why they refused to negotiate peace with Japan so Japanese kept fighting a little longer than they wanted to.

To stop the war in Ukraine, Russia does not have to drop a nuclear bomb on its territory.  To do this, it is only necessary to withdraw Russian troops from the territory of Ukraine.  In addition, it must be taken into account that any use of nuclear weapons in Ukraine will have a negative impact on the environment and people both in Russia itself and in European countries.  And this will actually mean an attack on NATO countries.

No one here approves of the use of nuclear weapons against peaceful cities for any purpose and under any circumstances. The nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945 was most likely a political step for the United States to demonstrate the capabilities of new nuclear weapons and an experiment to study their consequences of use in war conditions.

In the current conditions, Russia itself attacked the neighboring state of Ukraine, and so that no one would stop it from destroying Ukraine and destroying its population, it is trying to threaten and blackmail the whole world with the use of nuclear weapons. This is blasphemous and has no justification from any point of view, and also carries a direct and obvious threat of starting World War III.

Despite all of this, from a humanitarian perspective, is this a justification for dropping two nuclear bombs on two Japanese cities containing hundreds of thousands of civilians and killing about 200,000 people to stop the war?

Likewise, compared to the current situation, does Ukraine’s continued resistance against Russia represent a justification for dropping a Russian nuclear bomb on Ukrainian cities to stop the war?

This is unacceptable from a humanitarian perspective, even in the most horrific and longest wars. From my personal point of view, there is no justification for dropping a nuclear bomb on any enemy.

Do you want to say that after the surrender of Germany in May 1945, the million-strong Kwantung Army of Japan, which was an ally of Germany and was armed with over 1.2 thousand tanks, more than 6.6 thousand guns, 1.9 thousand aircraft, over 30 combat ships and boats did not pose a threat to the eastern borders of the USSR at all? In fierce battles throughout August 1945, the irretrievable losses of Soviet troops amounted to 12 thousand people, medical losses - 24.4 thousand. Was this damage caused by those who were unable to resist? Why then didn’t Japan capitulate earlier than September 2 and fought stubborn battles with Soviet troops for almost a month? In a national radio address, Emperor Hirohito announced surrender to the Japanese people on August 15, but the Japanese army continued to offer serious resistance for a long time.

I'm not sure how to respond when your source is Wikipedia!!!

If you got the time, study the history of this period from a military standpoint (in books and other "reliable" sources, not Wikipedia) you can clearly see that there is enough evidence (even in the history written by the "victor") that Japan had already been defeated. For example Japan (which is an island in case you don't know) had its entire navy destroyed by the end of 1944 and 1945 started with the Allies having almost full control of all the seas around Japan.
Same with Japanese air-force that had been almost entirely destroyed.

To put simply, they didn't even have the capability to exit their own soil let alone continue fighting.

There are a lot of other evidence that clearly shows their total defeat way before the US regime committed mass murder in Japan by using not one but two Weapons of Mass Destruction.

Are you ready for the last nail in the coffin?
In the book Atomic Diplomacy by Gar Alperovitz (an American historian and writer in a book that is listed on the Office of the Historian which is a US government official department under the department of state) Alperovitz explains how Japan had already accepted defeat and had started peace envoy missions back in September 1944.
He doesn't stop there. There's more. He explains how the US regime knew the Japanese were defeated, wanted to surrender and negotiate peace so there was no need for any kind of invasion let alone dropping two nukes murdering over two hundred thousand civilians.

Well, also a "short version", where a big period fell out, and a very important moment: on September 17, 1939, the USSR invaded Poland and soon seized the entire east of the country. By the end of September any resistance was crushed and Poland was divided between the Soviet Union and the Third Reich - to the horror of the entire world community.

After that, Germany and the USSR organized several more attacks on other European countries. This "brotherhood of Nazis" existed up to June 22, 1941, when Germany and the USSR had a small disagreement. On Germany's side, Hitler wanted to settle things peacefully. But the Soviets did not want to solve peacefully, played games and forced Hitler to launch a preemptive strike against the USSR! It was essentially self-defense of Germany.
And about peaceful initiatives of Germany in relation to the USSR, speaks the fact that on May 1, 1941, Germany together with the USSR held a parade of fraternal peoples, the Labor Communist Party of the USSR, and the National Socialist German Workers' Party of Germany.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=52z6NV3bijI

You have a slightly wrong idea about the chronology of the final stage of World War II.

World War II took place from September 1, 1939 to September 2, 1945.
Here's what Wikipedia says about it:
“The beginning of World War II is considered to be September 1, 1939, when Nazi Germany launched its invasion of Poland...
The invasion of Anglo-American troops into Germany and the Battle of Berlin brought only Germany out of the war, which signed the act of surrender on May 8 (May 9 Moscow time), 1945. In July 1945, the United States sent Japan the Potsdam Declaration, which it rejected. This was followed by the atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the entry of the USSR into the war. On September 2, 1945, Japan signed the instrument of surrender. This ended the Second World War."
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%92%D1%82%D0%BE%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BC%D0%B8%D1%80 %D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9%D0%BD%D0%B0

In the period following the atomic bombing of the Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki on August 6 and 9, 1945, and until Japan's surrender on September 2, large-scale military operations still took place. Thus, given Japan’s refusal of the unconditional surrender offered to it, the USSR made a statement to the Japanese government on August 8 that since August 9, 1945, it considers itself to be at war with Japan. On August 10, the Mongolian People's Revolutionary Army (PRA) entered the war against Japan. The fighting took place on fronts stretching over 5 thousand km. Only on September 2, at 9:04 a.m. (Tokyo time), the Act of Surrender of Japan was signed on board the American battleship Missouri, which was in Tokyo Bay.
https://www.noo-journal.ru/sovetsko-yaponskaya-voyna-1945/

European War 2 had already ended in early 1945 and it was official in May when Germany surrendered. Japan was also already defeated and had lost the war and had given up. Then the US regime dropped the nukes on them to make a statement for the future in the New World Order at the time showing its devastating capability and the will to commit mass murder.

To put simply, usage of nuclear weapons by the US regime had nothing to do with WW2.

Your friend is wrong. Bitcoin isn't an island, it's a part of economy and definitely affected by it (as you can tell looking at the volatility spikes in it versus world events). Bitcoin gets a boost when there are news of government acceptance, and price of it has been affected negatively by stock market dips in the past, so why wouldn't it be affected by WW3? Natural disaster wouldn't be any diffrent from that, depending how big and where, it could cause panic sale in all markets. And i am not talking about some tornado or floods, but catastrophic event.

Also if there's going to be big enough war that you can call world war 3, or catastrophic world event, i am sure that price of bitcoin will be least of our problems. At least if all of our wealth isn't tied to it at the moment. I can't really be afraid of any sudden natural disaster, but slower natural disasters could definitely cause WW3.

I hoped and thought that i could live rest of my days without seeing a war in my lifetime, but i am not certain anymore.

Ok, thanks god you admit the Americans did it. I thought you were going to say Putin is to blame.  


Where have you been for the last two years or so? At least, try to read the headlines: Macron: I can't rule out sending of NATO ground troops to Ukraine. President of Latvia Rinkevics: Russia should be destroyed. And many more similar headlines threatening to destroy Russia as a country. So in this situation Russia doesn't blackmail anyone, merely trying to defend itself from aggressive US sockpuppets.


I think you underestimate the power of the nukes. Ukraine will turn into a uninhabitable desert. There will ne noone left to defend it and nothing to defend.


Like what kind of measures? What kind of measures can be taken against a global nuclear superpower?  


WW3 is not going to happen. Because it would mean our civilization will cease to exist. Is it too hard to understand, colonel?  

On August 6 and 9, 1945, the United States used nuclear weapons for the first time in human history to force Japan to surrender in World War II. The attack killed 70-100 thousand people in Hiroshima and 70 thousand in Nagasaki. The death toll, including those who died from radiation sickness, exceeds 500 thousand.
As we see, there have already been cases of the combat use of nuclear weapons, and the paradox is that humanity never learns from its mistakes.

In recent years, we have seen how Putin’s Russia, carrying out a military invasion of Ukraine and trying to seize this state, also periodically blackmails the world with nuclear weapons. At the same time, the Kremlin is gaining the audacity to tell other states that they should not dare to help Ukraine defend itself, otherwise, under certain circumstances, Russia will be ready to use nuclear weapons. Blackmail is also directed towards the Ukrainians in the sense that if you effectively resist killing you, then we can still drop a nuclear bomb on you. For Ukraine, such blackmail makes no sense at all. This state will, under any circumstances, defend itself to the extent possible, even if nuclear weapons are used against it.

In this situation, international organizations, and primarily the UN, should have taken tough preventive measures, but the UN is practically inactive, and therefore there are virtually no deterrents for Putin. The Fuhrer of Russia, dying of old age and illness, may well decide to launch a nuclear attack, if only in order to deprive him of a trace in human history, even if in such a terrible way. The people of Russia and Putin’s entourage themselves could have prevented Putin from this madness, but they are afraid to even write against him, and hundreds of thousands of people are being driven to the front in Ukraine to be slaughtered. Russians are dying like silent cattle and don’t even moo.

The third world war, if it has not yet begun, could break out at any minute. But those who are dead or dying from radiation sickness do not need cryptocurrency.

but who in this world also has once dropped a nuke? because it could mean history can repeat itself.
if everyone will already be showing their nuke capability in the media. these leaders will know they may never be stopping anymore and pressing that red button will be done shortly.

they don't need consensus before dropping the nuke. there is no transaction fee to send a nuke. in fact we are now programmed there will be blackout in different places. during blackout, our crypto is useless.

If WW 3 does really happen then definitely it will become a nuke war. Any countries have nuke might use it at the beginning of the war or when they start losing to their opponent.
Crypto and human will become history, there is no way to survive after US, China and Russia launch all of their nukes.
But I doubt human really stupid to use all of the nukes in this world, if it only less than 5 perhaps human still can survive and there is still a chance crypto will be used again after the end of WW3.

You are wrong to compare the cryptocurrency market to other markets, and the consequences of World War II to the possible consequences of World War III.

  Nuclear weapons appeared only at the end of World War II in the United States, and their use in August 1945 against Japan quickly led to the latter's surrender. Currently, at least seven major states have nuclear weapons, and their arsenal amounts to 17,270 nuclear weapons. If at least some of them explode during the next world war, then people will no longer care about cryptocurrency. It definitely won’t be on survival lists. If the Third World War is nuclear, then everything will change, from the climate, the atmosphere, to the way of life of the surviving people and their appearance.

Many say that such a war will not happen because there can be no winners in it. Yes it is. But the reasoning of idiots is different from the reasoning of ordinary people. They reason like this: if I don’t win, then no one will win this war. For example: how many times has Russia threatened to use nuclear weapons over the past two years of its own military aggression against Ukraine? But in such a tense situation, the response measure can be purely preventive, even if Russia is now bluffing.

Technically, the cryptocurrencies with the bigger communities and the widest network effects - Bitcoin - would, I believe, continue to exist,p.

Utility, Bitcoin in your wallet is actually yours, you are sovereign in that regard, and in real control of your assets. It's going to be more useful in times of political/social instability.

Market, what were the markets like during World War II? They continued to exist and trade/function, no? The price of the assets might be lower because of lower demand, but the market never "died".

It's not even a matter of the number of hotbeds of military conflict, although recently their number has been inexorably increasing. The current formation of two blocs of states, which in the end may well start a large-scale war among themselves, poses a very great danger. On the one hand are Russia, Iran, North Korea and, apparently, China, and on the other hand are the USA, Canada, Japan, South Korea and European countries along with the UK. The confrontation between these blocs of states is changing, but on the whole it is growing.

Russia is now the catalyst for military tension, because it is bogged down in the war against Ukraine, does not have the opportunity to get out of it with dignity even if the Kremlin wishes, and therefore creates military conflicts and incites other states to do so, so that the United States and its allies provide more assistance to other states , not Ukraine. The threat of World War III in this case is great, but it does not necessarily escalate into a world war.

Regarding war, there are probably quite a lot of predictions, maybe it will start slowly, maybe it will boom in 2025. I also see it as a main issue.

So, in relation to the Crypto Market, if there really is a war and its impact, we cannot yet say it clearly and with certainty. What is clear is that it also has its own impact on the market. Actually, the current market war is a price war that is always fluctuating and will never end, yes. As long as there is supply and demand in the cryptocurrency market. Every day we see the price of bitcoin moving up and down within a small range.

Whether you end up in ETH or something else, these fluctuations will definitely test our psychology, whether we are strong enough to face them or not. If we are strong in facing it, I am sure we will get a lot of benefits from the price of bitcoin.

there is no trigger for world war 3. because world wars occur in many regions. not just in one zone, for example Europe, but in many regions and involving many countries, for example world war II.
Currently there are only wars in small areas, for example in Palestine or in Ukraine. even then there are only a few involved. world war can occur if there is a war between the western bloc of the USA and the eastern block of the Soviet Union involving members of the countries that are included in the block.

World war is something different, violence has risen recently but its not the conditions for a world war especially with ambitions that any side sees as fortuitous especially.  World war requires the honest delusion of believing the war is going to expand your fortunes and end your troubles, entirely opposite to what actually occurs there after.   Even if all parties currently engaged in war are idiots and we take no sides in labelling all parties as fools, I still dont find they are liable to invest all of their countries prospects in continually expanding that war against others thinking its a harvest of death reaping fine fortunes.
  Most countries currently are aware they are sending their people to die and will gain back less in any possible win, world war is a change in society to face negatives and label it a positive then we take some maybe alot of time and effort with perhaps a million dead to recognize a grand mistake.  We arent quite that negative just yet.

There is real war, but it doesn't really spread, as has been feared. War only occurs in certain areas, and the involvement of other countries is also not as intense as in the past because perhaps the economy is suffering due to the prolonged effects of COVID.What is even more frightening is the economic war, which is globally visible and involves several camps intervening with each other.
 
but the war that is currently raging, such as the intervention of Russia and Israel, will not be the trigger for World War 3. Many countries do not like war; they will avoid it by not carrying out or providing direct energy assistance to countries in conflict so that it does not spread. .
 
If a war like this doesn't affect the existence of crypto because the internet can still run well, apart from a war that has spread, there will be an impact.
 
but avoid open war; it will not solve the problem other than sitting down and having dialogue to resolve it; war will only harm everyone in conflict and those connected.​

Unfortunately I don't have a very good answer for you ...
1. A world war always "touches" much more than the direct participants. You can remember the Second World War - how many countries it "affected", how many countries suffered from it, how many peoples became its victims... so the Third World War will involve virtually the whole world.
I can say even on the example of the "local" terrorist war that Russia organized in my country. Now directly or indirectly this terrorist war affects dozens of countries !
2. Cryptocurrency is unfortunately not money. And until it is not really secured, for example, by the economy of a country or union, and it will not be freely paid for most goods and services in most countries, it will be an asset but not money. Regarding its value in times of global conflicts - I have already given an analysis - take a graph of crypto market capitalization and the value of bitcoin, for the last 10 years, overlay on this graph vertical lines at the points when there were powerful conflicts on earth, and you will see - that there is no noticeable connection between crises and the growth of the value of cryptocurrency. In gold, for example, you can see it, but not in cryptocurrencies

I do believe that wars are on the rise and can continue to be on the rise in 2024, but that's not the same as World War III (the definition pointed out by Solosanz is really helpful here). Wars can go on differently, and even when they're full-scale, it doesn't necessarily mean that people use cryptos less (or more, for that matter). My country is in a full-scale war right now, and I don't think it has a major impact on crypto usage (certainly not a negative impact anyway) here, let alone in the rest of the world.
If we hit that very dark point of collapse of human civilization as we know it, the Internet not being a thing anymore, and survivors living in their small isolated communities, then yeah, cryptos will be irrelevant. But in that case, cryptos will be the last thing to think about.
At this point, I don't think wars are having a significant impact on cryptos.

Well for me possibilities of world war 3 is inevitable in the future but for now  some countries involved in any agression or hostilities maybe vocal about it happening but the truth is that they cannot afford it to happen just remember this quote from Sun Tzu:

With regards to having investments before, during and after the war, there might be a slight effect on this depending on how intense war is but one thing is really worth doing during this time and that is to accumulate more Bitcoin and then go to one of the safest place in the world in case war really broke.

Regarding the possibility of unleashing a Third World War and the role of Russia’s military aggression against Ukraine in this, you are deeply mistaken. Our world is either on the verge of World War III, or it has already begun with a full-scale Russian attack on Ukraine in February 2022. This is the bloodiest war since World War II. The front line is more than a thousand kilometers long, where tens of thousands of mines and shells are fired every day. Several hundred thousand soldiers have already died on both sides. And this is not a local war that affects only the interests of the warring parties.

Putin began a war of conquest with the aim of changing the spheres of influence on the European continent. If Russia takes over Ukraine, it will move on to European countries. Already, more than 50 states are directly or indirectly drawn into this war, which are on the side of Ukraine and helping it repel Russian aggression. In turn, Russia is supported by weapons from Iran, North Korea and possibly China. European countries are now faced with the need to transfer their economies to a war footing. The situation continues to escalate and grow. Putin has repeatedly threatened Europe with the use of nuclear weapons. The dying old man Putin may well take half of the European continent with him to the next world.

This whole "world war three" topics never made sense to me, I do not think that it's going to happen. Or even if it is happening, it is not really what we think it will look like. We have seen the world go to war with guns and weapons and tanks so forth, we should not wait for something like that anymore. It's more about sanctions and such. Right now there are two wars around the world that gets attention (in reality there are more) which is Ukraine vs Russia and Israel vs Palestine.

We could say that they are all minor compared to a world war, Ukraine is handling their own situation against Russia, and Israel is just dominating and destroying all of Gazza, and that's why I do not think that it could ever turn into a world war, that is just way too big. We would have nuclear weapons talking, it's scary to think, but that's the reality, which is why we should not really consider this global, these are all minor stuff and not really involving more than two nations personally, sure maybe support, but not personally there to fight.

The currently heated war between Israel and Palestine gives signs that a third world war will occur if it is not stopped immediately. Because if you look at it from the naked eye, this war was only fought by two countries, but behind it all there were many allied countries, and it was clear that the allies of the two countries fighting also had almost the same strength. Several times there have been threats between allies. This is all because of US interference, the war is spreading, Iran, Yemen, Lebanon are involved in conflict, only Egypt and China are ready to fight, and Israel is trapped in their greed.

However, we all hope that a third world war does not happen because there is no benefit, there is only destruction for those who want a world war. Looking back at the history of world wars that have occurred, there were many casualties and property that took a long time to repair. Of course if there is a world war the economy will be paralyzed, I also don't think people will think about the price of bitcoin, they will instead think about themselves to survive.

Yes, it's a troubling time... International criminal and terrorist Putin's attempts to show his "greatness" by attacking Ukraine had no effect, and even had the opposite effect - the world realized that Russia in terms of military, economy, and influence is a FAKE.
Now Russia is mired and slowly being destroyed on the territory of Ukraine. The next fake election of Putin is at stake, and it is necessary to "cheer up" the public somehow. But in Ukraine Russia has nothing but mountains of corpses of its soldiers. Plus the Kremlin has realized that Western help has also failed to block the hands of Kremlin hand dogs like Orban. Which means they realize that the prospects of a classic war in Ukraine are NEGATIVE for Russia !
Therefore, the likely development of the situation is provocations from the Kremlin, which will lead to a real clash with NATO member states, and the West will most likely choose the path of negotiations rather than fulfill its obligations within NATO, which could lead to nuclear war. Why ? It's simple - for Russia nuclear war is an acceptable option, because Putin and his team are not interested in the lives of Russians, cities, economy of Russia. Russia is a "cannibal" country, a terrorist country, a country that does not honor any obligations and agreements. The West values the lives of citizens, stability. For the West, nuclear war is not acceptable.

If there is a third world war, the lives of all people in the world will be endangered.  It will affect everything. When a person faces a war, he thinks that living with his life is the most important thing. Then there is no situation to think about investment, profit, loss.  And what to do with money In a war-torn country, even if there is money, there is no stock of essentials and food.  If there is a third world war, it will certainly affect cryptocurrency. But I pray that nothing happens. Such a bad situation does not come to the world.  May everyone live in peace.  Let crypto currency be active. And why should we stop investing by guessing something?  Of course we will invest.

Maybe some would survive, because the third world war would certainly not be fought only on Earth, but also in space - given that some countries also have what is called Space Forces, and even today there are weapons capable of disabling/destroying satellites. Given that satellites are the greatest spies and see absolutely everything, any country that would like to gain an advantage in war would certainly try to disable enemy satellites.

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However, I wonder what is in the mind of a man who wonders what would happen to cryptocurrencies in the event of a world war - then it all boils down to saving your life, and not worrying about the price of Bitcoin. In addition, in such a war, the internet as we have today would go down in history, because the key infrastructure would mostly be destroyed, and without the internet, cryptocurrencies, as well as any trading that takes place online today, would no longer actually exist.

Frankly, I don't think (I really hope so at least) WW3 is going to happen. Simply because all major players have nuclear weapons and it will lead to a nuclear war and planet Earth becoming totally uninhabitable. I hope world leaders realize that WW3 will put an end on human civilization.

So, cryptocurrencies will be the last thing you're going to think about in the event of WW3.

We already have war already, it might not be the very definition of World War, but as you can see, countries are already separated like the last war. So we can say that we are already in the silence kind of war, US, China, Middle East, Russia and others countries already at it.

But we haven't seen the effect on cryptocurrencies, in fact it become a hedge.

However, if you define like a full blown war then surely it might be difficult to transact if infrastructure is down as we depend on the Internet.

agree that almost every time there is a conflict that results in war, it will be suggested that this will be the trigger for the third world war, but until now it has never been proven because every time a war occurs, there will be many countries that do not want to take part, which results in no effect. felt, it could be a prolonged or even widespread trigger.Everyone is also thinking about joining the conflict because the economy is already having difficulties with the COVID pandemic, which has not yet fully recovered to take part in making the conflict worse.
 
No one wants a world war, so if you think about it, it seems difficult for it to happen even though there is always a possibility, but the impact on crypto will clearly be disrupted because everyone will immediately be able to release the crypto; they have to replace it with physical form because when war occurs, it can be guaranteed. The internet will be interrupted, and you will not be able to carry out any transactions.​

World wars are causes of change with violent and destructive effects, and no one can predict what things will be like after the war, but after the spread of nuclear weapons, countries will be more careful to avoid such wars.
Expectations for the year 2024 are optimistic, as historically there have been many reasons for the price to rise. Therefore, it is assumed that the price will rise and that a break of the old ATH may occur.

It is not unusual to have a third world war due to the war situation of different countries and the way other countries are supporting those countries. World War II caused a lot of damage to the entire world and the United Nations was formed to prevent another world war, but even after all these years of the formation of the United Nations, there is a possibility of World War III again. If World War III takes place, it will not only affect cryptocurrencies, but the effects of World War III will greatly affect the entire world economy. When a world war takes place, the communication system of one country with another country will stop import and export, as a result of which all the countries that are dependent on other countries will be immobilized. 

We don't want World War III to happen at this time, we want peace to prevail in the world.

Bitcoin is a currency, crypto/altcoins are business ecosystem and scheme. While the war was going on, business stopped, the currency remained valuable. So, why bitcoin? This money is perfect for financing wars, military aid, arms trade as the western media believes. This means that certain people continue to use it as long as possible.

In times of war, as long as your nation or environment is directly affected, even if the price of bitcoin goes up, it wouldn't make much sense to you because their would be more issues to tackle at hand and I doubt that the price of bitcoin would be one of them.

While considering the numerous cases of wars around the world, we can't cease to think that a possible world war can break out, if it does happen, then it would definitely involve more than sic countries and it would be a devastating situation that I would rather not imagine in the first place.

If you've followed the recent Rusia-Ukraine war and the Israeli-Palestinian war and look at it effect on the citizens, you would know that if you're faced with such crisis, your business, investment, carrier or what have you would not even be of any concern to you because the trauma itself is unimaginable and i only wish and pray their wouldn't be a world war.

What effect would a zombie apocalypse have on Bitcoin?

This is the exact same question as asking what would be the effect of a world war, in both situations,.there would be the risk of human extinction. Even if it is fought by 6 countries the impact will be felt directly in every part of the globe. Tools of warfare have advanced far beyond what can be contained to battle fields and war fronts.

Satellites will be active after a world war.

Since I've been active here in the forum (and that's a few years now) there have been predictions here almost every year that the next world war will break out in the coming year. This was particularly topical after Trump's election in 2016. I don't understand people's fascination with this topic because it is extremely unlikely. No state (not even Russia) would be interested in a large-scale conflict at the moment. Even dictatorial states that have a military power (Russia, China, etc.) have an enormous economic interest that would oppose a "big" war.

World war can happen if the Russian block fights against the US block, in 2023 it was heated up when the ukraine war. but the US did not dare to frontally defend ukraine for war.
And if Israel is the trigger, the fact is that Russia also does not help Palestine.
so the trigger for world war III has no trigger that can become a major war.

so world war nothing and never in 2024

The war in Ukraine and Palestine has taught me one of my biggest life lessons. From the destruction of lives and property, it became clear that survival is greater than anything you own in life. Properties that took families years to build were destroyed in a twinkle of an eye, but I see them happy because they are alive. I have seen pictures of people celebrating escaping a bloody attack and caring less about what they have lost.  


The Bitcoin network might survive the war since it is decentralised but it will affect the price negatively. Bitcoin is part of the economic sector of the world, so the price will drop if the world goes through economic problems.


I am not wishing for a world war but you cannot easily predict how many countries will be involved. Many of these economically prosperous nations have allies that might wish to join forces with their ally. Many countries in Europe are reducing their reliance on Russia and have discovered new sources of oil and gas. I don't think satellite stations will lose power because there are other sources of power but they can always retrieve data when the power comes up.  


My prediction for this year is that there will be no world war. If it ever happens,  the war will affect the price but the network might still be operational if they are decentralised. However, the effect of this war on the crypto world will depend on the devastation of the war on the world. WW3 might wipe out a major percentage of the world.

Ofcourse, 2024 will be a really turbulent year for the world, but that, coupled with other factors would benefit crypto alot.
 We are still in the early stage of the turbulence, so I expect a massive correction/crash, down to a solid ground to enable the Bitcoin/crypto take in enough energy/fuel that can effectively power the price up to new highs in the main stage of the turbulent year.

Honestly the talks of a world war III has been going on since who knows when but until now, no actual world war has broke out not that i am hoping for one to actually happen but the point is the chance of multiple nations going into war is quite slim yes there is a lot of conflicts around the world but not all countries are eager to participate as they are also considering their own statuses

But in case a world war breaks out, of course economically speaking a lot would be in poor state they might not even have the chance or access to the crypto market as the war goes on not to mention that people would probably start pulling out their investments due to fear or financial scares

If there's a possibility of a WW3, we will probably see the annihilation of the human civilization, WW3 will probably see the launch of nuclear arsenals that will definitely wipe out the humanity so if this happens this year, we will probably not worry about bitcoin or the economy anymore because nuclear winter all over the world that will cause famines will be the prevalent thing that's going to happen all over the world so get cryptocurrency out of your mind when that happens because you're not going to see any utility keeping that even in the next 100 years because we're all going to go back to stone age conditions. We shouldn't dwell too much on this WW3 prediction too, it's a fearmongering tactic to distract from what's important which is changing our society.

Russia's military attack on Ukraine showed how fragile the peace on our planet is. We see that international organizations, which were created so that large military conflicts do not arise, and if they do arise, so that they are quickly ended, practically do not fulfill their functions. Russia has been waging a war of aggression against a neighboring state for almost two years now and, despite UN decisions, continues to ignore even the laws and customs of war.

That is why many states are now strengthening and rearming their armies, and the arms race is gaining momentum. At the same time, other states with an aggressive policy see the impunity of the aggressor and also hatch plans for invasions of weaker states. Therefore, World War III is quite possible even in the near future. If most states are drawn into it, cryptocurrency may simply cease to exist. Everything will depend on the scale of the war and the scale of destruction it causes. After all, cryptocurrency is completely dependent on the availability of the Internet and corresponding technical devices, which will not work not only during a global war, but also after it.

People jump to a world war a bit too much as if its inevitable or the next in the series of sequels much anticipated like a movie franchise or something.    Wars can be quite bad enough without involving every continent of the world in throwing explosives at each other.   Just predicting a war within a region is a bad enough occurrence, the most obvious one recently was a new war in Europe thats a bad enough prospect because a million can easily die even if only 3 countries were involved.  
  The middle east conflict around Israel seems to be a continual loop across generations on and off active or in a cold war type scenario since ww2 almost.  For as long as I can remember it was just civilians being shot both sides, so more like a civil war is how I class that as civil war is said to be the worst in that consideration.


First way to notice elevated levels of war is all the war stocks and companies start to do very well in the constant expenditure by countries on military budgets.   Doesn't have to be active participants just countries and armies nearby building up defenses is many billions and trillions spent that could have been used to keep people alive instead.    Crypto is included in war games when conducted by the defense ministry I believe all questions around banking and any possible attack on a country or their economy is considered so crypto is in that picture.

if we happen to witness another world war, definitely, people have different concerns and it will be their survival. btc will not be their priority to look at. they have more pressing matters to attend to, welfare of their families and all. if there will be no net connection, crypto and other digital currencies won't matter. it will be cash and foods that are necessary to survive.

and i don't think that will truly happen because in today's leadership, they won't permit this to happen. the catastrophe will be disastrous as we have sophisticated armaments/weapons already. quite dangerous to human existence.

You don't go chasing rat when your house is on fire so should there be a third world war not just bitcoin that will be immensely affected by the acts of the war but there will be a general economic downturn as people will be concentrated on their survival more than anything else and at that time bitcoin will be the least of their worries during the waring period and we all know what the effect will be on bitcoin and all other cryptocurrencies.

However, I don't see a third world war happening despite how hard the polity is been heated it won't lead to a world war as some people are prospecting. A world war happening the aftermath would subject the entire world into something unimaginable with all of the technological war artilleries in place war shouldn't be something we pray for because a lot of extinctions will be inevitable.

It depends on how you defined a World War and its scale.

I believe it was Einstein who said "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones". In this view the next World War will include nuclear weapons which could be categorized as an extinction level event, in which case there is no humanity left to want cryptocurrencies.

There is another view on how World Wars are categorized and in that category we're already fighting World War 5 (started on 2020 and will last at least till 2050). I'll skip the details but I can expand on this categorization if you like.

WW5 will be the same as 3 and 4, will be fought in many places (like the ongoing war in Ukraine, Palestine and Red Sea, South America like Venezuela, Africa like Niger/Algeria/Morocco, East Asia like Taiwan, etc.), will also include more cold wars and proxy wars.
It's effect on the economy, food and energy markets will be seen each time the conflicts intensify as we've seen over the past year (worsens as conflicts intensify). Then it will indirectly start affecting other markets like bitcoin's. For example we saw how the recession put a sell pressure on bitcoin price and caused a crash and then how inflation which has been acting against it could bring the price back up again as people still see bitcoin as a hedge against inflation.

Basically I'd say as long as things don't get out of hand and WW5 goes the same rout as the previous two we can pretty much expect volatile bitcoin market with more crashes but an overall rally in the long run.

If the war only broke on one area either potentially Russia or Middle-East then maybe only 6 countries will participate, but if an open war happened in both area of Russia and Middle-East, I doubt there will be only 6 countries, it will be more, most of European Countries will be forcefully involve in the war, because they are squeezed by both northern and souther conflict.

Not only Bitcoin economic in general will be affected, and I think it will be worse than the last Bitcoin Bearish, or economic crisis caused by covid.

Let's check the definition of world war.


My question is how you can be sure there will not be more than 6 countries? do you have a crystal ball?

Right now the conflict Russia vs Ukraine and Israel vs Palestine are still happen until now, next we might see North Korea vs South Korea, Taiwan vs China, US vs China etc anything is possible.

If that happen, many people will find a way to survive instead of thinking about Bitcoin price.

As 2024 approaching many predictions has been made about economic crisis that will shake the world with many countries rising up to fight against one another

If these assumptions/predictions are to be true then what will be its effect on cryptocurrency most especially Bitcoin. As we know during war, economic activities are always grounded where many will be thinking only about their survival in terms of living than economic dealings and gains

Was recently discussing with a friend who is of the opinion that since Crypto/Bitcoin is a digital kind of money it should not be affected by any natural disaster or war but for me I believe it will be affected since crypto/Bitcoin is striving because people are making use of it and if these people are affected by war, which will disrupt flow of doing things the normal way, then crypto will die a natural death at least for that period.

Although we both agreed that even if there would be a World War III, participating countries will not be more than 6 going by previous wars but these countries will be economic powers that can/would ground economy of others countries depending on them. Hypothetically, say Russia, it might be difficult to pump oil to neighboring countries and other countries abroad that depend on them for their survival and might not be able to power countries including  Satellites and Base stations (BTS) to generate data. Without data, cryptocurrencies will be useless as there would be no trading of any sort for that period.

Will like to know your view on these as 2024  prediction for Bitcoin, Ethereum investment is encouraging and we don't want anything to truncate this flow. For me I believe there won't be any war significant enough to affect investment in Cryptocurrencies.