Topic: 220G bitcoin miners official group buy (Read 5725 times)

There is no way anyone can expect to even break even on this device let alone make any profit.

Just open your window and throw the money out...at least you won't have wasted your time.

  Here i want to say two point.
  1: the difference between miners in stock and miners for pre-order, everybody knows the difference, but they may don't acctually caculate it, you know, if is is late for 6 days for deliver, that means 0.36 BTC,
  2: The other is warranty, i have office and open to everybody, and OEM factory opened to wholeseller and big customer, i can give my promise to give 3 month warranty, it may cost at least 0.1-0.2 BTC averaging it out。
    and the most important reason why i change back to 3 BTC, that's because i don't want group buy here now, as i think as a new fish in this forum and don' have engouth reputaion here, i can't get enought number to get to 100PCS group buy,  if you watch my thread at first time, you may know my first price is 2.5B for 100 pcs, and deliver in 4-6 days, warranty for 3 month.

   So now, i still sell miners only in stock, each order should less than 5pcs, and it takes for sometime to increase my reputation here. until now, is only two of them for i just register here may be 10 days. but i think, it is quickly if i give them good service and don't make miner seller as a secret thing,  let people know about us.

    First of all, thank you very much for trying help me, and that really means a lot to me and helpful too, and thanks to Member named "southerngentuk", as what i do now mostly followed his opinion.
   and to your suggestion, it may get really good effect too, and i still have my concern, and your friend didn't answer my PM yet.

    Acctually, untill now, two of members of bitcointalk.org has find a friend in Guangzhou, and come to my office and confirmed me not a scam, one is from Korea, one is from UK, The one in Korea i have deliver 3 Miners two days ago, and the on in UK, has paid to order 2 miners, and his friend has confirmed i have the stock, and will deliver in 1-2 days as now is weekend.
   
    And i can't give you their username now, but i will ask them to help me confirm after they got the miner may be 3-5 days later, but it depend on them.

    Again, thank you very much.....

Well the issue is pricing

Perhaps you want to sell on ebay as this price does not compute with current market difficulty and TH expections Feb March

You are late to market .....sorry

Btmine just about made it and failed on follow through.

Your close but not close enough for the numbers to work unless BTC jumps over $1000

Anything is possible.

We wish you luck just the same

Heck even my unicron wish you well

Best-mainer.com,

Southerngentuk gave you some REALLY good advice when he said ->

To help you out I provided you member contact information to a member that is well known and respected.  He’s known to do solid and honest business.  I understand you provided him good pricing BUT the issue here isn't your pricing.  The thing people want to see is that someone they trust has a good business experience with you.  I’d bet that’s why southerngentuk provided option 3.  You see, if you do option 3 above you’ll get option 2 covered as part of that trusted member’s review.  When that happens you’ll have so many people knocking on your door to buy your units that you won’t be able to keep your Avalon clones in stock.  As well, the trusted member’s contact information I sent you is from a person that will purchase the unit once it gets up and running AND has plans to buy more of your units *IF* the unit you send for review performs as you describe.  The thing is you need to build trust, not expect it as gratis.  If I were you I’d reconsider you position on this item.  You mention you don’t know Uncle Scrooge …. That’s fine.  Send a unit to Canaryinthemine and have him do your review.  The point is the fastest way to get to large volume sales, at least in this forum, is to have someone who is trusted by many review your gear and vouch for the experience they had with you.  Otherwise, the only other option you have for those that are smart about their coin balance is to do the Escrow thing …… which your OP says you won’t do.  Keep in mind, 3BTC for a 200ghash unit is quite a price premium over other sellers who have already done these things I've described.  For that price premium you MUST unload some of the risk on the buyer side.

H@shKraker

As i don't know Uncel scrooge, i may can't accept the deal for deliver and pay the shipping fee by myself first, but i have give him a really good price just to confirm we are not scam. Hope your friend will accept my proposal.

Assuming they shipped at current difficulty, you might make a couple of bucks by June.

If they get to your doorstep at 2.3+ billion difficulty, 3 btc is way too high for the power usage (1000 W  ), and you won't make jack, unless BTC goes up to the moon.

Price is too high for me. Best of luck to your efforts.

If people are paying via btc, I am more than happy to be the escrow...

Im personally very interested in this miner, after seeing btmine's sales went downhill

Sorry guys, but your offer come with great delay. Right now the fight is for ASIC miners capable of TH/s   

The market is flooded with mining gear (mostly from China) who use OLD gen 1 chips with top performance of ~200 GH/s

The price of more than $2000  per such an "antique" unit is too exaggerated !

Actually you can buy mining contracts worth 200 GH/s with less than half of your price.

Best-miner.com,

I just spoke with Uncle Scrooge on the phone and he's willing to eval one of your machines and vouch for you if everything is as you promise.  Please PM him.  As soon as your unit arrives he'll power it up, configure it for a worker at btcguild, get screen shots of the worker running AND pictures of your machine running, post his review and then pay you for the machine and shipping via BTC.  If all of that goes well he said he'll definitely order additional units from you (and so will I).  Have a nice day.

H@shKraker

Best-miner.com,

A long time and trusted member who is well know is Uncle Scrooge.  He lives in the USA.  Please send him a PM to get his mailing address so you can send him an evaluation unit. If you are legit, the eval unit arrives and it performs to your specs Uncle Scrooge will order that one plus 6 more from you *AND* Uncle Scrooge will vouch for you.  If Uncle Scrooge vouches for you I too will do so as uncle Scrooge and I do TONS of business together (i.e 6 TerraHash IV miners between us on a team deal with CoinTerra).  Once Uncle Scrooge Vouches for you I'd like 2 for myself.  Hope this helps.

H@shKraker

place a piece of paper with your forum name on the desk with the units so its visible in the photos.

watching,
I tried finding better photos for your units, could you post a photo of the unit against a white backgroubnd in several angles,
thanks

Sorry, we don't got an factory, and we are sales agency, and get the miners from it, it is not allowed to take video when they manufacture it, i'll post some vdieo to youtube late.

ref : 3

Look at the activity no. - higher the better, but also look through there past posts, some people have high activity because they spam alot of threads. Read some of there posts and peoples reaction to there posts and you will soon get a feel of how trusted they are.

basically once you have show you can deliver in good time then you will have no need for escrow anymore.

Just get your first unit out there and they will post un-boxing pictures ext.. and confidence will build quickly from that..

Thank you for your suggestion and i'll try all threee advice you said,  sorry for think you are miner sellers too.

1:I would give serveral unit as Escrow not only 1, but it takes maybe more than 1 weeks.
2:As we are new to this forum, anyone in this forum in Guangzhou or have friend in Guangzhou could contact us, we will pay the bill for 100 RMB for his visiting fare.
3:Can you give me some trusted member name? so i can contact him, even for deliver first and paid after he got it.

Can you post an video on youtube from manufacture process, or video shows the miner running?

Reason why we ask these questions is that its a normal procedure.
 if you got an factory it is some simpel steps to take to get more trust.

I live in bangkok, if you want I can visit your company and verify you. Roundtrip flight is about 300$.

+1

good luck!
-akw-

There are three options that work well here.

1. Sell with Escrow through a known member like Johnk

or

2. Get a respected member to vouch for you.

or

3. Send out a unit to a trusted member for review.

Good Luck

    Seems no need to argue anymore, whether you believe or not, we are a really bitcoin miners seller, and anybody have opportunity to visit Guangzhou, you could visit us as our address is open.
    If this group buy is off, it is ok, we still could sell it from google and to Chinese.
    Anyway, thanks for competitors and suspicious.

Trust is most important, so if there is no trust, there is no deal, we are new this forum, but don't represent we are scam, so if you don't believe it, as i say, find someone to check, it is really easy thing, just find someone through skype in Guangzhou China.

You cant jump into the forum trying to sell something and open multiple ID's and use them to talk up you product.

OK, your new here that's fine, but you have just seriously hindered your sales by using multiple accounts to pump yourself's up.

From your other thread.

Most forum members have seen this time and time again.

All members in the other thread joined the same hour - this is old and doesn't work very well here.

Usually takes less than 1-2 hours, pls mail us or leave a message in our website after you paid

Reserve 1, pls reply my email.

How long it needs to be confirmed if i pay with BTC. i want to order 2 pcs

You could write your name or bitcointalk account name or just leave it blank.

What should people write?

Price for each is 3 BTC or 2899$, free shipping to worldwide.(By DHL or Fedex).

  As we are new to this forum, there are many questions about whether we are scam or not, we'll post some videoes and pictures to confirm first and then let some qualify users to confirm,

    First is photo:
  
   Bitcoin miners from our Guangzhou OEM factory
   Test before deliver
  
    
   Empty box
  
   Old avalon 200G mining place
  
   Empty package for miners
  
    Videos:  Test at office for avalon,  http://www.youtube/VrqgHr6kdYU
    
    People confirm:
    There are serveral of them go to our office and confirmed us in this forum, so if you want, you can pm me, i will give you their id, so that you can confirm us. two of them let their friends in China go and confirm us yet,

    Order confirm:
    Until now, two of members in this forum,one is from Korea, one is from UK, both them have thier friends come to our office in Guangzhou and confirmed us not a scam and order servearl pcs of bitcoin miners. They will test for a while, and i will ask them to confirm me. and thanks for their trust

  

Features:
Color: Black
Wattage:1000watts
Hashrate: 200-220 GH/s
Powerful stand-alone ASIC Bitcoin Miner
Avalon Chipset
Specification:
200-220GHs (gigahash/sec)
1000watt operation
110v/220v operation
5A at 220v
embedded CGminer (can run stand alone)
Rasberry PI controller board
55nm Avalon2
160 ASICS on two carrier boards
Stand Alone operation
17kg
17" x 6.25" x 17"
Detail:
This is all-in-one solution, just plugin power and network cable, you can easily config via web interface.
We will help setting up the device for mining if required via Email.
It is very easy, you could check it from our website:
http://best-miner.com/technical.php
Device will be tested to prevent DOA before shipping it to you, we provide  post-sale technical support.
Payment:
We accept Bitcoin payment/Western union/Wire transfer.
BTC address: 1ALxbp9mt37JmjHhhigVG1VQGXC4HtaRFH
Western union: Name: Jingqun Chen   Country: China
Wiretransfer: Swift code: ICBKCNBJGDG
Bene bank name: The industrial and commercial bank of China, Guangdong provincial branch
Bene bank add: 8/F NO.123 YAN JIANG XI RD GUANGZHOU, GUANGDONG PROV
Bene Bank city: Guangzhou Guangdong Prov. China.
Account name: Chen jing qun
Account number: 9558823602007139963
Notice:
when you fill the bank's Postscript, pls don’t write this money is the payment for goods， as it can not relate to any trading information， this is very important！ if you write something related to trading, we can't receive the money ！
Contact:
Email:[email protected]
Skype:[email protected]
http://www.best-miner.com/contact.php


How to buy:
1:Open our ordering page,
http://www.best-miner.com/order.php

2:Choose the quantity you want to buy and other information need to fill.

3:Leave a message about your Bitcointalk account name. and explain that you are attending the group buy from bitcointalk ( Important, or we’ll think this order is normal order for 2999$/each)

4:Pay the way you chose, there are three ways, BTC, Western union, Wire transfer.

5:Login you account to check the order information, if you have paid, leave a message here and send us a email to [email protected].
  http://best-miner.com/login.php

Warranty
  We give warranty for 3 months, Frequency is 1300, overlocking is not warranty.

 FAQ:
   1: How I can trust you.
  We have our own office and not personal sales, address is on the website, if you have friends in China, you could let him visit us to check it. And if you buy more than 50pcs, we could let you visit the OEM factory. Our english official website was setup not more than 1 month, that because we used to only sell it in China, and due to Chinese law, sell mining hardware in China might have the risk to break the law, but now we want to do international business  from last Dec, that’s why we set up this official website and  start this group buy.
  Generally speaking, you have our address, account and name, phone number, we won’t cheat for like 2000$ or we want to go to jail.
    
   2: Why your price is lower or higher than someone, and free shipping
   We get the bitcoin miner directly from factory, so we could have some profits to give free shipping service, we are not individual, and need to give warranty for 3 months for avalon module, so can’t be too low.

   3: What if the orders delayed.
   We’ll pay corresponding mining income back to customers, but it won’t happen anyway.
   For more FAQ, pls visit http://best-miner.com/faq.php

Additional information
1. Payment must be made to secure your spot on the buy list.
2. No escrow.
3. I reserve the right to extend the auction if the forum is off and right to refuse certain bidders.

Additional Services
1. Tech Support via TeamViewer is provided by Jason from best-miner
2. Tech Support via port forwarded SSH & http is provided by Jason from best-miner
3. Tech Support via e-mail is provided by Jason from best-miner
4. Tech Support via one-way Skype & telephone are provided by Jason from best-miner
5. Extended Hours of Support is provided!

Risk
Bitcoin price, difficulty, network hashrate, the reputability of suppliers and many other factors associated with this GB are unpredictable. There are potential rewards, but also significant risks to this GB and we don’t offer any guarantees about the success of the venture. Please ensure that you have done a careful risk/reward analysis before joining the GB. We expect all potential group members to have done sufficient research to understand the hardware and bitcoin ecosphere sufficiently to understand what this GB will be doing. We are not in a position to offer any financial advice relating to this GB or other bitcoin-related matters.