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Topic: 25th Amendment is needed, but won’t it make things worse?. (Read 123 times)

legendary
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Watch the twitter video that shows that people at the scene recognized that it was Antifa doing the violence.


Trump supporters tried to STOP Antifa infiltrators from breaking Capitol windows during false flag “siege”



In their rush to condemn as “insurrectionists” all Trump supporters who came to Washington, D.C., on Jan. 6 to protest election fraud, the mainstream media conveniently ignored video evidence of actual Trump supporters trying to stop Antifa infiltrators from bashing through the Capitol building’s doors and windows.

On the south side of the Capitol where Trump supporters were told by the president to March, Antifa infiltrators made it to the front and began to try to ram their way inside through the entrance. Trump supporters further back, upon seeing this, started to yell things like, “No Antifa!” and “Don’t break the window!”

One man was heard screaming, “Stop them!” to the folks in the front, urging them to keep the infiltrators from becoming violent. Nothing appears to have been doing in the roughly 30 seconds that the camera rolled before the footage came to an end – watch below:

This is probably the first time you are seeing this footage because, as usual, the fake news refused to show it. Instead, they blasted the carefully curated footage and photos from the “siege” while trying to peg such actions on all of the Trump supporters who were present that day.

While only a few dozen “protesters” made it inside the building, which is what the media focused on, tens of thousands of real protesters were outside marching, exercising their First Amendment rights, and most importantly being peaceful.

This is the real story of what took place on Jan. 6 that most people, sadly, will never hear. Instead, they will believe the likes of CNN and Fox News, which do nothing but lie day in and day out because they are the true subverters of democracy and more importantly, truth.

The latest news about the fraudulent 2020 election, by the way, can be found at Trump.news.

Where is Trump and his family?


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newbie
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I believe that at this stage we all know what’s happening in US, and to be honest many of us saw this coming but not in the manner it took place last night (riots). Furthermore the growing demand for 25th Amendment is scary, because then Trump will openly tell his supporters this was planned against him, and America will only continue to burn. Lastly I feel that Trump should be removed from the office right away, but it has to be done with a proper plan and not just throw him out.

Sources:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/what-to-know-about-the-25th-amendment/2021/01/06/e1713eca-5070-11eb-a1f5-fdaf28cfca90_story.html

https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2021/01/06/buildings-in-us-capitol-complex-evacuated-amid-pro-trump-protests.html


Do you think that during the siege people stole things from inside? Wasnt this attack a premeditated act for some people to gain access inside and have a look around thru secret stuff?
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
the intent of the 25th amendment was not this - it was in terms of if the President was ever in a coma.

mental and/or physical diminished capacity.
i think his mental state is in question

100% his mental state is totally in question and that’d be a fair avenue to go about the 25th amendment and removing him from office. I’ve read some info on how it works, and it’s just Pence + a majority of his cabinet for a temporary removal that  would force Pence into the Presidency until Congress would have to vote in a 2/3 super majority to remove him permanently - this vote would have to happen after 4 days.

Elaine Chao is still in the cabinet (Mitch McConnels wife) - though I do think there are too many loyalists there to have a good shot at this, though I don’t know what Pences relationship looks like with the loyalists as well.

I think it’s a fair shot, but the bar is high.

Source on 25th stuff: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/06/politics/25th-amendment-explainer/index.html

legendary
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the intent of the 25th amendment was not this - it was in terms of if the President was ever in a coma.

mental and/or physical diminished capacity.
i think his mental state is in question.

next would be to put giuliani on house arrest and take his microphone away too.
'trial by combat' pfft. thats definitely LEGAL evidence of inciting violence. a proper lawyer would not do such a thing so publicly
legendary
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Flying Hellfish is a Commie
Depends on what ‘makes worse’ means to you and what you think is going to happen, though obviously that’s something that you’re trying to explore in this post.

I do not think that the majority of Trump supporters agree with what these people did in DC. Maybe some of them do yes, but I highly doubt the majority of them agree with this sort of thing. If pew research or some other polling outlet can prove me wrong then so be it.

Will it get worse? Depends on if you think Trump would sell this as a coup to the American people and try to take up violent arms against the government for forcibly removing him from his office before his term ends in 15 days.

I think it’s an interesting realm to go down b/c there’s so much unknown there. Never has this been done before and the intent of the 25th amendment was not this - it was in terms of if the President was ever in a coma.

Unprecedented times call for unprecedented measures, we’ll see where we go from here.
legendary
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those supporting republicans and the constitution wont mind.

those trumpettes that dont care about law or order and are just super fangirls of faketan trump would mind

yes it can make things go worse where trumpettes think their beloved cult leaders legacy is in harm
but those trumpettes may end up being arrested and put onto a 72hour psych evaluation.

police yesterday tried everything they could to avoid provoking violence in as much as stepping back.
thus letting protesters through.
this step back tactic is not only because it was the capital hill with a belieived 'holy ground' of peace. but also the protesters were quoting the 'commander in chief' as their reason protesters should push forward.

yes in some groups of people/public servants, an order from a commander in chief holds weight(even when its bad advice). so if trump asked his flock to jump off a bridge. the police wont try to stop it nor call it suicide. it would be called a public service and the police would just stand and watch 'coz trump ordered it'

with trump out of the chief seat. the protesters are then rioters with no one to blame but themselves. and then police can handle them better/harsher if they riot again.

in which case instead of letting people jump to their death in trumps name. get rid of trump and suddenly his 'power' is gone. maybe some trumpettes wont jump afterwards.. maybe the cops that are actually deep down trumpettes themselves wont feel obligated anymore to just just stand back

yes even cops can be trumpettes
hero member
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I believe that at this stage we all know what’s happening in US, and to be honest many of us saw this coming but not in the manner it took place last night (riots). Furthermore the growing demand for 25th Amendment is scary, because then Trump will openly tell his supporters this was planned against him, and America will only continue to burn. Lastly I feel that Trump should be removed from the office right away, but it has to be done with a proper plan and not just throw him out.

Sources:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/what-to-know-about-the-25th-amendment/2021/01/06/e1713eca-5070-11eb-a1f5-fdaf28cfca90_story.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/01/06/buildings-in-us-capitol-complex-evacuated-amid-pro-trump-protests.html
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