Topic: 300%-return 3-year loan request (Read 4148 times)

Well, I registered the domains for these projects over a year and a half ago, about 1 year prior to appearing on the Bitcoin (BTC) scene i. e. making my first post here.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "legit proof"? Note that these projects are in the considerations (e. g. attack methods and how to counter them) and/or design (application of considerations in e. g. MySQL Workbench) stage and that the designs are BUSINESS SECRET. Can you propose some type of "legit proof" which does not require me to hand over my considerations and/or designs?

An interested investor claimed that mining makes more; however, that is only theoretical as the Application-Specific Integrated Circuit (ASIC) miners are hard to obtain and there is no telling how much competition there will be later on i. e. what will happen to mining in 2 – 3 years. Plus, it's not a sit-back-and-relay kind of deal. However, it is something solid in your hands, even though it may become useless hardware at any point, especially if some of the Bitcoin algorithms are replaced.

I'm still waiting for you to show proof you have been working on these projects. Yeah you've sold one or two on BitMit. Nobody has heard from the "buyers". Can you show us legit proof?

I'll make the loan, actually I dont think so. 100% per year just isn't good enough.

Deliver all unmade National Security Agencys' (NSAs'), Government Communications Headquarters' (GCHQs'), and similars' ideas to me as they aren't worth shit until they're made – according to you.

I'll take you up on that. If you don't deliver, I'll have you declared a scammer.

Also, you did not specify what you mean by "make", so I will assume any prototype, even an ugly one with basic functionality.

You know, one day a week or two ago, I wondered how could react if I encountered someone who could do something far more than I could. The only non-passive response that came to mind is bashing them with mindless and/or random accusations.

Holy fuck man, you too?! I swear, the NSA, CIA, and the SEALS man.. They keep breaking down my apartment door, stealing my computers, and confiscating my cell phone! All because I AES encrypted the Declaration of Independence!
Now, you expect a person with a wallet full of BTC to loan to you under the belief that you are putting the funds towards these... "projects"...?

"• [BUSINESS SECRET] – a libertarian networking project that should change the world."


Shh... The Skull and Bits organization is secret. Except when it secretes.

Wow... https://www.bitmit.net/item/15000/?ref=6004

This guy is really crazy.  I hope nobody falls for that.

After reading this thread, it seems as if this guy is just trying to sound really smart by acting like he knows way more than us...

Also: Your ideas aren't worth shit until you make them.  If you make every single one of those projects and come back in 3 years, I'll loan you 1 BTC.

It could happen if they re-detain and/or whack me.

TL;DR - the guy prob won't be around in 3 years to repay.   

• Neven Lovrić <[email protected]>.
• Fakultet organizacije i informatike (FOI) – the Faculty of Organization and Informatics. It's not a college. I programmed e. g. Lines for Linux – find it via the Linux Game Tome, but I hear the site is dead, Antiroute (at PacketStorm Security; for Sun Microsystems' Solaris 8 on the SPARC platform at UNIXpackages; was also used to as a programming example at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) etc.), swapd (home page, as part of Debian/GNU Linux, as part of Ubuntu; at LinuxCertif) etc. – other programs were between RESTRICTED- and PANDORA-grade and have not been published, but bouncer 0.2 (RESTRICTED-grade) – certain parts of the United States of Americas' (USAs') National Aerospace Agency (NASA), Department of Defense (DoD) etc. were backdoored with it – was leaked by Vice Mišković to b4b0 in 1998 – etc. I graduated at XII. gimnazija – the 12th Gymnasium – in Zagreb with 5.0 and had the second-best entry exam at the faculty, but my – basically only biological (I was raised by my maternal grandmother who took very little care of me) – mother said I'm not for the university and refused to give me 800.00 kunas (HRK) – ~107.00 Euros (EUR) – for books, even though my – basically only biological – parents' – almost-exclusively inherited – properties etc. are worth over 1,000,000.00 Euros (EUR). The assistant to the professor of Informatics kept good-mouthing me so much as I was already an "expert" in UNIX when I came there that the professor saw me as a threat – asked me 3 times what a processor is – to which I answered with his definition from lectures, the definition from the book he co-authored, and my own definition – and flunked me. The guy also claimed at lectures that 3 types of transistors exist; which would these be – Positive-Negative-Positive (PPP), Negative-Positive-Negative (NPN), and – what? – Positive-Positive-Postive (PPP) or Negative-Negative-Negative (NNN)? The guy taught Security of Information Systems on the 4th year – I probably would have had a ball just listening to the nonsense he probably teaches at those lectures. The Programming I professor hung my written exam as the best one on her door, asked everyone 3 questions in oral examination, yet asked me 22 questions in oral examination, trying to give me less than a 5 as she claimed that I was "not sure of myself" – she quit after 22 questions as I knew the answer to anything she could think of and gave me a 5. After I programmed d12menu – an ncurses "Graphical User Interface (GUI)" utilizing authenticated and encrypted Secure Shell (SSH) for on-campus and direct remote user logins and installed it on the faculties' student workstations, the dean of the faculty came and ordered it removed – reverting all on-campus connections to the plaintext Telnet protocol, claiming that I'm stealing users' passwords – which was ridiculous as we penetrated the superuser level on on barok.foi.hr – the faculties' main server – on the 3rd day there and backdoored with my chidsu – Change Identifier Superuser – local backdoor and could have ran sniffit at any point in time – of course, they didn't know that, of course. The faculty gave awards to students making "encryption" programs utilizing the Vigenère cipher, with the encryption key hard-coded into the program – the program did not accept an arbitrary encryption pass word / phrase / key – such a program won 3rd place at the faculty competition to which I did not even apply as the teachers could not even comprehend the technologies I worked on. I got a job at an Austrian company soon after and basically never returned there. And now I have you people asking me totally ridiculous questions like "What College(s) you attended" – it's "which", not "what" – even though it – technically – can be "what" – and "colleges" with a lowercase "c" – and English is not even my mother tongue.
• N/A – the University of Zagreb does not have majors. However, my "direction" (?) was Informacijski sustavi – Information Systems.
• Interest.
• Selling copies or licenses and/or use – e. g. Anticipher will be available for tasking via www.anticipher.com, only – i. e. a Java applet selects the relevant parts of a cryptogram – e. g. a TrueCrypt 256-binary-digit-(bit)-Advanced-Encryption-Standard (AES)-in-XEX-based-tweaked-codebook-mode-with-ciphertext-stealing-(XTS-mode)-encrypted container (file, partition, disk, or other), intercepted encrypted Internet Protocol (IP) traffic, intercepted KASUMI traffic plus A5/1 traffic originating from the same device, or other, Anticipher breaks it, and e-mails you the pass word / phrase / key – encrypted with an OpenPGP key of your choice, of course; SecuriNet will not be for sale, but may be available for regional deployment – the problem is that I can get killed for offering a service so secure – I did not quite realize the political implications when I started planning / designing it; it seems Signals-Intelligence (SIGINT) don't want another Arthur Scherbius, except that SecuriNet is just the tip of the ice berg.
• A priori.

Since 2007, I keep getting arrested – have been arrested about 15 times – by basic police, Služba općeg kriminaliteta, terorizma i ratnih zločina – the General Criminality, Terrorism, and War Crimes Service, yet charged with nothing. I also keep getting approached, attacked and/or beaten by basic police, special police unit Alfa etc. in public They have suddenly broken down about 4 of my doors, threw me on the floor, beat me, dragged me out naked etc. For instance, on July 12, 2010 CEST, after googling information on Clipper etc. and while planning SecuriPhone – a Clipper-like – but non-escrow – encrypted software telephone, I was suddenly approached by police on a weird report that someone is lying at my location and arrested. I almost managed to slip away by using a false identity. I am also being interviewed by informants or operatives of Sigurnosno-obavještajna agencija (SOA) – the Security-Intelligence Agency etc. You should note that my paternal grandfather – Mihovil Lovrić – was killed by the Služba državne sigurnosti – the State Security Service – of the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and that I am the relative of Captain Knight (of the Independent State of Croatia) Andrija Vrkljan (Crimea Shield, Iron Cross Ist Class, Military Order of the Iron Trefoil IInd Class etc.), the commander of Hrvatski pomorski odjel – the Croatian Naval Department – and the Headquarters of Hrvatska mornarica – the Croatian Navy, one of the two negotiators of the surrender of the Independent State of Croatia to the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland in Caserta in early May, 1945, and an agent of the Secret Intelligence Service – commonly known as Military Intelligence, Section 6 (MI6) – of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. It is even worse than being a German and related to Grand Admiral Karl Dönitz. His wife was sentenced to 18 years of hard labor – apparently for being his wife – by the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia. Right now, Socijaldemokratska partija (SDP) – the Social-Democratic Party – using the Russian word "partija" for party instead of the Croatian word "stranka" is in power in the Republic of Croatia. All my bank accounts were blocked after finally managing to publish Cat out of the Bag 1, 1st Revision (Tor Web site | Internet Web site) and – after I failed to die from starvation – government operatives broke down my door and beat me about 3 weeks later – see case history Clinic for Traumatology, CHC of the Sisters of Mercy (page 1 at Tor Web site | page 1 Internet Web site; page 2 at Tor Web site | page 2 at Internet Web site). The authorities silently – as in no response – refuse to explain any of the attacks, identify the attackers etc. I'm entitled to free health insurance; yet, I can't get a single document necessary to sort it out; my teeth are falling apart – already lost 2 during the last 2 months as I live on old bread, which caused 2 cavities, and they only opened these 2 teeth, but as I don't have health insurance, they weren't fixed.

My life currently looks like this:

• I'm standing in the middle of the street – on the public side walk – and typing on my mobile phone. Suddenly, a guy approaches me, verbally attacks me, and then starts pushing me. As I call the police, he throws my bag with old bread – basically the only food I have – and all my other bags into a dumpster. The police come and say "only that", write down his details, and tell me that maybe I should go sit on a bench around the corner – on which I was brutally attacked by basic police – who took off their badges and refused to give me their badge numbers when asked – on September 18, 2012 CEST. After I request the attackers' identity and inquire about which legal measures have been taken against the attacker, the police silently – as in no response – refuse to respond.
• At a library, a cleaning lady comments "that is not such a frequent name". A day or two later, I ask a librarian if I may leave my bags near me while going to the toilet. I return from the toilet after probably less than 3 minutes and two other librarians – from the next shift – are standing there, waiting for me. One of the viciously verbally attacks me for having brought plastic bags into the library and demands that I leave immediately. After I ask her to write her name on a piece of paper – to sue her, but I didn't say that out loud – she threatens she would call the police to throw me out.
• A few days ago, I get stopped by police and asked if I have been thrown out of Zagreb by a court – a citizen of the Republic of Croatia cannot get thrown out of any part of the territory of the Republic of Croatia nor expelled from the territory of the state – Article 9 of the Constitution of the Republic of Croatia.

etc.

I'm being systematically starved to death on the street and being attacked almost non-stop; yet, my inventions and projects are worth between millions and billions of Swiss francs (CHF).

Can you give us some personal information to build some layer of trust? Yeah, you are some entrepreneur, but after reading this thread we know nothing about you. For example, will you answer the following questions:

1) Real Name
2) Age
3) What College(s) you attended
4) What your majors are in
5) What drove you to start these projects
6) How do you plan on turning a profit
7) When that profit starts turning, what is your payback plan

Have you ever studied logic? You do realize that your statement does not exclude the use of classified algorithms, methods, and systems, do you not?

Also, there exists only one algorithm for absolutely securing data and it is very rarely used by the public – if you're so smart, answer this question: Ciphertext of which encryption algorithm is absolutely insusceptible to cryptanalysis except for maximum length of – possibly compressed – data and can produce any desired plaintext from ciphertext obtained by an adversary? I'm – of course – talking of the rudimentary form of this algorithm. This, of course, merely guarantees deniability, but with this algorithm, it can not be plausible unless the data cannot possibly be compressed to fit inside the captured ciphertext. Can you find me a published standard on this algorithm and its' more complex forms?

The purpose of the published material is economic benefit to the United States of America (USA). Just look at why they developed Security-Enhanced Linux (SELinux).

Yet, have they published the source code to e.g. Stellar Wind?

Obvious scam is obvious.

Never lend anyone coins. I made that mistake once and I regret it every day.

Then why isn't e.g. the National Security Agency (NSA) revealing all of their technologies if they aren't worth the paper the specification is written on; have they run out of toilet paper and used all of those specifications in "times of need"?

"Conclusion: Keys derived from up-to-10-usually-used-pass-phrase-character pass phrases might be determined on a Cray XE6 with one million Opteron 6282 SE cores @ 3.1 GHz using a non-dictionary known-plaintext brute force attack within 3.66 days (only equivalents of Intel AES NI cycles taken into account)."

So, a computer using one million $1000 dollar chips would take ~7,099.14 years to crack an a-zA-Z0-9 14 char password. I think I'm okay with that.

Apparently the passwords I use take  ~295,440,635,715.48 years to crack. 

Please elaborate.

Well, what loan amount are we talking about?

You skipped over the question.  What are you willing to provide for collateral?

The Z Real-time Transport Protocol (ZRTP) and related protocols by Phil Zimmerman are some of the bright examples not falling into that category. However, the environments in which these protocols are used in practice make the overall system insecure.

"1,000 BTC" was only an example. What I was thinking of are small loans to get started. When a project gets into the deployment phase, I'd post specific large requests, but I'd also provide the would-be lenders with an opportunity to test the product before giving me the large loan.

He tried, but the bankmanager just rememberd another meeting, when the OP said the word "SSeALL"

Are you implying that Phil Zimmerman of Silent Circle does not know what he and his company is doing in regards to their new products?

If he owns a house, why not refinance or get a home improvement loan?

Would you be willing to put up your mortgage as collateral?

Don't see any other way someone will lend a newbie $30,000.

No. The Space, Sea, Air, Land Linux (SSeALL) will convert any USB flash drive into something more secure than IronKey, but it is just part of its' functionality. Also, IronKey probably uses escrow cryptography like most hardware encryption devices on the market, meaning that the government of the United States of America (USA) and other countries can decrypt an IronKey without knowing the users' password..

Do I sound that stupid to you? First of all, it is not a – as in singular – message board. Second, it is not just a message board system which you install and then set up a message board. It is something else... something novel.

See Non-dictionary known-plaintext brute force attack on AES-256 – http://www.pastebin.com/6i1D7Siv/ – for some published analysis of what even a dummy could do to decrypt messages encrypted with the 256-bit Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) in Electronic Codebook (ECB) mode if provided with enough computing power. It exposes the security of some stupider allegedly-secure communications systems etc. That's just a linear known-plaintext brute force attack. Anticipher will perform BUSINESS SECRET alinear attacks in scenarios like that one and other attacks in other scenarios.

Is anyone presently offering a civilian system capable of breaking e.g. A5/3?

300% seems fair to me considering the rates of fiat currency loans and 3 years leaves me plenty of time to develop, deploy, market, and profit enough to return the loans. How do you expect me to repay relatively-large loans (e.g. 1,000 BTC, total) with repayment starting next month through something which takes 1+ years to develop?

There's already most things, but they've been made to sell and either do not truly achieve what's declared or do not achieve what can be achieved.

Btw. most of these sites use the best technologies in such ways that they're useless and they use them mostly just so that they can declare that they're using them and don't understand that e.g. the Advanced Encryption Standard (AES) is not very good if used in e.g. Electronic Codebook (ECB) mode or e.g. Cipher-Block Chaining (CBC) mode in certain situations which may pave the way for e.g. Blockwise-Chosen Boundary Attacks (BCBA) etc. As an example which anyone can understand, just look at Cryptobin; the service is useless, except for the timed-message-deletion feature as all messages can be decrypted without having them deleted and, yet, they call themselves "The Ultimate Secure Pastebin".

I feel you are making your life more complicated than it needs to be and this latest post of your does not inspire trust at all.

A business secret possibly worth hundreds of millions... just like bitcoin, you need to translate the idea into meaningful action daily and make it happen.
There are an infinite amount of ideas in this universe. It is the action that is missing. Just do it and no excuses and don't go around asking for money with nothing but air. Why 300%, why 3 years?

While I'm all for starting a new business, it needs to be sound. Lately it seems noobs want to do just this but use others money so they have zero risk. I would advise sigh up for a few CC's, grab the cash and start things rolling on your own. Jumping around with several "plans" isn't a way to garner faith in your project, IMHO. Sound business plans will also increase your odds of a traditional loan.
If things still look promising, then approach potential investors.

Okay, so you got concepts and designs...

"probably worth a few million Euros (EUR)."

You need to justify that. There's already a service like what you mentioned. https://silentcircle.com/ How is SecuriNet different? How do you plan to market this service? What parts of this service (if any) will be open source? Is it a native app, browser extension, or webapp?

There's really tons of questions for this alone, and this is the least ridiculous proposal.

@Anticipher: Hey guys, PGP and Truecrypt are going to be broken by this guy!!!1111

* reads more *

@Last [business secret]: So you're developing an open source libertarian message board..

@SSeALL: A custom linux distro on something comparable to the IronKey?

@Bit the Coin: I don't think you've seen the FBI's report on Bitcoin.

* reads Insecurix *

You are certainly the Dank of cryptography.

I've already hired one guy for graphics – I'm paying him ~1% now, ~99% later – but I need money to hire more people to do side-jobs. I will also need money for deployment infrastructure.



The projects which I intend to bring to life first are SecuriNet, patenting of my invention in the field of cryptography, and Space, Sea, Air, Land Linux (SSeALL). They need not be fully-complete and perfect – i.e. final – within 3 years; what is important is that they yield enough profit within 3 years to enable me to return the loans and continue further development and operations.



I wouldn't say so. This is not just a list of "I'd like to"; I have created concepts and – in some cases – designs.

I honestly took your comments at less value after reading this post. Are you the only one working on it? How do you expect to do so many projects? Sure, you might say over 3 years, but if you have a project that is successful then it's not a good idea to abandon it and then start working on the 15 others.

Also, everything you mentioned here is worth ~$10 until you make it.

I'm looking for 3-year loans. I will return 300% of the loaned amount within 3 years.

You can lend me Bitcoins by transmitting them to 15eHztzh2YRFua3cBLWH8g87xm6tQ83FR3 (subject to change; check this post for updates) and posting a Bitcoin-signed statement – containing return instructions – about it in this thread.

I need the Bitcoins to finance my projects, including:

• SecuriNet (securi.net) – a multizoned, non-escrow Elliptic-Curve-Cryptography-(ECC)-based security network and e-mail, instant messaging, secure telephony etc. communications system which will, of course, accept Bitcoin – and, unfortunately, only Bitcoin as several states seem to be against me right now, even though Bitcoin was suppose to be one of the payment options – probably worth a few million Euros (EUR).

• An invention in the field of cryptography made while analyzing possible attack vectors on SecuriNet. The invention needs to be patented and it is possibly worth a few million Euros (EUR). Use will be free for non-commercial use with Free and Open Source Software (FOSS) Linux, Berkley Systems Design (BSD), GNU/Hurd, and similar distributions.

• Securix – a highest-feasible-security (highly-encrypted storage, Mandatory Access Control (MAC), quantum-encrypted communications etc.) Linux-based operating system of undetermined value.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] (SES) – classified storage encryption technology possibly worth a few hundred thousand Euros (EUR).

• InsecuriNet (insecuri.net) – a full-disclosure community of undetermined value focusing on computer system exploitation, electronic and radio reconnaissance, surveillance, and tracking (TEMPEST, rise time signatures etc.).

• Insecurix – an automated computer system, computer network, and mobile telephony – remote exploitation, reconnaissance – including TEMPEST capabilities, surveillance (A5/1 and A5/3 decryption), warfare Linux-based operating system. Theoretically, an independent multiple primary strikes system – can you say "Zap! goes the power grid, telecommunications etc."? – so the advanced features probably won't be available to any state except like the Swiss Confederation and Nepal who aren't going to attack anyone, anyway.

• Anticipher (anticipher.*) – derived from my Single Crack manually-distributed brute-force password cracker which I developed in 1998; will break password-encrypted dm-crypt, TrueCrypt, PGP Desktop etc. storage containers using several advanced approaches – including the one used in Single Crack, rivaling the capabilities of the National Security Agency (NSA), Federalnaya Sluzhba Okhrany (FSO), and similar.

• Data Flow Masking (DFM) – BUSINESS SECRET generally-applicable technology derived from my 1998 Bouncer Protocol considerations. The United States of Americas' (USAs') Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) would probably classify such technology as TOP SECRET.

• The Bouncer Protocol and the Bouncer network – the merge of my 1998 Bouncer Protocol considerations in combination with some Second-Generation Onion Routing techniques enhanced further. Unlike Onion Routing, the Bouncer Protocol was being designed for direct-relay path stealth communications instead of masking communications by obscuring traffic using a large number of encrypted relay channels. The Bouncer Protocol was designed for a single-man or single-group/unit exploited-system stealth reentry – Visible Forward Connections – and Blind Reverse Connections to facilitate reporting from deployed surveillance systems back to headquarters through hard-to-detect, difficult-to-trace stealth connections.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – visionary Extinction-Level-Event-(ELE)-resistant fast and reliable global storage system possibly worth a few hundred million Euros (EUR).

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – visionary, futuristic networking project; value: who knows plus progress of the human race.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – a new type of backup worth a few dozen thousand Euros (EUR).

• Bit the Coin (bitthecoin.{biz,com,info,net,org}) – "an act of domestic terrorism" according to the United States of Americas' (USAs') Federal Bureau of Investigations' (FBIs') statements thus far regarding Bitcoin; further details BUSINESS SECRET; value unimportant – purpose is increasing Bitcoin tradeability, usability, and ensuring state-resistant Bitcoin trade and usage.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – a libertarian networking project that should change the world.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – a new type of application of libertarianism of possible significant impact – might be declared an act of international terrorism.

• Space, Sea, Air, Land Linux (SSeALL) – see https://www.bitmit.net/item/16415/; value undetermined.

• [BUSINESS SECRET] – a novel, libertarian message board system also incorporating my previous libertarianism-unrelated message board considerations; Free and Open Source Software (FOSS).