Topic: 3×2.5 gram gold bars for sell (Read 2173 times)

The truth is we have no idea what happened to Liad.

He could be laid up hurt somewhere or dead?

If he comes back then we'll know, until then we can play the guessing game all day long.

It is safe to say though any future dealings with this account until such a time comes would be inadvisable.

It sucks any way you slice it.

thanks!

Probably not gonig to happen any time soon.

If he was hacked then he would have definitely noticed now and logged back on and apologise and sort something out with the people involved. Obviously he is not going to do that any time soon, since he was last logged in at around a week ago.

The loan of around $50 he took from me is still yet to be repaid.

There is really a small chance that the people that purchased from him will see their PMs or bitcoins arrive.

Thanks for the confirmation, I had that impression but wasn't sure. 

It's now clear that 3 people were given my tracking number while I did not receive it and we're awaiting Liad to clear this up.

That's what he gave me and two others that spoke to me in PMs.

I haven't heard confirmation for this, but did everyone receive the same tracking number as the one above that was on my package?  

Yes, everyone check in that might have lost money if you get your stuff.

maybe he sent those a month before his account was compromised?

Surprisingly I received my silver coins today, tracking number on my package was RR134030018IL.  

I still haven't heard back from Liad but I hope everyone else gets their items/refunds and he can return to give us a status update.

i sent 900$ to him

and yeah he give me track id RR13XXXXXX8IL

I hope they are alright since we haven't heard from them (in good health), has anyone had any contact with them since their disappearance outside of the forum?

Another user has messaged me in private and provided information that makes me relatively certain that he was given the same tracking number as me.  The seed is 000000000000000001e24dd37e14e925ec55bc8a65c6f7855b88b206dc0f4977 and the message was hashed with SHA256 in the format RR13XXXXXX8IL-000000000000000001e24dd37e14e925ec55bc8a65c6f7855b88b206dc0f4977. 

I noticed he was missing from the Slack on Saturday, I believe I talked to him there on Thursday before he was deactivated.

It'd be nice to have a response from Liad via PM or this thread but as more time goes on that seems increasingly unlikely. 

As of right now I regret to inform people that Liad.Services has most likely run off with the money.

He was part of a slack chat for collectors, he was active in there a week ago (not chatting, but his account was there), just checked it now and his account is gone, deactivated.

The other reason is that some of you who have dealt with him might be known users in this forum, but to me you are not as known in the collectibles sections. That may be the reason he refused to deal with me or buckrogers, since we are very active here.

From doing some rough math this may be about a $4000 run off. Which I guess law enforcement in Israel might not look over.

I know some users that have dealt with Liad might still have his shipping info and I'd urge them to use this for good, to contact the authorities in Israel and in the country of the affected people.

I am really sorry for everyone that might have been scammed by this user, it really sucks that it happens. Goes to show no one can be trusted these days..

I suggest we open a scam accusation and supply all necessary information and how to proceed in this matter there.

I purchased a little over 1 BTC worth of PMs from this thread.
We struck a deal on 13 Feb.
On 18 Feb I inquired about tracking and he responded that the post had requested a large shipping fee and he intended to split up the shipment.  I checked in to this on the Israeli Post website and came up with shipping of ~110 NIS or ~30 USD.
On 19 Feb I received tracking information.  This is the last contact I've had from Liad.Services, though I've not attempted to contact him since.
There are 5 entries for this tracking number at aftership.  These are 19, 21, and 22 Feb 2017 and describe the shipment as being sent to the US.  Interestingly, there are also two entries timemarked 19 and 22 Feb 2020, describing the shipment as sent from Rishon Letzion and sent to the US.

About the deal I made with him, I offered to buy him out on all of his generic silver.  I made an offer and he accepted.  Later in this thread, he claims to have more generic silver for sale.  Perhaps he found more silver, I'm not sure.  He did clarify that some silver would be in bars rather than rounds, which I doubt he'd care to mention if he was scamming.

The shipping situation is a little weird.  I can't know for sure if the Israeli Post website's shipping calculator is accurate or not, but if it is, $30 doesn't seem like a big deal for a ~$1200 sale.

I have received shipments from Israel previously and they tend to take a while.  Right now my shipment is at just a little over two weeks, so it's not concerning by itself quite yet.

That said, everything combined is a bit concerning, my concern being that we've perhaps all been given the same tracking number.  I'd like to propose that we compare tracking numbers in a sort of trustless manner.  My tracking number plus a salt can hash to cbdf36cc56e4030a69e5d94cb133a022ec031a67abdc838fcd50dbc346b0fe7c.  It is in the format RRXXXXXXXXXIL.  My tracking number is RR13XXXXXX8IL.  If your tracking number looks similar to this, reply or pm with at least 4 of the 6 missing digits and I will respond with the salt so that the hash may be verified. 

because they've both marked his account with "made multiple trades"

being as they are fairly trusted and have successfully dealt with the individual...they might have some insight we could go off of.

Thats not true at least in my case with Liad. He sent it via the Israel Post? (or something like that) and the tracking on USPS.com says it is not available  for Israel and using the tracking number on the israel post website it only updated once to show that the package left the country.

The package I received wasnt opened by customs, so I dont understand how it could have gotten held up but it took a month which discouraged me from buying anything else from him.

I think it is insightful just because if you dont receive your package in two weeks does not mean that it was not sent.

I dont think a signed message of an address only a few months old does any good, maybe one from a year or so ago.

Maybe there is someone that as talked with liad on the phone, or can verify his identity with past conversations that are not saved anywhere

Sigh most probably thing here is that while he was dealing with people @Gold/Silver was also tryng to sell the accoun if this really happen someone else should make the account at negative trust hence I see some " ? " wich I don't really understand what It means and have been around for a month already.

Actually the opposite, if his credentials were compromised he could sign you the decleration of independance

Sums it up quite nicely.

ALso remember that with my loan request he has produced a legitimate signed message from an address used a few months ago, which means that the account was probably not compromised at all.

See here:


It verifies out.

starting to glad i didn't even

Hi,

Not sure why you think they have any insight to Liad's disappearance?

He was flaky on responding to me on 3 different potential sales where I finally gave up on trying to give him my BTC lol. (probably a good thing)

Shipping from anywhere in the world unless package is LOST or hung up in customs, should not take a month, unless it is coming by boat with a slow person walking it to your shipping address from the dock

Plus any tracking info would show that status.

If Liad's account was stolen or otherwise, why hasn't he made another account to say "Hey guys my account was compromised, dont deal with whoever, let me try to sort this out"?

Or reach out to another member via a dozen other channels?

At this point until any notice is provided, I think we can consider this an unsafe account to do business with.

Thanks!

He also owes me here 0.038 BTC: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.18058977.

I have PM'd him 3-4 days ago telling him that he should post on the thread to confirm that he has received the loan, but have not gotten back any response both in Personal Message and in public. He has been online and active on other threads in the meantime.

For me this is suspicious activity, especially now he has a negative under his name.

I'll consider my coins gone for now - another reason why you shouldn't deal with him until all this is resolved.

hope so its just slow

It could be suspicious at the least, maybe salty or jones could clear it up for us?

I'd just like to point out when the user shipped me some silver it took exactly a month for me to receive it from the post mark date.

It could just be very slow

I've left him negative feedback until this is resolved. His password and email got reset, he sends false tracking info and he isn't responding to other PM's.  This seems pretty obvious.....

When I ask about paper shipped proof, he replied:

"It's not the first deal I am doing here, I lost the paper probably, the only thing I had to give you is a tracking number."

Track id not change from Feb. 22, and its shipped from Israel Post to USA, but im from Europe.

For now I would not do any trades at all with this user.

The recent email/pw change and the fact the user keeps "finding" gold and silver laying around. Fishy..

Same here...got track id but its strange.. from Feb 22 still no update...hope so im not scammed

Is liad usually good about that stuff and fairly active? There's a huuuge gap in post and trade history.

Edit I lied... Was looking at someone else's history

It seems to be that dealing with this user is like dealing with a brick wall. Throw stuff at if enough times and it might fall over.

Jokes aside, Liad seems to have been slacking a lot lately. When making deals and having open trades up that's the wrong way to go about it. Hence why I'm almost recommending people not to deal with that user right now.

The recent email/pw change might have something to do with it, I've no idea.

I'm having trouble getting a professional update from this user about some silver I purchased February 15, 2017.

I would appreciate a timely response to my follow up PM requesting the tracking number you were unable to locate since Saturday morning.

What does the US have to do with this sale? the OP is not located in the US?

thanks!

because the email and password have recently been changed, not unlike a sold account would have. A trusted account with a massive history of collectible trades must be worth a fortune...provided you don't fuck it up right away.

Can this user sign a message with a verifiable and previously used address?

And provide a photo of the item on a scale to verify weight?

I'd be interested in one or both bars pending these stipulations.

it is a good deal!!

if i was in the US i would have grabbed them all!!

not sure why they havent sold yet...

That's the best deal u could ever find!!

Still available
2 bars are left.

One is sold!
Two are waiting to be sold, rush because they won't stay for any longer!

Where are you living?
It may cost few bucks more, hit me up with a PM and we can sort something out.

worldwide?

Can do it for 320$ including tracked and insured shipping.

how much for all three

Why do you keep double posting your replies to make the post stick at the top?

I thought you said you would not have to convince anyone trying to buy gold near spot?

Sure


I also sold about  30 grams of gold to few people here before, they can maybe post here.

Can you post a time stamped photo with your username, your password and email was reset lately

Still available

Haha that's true, I wish I could have more of them.

"I just found this gold lying around", haha good problems to have.

I have sent you the reply.
Still available!

PM coming your way...

So just because I sold an item you wanted to buy so now you got a personal problem with me?
Whatever mate, I am not going to convince someone to buy a bar that sells near the spot price.

Was just going to ask to make a deal on these, then I saw it was you.

Good luck with your sales.

I just found I have 3 more 2.5g gold bars for sell.
The brand is Istanbul Gold Refinery.
I am willing to sell each for 105$, shipping is 5-8 $ for tracked, depends on location



PM me for more info.