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legendary
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March 17, 2021, 02:45:45 PM
#56
Yeah, the Kings won again they deserved it but claps to Luna Rossa with their all-time best results versus the champions.
It could be even closer but now eyes on the next cup in few years.

The winner now will choose the location and the next boat as tradition.

50% of winrate in the latest 20 years, not bad, not bad.
legendary
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March 17, 2021, 06:25:10 AM
#55
Kind of inevitable really 7-3

Team New Zealand stamp dominance with fourth America's Cup win

Their technological advancements have yielded another win. Well done to them.
In the end it wasnt close really.

Anyone have a bet on for them to win?
legendary
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March 16, 2021, 04:05:26 PM
#54
Yea, the writing was on the wall after race 7 really, Team New Zealand
showed their class and superiority.

Luna Rossa wilkl really have to pull off something very special to keep
the competition alive, a pity, the were really competitive in races 1 to 6.
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March 16, 2021, 03:09:26 PM
#53
3-6 now for new Zealand, they almost won, the second race has been deleted, Today (depending where you are living can be the last day), races starts in 8ish hours.




Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results
legendary
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March 15, 2021, 05:57:50 PM
#52
Just watching highlights now.

Team New Zealand were quicker in race 7, looks like consistently about 3 knots.
The difference in sails gave TNZ the edge too.
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March 15, 2021, 04:36:28 PM
#51
Not a good race day for Luna Rossa, they can recover but it is very hard now.

New Zealand needs only 2 points to win the cup.



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results

When you do a mistake with those boats able to racing at 100 km/m you can easily take 1 km disadvantage in 20 seconds.
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March 14, 2021, 06:37:05 PM
#50
Yesterday, Today's morning depending on where you are lining races have been deleted for low wind.
They will try to race again in 4 ish hours so the day skipped it will be recovered if needed in the end.

Always 3-3 we need 4 more wins for one team to have a winner.
legendary
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March 13, 2021, 02:36:12 PM
#49
Brilliant, This is getting more and more interesting, I certainly wasnt
expecting it to be so even.

As I said earlier, the starts are critical, along with close proximity racing
tactics and tacking.

I like that Team New Zealand are not showing their predicted dominance.
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March 13, 2021, 05:39:10 AM
#48
3-3 after Today.

In the 1st race Team New Zealand messed up the start and Luna Rossa won.
In the 2nd race Luna Rossa messed up the start and New Zealand won.

Very equilibrate cup so far, 4 more wins to get a winner!



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results
legendary
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March 12, 2021, 04:44:30 PM
#47
Race 3 Luna Rossa gained time on Team New Zealand on every leg, very smooth sail.

Race 4 there was a definite speed difference, NZ seemed to be faster for sure but
LR were close for the first leg, second leg saw them make a mistake and its over for them.

So far its hard to pick a winner.
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March 12, 2021, 06:42:44 AM
#46
2-2!

Close races today too. I see non-favorite so far, anything can happen.



https://www.americascup.com/en/results

Even with low wind teams were close.

They now will race every day till we have a winner.
legendary
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March 10, 2021, 04:16:02 PM
#45
Yes! just watched the highlights, great to see Luna Rossa being competitive and successfully
challenge Team New Zealand. After the posts above I was fearing the worst that Team New Zealand
would run away with it.

There doesnt seem to be too much speed difference at the moment.

The two races seem to have been won and lost with the start.
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March 10, 2021, 11:13:13 AM
#44
Good news everyone. Luna Rossa can fight New Zealand it will be an interesting ending.

1-1 after the 2 races of Today, they will now rest 1 day.



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results
legendary
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March 08, 2021, 03:36:38 PM
#43
Yes it seems like New Zealand are really at the pinnacle of the sport at the moment.
3 years ahead in innovation is unbelievable, is there any other sport which has one
team so far ahead of its rivals? F1's Mercedes perhaps - but not many teams besides I guess.

Here is an interesting article from France24 Headline with some quotes below.

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'Like facing All Blacks' - Luna Rossa take on Team NZ for America's Cup

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...nautical showdown where the result relies on technological gains as much as sailing prowess.

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The New Zealanders have remained at the forefront of research and development, making them short-priced favourites in the best-of-13 America's Cup final.

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"To be able to race Team New Zealand on (their) home waters, it's a lot like a rugby player getting to go on the rugby field against the All Blacks at Eden Park in a Rugby World Cup final,"

legendary
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March 07, 2021, 05:17:28 PM
#42
New Zealand is in light lockdown but for now, we have no more news about more postponing.

The final of America's Cup should start now on the 10th of March and according to l news leak, Luna Rossa will have no chances since New Zealand is rumored to be very, very fast, 3 years ahead in innovation as they said.

Let's see what's will happen this week...
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February 28, 2021, 03:51:05 AM
#41
7km/h in racing is quite a difference... provided both can reach top speed for the same duration.
Tactics and skills play an important part too.

IMO New Zealand are handling the new COVID cast properly like they have done. I would be
confident that things wont be treated light handed.

Hooefully there wont be too much of a delay.
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February 27, 2021, 11:04:07 AM
#40
New Zeland is rumored to reach 105 km/h yes without engines  Grin, while top speed of Luna Rossa should be around 98 km/h.

It will be a hard match...

Also, they have 7 days of lockdown in NewZealand now, the start of the races may be postponed.
legendary
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February 23, 2021, 03:30:29 PM
#39
Do they have the boat and crew to really challenge the New Zealanders?

Anythings possible but its going to be mighty tough.
Team NZ have some pedigree and a lot of racing history.

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February 21, 2021, 06:52:20 PM
#38
PRADA CUP IS NOW OVER, and we have a WINNER, Luna Rossa will be the official challenger of New Zealand for the 36th America's Cup.



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/gallery/1129_PRADA-CUP-FINAL-PRIZE-GIVING

Team Ineos UK has been demolished.

The Final Cup will start in 2 weeks and will be the Best of 17. Will win the one who will reach 9 wins first.
legendary
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February 21, 2021, 03:05:20 AM
#37
...and here we have it, Luna Rossa after winning both races today are in the
America's Cup against Emirates Team New Zealand, unbelievable how Ineos
have not been able to take more wins against Luna Rossa.

In todays racing it sounds like they never looked like taking a win in either race.

Race 7 saw Luna Rossa take the win almost 2 minutes ahead of Ineos.
And in race 8 the lead was about 1 minute.
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February 20, 2021, 07:15:40 AM
#36
5-1 now.

5th race was dominated to Luna Rossa, on the last one UK did a better start and manage to win the race, Luna Rossa tried they close the gap but they couldn't pass.



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results

They will now race every day till 1 of the teams will reach 7 points for access of the final to the America Cup.
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February 18, 2021, 06:38:22 PM
#35
There was a COVID situation in New Zealand, there were in "Danger1" with no cases as you saw people at the beach even had no masks.

They have now a few cases and the UK asked to postpone the races, Luna Rossa did an Appel and won, they will race regulary.
legendary
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February 16, 2021, 02:35:51 AM
#34
unbelievable come back from 8-1 down.

The racing this year is certainly not done yet. From that 2013 series its clear that
small tweaks can make massive differences.

That story will certainly inspire both teams no doubt.
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February 15, 2021, 06:39:29 PM
#33
Very strange to me to see Luna Rossa dominate the first two days of racing against
a very strong Ineos team from the round robin series of races.

Interested to see how Team Ineos can respond and if Luns Rossa can extend their lead.

Keep also in mind that in the round Robin Luna Rossa was planning to use a slightly different boat but Ineos did an Appeal and Luna Rossa couldn't use what wanted.

They changed the boat to adapt and these are the results.

4-0 is a amazing advantage but remember the 2013 with the final from 8-1 to 8-9! Anything can happen.
legendary
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February 15, 2021, 06:28:06 PM
#32
Very strange to me to see Luna Rossa dominate the first two days of racing against
a very strong Ineos team from the round robin series of races.

Interested to see how Team Ineos can respond and if Luns Rossa can extend their lead.
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February 14, 2021, 10:59:52 AM
#31
Day 2 gone, and the result is now 4-0 for Luna Rossa  Grin



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results

They now have 3 days of rest where the Uk can fix their problems.

Luna Rossa dominated so far in every wind condition.
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February 13, 2021, 05:33:58 AM
#30
1st Day of the final of Prada cup with Luna Rossa domination Ineos Uk!



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results

It's a very long race remember 2013 when they came back from 8-1 to 8-9!
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February 11, 2021, 06:40:46 PM
#29
Whats happening with Race 7 scheduled for tomorrow?

Just saw this, well you can imagine by now... They have chosen to delete it, no point to race it.

Anyway, the FINAL of the PRADA CUP will starts in 24 hours and it will be best of 13, will win who will reach 7 wins.

ITA vs the UK.
legendary
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February 01, 2021, 05:07:06 AM
#28
It was always an uphill battle for American Magic to recover
from that accident, I dont know but surely there was compromises
made in the repair to get them back on the water in time
for the semi's?

Anyway Luna Rossa did well and without any obvious mistakes,
a real strong performance, they will need to carry that into the
final against Ineos.

Whats happening with Race 7 scheduled for tomorrow?
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January 29, 2021, 09:08:32 AM
#27
Luna Rossa won both races and now is leading 2-0 in the semifinal of Prada cup Vs America.

USA seems still to have serious problems on the boat after what happened last week.

The top speed today was 98 KPM! Yes almost 100 kpm without any engine, this is insane.
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January 28, 2021, 06:09:37 PM
#26
PRADA CUP semifinals will start Today, don't miss it.
2 races. IT is a best of 7.

Who will lose will go home and MAybe come back in 4-5 years.

The real game starts Today.
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January 23, 2021, 05:53:56 PM
#25
Going to watch it tonight if not in full then the highlights, which I guess should be many.

From the reports I read it was a fantastic race with 9 lead changes with close proximity racing,
challenges and fast sailing.

Yup, Luna Rossa is closing the gap with UK, while USA seems slower.

UK is still 1 nautical knot ahead but ITA can fight with it and they have 2 more weeks to close the gap.

It should be a Win for Luna Rossa against USA in the semifinal.
legendary
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January 23, 2021, 12:07:19 PM
#24
Going to watch it tonight if not in full then the highlights, which I guess should be many.

From the reports I read it was a fantastic race with 9 lead changes with close proximity racing,
challenges and fast sailing.
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January 23, 2021, 04:33:11 AM
#23
American Magic didn't race today... so.



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results

Uk is already in finals.

The next step is Jan 29 the semifinal between Luna Rossa and American Magic and it will be Best of 7.
legendary
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January 18, 2021, 01:51:45 PM
#22
American Magic is to continue on in the race.
They will need about 8 days to repair structural damage to hull.

What are the implications of such a delay?
legendary
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January 17, 2021, 11:08:09 AM
#21
American Magic going so well in that second race, over 40 seconds ahead of Luna Rossa
before that capsize, pretty spectacular.

Luna Rossa looked to have trouble with the boundries.

Ineos staying strong.
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January 17, 2021, 05:18:10 AM
#20
Day 3 Results


Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results

The UK's teams seem unstoppable for now, we will have now 3 days off.


The highlight moment of the day was the roll-over of USA

America Magic turned too fast and ...





Pitcutres from: https://sport.sky.it/altri-sport/vela/2021/01/17/prada-cup-2021-american-magic-ribaltamento-foto#07
legendary
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January 16, 2021, 09:37:02 AM
#19
Yea I watched the highlights, the boats can go from being sat in the water
to being up on the foils and flying at times at 40knots in an 8knot breeze
on a small  1.8 mile course.
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January 16, 2021, 08:21:54 AM
#18
Low wind = no action

Ineos are going well, their odds are good on Betfair, 2.46!


Actually, the 4th race was the most entertaining, there was no wind for most of it and boats was turning like crazy to find it

From 100 meters distance up to 2km down to 200 and up again in minutes.
legendary
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January 16, 2021, 06:13:39 AM
#17
Low wind = no action

Ineos are going well, their odds are good on Betfair, 2.46!

https://www.betfair.com/exchange/yachting/event/30185773/multi-market?marketIds=1.176854301
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January 16, 2021, 05:41:43 AM
#16
Day 2 done.



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results

Uk seems very strong so far while USA got destroyed both from ITA and UK.

They have a lot of problems with low wind.
legendary
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January 15, 2021, 08:18:45 AM
#15
I think its very difficult to bet on these, They are normally run over quite a number of legs.

I like these races but I dont get to view them much.

The boats are indeed technical wonders using the latest most up to date materials and technology available.

Is anyone playing along with this, I have played on VirtualRegatta.com before on the "Volvo Ocean Race"

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January 15, 2021, 07:35:28 AM
#14
Results of 1st Day



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results

Ineos team UK was supposed to be the weaker team  Grin, they destroyed the USA while with Luna Rossa was a closer fight.

I wonder who bets on this as I am pretty sure most sportbooks both in Fiat or crypto world do not offer such option as very few people are interested in this kind of sport.

I have never watched any of these races but as is the case in many sports the weaker teams gives us surprises.
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January 15, 2021, 06:44:41 AM
#13
Results of 1st Day



Source: https://www.americascup.com/en/results

Ineos team UK was supposed to be the weaker team  Grin, they destroyed the USA while with Luna Rossa was a closer fight.
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December 27, 2020, 07:00:04 PM
#11
2 Weeks at the start of the "PRADA cup" the winner will go Versus the defender in the "America's Cup"



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December 26, 2020, 09:42:52 AM
#10
These new boats are new indeed, the AC75, but they're still foilers, "flying" over the water. With a single hull though, so it's even stranger. They must be exciting to sail for sure, excitment coming also from adrenaline, as if things go badly wrong, you could easily get very hurt or killed. They can go past 50Kts, that's more than 90Km/h !

It's too bad there are so few contenders.

I have experience sailing mostly cruisers, so less exciting, but I've done a couple of weeks of Hobie 16, and when there is a good wind and you're on the trapeze it's really fun.
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December 21, 2020, 08:44:59 AM
#9
Prada Cup in the past was called as... Louis Vuitton Cup ! Grin

I love to watch these races despite live streaming are transmitted during the night (italian time).
But it is something spectacular to watch! these are the fastest boat of the whole planet!
In Italy there are few fans since one of the teams it is from here "Luna Rossa" and normally there are regular update by national media.
 
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December 20, 2020, 06:30:37 PM
#8
In the final part of the World Series, a round-robin called Chirsmats Cup has been deleted for low wind.
The competition will go hot next month with the start to the interesting part, called PRADA cup.

The winner of the Prada Cup will challenge the defender of the Title.
legendary
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December 19, 2020, 07:22:16 AM
#7
It is amazing to see these "boats" fly over the water without engines attached.
I believe that such "toy" should be worth almost as much as an F1 car.

It's a pity that this sport isn't so popular in Brazi ... although there are national competitions, the media doesn't give attention to it, I love watching everything that involves speed combined with some machine.

Regular sailboats are already very fast making them race boats don't really make sense to me but since this is sports not luxury stuff I guess I can understand. f1 don't really make sense to me neither. I have never understood watching f1 games. It is just not fun watching the cars speeding through xx+ laps. It must be very fun for the drivers though (and captains)
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December 19, 2020, 07:16:27 AM
#6
It is amazing to see these "boats" fly over the water without engines attached.
I believe that such "toy" should be worth almost as much as an F1 car.

It's a pity that this sport isn't so popular in Brazi ... although there are national competitions, the media doesn't give attention to it, I love watching everything that involves speed combined with some machine.
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December 19, 2020, 05:24:22 AM
#5
Small update of the situation.
Team New Zeland won the preparation event called World Series.

Tomorrow we have a "round robin event" called Chrismas race and it will be the last time when we can see the title defender in the see until March.


Source pic: https://www.formulapassion.it/worldnews/focus/coppa-america-luna-rossa-per-un-soffio-539295.html
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December 18, 2020, 05:09:07 PM
#4
No, been following this sports for many years, and as far I know, this sailing yachts race have been here for centuries now.

I haven't bet on it though, So Luna Rosa will be the challenger, this yacht has been sailing since 2000 and obviously, it has been upgraded so that it can compete again.

@mindrust - there's also a Louis Vuitton cup  Grin, this companies sponsored this sporting event.

New Zealand yacht though are so dominant in this race.
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December 18, 2020, 04:34:48 PM
#3
Maybe.  Cool I learned this cup's existence right now from your thread.

Don't tell me like this.
Those boats are like the f1 of water with no engines even with the wind in the face.

They used to change boats every cup to find innovation and decrease the risk.

The most spectacular was 2 cups ago.

Those kinds of boat could fly in the water, literally


Source pic: https://www.corriere.it/sport/17_giugno_14/coppa-america-quattro-anni-piu-lunghi-velisti-all-blacks-f1c94134-506d-11e7-a437-ba458a65274a.shtml


Source pic: https://sport.sky.it/altri-sport/fotogallery/2013/09/25/la_fotostoria_della_americas_cup_finale_emirates_team_new_zealand_oracle.html#4


Those boats were unreal, just to put in perspective, look at one man random size and compare it to the boat.


source pic: https://www.albaria.com/1pagina/1pagina09/oracle_trimarano.htm


Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USA_17

Over 60km/h without an engine, and slow wind, absrud.


However boats this year are completely different.
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December 18, 2020, 03:20:53 PM
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I'm the only one who is following this?


Maybe.  Cool I learned this cup's existence right now from your thread.

the 2021 Prada Cup.

"Prada Cup" lol past bitcoin millionaires are probably following this but they are probably not hanging out around here anymore.

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December 18, 2020, 02:29:14 PM
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source pic: https://sport.sky.it/altri-sport/vela/2020/12/18/luna-rossa-americas-cup-world-series-risultati

The race will be between New Zealand, Emirates, and the winner of the 2021 Prada Cup.
The Challenger will be Luna Rossa.

The cup will be in March 2021, while now we are in the 1st part of the event the Prada Cup where the opponent of New Zeland will be selected.

Timeline from Wikipedia:

Timeline
  • 28 September 2017: 36th America’s Cup Protocol released
  • 30 November 2017: AC75 Class concepts released to key stakeholders
  • 1 January 2018: Entries for Challengers open
  • 31 March 2018: AC75 Class Rule published
  • 30 June 2018: Entries for Challengers close
  • 31 August 2018: Location of the America’s Cup Match and The PRADA Cup confirmed
  • 31 August 2018: Specific race course area confirmed
  • 30 November 2018: Late entries deadline
  • 31 March 2019: Boat 1 can be launched
  • 15 February 2020: Boat 2 can be launched
  • 23–26 April 2020: America’s Cup World Series in Cagliari (Cancelled due to COVID-19)
  • 4–7 June 2020: America’s Cup World Series in Portsmouth (Cancelled due to COVID-19)
  • 17–20 December 2020: America’s Cup World Series in Auckland
  • January–February 2021: The PRADA Cup Challenger Selection Series
  • 6–21 March 2021: The America’s Cup

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021_America%27s_Cup

Right now we are in the America’s Cup World Series stage.


I'm the only one who is following this?
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