Topic: 37 BTC STOLEN from electrum NEED HELP (Read 3925 times)

you what???

I'm sorry for your loss.

get a trezor. And don't write down its seed using a keyboard,... ever. Use a pen and paper.

To add to Thomas's "Lessons Learnt":

- If you're going to invest large sums of money into something, at least learn how it works.

You should not be putting your coins in anything you don't fully understand.


The Electrum "seed" is just 16 bytes of random data (shown to you as 12 words). This random data is the "key" to all of your bitcoins.

In other words. Anyone who knows those 12 words can spend your bitcoins.


The password you set when you create a wallet does the following:
- It takes the 16 bytes of random data, aka your "key" ("seed") and it encrypts it. Encryption means that "If you don't put the password in correctly, no one can look at your random 16 byte "key.""

- This means that normally, your computer has a bunch of data that, when joined with your password, will recreate those 12 words for you.

HOWEVER.

You took those 12 words and you left them on your e-mail account.

Anyone who knows those words can spend your bitcoins.

Someone hacked your e-mail, and saw your seed. (Let me guess: did you save it as a Draft and Write something like "Electrum Seed: ...")

In fact, I'm sure there was some way to know your e-mail address, and that it was an e-mail address was connected to you, and that you had a lot of BTC.



There's another lesson learned:
- Never tell anyone how much BTC you own. You're painting a target on your back.



Take the time to learn, or learn the hard way. That's how life works.

Sorry you had to learn the hard way.

no they don't.  the password protects the machine itself...if someone got control of your machine or broke into your office they need the pwd to send...but the seed can recover wallet with no pwd.  (you cannot read your seed if the wallet is locked with pwd, but that doesn't matter if you already had sent yourself the seed)

Hi thomas thanks fr the reply. But still they need my password to transfer money? So how they did it mate?

Looking at the wallet:
Most of the coins were sent to 1BA8FTYVxVnebhxQGzxJWy4Y4QKwsVKEko, in 7 transactions.
I guess the reason why we see 7 transactions instead of just one, is that the coins in the wallet were highly fragmented: each of these transactions has dozens of inputs.
However, these transactions paid only 0.1mBTC in fees.

I consider it likely that an 8th transaction was attempted with the rest of the coins, but failed to be propagated due to insufficient fees.

If that is the case, the final withdrawal (15d291dd8e705298499e37026b8574042eb3b0bccc0046878500af0b19c319fb, probably made by the legitimate owner) double spent the thief withdrawal.
(that withdrawal paid 0.4mBTC in fees)

Lessons learnt:
 - never email your seed to yourself. (write it on paper)
 - pay the suggested transaction fees, if you are in a hurry to have your transactions confirmed.

thank u for ur help guys.i kno im so stupid and thank u for ur kindness .im gonna put a bounty on this guy .worse has to happen to him
30 btc to the person who get him
thank god tht money was in my pc and i dont use that for internet

here is the master public key

2909e71890d9f4a2bf9ddd1e28f3cbaa93a221b2f4c5670a847364835fe373d6248e5b5baf95ba6 effc705e490c55c2378b6566b0a12d90187604cc6def06072

1. what do you mean by that?

2. move all the remaining coins away from this wallet.

3. it does not make sense to steal part of the coins and to leave 8 btc in the wallet.
if you publish the master public key, we might be able to see what really happened.

you need to move that 8 BTC to another wallet immediately.

Probably the 8 BTC was in another address and didn't show up
as default when the hacker stole your seed.

But, they will figure it soon...

And yes, everyone should be using cold storage!!!

Hey man, tons of us have lost lots of money/possessions due to foolish choices. Take it as an expensive lesson and move on with your life... things will get better.

its tru.im fool

Sorry to be so blunt, but... you are a fool and you are spreading misinformation. This can *NOT* happen to anyone. It can only happen to someone who failed to take necessary precautions, like the OP.

This is not a problem with crypto. Physical currency has the same problem. Banks were created to help people store their physical currency safely. It's simple a problem with the state of bitcoin infrastructure. Soon there will be "bitcoin banks" that will store your bitcoin for you and guarantee safe keeping. They will have take the burden of confirming your identity before allowing the bitcoins to be removed, and will be liable for all unauthorized withdrawals. It's coming, the market will demand it for full adoption.

You can only lead a horse to water, my friend.

This is the only flaw on the crypto, the lack of protection for the coin holders, ppl said too bad, this can happen to anyone, I think the developers should work on a way to prevent this actions, Sorry for you lost.

go take a nap, that should make the spinning stop

this is the address he sent to

1BA8FTYVxVnebhxQGzxJWy4Y4QKwsVKEko

my head is spinniing. pls help me

yes, contact the police.  they might even have a tissue for you wipe away your tears

I call BS on this. I have never heard of any hack in the history of bitcoin that the hacker did not take all of the BTC from a wallet/website unless they were somehow unable to do so. Looking at the address and the TX of the "theft" I see no reason why the "hacker" would not take the last 8 BTC from the OP.

ya i went to my email and checked recent activity and few activity im not aware of .
some one logged at usa ukraine and uk.can i contact police abt this ?

these are the ip im not aware of

Incorrect password enteredYesterday 01:21Ukraine
IP address
195.66.146.23Device/platform
AndroidBrowser/application
AndroidShow map
Account alias


IP address
92.11.44.77Device/platform
WindowsBrowser/application
Exchange ActiveSyncShow map
Account alias
[email protected]
You've secured your account since this activity occurred.
Learn about more ways you can protect your account.
Successful sign-inYesterday 11:17United Kingdom
IP address
92.11.44.77Device/platform
WindowsBrowser/application
Exchange ActiveSyncShow map
Account alias
[email protected]
You've secured your account since this activity occurred.
Learn about more ways you can protect your account.
Successful sign-inYesterday 11:04United Kingdom
IP address
92.11.44.77Device/platform
WindowsBrowser/application
ChromeShow map
You've secured your account since this activity occurred.
Learn about more ways you can protect your account.
Security challengeYesterday 11:04United Kingdom
IP address
92.11.44.77Device/platform
WindowsBrowser/application
ChromeShow map
Account alias
[email protected]
You've secured your account since this activity occurred.

cry?


don't do that next time


you're beyond help but I'm sure the new owner of those BTC will put them to good use

Did you ever import a private key that could have been exposed?

he made an electrum wallet and then for whatever reason e-mailed himself the seed. he thinks someone got into his e-mail, got ahold of his seed, and withdrew most of his coins.

I still don't quite understand how this happened, but my sincere condolences to the OP. That's really harsh.

To everyone else let this be a shining example of how important it is to take security very very seriously!

whoa another electrum wallet hacked

well it looks like all the funds have been moved from 1BA8FTYVxVnebhxQGzxJWy4Y4QKwsVKEko

hopefully that was you moving the remaining 8 btc.

all i can say to you is something that would have helped, yesterday: cold storage!!

i don't know, i don't like stealing from people, but if i really needed money badly and had to do it, i wouldn't take everything. i'd just feel too bad. sometimes i wish i had no conscience.

This really sucks.

Tough lesson, but sorry for your lost OP.

Maybe multiple wallets, but he got private key only of some?

BTW: never store passwords of anything worth more than pennies on email. Even print and stick in front of your computer is safer.

maybe he felt bad about robbing the guy clean so he left a little something behind.

OP, why did you e-mail yourself the seed? that's a terrible decision - you should have done cold storage too, so you wouldn't even need to email yourself anything.

i think the same kinds of people lose their coins and post here.. are the ones who don't understand what bitcoin is (plus they don't use cold storage), otherwise i'm not sure wjhy they'd ask for help getting it back, because there's nothing anyone can really do after the coins are gone. that's the nature of bitcon.. you can't reverse a transaction.

why would a hacker gain access to your BTC and only steal "SOME" of it?

Nothing you can do now.

Why the heck didnt you learn about cold storage?

Leaving key/pass online is NOT cold storage. You learned it a hard way.


Now i expect you to create a new forum account and become a bitcoin hater like.... many already did.

Chao.

hi i had 45 btc and i logged in to electrum .37  btc gone and they left 8 btc
https://anonfiles.com/file/0d55ad74585a5deac380d842b116c3cb

wat do i do ? i think they hacked into my email thru tor .
and my seed was saved in my email
i checked my ativity in my email and someone logged thru tor 20 min befo they take my btc
pls help me