39 Bodies found in a truck in southeast England

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Quote from: finzyoj on October 24, 2019, 05:25:48 PM

Quote from: Renampun on October 24, 2019, 04:02:07 PM

39 victims are not small numbers. this is included in the extraordinary crime
I hope the police can quickly reveal this case

Yeah! However, I can't say this as a case of massacre because the way of killing is not very brutal or either a genocide because it's not done by government. Bit whatever the police may call it, I'm sure this will not be just a simple case of murder due to large number of death.

They are Vietnamese immigrant who wanted to migrate to UK to seek greener pasture unfortunately ended their life in a miserable way I believed the metropolitan police will arrest the agent or the culprit behind this nefarious act brought to book, according to a report 31 men and 8 women were killed in this unfortunate incident I have a link here showing some there faces and some reports.

Link: https://www.nairaland.com/5495534/faces-39-migrants-froze-death
Link: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7618377/Family-youngest-death-truck-victim-19-beg-body-returned-home.html

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i think they were all of Oriental origins, it was an attempt of illegal immigration, they were too many for that van, i'm sorry for them, r.i.p ...

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Quote from: finzyoj on October 24, 2019, 05:25:48 PM

Quote from: Renampun on October 24, 2019, 04:02:07 PM

39 victims are not small numbers. this is included in the extraordinary crime
I hope the police can quickly reveal this case

Yeah! However, I can't say this as a case of massacre because the way of killing is not very brutal or either a genocide because it's not done by government. Bit whatever the police may call it, I'm sure this will not be just a simple case of murder due to large number of death.

Its mass murder. Method of killing makes little difference. Its very possible the lorry driver knew nothing...

Chinese organized crime trafficking people? The human organs trafficking hypothesis is viable if the bodies were frozen.

Other possibility is if they were already death when put in the container, then the crime would corpse trafficking...

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Quote from: LTU_btc on October 25, 2019, 05:58:13 PM

It's not first time when such thing happens. Few years ago 71 dead migrants were found in truck in Hungary:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/28/more-than-70-dead-austria-migrant-truck-tragedy
It's strange that fridge was used to transport these people. Usually different type of truck trailers are used in such operations.
I read that driver was arrested, but there is big chance that he wasn't involved there. Often truck drivers have no clue what is inside their trailer, they only have documents with some basic information like destination, weight and etc. Sometimes they don't even have right to open trailer and look what is inside it.

Most probably the document the driver was carrying bears false information. It might have declared that inside the fridge were dressed chicken or other meat-based products. He will have an idea of what's inside but he could never be sure if that's correct. It is basic that they have at least a clue on what they are transporting.

I hope my mind is wrong about them being sold for their body parts.

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It's not first time when such thing happens. Few years ago 71 dead migrants were found in truck in Hungary:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/aug/28/more-than-70-dead-austria-migrant-truck-tragedy
It's strange that fridge was used to transport these people. Usually different type of truck trailers are used in such operations.
I read that driver was arrested, but there is big chance that he wasn't involved there. Often truck drivers have no clue what is inside their trailer, they only have documents with some basic information like destination, weight and etc. Sometimes they don't even have right to open trailer and look what is inside it.

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Quote from: Renampun on October 24, 2019, 04:02:07 PM

39 victims are not small numbers. this is included in the extraordinary crime
I hope the police can quickly reveal this case

Yeah! However, I can't say this as a case of massacre because the way of killing is not very brutal or either a genocide because it's not done by government. Bit whatever the police may call it, I'm sure this will not be just a simple case of murder due to large number of death.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on October 23, 2019, 10:41:34 PM

This is ridiculous that 38 adults and one teenager's body have been found in a truck in Southest England. Nothing much information is found till now. British is having investigation on it. The lorry driver has been arrested.
Such incident nothing new though. What can be the possible reason behind it?
More info- https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/british-police-launch-murder-investigation-after-discovery-of-39-bodies-in-a-container/2019/10/23/63f45c64-f574-11e9-8cf0-4cc99f74d127_story.html

39 victims are not small numbers. this is included in the extraordinary crime
I hope the police can quickly reveal this case
because this news will affect the surrounding area starting from the economy and tourists.

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Quote from: bittraffic on October 24, 2019, 01:16:04 PM

Human trafficking they say. Left without food probably starve to death and freezing. They wanted to go to the land of opportunity escape the poor situation in their country but ended terribly. I wonder how they would dispose such number of bodies if they weren't caught and I mean this must have happen not just once.

Quote from: finzyoj on October 24, 2019, 06:52:48 AM

Quote from: Little Mouse on October 23, 2019, 10:41:34 PM

Such incident nothing new though. What can be the possible reason behind it?

Not new? So I presume this kind of case often happens on that particular country? That's quite alarming to be honest. Anyway, the other motive I think is they will also be used as sex slaves which is not impossible because they surely get all the services what these poor people could offer. And about on the cause of their death, it might be suffocation due to congested space or lack of air ventillation.

Mostly happen in Mexico border. Asian shipping companies probably are doing this all the time, with the right amount bribes to officials the will take the risk.

So sad and feel pity while watching the news this morning.People risk their life to survive.They are looking for opportunities on develop countries,sacrificing their life on illegal means and ending up in graves.I think International Agencies should step in this human trafficking issues so that no more lives will lost in the future.

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Human trafficking they say. Left without food probably starve to death and freezing. They wanted to go to the land of opportunity escape the poor situation in their country but ended terribly. I wonder how they would dispose such number of bodies if they weren't caught and I mean this must have happen not just once.

Quote from: finzyoj on October 24, 2019, 06:52:48 AM

Quote from: Little Mouse on October 23, 2019, 10:41:34 PM

Such incident nothing new though. What can be the possible reason behind it?

Not new? So I presume this kind of case often happens on that particular country? That's quite alarming to be honest. Anyway, the other motive I think is they will also be used as sex slaves which is not impossible because they surely get all the services what these poor people could offer. And about on the cause of their death, it might be suffocation due to congested space or lack of air ventillation.

Mostly happen in Mexico border. Asian shipping companies probably are doing this all the time, with the right amount bribes to officials the will take the risk.

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Saw this a few hours ago when they still don't have much details yet. At first my first suspicion was these are Arab or African aliens trying to get in before Brexit. Was quite surprised to find out they were Chinese.

Likely there's a trafficking syndicate behind this. We already know how tight the Chinese are when it comes to travel and it's said they've already started monitoring their citizens going abroad due to bad reputation Chinese tourists have acquired. There's a possibility the syndicate bribed an official. We already see this happening in Southeast Asia though we haven't heard of the people dying like this.

Quote from: finzyoj on October 24, 2019, 06:52:48 AM

Quote from: Little Mouse on October 23, 2019, 10:41:34 PM

Such incident nothing new though. What can be the possible reason behind it?

Not new? So I presume this kind of case often happens on that particular country? That's quite alarming to be honest. Anyway, the other motive I think is they will also be used as sex slaves which is not impossible because they surely get all the services what these poor people could offer. And about on the cause of their death, it might be suffocation due to congested space or lack of air ventillation.

It was a freezer truck so the cold definitely helped do them in.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on October 23, 2019, 10:41:34 PM

Such incident nothing new though. What can be the possible reason behind it?

Not new? So I presume this kind of case often happens on that particular country? That's quite alarming to be honest. Anyway, the other motive I think is they will also be used as sex slaves which is not impossible because they surely get all the services what these poor people could offer. And about on the cause of their death, it might be suffocation due to congested space or lack of air ventillation.

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Quote from: Little Mouse on October 23, 2019, 10:41:34 PM

This is ridiculous that 38 adults and one teenager's body have been found in a truck in Southest England. Nothing much information is found till now. British is having investigation on it. The lorry driver has been arrested.
Such incident nothing new though. What can be the possible reason behind it?
More info- https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/british-police-launch-murder-investigation-after-discovery-of-39-bodies-in-a-container/2019/10/23/63f45c64-f574-11e9-8cf0-4cc99f74d127_story.html

Possibly Human trafficking, organ farming etc.. but the case is still young and not enough evidence have been collected to suggest what could possibly the reason behind the crime.
I'm sure the detectives already have some Ideas but can't say anything for now. there is also a separate incident where they found 9 people ALIVE inside of the back of a truck,
it also happened in the UK. it raises some questions if the two incidents are related and done by the same person/organization/mafia etc.. also the site you provide requires you to
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This is ridiculous that 38 adults and one teenager's body have been found in a truck in Southest England. Nothing much information is found till now. British is having investigation on it. The lorry driver has been arrested.
Such incident nothing new though. What can be the possible reason behind it?
More info- https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/british-police-launch-murder-investigation-after-discovery-of-39-bodies-in-a-container/2019/10/23/63f45c64-f574-11e9-8cf0-4cc99f74d127_story.html

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