[4+ EH] Slush Pool (slushpool.com); Overt AsicBoost; World First Mining Pool - page 49.

allinvain

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1080

Quote from: traxor on February 20, 2017, 05:35:27 AM

I crossed my threshold around 4.5 hours ago -- no payout.

Same here. I wonder if they're having issues with their payout system.

I've sent them a message via the website's contact form, but I don't know what response time to expect (if any). I would imagine though that they would've done the smart thing and built some watchdog process into their system which alerts them of such problems.

Let's wait and see.

traxor

full member

Activity: 228

Merit: 100

I crossed my threshold around 4.5 hours ago -- no payout.

adyb

newbie

Activity: 23

Merit: 0

Has anyone else noticed that they're past their payout threshold (since a fair few hours) and payments haven't been sent out yet?

KNK

hero member

Activity: 692

Merit: 502

Your reward is calculated when a block is found and in your case it is less than 1 satoshi per block, so you will never get anything, because 0 + 0 will always be 0

joz

newbie

Activity: 9

Merit: 1

Hi guys. Bitcoin noob here and am trying to mine with a super-joke hash rate, just as a proof of concept/research. I've got a whopping 11 Mh/s off an onboard GPU (haha) connected to slush. It reports accurately and everything. My question is:

If I use this mining calculator with this hash rate, it says I should earn about 4 sathoshi/week. I've been mining at this rate on slush for a week, and even though my stats estimated daily reward says 1 satoshi, my confirmed/unconfirmed reward remains 0. Will I ever get even a satoshi? Is this because I only get that estimated rate applied to blocks found, and so it would build up far slower than 1/day? Is 1/day based on if the pool is constantly finding blocks? Thanks for your help/sorry for the noob question.

Cozy

newbie

Activity: 32

Merit: 0

Quote from: Rabinovitch on February 15, 2017, 11:22:15 PM

Why do you need to know it?.. Huh

And why wouldnt you want to know if one of your miners found one of the blocks? Answer that question?

Rabinovitch

legendary

Activity: 2030

Merit: 1076

A humble Siberian miner

Why do you need to know it?.. Huh

Cozy

newbie

Activity: 32

Merit: 0

Is there anywhere on this pool to see who or which miner actually finds the block? Thanks

KNK

hero member

Activity: 692

Merit: 502

There is a link in the pool stats https://slushpool.com/stats/hashrate_proof/

VentMine

full member

Activity: 236

Merit: 105

Quote from: HashSpike on February 10, 2017, 10:27:09 AM

SlushPool,

Hypothetically speaking here, what is to stop your pool from artificially creating workers and the hash rate associated with them. For instance, the pool has stayed at around 17,000-17,300+/- workers while the combined pool hashing power has gone up 10-20PH? Would it be possible for a pool to artificially increase their ghost workers hashing rates up by 10-20PH? Are ghost workers or artificial hash rates plausible?

I do not know anything about the backend operations of a mining pool, just generally curious? Is this something that could be done on other mining pools? I love your pool, just a little worried about the huge increase in hashing power and not an increase in workers that I would assume would come with that big of a jump.

How can I be sure a pool is not doing some shady stuff or do I just have to believe the stats from the pool?

Again, this is all hypothetical and I am just curious. Some backend pool experts school me to some knowledge please.

Thank you Gentlemen!

I can't offer any technical answer to your question but I do believe doing something like this would be a horrendous business decision, Slush has built a great brand and this kind of thing would destroy it forever. I think you could take notes on Hashrate and block frequency + block reward and figure out yourself if anything seemed off. Probably easier ways of doing it too

HashSpike

newbie

Activity: 21

Merit: 0

SlushPool,

Hypothetically speaking here, what is to stop your pool from artificially creating workers and the hash rate associated with them. For instance, the pool has stayed at around 17,000-17,300+/- workers while the combined pool hashing power has gone up 10-20PH? Would it be possible for a pool to artificially increase their ghost workers hashing rates up by 10-20PH? Are ghost workers or artificial hash rates plausible?

I do not know anything about the backend operations of a mining pool, just generally curious? Is this something that could be done on other mining pools? I love your pool, just a little worried about the huge increase in hashing power and not an increase in workers that I would assume would come with that big of a jump.

How can I be sure a pool is not doing some shady stuff or do I just have to believe the stats from the pool?

Again, this is all hypothetical and I am just curious. Some backend pool experts school me to some knowledge please.

Thank you Gentlemen!

hurricandave

legendary

Activity: 966

Merit: 1003

Quote from: VentMine on February 09, 2017, 10:41:04 PM

Quote from: hurricandave on February 09, 2017, 08:48:10 PM

I'm imagining my S9 working on a difficult share for a while before it finally realizes the pool has a new block to work on (just want confirmation from a smart person).

Thanks

It doesn't work quite like that. The discards are reported mostly from your machine throwing away current work because it's received the signal from the pool that the block has changed and it has accepted the new work parameters.
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OK gotcha, so difficulty will have 0 effect on long term average. Thanks
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If you set the difficulty excessively high for the asic, you will decrease your bandwidth usage, but, there is a tipping point wherein you begin to see something known as VARIENCE, your hashrate may look lower than you expected then awhile later it will look really high, like an exaggerated roller coaster.

VentMine

full member

Activity: 236

Merit: 105

Quote from: hurricandave on February 09, 2017, 08:48:10 PM

I'm imagining my S9 working on a difficult share for a while before it finally realizes the pool has a new block to work on (just want confirmation from a smart person).

Thanks
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It doesn't work quite like that. The discards are reported mostly from your machine throwing away current work because it's received the signal from the pool that the block has changed and it has accepted the new work parameters.
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OK gotcha, so difficulty will have 0 effect on long term average. Thanks

allinvain

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1080

Question is how much can we trust the pool own autodiff mechanism and do certain miners fail to work properly with this? When I check some S7s of mine they do seem to report appropriate difficulty - same for S9s.

hurricandave

legendary

Activity: 966

Merit: 1003

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I'm imagining my S9 working on a difficult share for a while before it finally realizes the pool has a new block to work on (just want confirmation from a smart person).

Thanks
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It doesn't work quite like that. The discards are reported mostly from your machine throwing away current work because it's received the signal from the pool that the block has changed and it has accepted the new work parameters.

VentMine

full member

Activity: 236

Merit: 105

Quote from: SlushPool official on February 08, 2017, 05:15:02 AM

Quote from: VentMine on February 03, 2017, 05:14:03 PM

When changing the difficulty for one of my miners on Slushpool, how long will it take to come into effect? I have an S9 and am trying to decrease the bandwidth consumption. I understand if I increase the difficulty I should use less bandwidth because I will be submitting my shares and requesting work less frequently (am I right about this?).

Also, does anyone have any suggestions on how I can reduce my total bandwidth / traffic use if I have multiple (20+) S9's running on the same network? I will be using a cellular data plan, so it is important to minimize my data usage.

Thanks

Hi VentMine, you can set the minimum difficulty to 28 000 which should decrease the bandwidth consumption by half. Let us know if it helps.

Hi SlushPool, yes I've got it figured out now. At first I made a small change to the difficulty so I didn't notice a significant variance / bandwidth change. I've since moved it from difficulty 25,000 to 250,000 and it didn't take long to verify that it did indeed work wonders at reducing bandwidth. I'm now at diff 500,000 for my S9 (max difficulty) just to see how low a bandwidth I can get (without running my own proxy as CK mentioned above).

So my variance, as expected, has increased dramatically. Should I be worried about increased stale shares or anything that will reduce my average hashrate, considering I am working at a ridiculously high difficulty of 500,000? I'm imagining my S9 working on a difficult share for a while before it finally realizes the pool has a new block to work on (just want confirmation from a smart person).

Thanks

bilabonic

sr. member

Activity: 325

Merit: 250

Hi Guys,

I have been running for 3 months with an S7 which ALWAYS shows a stable speed of 4700Gh (NEVER seen it lower)

BUT on Slushpool it ALWAYS averages about 4550Gh-4600Gh ??

I have the difficulty on Slush as standard 8....Would altering this make a difference ??

I also read some where that you can add 'details' to the 'Miner Configuration' to alter is difficulty at the miner, by adding +500/500 (for a dificulty of 500) or similar to adjust it there also ?

Ayone help

Thanks

An

wmabern

hero member

Activity: 658

Merit: 500

Visualize whirledps

Quote from: allinvain on February 08, 2017, 11:45:08 PM

Hmm, not sure what to say about that as I'm not really an expert on how so called "low quality hash" can affect the pool. I suspect you're referring to botnets or deliberate sabotage or high latency miners or? I'm sure the pool admins can see aberrant behavior on the pool. They do mention in the FAQs that they actively look for botnet activity and other such low quality hash being pointed at the pool. I dunno, let's hope that is not the case. Without knowing more details or feedback from the pool admin(s) I'd say it was just plain simple probability - ie pool luck. Luckily Wink

it has returned and the goddess of coin fortune has blessed us with a recent streak of high luck. *does a little dance*

You're most probably completely correct, of course. I just needed something to occupy my time while waiting for the next block. I like to think of it as my complaining jolted the wheels of fortune a little jarring the clogged up blocks loose! Grin

Happy mining to you!! Cheesy

allinvain

legendary

Activity: 3080

Merit: 1080

Hmm, not sure what to say about that as I'm not really an expert on how so called "low quality hash" can affect the pool. I suspect you're referring to botnets or deliberate sabotage or high latency miners or? I'm sure the pool admins can see aberrant behavior on the pool. They do mention in the FAQs that they actively look for botnet activity and other such low quality hash being pointed at the pool. I dunno, let's hope that is not the case. Without knowing more details or feedback from the pool admin(s) I'd say it was just plain simple probability - ie pool luck. Luckily Wink

it has returned and the goddess of coin fortune has blessed us with a recent streak of high luck. *does a little dance*

wmabern

hero member

Activity: 658

Merit: 500

Visualize whirledps

Quote from: allinvain on February 08, 2017, 01:37:23 AM

Looks like really shitty luck the past 10 blocks Undecided

Yeah, that would be a mild way of saying it. Tongue

It makes me wonder about the "quality" of hash pointed at the pool. But since we have no way of seeing what miners are hashing with what hash rate, we have no way of looking for any kind of pattern. Not that the pool members would be able to discover something "fishy", but at least with the additional information we would have a chance of spotting something out of the ordinary - if it was there.

--snip---

I had written a good bit more but decided it was probably best to keep my "mouth" shut. It would at least be nice to see what miner hits a block. But for some reason, I guess that it's for the best to keep that information confidential.

In the mean time, since there's no additional information to go by, I guess I'll stick with the company line: bad luck. Tongue

I hope it turns around quickly. Huh

Well after close to 10 hours we just found another block. Good luck is returning. Hurray! Shocked

LOL

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