Topic: 42 Confirmations, yet my BTC never made it here (Read 691 times)

Bitmixer had similar scam sites cloning its site and advertising through google adsense. Google ads advertised the scam sites until they were reported. Bitmixer issued a warning about them, but some people got scammed.



I found a link to bitblender.org on the sixth page of a google search for "bitblender".



Although I'm not sure where to report it Jman27031 could try this google link for reporting phishing sites. Hopefully google should remove it from its search results afterwards.

https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/?hl=en

Ummm no.

Have you actually been to the bitblender thread yet? or tried to contact the user "blender" via PM?

bitblender.io and bitblendervrfkzr.onion are the only legit sites... everything else (.org, .com etc) is a scam... as announced by blender here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17517232

Given that the .io site only directs users to the onion site... and the .onion site has the actual bitblender thread as the bitcointalk.org link... whereas the fake ".org" site just redirects to the front page of bitcointalk.org... and you don't seem to have any knowledge of the existence of the bitblender thread... I'm guessing you were using the .org site... and therefore the scam site.  

Right.  And it was the "for discussion about this mixer" part that I utilized.  And the discussion is that they are scammers.  I'd read that there was a scam site that piggy-backed off of their "supposed" good name... using a wordpress site to direct people to their site.  To avoid that one but that the one I used was the real deal.  But now I realize that the same entities control all of those sites.  There's another one that goes by "bitblender.io".  That, "bitblender.org", and the .onion site "bitblendervrfkzr.onion" are all run by the same entities/scammers I've learned.  Steer clear of all of them.  They'll let the first, or first few transactions go through to earn their trust.  But then the moment you trust them with a larger transaction they will take your money and run and leave your messages un-returned... and I've heard from some people will then terminate your account as well.

I doubt there's anything I can do to see that money again, but I will burn them as a result and cost them exponentially more business than the measly $145 worth of BTC they took me for.  Literally everyone that types "deepweb.pw" into their TOR browser and then clicks on the "Deep Dot Web" link will see my blog toward the top of their page, and I've now decided that instead of the headline being something like "Bitcoin Mixing sites, Who's Hot & Who's Not", it'll be a damnation of their site in general.  To avoid that trio of sites I mentioned as being run by the same entities who are scammers, and that I had no problem with any of the other mixers I tried... all of which had their own minute pro's & con's, but ultimately they did their job in the end.  That service being the exception.

What they say is:

And the link they provided takes you directly to their Service Announcement thread...

I'm not threatening "this place"... when I say I'm going to post my experiences I'm talking about "Bitcoin Blender", sorry for the confusion.  But on the Home Page on their site, at the very top, they have a post to this forum and specifically say to refer to this place in the event that there are any problems.

And you ask if they have any support/contact method...   I addressed that in my very first post.  The indeed do have a tab titled "Support".  All it is is a message box, and they say they will respond on that very same page.  And I sent them 3 different messages now, all the same stuff I basically said here, and I received ZERO responses from them.  No phone number listed... no email address(s)...  So that's the type of support one can expect from them.  And so I exercised my only other option to try to get the attention of someone who works for the place, by posting here...  the place they linked on their Home Page to utilize to try to get answers to problems.  So that's why sometimes I may associate this forum with them and make it sound like I'm condemning this forum along with them, as if they're not separate entities.  Again, sorry for that confusion.

In fact I salute this place.  Some good information.  Seems like a good community.  I most certainly will have nothing negative to say about my experience here.  In fact I get the feeling somebody here will help me resolve this problem.  And if that's the case I'll endorse this place not only with my words but my wallet... I assume there's a way of sending donations. 

And also if I do need to pay somebody to move my Bitcoins I will reward them handsomely for their efforts.  I read in some posts below about people requesting for people to "mine" their BTC.  But it sounds like in their case they received no confirmations.  That wasn't my problem.  I did receive confirmations... 42 of them at last glance.  So I assume that means I did indeed send an adequate mining fee, correct?  But when I look now I see no confirmations.  That makes me think my transaction has now gone through...  but not to me.  And considering how secure my setup is and how careful I was through every step of the process it would have to have been an inside job if that indeed did happen.  But if I'm incorrect and do indeed need to pay some mining fee to get the ball rolling I will do so.  But that was always done automatically before, using localbitcoins.  I don't know why it wouldn't have been done automatically this time, but again, there's a first time for everything.

I also noticed that person posted their transaction ID/receiving address.  And so I'll assume it is safe and post mine too, if it helps someone help me:

Transaction ID:  7825377d41879e2ecc631c3ea86278969dbadf8e1cbc245014dfb167c71ffe4c

Receiving Address (to Bitcoin Blender):  1N6AjyEwb3dxRuon45r4U6u1A8vryycSDv

Sending Address (from localbitcoins):  13WXQCUfgmk8AuMR7DoXnRdC3xMzSrFnyC

Why are you threatening "this place" with a negative review... when it has pretty much ZERO relationship to BitBlender... other than both things being bitcoin related? That's like going to your local bar and complaining at them because you got bad service at the gas station down the road?

Do they not have any advertised support/contact method for the BitBlender service on their website?

Perhaps you should be posting in the BitBlender thread in the "Services" section and see if they respond... the user "blender" was last active on the 14th... so about a week ago.

If no response is received after maybe 24-48 hrs then maybe start a thread in the "Scam accusations" subforum...

I think this is the proper place for this.  After all it says "Technical Support" with "Transactions" specifically being one of the criteria it covers.  I looked at every category first and felt this was the best fit.

And if it helps... if someone that works for this site and can help is reading this my username is:

Zip50175

The amount of Bitcoins I sent was:  0.06785572    Currently of which the value is:  $145.75  

I'm pretty sure it was $133 roughly that I sent initially.

I'm not sure if it's safe to post the receiving address I used at the time or not.  If it is and can help then someone that knows so please let me know and I'll post that too.

Maybe this was some kind of honest mistake or even oversight on my part, like I said toward the end of that long post above.  Perhaps that "Request Payment" button on the Blockchain is the answer to my problem.  If so I need to know what to enter there.  I don't know if I'm supposed to enter the amount of the entire transaction or an amount of a nominal fee to offer someone to move my money where it's supposed to be.  Please let me know... if that button/option is even relevant that is.  And let me know the answer to that as well (whether that button means that or not).

I definitely don't want to paint this place in a negative light if it's not warranted, because a lot of people follow my blog and it could negatively impact this place unjustifiably.  But at the same time if I don't an explanation/answer to my problem here, and ultimately my Bitcoins, I will have no choice than to post my experience in an objective manner for all to see.  It's not only my job but also my responsibility to get the word out to others so that they can make informed decisions and not have happen to them what happened to me.  Because unless I realize there's a viable explanation as to what happened here, and a resolution, my position will be not only to tell people to avoid this site but to avoid mixing/tumbling sites altogether.  After all I had a blueprint of scenarios laid out in advance to use depending on my experiences.  And one of them, if things went south during any single one of my test runs, was to tell people that as long as they don't have any personally identifiable information tied to the Bitcoin buying/selling site they decide to use (by using a fake/throw-away email address and using a VPN), and choosing "Cash By Mail" as their payment option, using either a fake return address or none at all, that there's really no way to tie the transaction to them anyway.  And, again, if this matter isn't resolved that's the way I'll go.

It's highly improbable that I could have been compromised.  I run a very, very tight ship that starts at the core, eliminating/disabling anything that isn't absolutey necessary to eliminate attack surface.  To make it so that I could be safe without any need for any 3'rd party support or even a router.  Using whitelisting approach for basically everything, and then of course adding things, like of course really using a router, properly configured, and hardwired into it (WiFi disabled). My LAN range consists of only 1 IP address, the machine I'm using now.  Then adding an outbound firewall and HIPS, allowing only protocols, IP addresses/ranges, ports, and functionality that's absolutely necessary for proper functionality of everything, from my apps to websites working properly.  Hosts and block lists.  For every website I frequent or consider important (like this one), when I go to it I look at every IP address on the list and then adding them to my block list to see if it still works properly.  If it doesn't I remove IP add's 1 at a time until only the ones that are necessary for sites to function properly left.  All the IP add's left are likely trackers, or worse.  Adding block rules beneath the rules for apps in my FW, which is one of several methods I use to prevent DNS leaks.  If my VPN (double hop) were to disconnect for example my entire internet connection would drop.  I also use an app (DNS Leak Fix) created by the very VPN I use (iVPN), IMO it and Mullvad are the best two.  Many claim not to keep logs but these two have proven it over time by refusing to turn over info. despite being pressured to by 3 letter agencies, claiming as they do on their sites, that there's nothing to turn over because they don't keep logs.  Their servers have been seized and it's been confirmed that it's indeed the truth.  I also use Sandboxie with VERY restricted sandboxes, usually allowing only the app I've created it for, save perhaps an OS file needed for it to work properly, or in the case of Pidgin Messenger OTR.  Any new downloads are sent to a dedicated partition in which they are scanned by VT Hash Check to confirm they're safe before sending them where they belong.  And a sandbox named "Realtime" for anything plugged into a USB port, my CD/DVD drive, and floppy drive (A:).  Which brings me to another huge part of my approach - isolation.  I create partitions for different things, many apps have their own, like my browser.  And my OS.  This helps keep malware from spreading to my OS, stuck in an isolated sandbox/partition, not a threat, then flushed when I empty said sandbox.  Always on Hardware DEP, and Malwarebytes Anti-Exploit with many methods to prevent exploits.  On top of DNS Leak Fix I manually flush my DNS cache using "cmd" before opening my browser/TOR.  Hardcode the DNS add. of the 2'nd hop of my VPN into my router. etc...  Utilize addons on my version of Firefox from before Austrailis (sp?) screwed everything up like NoScript, HTTPS-Everywhere, RequestPolicy, CS Lite Mod, Private Tab, uBlock, Calomel SSL Validation.  Many things that would alert me to the fact that I'd be on a rogue/imposter site.  Not to mention my search engine (Ixquick) does an excellent job of identifying and removing such sites.  I'd be able to tell if I were on such a site by simply looking at the color of my Calomel logo, or URL bar.  Plus I favorited the site the first time I went to it, using Ixquick to search for it, not by clicking on some random link.  That first time when it worked just fine. 

To make a long story short (too late, I know)...  I'm very anal about security/privacy/anonymity, and I know that if I was somehow compromised it was an inside job.  Either that or I overlooked something.

I notice on the blockchain it says "Request Payment" there.  But I'm not sure what that's all about.  Can I use that to move my Bitcoins where they're supposed to be?  What do I put into the boxes?  I don't know if I'm supposed to put all the Bitcoins I was trying to move into the box, or if I'm supposed to offer some nominal fee for somebody to do the job for me and move my BTC here?  Can somebody tell me if this is the case?...  if there's anything I can do in that regard?  I didn't have to do it any other time I moved bitcoins, but there's a first time for everything too.  So perhaps that's the thing I'm overlooking here?...   If so, or if there's another way I can resolve this by offering someone a nominal fee then I'll take back every negative thing I've said about this place, delete this thread, and give this place a positive review in the end.

Do you have a TlDR; version for this ?
Doesn't seem like a technical issue,move the thread to service discussion maybe.
Provide links for reference - Your main transaction -Mixers Address.
Link of the website you used for mixing.IIRC a fake version of bitblender has already scammer their customers.You could another victim.

This was no "stuck transaction".  I sent (I believe) $120 worth of BTC here to be mixed, and it was never received in my account.  I know it wasn't "stuck" as I could see in the Blockchain that it kept getting confirmed, and confirmed, and confirmed more... up to 42 times the last time I looked.  They were practically nagging Bitcoin Blender to take my money... yet it was never entered into my account here.

I left several messages asking for an explanation, and never received any response.  This was 4 days ago now.  And now that I go to look at the transaction in the Blockchain the BTC have been passed along... to someone, but not to me... not to my account here.  The only viable explanation is that Bitcoin Blender has stolen my BTC. 

I know that I used the correct receiving address.  I logged in here right before making the transaction to double check that the address hadn't changed.  And TRIPLE checked to make sure that I had the address correct, but that's really a moot point, it HAD to be correct because I copied and pasted it right from this site into a Wordpad document, and then copied and pasted it into the field at localbitcoin.com as well to send it here.  So it's impossible that I entered the wrong address.  And afterward my receiving address here at Bitcoin Blender changed, signifying that the prior one had indeed been used... that it realized that I indeed did make a transaction and it acknowledged that fact by assigning me a new address to use for the next time.

... yet the money never did make it here.  I of course did pay the mining fee.  The BTC never would have been confirmed a bazillion times in the Blockchain otherwise.

I would like an explanation as to exactly what happened to my bitcoins... where they are... and furthermore I want them.  I NEED them!  This is a very time sensitive issue that I get them where they need to be.  If I had known that I would have to endure this nightmare I never would have tried to mix them in the first place, I'd have just sent them where they were supposed to end up right away.  And unless I'm given a good explanation as to why this happened that illustrates a mistake on my end from now on I'll do just that, and never use a mixer again.

And the irony of this is that I write a very influential blog for the Deep Dot Web, mainly about Cryptocurrency.  And my next blog focuses on mixing/tumbling... whether it is necessary/beneficiary.  And am in the process of testing different sites to create a list of the best, and the worst tumbling sites.  I'm trying them more than just once to give a more accurate/objective assessment.  My plan was to make a small transaction first, and then a larger one second, as I've heard stories about the shady tumbling sites allowing your first transaction(s) to go through without a hitch, just waiting/depending on you to build up trust with them...  only to rob you later on when you make a larger transaction.  And I'm sorry to say that that appears to be precisely what happened here.  And I was prepared to put this site at, or at least toward the top of my list of the best based on my first transaction and because of many of the factors you can find on the Home page of this site.  But unless I'm given an explanation as to what happened and the situation is remedied Bitcoin Blender will instead find itself at the top of the other list...  of the ones to be avoided and not to be trusted.