Topic: 4,836 Hacked BTC from Binance laundered through Chipmixer (Read 917 times)

Troll is still enjoying the attention. Kick him out of the conversation and he will lose his interests.

No one talks about all the illegal activities are done used by fiat currency. Bitcoin existed and black money talk started and all the crime started to happen. Isn't it? Before satoshi the world was a beautiful place without any war, drag dealing, money laundering, sex trafficking, humen trafficking, child abuse. My three years old baby girl may believe it if everyone around me keep her away from the history.

You really don't know how the blockchain works, do you?


whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabo ut

The point was privacy and pointing out your blatant lie that one needs a "warrant" to see things on the blockchain. If you don't care about privacy - fine. Some people do and therefore use mixers, CoinJoin, privacy coins, etc.


Your obsession with nutildah is cringy.

I don't think the term "laced" is accurate, but if you replace the term "laced" with "contain trace amounts of" I would agree with the statement, based on this article and other information.

The fact is that hard currency (aka physical dollars) are frequently used for illicit purposes. Unlike bitcoin moving through CM, or any other mixer, it is very difficult to track dollars, especially if they never end up in the banking system. When I receive dollars from someone, although I don't think the dollars are the proceeds of some illegal activity, I really have no way of verifying this. Also, unless a dollar I receive is brand new, or nearly brand new, there is a high probability it was used for some illicit purpose between the time it was printed and when I received it.

@suchmoon should I correct him or you want to do the honors?

It is well known fact that 90% of all paper fiat money is laced with cocaine and other type of illegal drugs and narcotics, so how does it make you feel that you're getting paid with the commissions from the drug dealers, junkies and criminals?

Yea I should've taken every 'approach' you're built perfectly by default.

You must have wasted at least 10-20 minutes back-checking the history of my address but denied or overlooked the proof of LittleMouse, SmallRabbit, Hacker, RapTarx, ScumBoss.. the ones I provided and some other users, in any case, 'Nut nut nutty' wrote a full story on me and worldofcoins thinking you provided a Solid proof!!
Those shit stories are getting merits as if people merit the stuff what they want to believe rather than what's....., It's a shit show anyways.
Go check her thread, should be on 2nd page.

Maybe you should have taken the "having alt accounts is not against the rules" route. It's been quite obvious that this throwaway SmokerFace account is a sockpuppet and no one has really given much of a shit about it.

I didn't say anything about you owning the address. It could be owned by an exchange you deposit to, or any number of other possibilities. But if the shoe fits, feel free to wear it.

You left out people / corporations with a lot of time and money and resources.

NotATether is correct if you want real privacy there are other / better ways of doing it. I have posted in the past that there are better ways of getting your privacy then mixers. But, they are time consuming, require a lot more work and time and knowledge on your part and have larger risks of loosing your coins. And not for people who don't understand crypto.

As for why to use it some people like privacy some people like anonymity I even started a thread about it last week.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/privacy-vs-anonymity-5366195  that is why mixers exist.

Or, let's combine a casinos signature campaign with this one. There are many countries where BTC is fine but online gambling even if not illegal is frowned upon.
So, you can click on OGs signature and play for a while, and then withdraw. Now, do you want to have your BTC shown to be from someplace where it's really nor supposed to be from, or some generic coins.

Could go on and on with other reasons.


Disclosure for the future at the time of posting I am wearing the CM sig
Disclosure #2 for the future, there are at least 2 posters above me in this thread who know who I am / have my address so my privacy / anonymity is gone. Does not mean I don't think others should not have theirs.

-Dave

Nothing happened in the last 6 years.


Yes, that's what I meant, It's only a visible option for government agencies like the FBI to track you down.

A normal person would not need this high-tech privacy unless they're running from something really bad, Even then that "Bad person" will not be able to track the transactions made in Binance, Poloniex.

I mean there are limits on Exchanges and KYC is needed, But why would an Exchange give away the data of a user to some random person who happens to track down their Customer, They can only pass this information if the individual is a government official and has a warrant.

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Actually, I would've merited your Post but I don't have any atm. @Ognasty Thanks for merits 

Looks like you need a technical lesson [though I don't think you'll take the time to comprehend it].

Whenever someone sends bitcoins from a casino - doesn't matter which one it might as well be 1xbit or stake or bustabit - to an exchange, most of the time the coins invariably become "scummed" because most exchanges are using software that traces the bitcoins back to gambling.

Usually what happens next is that your coins, scummed or not scummed, are seized a la account termination based on some obscure clause in their terms of service.

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Actually this is not true. The FBI and other government agencies can track down your address at will, provided that they were on an exchange at some point. (That is how the 2020 Twitter scammers got caught and arrested).

If you want ultimate privacy, you should be looking at Monero and other Cryptonote coins with Ring confidential transactions (which are actually used by darknets, not to mention legit users).

I actually make more money off of my job as a cryptonote coin dev than wearing this sig, but I'm pretty sure you aren't going to be bashing me about that, are you (which is arguably, from your point of view, much more reprehensible than wearing a chipmixer sig).

Do you mean I sent to address "bc1q5x7zssejfd5nl74gtgd3f92u2wc4pjtues8yng" and whatever company or whoever owns that address sent it to "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5" where Worldofcoins sent their bitcoins in past Thus i own the address "3CX2reYLXJh1hACiA1i6qq9WFCSEUc7Ax5".

I'm glad this time I'm not the one making stories up
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If whoever owns that address sends those Bitcoins to Binance, Poloniex, Kraken, Bitfinex, then every Bitcoin those Exchanges have will come under "scummed" coins?
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Don't response the threads he creates, don't reply the posts he makes, give it a week and two. He will run out of ideas to keep you all busy. I wonder why all of you are even talking to him?

I was checking reputation board and he indeed is keeping it alive with all the negativity.

Bumping old threads which already lost relevancy, world is moving fast.
Accusing almost everyone for anything he can think about.
Showing F**k face to everyone
End of the week 1Xbit was paying him LOL

Yeah, I see he is not wearing a signature now. But, eventually he will go back to winter sleep until he finds another scam company to pay him dime.

May good fortune be with you, may your guiding light be strong - LZ

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You can choose to believe this, just as you choose to fawn and obsess over someone who calls themselves nutildah online. In fact, the degree of obsession is to an extent where I would be partial to believing you are a nutildah alt for the purpose of ego masturbation as opposed to someone trolling them.

I wonder: when you don't get enough attention, do you always dick-ride others until they provide it?

I don't need a warrant to see that you and worldofcoins sweep your campaign earnings to the same address at the same time.

Granted this might fall under "scummed" coins, what with you making money from a scam casino.

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What's the point? Can you name one road that was never used by a criminal?

Can you tell me 1 case of Bitcoin Mixers where it isn't used for Mix Scummed or Hacked Bitcoins/Altcoins but pure privacy? Let it be Hypothetical if you like.

Bitcoin is private enough already and no one IRL can trace your bitcoins unless you're stupid enough to moan about how many Bitcoins you own and prove to people around you.
Even if you disclose your bitcoin wallet address there's less than a 1% chance of them being able to trace everywhere those bitcoins went, It's hard enough already for Government Agencies to trace, what makes you think a normal Human without a warrant can do to trace someone's Bitcoins?

As you would say... "someone obviously has an obsession with me".

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Rather than [thoroughly] defending myself, again, and be forced to create a wall of text, I'll try to summarize... ad nauseam.

.. hope it helps someone out there:
OgNasty: Begins advertising for a gambling site 1 week after I provided proof directly to him that one of the owners was helping a long-time scammer on this forum by giving them a ranked account to conduct more scams. After seeing him start wearing their signature a week later, and inquiring further (while expressing my disgust), he told me the money was too good to pass up.
suchmoon: Advertises for a site intended to help people's privacy when sending coins. Someone, unrelated to suchmoon, used this service to do something illegal.

For me, these are not similar situations. Og tends to find illogical comparisons he can use to attack, mudsling, deflect, or simply to elicit a response he can mock.. or all of the above.. he's good at it. *shrug*

^ Disclaimer: This summary is my objective stance on these members and their use of signatures. It is done without factoring the potential accolades (or lack thereof) each member should really be acknowledged for, or frowned upon.

Spoiler alert: When I do factor these accolades in (or lack thereof):
My level of trust for suchmoon goes up.
My level of trust for OgNasty goes down.

.. facts don't care 'bout your feelings.

Even if you're saying the truth then read this quote.


Also, Please add SuchGay to that list along with GayHoo.

Both such each other dry.
Secret: Their sexual hunger is off human understanding so don't get close to them.

How does it make you feel that you are getting paid for your sig by a scam casino with scammed crypto?

I specifically did not endorse the proposal I brought forth. Automated tools could be used to detect if a transaction is associated with a theft/hack, and could act accordingly. I do agree that there are issues if it is not clear cut if the coin being sent is actually stolen, or even if a hack/theft even took place. This is why it is better to let the courts decide, and judgements could be enforced when someone tries to convert their coin to fiat (not stablecoin).

As I mentioned in my previous post, if you are moving 4k BTC through CM, for all intents and purposes, a competent professional blockchain analysis firm should be able to trace where the coin is withdrawn to.

I myself don't know the site is phishing, in my opinion if it leads to phishing, it needs to be told to the Bitcointalk community especially.

To prevent unwanted things, such as data, fraud or theft of email or documents.

It needs to be prevented, because the site is very easy to find in a google search.

Why are you sharing a bunch of phishing sites? Please don't do that!
Archived at loyce.club

Should've shared everything on the website rather than "Make you look image ONLY"

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Do I have to explain in detail the services on DarkMarket such as -

Illegal weapons, Drugs, ChildPorn, Hitman services, DOXing. Anyone?

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In Any case ChipMixer did receive a Minimum 4836 BTC from an exchange's funds called Binance It's another matter that owner of Binance didn't approve of the transaction.

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Imagine ChipMixer having 10,000 Bitcoins and a Well Known Hacker mixed their 10,000 BTC with ChipMixer's,

-FBI tracked those funds.
-Now ChipMixer using those Hacker's funds to make mix someone else's BTC.
-User who mixed their BTC through Chipmixer ends up getting a fraction of Hacker's Coins and attracts the FBI.
-Now FBI traces those funds to an Exchange he deposited and Gets a Legal warrant to get information on the user.
-Exchange has no Option but to co-operate "But where privacy"?
-Happens to arrest someone and waste their time "That's another story if they get released or not"
-And this doesn't happen to a single user.

[moderator's note: consecutive posts merged]

I'll just drop additional relevant material.

Chainalysis: Most Mixed Bitcoin Not Used for Illicit Purposes


Image source: https://e-cryptonews.com/chainalysis-most-mixed-bitcoin-not-used-for-illicit-purposes/

Wait, are you talking about Bitcoin? Or maybe you're talking about fiat money or even just any kind of money in general? Aren't you a gun advocate, despite knowing for a fact guns are used to murder people? Do you see the irony here, or should I call it hypocrisy?

Lol. Look who's now advertising an online casino.

Don't be harsh, some of it makes a lot of sense:

That would mean 1 BTC ≠ 1 BTC! It means you could never accept a payment without doing an investigation, and the evidence of a possible theft (possibly far up the blockchain) could be weak. What if someone claims you stole the Bitcoin he paid you?
I'd say that's a terrible slippery slope to enter.

That was not an opinion, that was a statement of fact. I can't really be bothered to give a fuck if anyone "supports" it, just pointing out when lying liars lie.

A few more from Og's chickenshit edit:


False.

Easy to verify by looking at OgNasty's trust page what the negative feedback is for.


False.

ibminer doesn't gamble.


False.

I have not partnered with ibminer in any crimes.


False.

I'm not advertising "money laundering schemes".

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Good effort by OgNasty to raise the bullshit-per-post average for this thread but he's got nothing on true walls-of-text legends like cryptohunter and nullius. Maybe they can come back for a Halloween zombietroll show.

The argument the OP seems to be making is something along the lines of that CM has profited from thieves using their services in the past, therefore those wearing the CM signature should resign their positions if they want to maintain credibility when discussing ethics. (This is not my personal stance, but rather is my reading of the OPs stance).

I don’t think there is evidence that CM profited from the theft/hack in question by mixing the stolen coin. Given the amount involved, I think a competent blockchain analysis firm could reasonably track the stolen coin through CM.

To answer your question as to what can be done, additional confirmations can be required and analysis can be done to ensure any coin being mixed is not stolen. Given 200-300 confirmations, could blockchain analysis detect stolen coin? Yes, probably. Is this a reasonable request? No I don’t think so, but this is up for debate. As I mentioned, with the amounts involved, blockchain analysis should be able to detect the outputs of the stolen coin in question.

I think the benefits that mixers give, such as giving privacy for those dealing with moderate amounts, outweighs the drawbacks of mixers (the additional difficulty in tracking stolen and/or illegitimately obtained coin).

You don't need to be angry about his comment.
Everybody must no support your opinion...hoping you are getting it now
I have an uncle here that can support anything scam...please pray I should not disclose his name

That's absurd. There have been many mixers advertised here over the years without any of this apocalyptic shit you just made up.

If any other signature campaign was advertising services like this, they would be attacked and trolled into non-existence on this forum.  Every user wearing the signature would be blasted with negative feedback, and possibly warning flags as well.  Why isn't this happening here you ask?  That's simple.  It's the guys that wear the chipmixer signatures that are the ones who do this to everyone else.  Now that they're wearing scam enabling signatures, all you get is them claiming they aren't responsible or deflecting and acting like nothing bad is happening.  Meanwhile these same individuals suck each other off on the trust network and with merit cycling.  Disgusting double standards...  

Edit: Funny that suchmoon's buddy ibminer left me negative feedback and has been trolling me for years over advertising a legitimate gambling site that he lost money using, but has no problem with his partner in crime suchmoon advertising money laundering schemes that have now been proven to launder illegally gotten funds for criminals...

Ask yourself why the self-described scam busters here are advertising operations that launder money for scams while the forum's position is not to moderate scams without coming to a nefarious conclusion...

Thanks for the honesty. by the way - I ask this question out of curiosity - on the other hand I also know that bitcoin can be used for good and evil - a real example in the country where I live this case occurred around 2019 - when bitcoin was misused as an illegal transaction due to its anonymity which is difficult to trace - someone is abusing to fund terrorist groups and other illicit transactions - this reminds me of the $25k SmallRabbit Scam - is there any chance he is using Chipmixer to monetize his scam there?
I don't question earnings when using Chipmixer signatures - that's your privacy and probably not a nice thing to say in public. I just want to know how the chipmixer works.

I'll be honest with you--I don't even know how Chipmixer works myself, but that's mostly because I'm too fucking stupid to understand the intricacies of things that can be done on blockchains.  I've picked up some knowledge over the years, but I never really had the time or the "tech intelligence" that it takes to understand how a service like Chipmixer works.  I'd admit to other things I'm ignorant about, but I don't feel like embarrassing myself even more.

As far as advertising for Chipmixer, I get SmokerFace's point, but it's kind of the same argument that bitcoin is bad because it's been used to buy drugs and all sorts of other illegal stuff.  From a campaigner's point of view, signature space is just being rented out in the same manner as a TV station selling ad spots to anyone that pays.  If what's being advertised is a known scam, then I have a problem with it--but just because a scammer used a service to launder money doesn't mean the service is in the wrong.  Perhaps they should have checked those incoming funds....but I really don't know how they do things.

What would your proposed solution be? Try to answer this question with a succinct response.

For example, KYC or identification-based structures defeat the purpose of the platform. Should it simply not exist, at all?

That settles things down a bit for me but not completely.

I don't want to delve into finances but they seem to be getting enough to pay for the campaign and their own profit.
To me, this Binance case is only a tip of the iceberg.



who r u again?

If you would read more before posting trolling, you would know that Chimpixer is for free, no commission involved, only donations.
I wanted to continue with "So you were saying what?", but no, I won't, since your answer doesn't matter to me. Trolls are trolls and should not be fed.

This covers how I feel about it pretty well:
And this:
And this:

Virtually anything on the planet can be used for good and evil. You choose your own path, but the fact that things can be abused doesn't mean we should stop using them! If you disagree: good luck with the gun lobby!

Neither do I, even if someone losing their life.

I don't even know what to say, other than facepalm.
It looks like you are born yesterday and you discovered the world.

Yes, coins control  


You receive interest from your bank accounts. How do you feel to receive money from companies involved in money laundering? Let me spin your sentence. You certainly talk a lot about morals and ethics but you accept the payment that came from the commissions of someone who did the wrong deeds, Anything in your defense?

I wonder if your goal is only to create dramas in the forum. I have news for you: people don't give a shit

What do you know happens to the Employers of Money Laundering services IRL?, What does the cops, government does to them?

Chipmixer main use is to have a privacy on your cryptocurrency. It's not there fault if someone use it for money laundering since there service is fully anonymous. You can compared it to Bitcoin, It is a cryptocurrency that use to send money to other people without the use of any third party services, But people can use it too on buying drugs and other illegal stuff, Does that mean that it was Bitcoin fault when it was used for illegal activities?

The same goes you receive your salary from your employer, you never know it's from legal or illegal.

I disagree, AFAIK Chipmixer doesn't have minimum fee because they use pay what you want [1] means you could mix the coins and pay 0% fees. So they didn't get any profit/commissions from the scammer, unless the scammer want give a donation.

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pay_what_you_want

SmokerFace: *Criticises ChipMixer**
PokerPlayer [DT]: *Compares with killing someone**
Flython: *Asks a question adding "High ranking member"
suchmoon aka suchgay aka Chipmixerpromoter: "these are going to one of those threads" **while denying the truth  
Smokerface: **wonders what kind of threads**  

SmokerFace found a good way to elicit responses so that he can keep posting bullshit without breaking the multiposting rule. AKA trolling. As long as we keep feeding the poor delusional creature, this will continue.


Well, if it isn't the vindictive account trading asshole. This is gonna be one of those threads, huh.

I still don't understand what Chipmixer is, as far as I can see there are some high ranking members using Chipmixer signature, I guess Chipmixer is like a typical bounty project? is this some kind of special exchange and only for people who want to sell some of the coins earned from hacking the exchange?

Who knows

How will they feel? The same as a cutlery manufacturer when a madman kills someone using a kitchen knife.

P.S: do you get paid extra for writing bullshit?

How does it make you feel @ChipMixer Promoters that you're paid with the Commissions from the hacker who used ChipMixer?


You guys certainly talk a lot about morals and ethics but you accept the payment that came from the commissions of someone who did the wrong deeds, Anything in your defence?

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The story is 2 yr Old.

Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/cnoruc/4836_hacked_btc_from_binance_laundered_through/

Article Source: https://coinworld360.com/hacked-btc-from-binance-laundered-through-chipmixer/



Process of how it was done: https://clain.io/blog/post/binance-hack-2019-deep-dive-into-the-money-laundering

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