Topic: 5 suspects Full members accounts on the same signature, Same Owner? (Read 578 times)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NCFXjZUwH7XQLhnKCZuQqUQjZSLCYUeFRkoIrhFGgB0/edit#gid=22155444

Suzukigsxr250
jesselui
elcezireex
Puyol
HiatusGG
xumit

Confirming this cheaters and reporting them for BAN evasion.
Read more information and proofs in this topic:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cheaters-ban-evasion-5199182

Just notice this screen, and guess what?

1 more account conneted

Suzukigsxr250.

Proof:
https://etherscan.io/token/0xf4065e4477e91c177ded71a7a6fb5ee07dc46bc9?a=0x984499cff33a132a577b2fc4a40386b60930a751


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NCFXjZUwH7XQLhnKCZuQqUQjZSLCYUeFRkoIrhFGgB0/edit#gid=22155444
            
Related Addresses:


Miscellaneous:

_________________________________________	_____________________	________________________________________________	___________________
ETH	ACCOUNTlink	ETH on forum	ARCHIVE
0x1cB444e6096f146991FA624c6B850148E0394665	Suzukigsxr250	https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/desicoio-bounty-6-000-000-4948249	http://archive.fo/Dqz7q#selection-3605.12-3598.7

Abusing bounties with alts.

The 1st screen is from one old bounty where those accounts have done an application. This is not the latest bounty they had participated on so now their signature it's gone, for a ban or because they remove it, but the application for the bounty is still there.


Absolutely not, I will not look for every bounty on the forum for every page and scroll for this particular.
I do not reconcile the motivation for which I struggled on one of these profiles, but I found myself on looking at the chronology of one and I found an ethereum address, and where I live se say "from what is born what".
As I consider myself a person who has an higher attention to the details then the avarage, I immediately noticed the anomaly, where a consecutive series of accounts have posted and after several months are all with the same new signature.


Here we can find also eclezireex with a ban

https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=elcezireex



I've included  elcezireex account for 2 reasons

1-

0x2aD2095C9a563fA4aa2bE6d23Af4B92C62aB9751   elcezireex   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46322488   http://archive.fo/heA2I#selection-3441.13-3441.55

With this address

https://etherscan.io/address/0x2ad2095c9a563fa4aa2be6d23af4b92c62ab9751#tokentxns

We can find a lot of transactions with

0x4288F22e8432241F5E49243b55885dC4328c444F   Puyol   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32914190   http://archive.fo/iu2gk#selection-6431.13-6431.55



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I've added one more old address for this user on post #8, I copy here the essential part


Where we can find more connections with some of the others accounts:

They have Roger's avatar^[1].

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It is not. Forum rules and trust system are 2 separate things.
They are bunch of cheaters who are systematically cheating other people, companies, giveaways etc. and I don't trust them, besides, their shitposting is waste of resources. Our, forum's, moderator's...
Isn't that waste of resources? Everyone can do due diligence therefore digging and exposing scammers is waste of resources. Even you wasted your most important resource to post this - time.

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/elcezireex-1030272
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=elcezireex

Waste of everyone's resources.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/xumit-1135680
https://bpip.org/profile.aspx?p=xumit


2/5 accounts are connected via merit, token transactions, banned, have joined Desico bounty one under one...

Cedex bounty spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1NCFXjZUwH7XQLhnKCZuQqUQjZSLCYUeFRkoIrhFGgB0/edit#gid=22155444


https://archive.fo/4afQL#selection-4641.0-4641.11 thread 

Having more accounts is ok, using on the same campaign where you can't use more than one account is against the rule and it's abusing the bounty.
90% of managers don't care about anything, and since almost none of them is tagged for negligence, the only way is to report abusers here.
Also, remember signature abusers are one of the main reason for the problem of spam on the forum.
You can never sure if one is guilty but we have DT members for this, you can never 100% sure of a crime neither in real life.
@Timelord2067 I will write the deep analysis this evening.

I do appreciate your work but let me ask, how is having multiple accounts against the forum rules?   based on this thread > https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/unofficial-list-of-official-bitcointalkorg-rules-guidelines-faq-703657

i don't see a single rule that prohibits having multiple accounts on the forum, it's only the rules of the signature campaign mangers, therefore it's their job to monitor the people wearing their signature, and even if someone was caught violating the signature campaign rules, how is that relevant to DT members tagging those people?  signature campaigns are one of the main reasons for the forum turning into mostly a shitpost place, why is it anybody's duty to protect the signature campaign rules? let them handle their own work, also given the fact that the majority of these camps belong to some shitcoins that will probably vanish "scam in a way or the other" i think it is a waste of resources trying to find the signature campaign abusers, we rather be digging deep on scammers instead. it is also hard to be 100% sure with just the proof you posted, there will be 100s of explanations by those users on how are you wrongly accusing them, even though chances you are right, it's just not enough evidence that you are 100% right.

Can you add an arrow to where their signature is? I can't see a signature in the screen grab you provided (your thread says "same signature") the title of their post would no doubt come from clicking "reply" hence it looks the same and as to their actual post they would have had to fill in this form:

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So I went to your link https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46321552 and found that it was archived: http://archive.vn/VaXQe on the second of Jan. I have also archived it again today. http://archive.vn/ojNsv

so... twenty posts on a page.

12 do not have any signature, eight posts do.

Of the eight posts that do have a signature, five are for Roger Ver. The remaining posts are one each for Desico, Mycro Jobs and lastly bitcoinair.org

Of the five posts for Rodger Ver...

turkmachiavelli posts twice. Firstly their signature details (post 2043 (1of5)), five minutes later secondly to add their Telegram details (post 2045 3of5)) with HiatusGG  (2of5) posting roughly half way during the five minute period.

40 minutes later Puyol (Post 2048 (4of5)) then 32 minutes after that Suzukigsxr250 (post 2049 (5of5)) a total of 1 hour 17 minutes from first of five to fifth of five posts. The fifth post appears to be for a lower level (member) campaigner Suzukigsxr250.

From first post 2014 at 30 September 2018, 04:34:24 to post 2060 at 30 September 2018, 15:59:24 takes eleven and a half hours. In that time *three* not five full members (and one member) with the same signature apply. (five posts; four UID's)

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Of the next twenty pages, there are barely a dozen posts that have a signature; the rest have none (12/400) (ie 3/100 ie 97%)

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You asked for an opinion...

... my opinion is I think you found a bounty and scrolled every page until you saw a handful of signatures that were for the same signature campaign and said "Gee, they must be the same because the majority (97%) don't have a signature."

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When I look at this:





I see nothing to connect any of them other than being registered in a three hour band of the day over a fifty day period.

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Just one last question:

In two separate posts 23 hours apart you've made the assertion there are five members of this ring:



I count four.

You say elcezireex is a member - based on what evidence? They don't have a signature and never have http://archive.vn/VaXQe#selection-3371.0-3471.55 (2nd Jan) and http://archive.vn/ojNsv#selection-2847.0-2853.55 (4th of Jan)

The three with gibberish in their Other Info *might* be connected on that basis alone, but as The Pharmacist said I've given up on ETH connections - not the least I won't touch ETH to start with, but because these connections are tenuous at best.

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Why did you add


to the list ??  Walk me through that thought process.

Go back and see if you can connect *just* the three full members with gibberish in their other info... Can you do that? Connect *just* those three?

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@rhomelmabini screen shots don't prove anything, and once the image provider decides to remove them, your "proof" is lost forever. Use an archive service such as archive.vn to archive your work - and use text to walk people through what they are looking at (your posts don't tell me anything)

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I'm now away for the week-end but will look back in on this thread early next week.

The evidence for this last account is really circumstantial, and is the only account on which I believe we may have doubts:
(New proofs added in this post.)

All of those accounts have an old post history in this section of the forum: Local / Konu Dışı
3/5 accounts have strange "other contact infos on profiles", idk what exactly are, can be EOS 12 numbers contract addresses? I've tried to search with EOS explorer but 0 results








In the end I've found some transactions,

https://etherscan.io/tx/0xd4ed1ea52d56df8a2083542830808cfcb60e5f82f7d23a87603766011e584d7e      


1 Random token , i guess airdrop token

From
0xD562f90Fb7bCD0cfc18411eEfc125C70447F6210   elcezireex
To
0x917090eAe3333670F2DD348B94846f010a734d85   jesselui
1 AMIS


Also Found one more right now, on this addy

https://etherscan.io/address/0x124c526d0ab8ef810f2f097d219dfbc0aa3cb2bc#tokentxns



0xd0e0e74ccf514f94222aafb3ac67ee948db31771
0x874d5efcbd0a8e116f8ba806eca894b59e33031a HiatusGG
0x917090eae3333670f2dd348b94846f010a734d85 jesselui

The
is a new address, the tokens seems from this bountyhive with no spreadsheet bounty, avaiable here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bounty-mossland-own-your-landmark-bountyhiveio-2955244

Also Noticed here for 0xd0e0e74ccf514f94222aafb3ac67ee948db31771



This bounty tokens is here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p2M4lF0dMFRihfytx-aoozRrySECRjFSGSua7t81TAw/edit#gid=2003622580

and from here I found



Not a suprice, 0xd0e0e74ccf514f94222aafb3ac67ee948db31771 seems to be another elcezireex's address.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p2M4lF0dMFRihfytx-aoozRrySECRjFSGSua7t81TAw/edit#gid=2003622580

On side note (not related to accounts listed in topic), I have received this PM from one business man:

70 people, well he's built a quite big office spam farm. I won't share author and picture(approximately 65 people are on it).

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The probability is not that high and many possible alts are enrolling in that campaign.

For example user Antony97 been merited by user mediation who is a "Favorite profiles to send sMerit to" of user elcezireex

You can see a post of Antony97 in that thread, next page of it. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46341762


I guess they really do teamwork for abusing alts in a campaign as well as abusing and generating around the sMerits.

It might not be a hard proof since merit is not moderated but I guess we can find some track base on that.

Could you alter this line. It is pretty racist in context with the photo shown.

Just call them abusive posters which reads lbetter and is more accurate.

Double LOL.  That was a pic someone sent me in a PM trying to prove they were a bounty hunting community:

Monkey is a slur for a black person, which those folks aren't, they're Inonesian or possibly Filipino, for which there are other racial slurs and what I wrote was not intended to be racist.  If you don't like my words, hit that good 'ol ignore button.  I'm not going to censor myself at the suggestion of anyone who isn't the boss of me.  No offense.

Lol, can't remember from where I have download it but I'm sure that it was from a guy who told like what you have said.



OP, nice catch. You are too good at finding alt. Keep up man.

I've quit trying to play ETH blockchain detective and have been misled by people's evidence in the past, based on my own ignorance.  If a trusted member can vouch for the connections you've made, I'll happily tag these guys. 

It could very well be possible they're connected and all in the same bounty--but you know exactly what they'll say:  "We're in a team/family, we're all part of the same network", etc., meaning they're on a shitposting farm wearing straw hats and more teeth than words they know in English (though I have not yet looked at their posts; I'm just projecting the outcome based on previous outcomes of situations like this).

I was looking here https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46321552 and immediately I noticed this, THIS is strange, 5 consecutive posts in one old bounty with a new signature, the same one!
The odds are very low.



5 Account PROBABLY connected

elcezireex, HiatusGG, xumit, Puyol, jesselui,

Proof:
https://etherscan.io/token/0x88652845a5495983b70aebbf25102361552d5e54?a=0x4288f22e8432241f5e49243b55885dc4328c444f      

      
https://etherscan.io/tokentxns?a=0x4288f22e8432241f5e49243b55885dc4328c444f&p=1      

      
https://etherscan.io/tx/0xd4ed1ea52d56df8a2083542830808cfcb60e5f82f7d23a87603766011e584d7e      


https://etherscan.io/address/0x2ad2095c9a563fa4aa2be6d23af4b92c62ab9751#tokentxns
      
      
Related Addresses:

The use differents address on their history I've found links beetween these so far


Miscellaneous:

_________________________________________	_____________________	________________________________________________	___________________
ETH	ACCOUNTlink	ETH on forum	ARCHIVE
0xD562f90Fb7bCD0cfc18411eEfc125C70447F6210	elcezireex	https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.36614677	http://archive.fo/CtQKe#selection-1851.13-1846.4
0x2aD2095C9a563fA4aa2bE6d23Af4B92C62aB9751	elcezireex	https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46322488	http://archive.fo/heA2I#selection-3441.13-3441.55
0x874D5Efcbd0A8E116f8bA806ECa894B59E33031a	HiatusGG	https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46321552	http://archive.fo/ojNsv#selection-1941.13-1941.55
0x984499cFF33a132a577B2fc4A40386B60930A751	xumit	https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.46321982	http://archive.fo/hqBMx#selection-3275.13-3275.55
0x4288F22e8432241F5E49243b55885dC4328c444F	Puyol	https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.32914190	http://archive.fo/iu2gk#selection-6431.13-6431.55
0x917090eAe3333670F2DD348B94846f010a734d85	jesselui	https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/desicoio-bounty-campaign-4381230	http://archive.fo/wE5x3#selection-17243.13-17243.55

Abusing bounties with alts? What do you think?