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An anticapitalist (wikipedia says so) who likes bitcoin? Can you explain that?  Huh Either you are plain wrong and dont know what real capitalism means, or you are confused about the values that bitcoin represents: free market, free trade, right to private property, individual freedom, etc... CAPITALISM in its more pure expression (libertarian, ancap, etc)

I get the impression you think crony capitalism is capitalism, when they're not the same. Not bashing around, I'm just curious as to what your position is in this story, and what you expect of bitcoin.

For me Bitcoin is freedom from controls, and freedom to exchange globally.. If you trade to make rich, you can do, right, but if we trade to build a cooperative society, we can do, also. Bitcoin could be better, but more of less is neutral between capitalist and anarchist punt of view. It depends how do you use it..

We, in the Cooperativa integral catalana, not are going to use bitcoin internally because we have better aproach to do it (social currencies, direct exchange, reciprocity, and others) but bitcoin its so better from bankers money to be used externally to trade with other coops and people of the world.

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enric

Well, that's the kind of capitalism many libertarians believe in.

So... welcome to capitalism, Enric Wink

¿Has leído a Félix Rogrigo Mora? Él también llama capitalismo al concepto de capitalismo depredador de concentración (en mi opinión de forma equivocada) pero muchos de sus preceptos se adaptan perfectamente al ideario ancap voluntarista y cooperativista. Un modelo de macroestado socialista o comunista no es posible cuando la gente puede llevar a cabo el grueso de sus transacciones de forma completamente independiente al Estado, y fuera de su control. En cierto modo un macroestado es incompatible con un alto nivel de libertad económica.

Un saludo.
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An anticapitalist (wikipedia says so) who likes bitcoin? Can you explain that?  Huh Either you are plain wrong and dont know what real capitalism means, or you are confused about the values that bitcoin represents: free market, free trade, right to private property, individual freedom, etc... CAPITALISM in its more pure expression (libertarian, ancap, etc)

I get the impression you think crony capitalism is capitalism, when they're not the same. Not bashing around, I'm just curious as to what your position is in this story, and what you expect of bitcoin.

For me Bitcoin is freedom from controls, and freedom to exchange globally.. If you trade to make rich, you can do, right, but if we trade to build a cooperative society, we can do, also. Bitcoin could be better, but more of less is neutral between capitalist and anarchist punt of view. It depends how do you use it..

We, in the Cooperativa integral catalana, not are going to use bitcoin internally because we have better aproach to do it (social currencies, direct exchange, reciprocity, and others) but bitcoin its so better from bankers money to be used externally to trade with other coops and people of the world.

regards
enric
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Capitalism is often a metonimy for both predatory capitalism and crony capitalism.

It's just a confusing word nowadays because of this. It's best not to give too much importance to the semantic front.
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An anticapitalist (wikipedia says so) who likes bitcoin? Can you explain that?  Huh Either you are plain wrong and dont know what real capitalism means, or you are confused about the values that bitcoin represents: free market, free trade, right to private property, individual freedom, etc... CAPITALISM in its more pure expression (libertarian, ancap, etc)

I get the impression you think crony capitalism is capitalism, when they're not the same. Not bashing around, I'm just curious as to what your position is in this story, and what you expect of bitcoin.
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Bona sort i força!!

Somos más y mejores. La casta politico bancaria a la picota.
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Bona sort, Enric.
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Five years after the publication of "Crisi" and the anouncement of a bank expropriation of 492,000 euros, Enric Duran considers legal action for violation of his rights of defense while preparing a project of restorative justice.

In a statement published today, 17 of September, on the 5th anniversary of the publication of "Crisi" which carried the announcement of his expropriation, Enric Duran says that he is "thinking about carrying out legal action against the daily infringement of my defence rights".

He states that the right of information, choice of witnesses and choice of lawyer have all been breeched.

“It looks as if - says Enric - the second section of the Provincial Court of Barcelona has invented a new law against all odds, saying that an accused who is in hiding loses his fundamental rights in relation to the process of defence”

For Duran, the reasons that justified that action announced on the 17th of September 2008, have not been fallen in to prescription. For this reason he says that he will continue “providing support to other initiatives who seek to act similarly. For the same reason I have not given up taking advantage of and poking new holes in this banking system's whose only aim is to get profits out of people's savings”
According to the statement: “Spanish police is now hunting me not only for the action explained in 2008, but also for another one, although smaller, realised in 2011”.

In the press release he also analized some current affair events concluding  that "encripting, the bitcoin and the 3D printers are spearheads of a whole range of revolutionary technologies that are only just starting to enhance the freedom of individuals and organized networks, putting a sell by date on the hegemony of the State-nation as we have known them in the last decades”.

Faced with these challenges, Enric Duran considers that “those who work for an integral revolution that includes the building of new structures of social and political self-organization and at the same time for a deep transformation of human being that recover value of community, have an even bigger challenge ahead than we had imagined”.  In this sense, Duran announces the relaunch of the collective RADI, created half a year ago.

Link to full statement: http://www.enricduran.cat/en/statementS172013

See also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enric_Duran
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