yah this raises my eye brows. could this be ASIC testing for reals? why would they test on the live network tho? :/
What could be ASIC mining?
BFL hardware burn in?
I meant what was the indicator that led him to believe ASICs might be mining?
Topic: 50% hashing power = unknown... are u scared yet? (Read 4170 times)
What could be ASIC mining?
BFL hardware burn in?
I meant what was the indicator that led him to believe ASICs might be mining?
yah this raises my eye brows. could this be ASIC testing for reals? why would they test on the live network tho? :/
What could be ASIC mining?
BFL hardware burn in?
yah this raises my eye brows. could this be ASIC testing for reals? why would they test on the live network tho? :/
What could be ASIC mining?
yah this raises my eye brows. could this be ASIC testing for reals? why would they test on the live network tho? :/
Ummm... Money?
yah this raises my eye brows. could this be ASIC testing for reals? why would they test on the live network tho? :/
I was scared. But hen I read the posts. Now I can sleep.
Also is this evidence they are burning in the ASICS !!!???
Also is this evidence they are burning in the ASICS !!!???
gmaxwell went out of his way to make a sticky on this
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dont-believe-everything-you-read-on-blockchaininfo-about-block-sources-123726
I know 'unknown" currently has all of Ozcoin's stratum blocks, if this is happening with other known pools mining stratum blockchain.info will be even less accurate than usual.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/dont-believe-everything-you-read-on-blockchaininfo-about-block-sources-123726
I know 'unknown" currently has all of Ozcoin's stratum blocks, if this is happening with other known pools mining stratum blockchain.info will be even less accurate than usual.
P2Pool is accounted for, it's in with the 3rd tier pools.
I don't see it mentioned in anyone's graph.
P2Pool is accounted for, it's in with the 3rd tier pools.
I don't see it mentioned in anyone's graph.
P2Pool is accounted for, it's in with the 3rd tier pools.
p2pool not accounted for?
...and it has quite a noteworthy share.
p2pool not accounted for?
Accurate:
ohh all the drama 
could it be russians botnets?
could it be russians botnets?
The other (more accurate, IMO) chart still has Deepbit in a close 3rd place.
http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/top.php
Blockchain has never done Deepbit properly.
http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/top.php
Blockchain has never done Deepbit properly.
They ain't hashing cau it isn't a perfect roi. If dey sell it it's already made profit. Aka they are wary of the bitcoin and think it not a great place to invest. But they also think we are easy to sell to.
It's interesting to me that deepbit had the biggest part on that pie chart and now it's just average...
Interesting, thanks for the answer 
Come down, a big part is only the ETH Zuerich www.ethz.ch/.
And they are not mining, they are simply running a (super) node (IP: 82.130.102.160) with their University Internet access. Their Node has nearly 1500 connections to other nodes, including a direct connection to blockchain.info.
Therefore they are able do distribute fund blocks faster through the network than the miner himself.
See the big orange spot here: https://blockchain.info/nodes-globe?series=topBlockRelay that's them.
So everything is alright.
And they are not mining, they are simply running a (super) node (IP: 82.130.102.160) with their University Internet access. Their Node has nearly 1500 connections to other nodes, including a direct connection to blockchain.info.
Therefore they are able do distribute fund blocks faster through the network than the miner himself.
See the big orange spot here: https://blockchain.info/nodes-globe?series=topBlockRelay that's them.
So everything is alright.
Wow, quite a nice link
Just wondering,
1- Mining on a pool does not count as a node... true ?
2- Running a bitcoin client 24/7 with 8 connections, this is a node ? ( If yes, I can see my lonely tiny blue bar on that cute globe
quite interesting and funny ! )I'll enjoy an answer to both question ( I presume : yes and yes)!
Yes and yes. (But the pool itself is a node)
But on that globe you see only nodes that have a direct connection to blockchain.info. Its pretty unlikely, that you have one if you only have 8 connections. I have between 30 and 50 (always somewhere between that) and have never seen my IP in blockchains IP list.
Come down, a big part is only the ETH Zuerich www.ethz.ch/.
And they are not mining, they are simply running a (super) node (IP: 82.130.102.160) with their University Internet access. Their Node has nearly 1500 connections to other nodes, including a direct connection to blockchain.info.
Therefore they are able do distribute fund blocks faster through the network than the miner himself.
See the big orange spot here: https://blockchain.info/nodes-globe?series=topBlockRelay that's them.
So everything is alright.
And they are not mining, they are simply running a (super) node (IP: 82.130.102.160) with their University Internet access. Their Node has nearly 1500 connections to other nodes, including a direct connection to blockchain.info.
Therefore they are able do distribute fund blocks faster through the network than the miner himself.
See the big orange spot here: https://blockchain.info/nodes-globe?series=topBlockRelay that's them.
So everything is alright.
Wow, quite a nice link
Just wondering,
1- Mining on a pool does not count as a node... true ?
2- Running a bitcoin client 24/7 with 8 connections, this is a node ? ( If yes, I can see my lonely tiny blue bar on that cute globe
quite interesting and funny ! )I'll enjoy an answer to both question ( I presume : yes and yes)!
Come down, a big part is only the ETH Zuerich www.ethz.ch/.
And they are not mining, they are simply running a (super) node (IP: 82.130.102.160) with their University Internet access. Their Node has nearly 1500 connections to other nodes, including a direct connection to blockchain.info.
Therefore they are able do distribute fund blocks faster through the network than the miner himself.
See the big orange spot here: https://blockchain.info/nodes-globe?series=topBlockRelay that's them.
So everything is alright.
And they are not mining, they are simply running a (super) node (IP: 82.130.102.160) with their University Internet access. Their Node has nearly 1500 connections to other nodes, including a direct connection to blockchain.info.
Therefore they are able do distribute fund blocks faster through the network than the miner himself.
See the big orange spot here: https://blockchain.info/nodes-globe?series=topBlockRelay that's them.
So everything is alright.
I just don't understand the point in selling those machines when they could easily hook thousands up themselves and keep the profit. It'd be like giving away a cash machine.
Simple! They give it away once it's no cash machine any more (when difficulty is sky high). That's after they have mined for a couple of month - in Feb/Mar 2013. Which means the next 3-4 month we get lots of lame excuses from BFL why they can't ship.
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So BFL will mine for 2-3 month (delaying shipments with some lame excuses from October to November, from November to December, etc.) making shitloads of money. And after that sell/ship their ASICs.
My first thought when I read this thread. By the time it comes to ship them out the difficulty will have been effected by them mining but by then they've already made thousands and who knows maybe even millions from mining and pre-orders.
I just don't understand the point in selling those machines when they could easily hook thousands up themselves and keep the profit. It'd be like giving away a cash machine.
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So BFL will mine for 2-3 month (delaying shipments with some lame excuses from October to November, from November to December, etc.) making shitloads of money. And after that sell/ship their ASICs.
My first thought when I read this thread. By the time it comes to ship them out the difficulty will have been effected by them mining but by then they've already made thousands and who knows maybe even millions from mining and pre-orders.
I just don't understand the point in selling those machines when they could easily hook thousands up themselves and keep the profit. It'd be like giving away a cash machine.
Is it possible to have an historical version of that graph?
Good point! I was also looking for this kind of information (nothing found so far) for a definitive proof.
But I (manually) observed this increase over the last few weeks - going from 35% to 39% to 40% ... and not 43%.
IMHO there is someone mining with ASICS. I assume it's BFL. There have been accusations before - and they denied it. But I'm pretty confident their ASICs are ready to go - and already started mining.
So BFL will mine for 2-3 month (delaying shipments with some lame excuses from October to November, from November to December, etc.) making shitloads of money. And after that sell/ship their ASICs.
Block finding is up 11% in the past four days, since the record difficulty change of 3,072,322. Somebody definitely turned something on.
This is the bulk of the unknown mining as shown in the pie chart: relayed by 82.130.102.160. However the blockchain.info is not reliable, I was able to verify many of those "mystery" blocks are 50BTC blocks by looking at their pool solved blocks list. The links above were 100% correct on 50BTC blocks for the same period.
This is the bulk of the unknown mining as shown in the pie chart: relayed by 82.130.102.160. However the blockchain.info is not reliable, I was able to verify many of those "mystery" blocks are 50BTC blocks by looking at their pool solved blocks list. The links above were 100% correct on 50BTC blocks for the same period.
Almost sure that this one is the Swiss researcher mining with their university supercomputer (search for previous post about this)
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Block finding is up 11% in the past four days, since the record difficulty change of 3,072,322. Somebody definitely turned something on.
This is the bulk of the unknown mining as shown in the pie chart: relayed by 82.130.102.160. However the blockchain.info is not reliable, I was able to verify many of those "mystery" blocks are 50BTC blocks by looking at their pool solved blocks list. The links above were 100% correct on 50BTC blocks for the same period.
This is the bulk of the unknown mining as shown in the pie chart: relayed by 82.130.102.160. However the blockchain.info is not reliable, I was able to verify many of those "mystery" blocks are 50BTC blocks by looking at their pool solved blocks list. The links above were 100% correct on 50BTC blocks for the same period.
You can see right away that there is a flaw...it says unknown...then other unknown...how do they know? 
Please do your homework before posting FUD. Blockchain.info's way of collecting this data is far from perfect.
I would recommend checking out http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php
If you like pie charts better, http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/chart.php
Please read the block origin site to better understand why Blockchain.info's data collection methods are borked.
I would recommend checking out http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/blocklist.php
If you like pie charts better, http://blockorigin.pfoe.be/chart.php
Please read the block origin site to better understand why Blockchain.info's data collection methods are borked.
Srsly?
timbers
Is it possible to have an historical version of that graph?
*Shudder*
Good lord.
http://static.blockchain.info/pools.png?format=png
Doesn't that scare u ?
OK the "Unknown" could be, and probably is, several people and not just one.
But I suspect SOMEONE is mining with ASICs .. !
Doesn't that scare u ?
OK the "Unknown" could be, and probably is, several people and not just one.
But I suspect SOMEONE is mining with ASICs .. !
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