Topic: 6th / s goal! antiminer 3xS4 VS spondoolies SP 35 ?? (Read 2446 times)

Recommended for power  TH/s which have a ROI?

Okay come on. This is why so many rookies turn away from Bitcoin and all the cryptocurrency..

Look here's the truth, no one can "predict" exactly what difficulty we'll be at in 6 days, 6 weeks, much less 6 months. Yet, there are two ways to make "profit."

One is to simply buy the bitcoins, and wait until the price goes up. Just remember, in 2013 BTC was at about $12 per BTC... Some people made some SERIOUS profit when they purchased bitcoins before they were even in the double digits.. So, it's still possibly to do that, but obviously the return wont be as great because the current BTC is at ~$385 USD.

The other way is similar to the above one, except that this is what we've been talking about. Mining you bitcoins. Simply get an ASIC that has good wattage/gh (usually anything below 1.0 watts/gh is acceptable, the newer ones can range from anything 0.5 to 0.8 watts/gh). This is CRUCIAL because someone has to pay the electricity bills right? Nobody gets "free" electricity. Even if you install solar powered or even wind powered, you'll have to pay upfront for this & maintenance, etc. But, the thing about mining is that you can keep getting Bitcoins. That's how mining and purchasing are different. And if all else fails you can sell the miner, and make a little extra down the road

So, obviously, no one can tell you when you'll hit ROI, if BTC will go up or down, heck back in 2013 (about a year ago) the big players, BFL, KNC, etc. did "pre-orders" jesus was that a scam. Honestly SOME companies kept their promise and delivered. those that got their ASICS first got the big profits.. If you could afford those prices. KNC for example made some of the most powerful miners.. except they've had a serious issue, and still do to this date, with the ASIC cores.. they say that anywhere withing a 20% failure of cores is "acceptable"...

Anyway, it's up to you how you play your game. But I can tell you this, with a pretty good certainty, you won't make your ROI with an ASIC at this btc price. Specially because you won't pull your BTC every hour and sell it for USD.. Pull the BTC away from mining pools (thumb rule) and keep it in a (preferably software) BTC wallet, and as I said, wait for a spike

No way, unless your landlord or someone pays the bills..

As aggressive as seriouscoin was he has a point. The "goal of mining is to keep the coins, wait for a good/high spike (like we had a year ago when btc hit $1k good times.. non the less think about it. Are you just going to sell every penny of a bitcoin that you get as it comes in..?

You mine. You hold it. You wait for a spike.

How much are you willing to spend. I'll be nice and help you out. Just remember that the higher the investment, the higher the returns. Give me a half hour ill draw up something for ya. And tell me if you're including the price of PSU's.

Just not I'm not accountable for any loss but ill welcome profit you're willing to share haha

Isnt your goal supposed to be holding X amount of BTCs? Only idiots set their goals to be X hashrate in a network of never ending increasing.

So no Roi possible even with these miners ?

Never, when got whit regular prices.  You will not even come close to roi.

It is why I pushed him towards the long tubes. they should run on evga 1300 psu's

Using the given s[ecs, you'll find that the SP 35 has more gh/s than the AntMiner S4, even if you multiplied the s4's by three the SP 35 gives you a much greater profit. Here check it out, (this uses a 26% increment in difficulty per month, with 13 being the average for every 2 weeks.)
https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/1545a442ce
The thing is though, you can't make an ROI. The network is too based on large-farms, those that have cheap access and plenty of starting money to purchase large volumes of goods. Hence why the companies sell cheaper if you buy more. Because they know that this is how it works, and also allows them to sell to re-sellers and the large farms.. It's how the system works.

Until someone figures out a cheap and powerful rig that is only available at 1 per costumer.. Us single-home miners are stuck out of the game..

Of course, then with the sp35 comes the big problem.. How do you power a 3500w 208v rig.. Can you even power that from home? Only the A/C, water heating that I can think of require such power..

Thanks, this explained a lot to me.

why pick from those two miners? 
if you buy asic miner long tubes 5x 1.4 th = 7th cost 
5x 1.47btc = 7.35 coins
you buy psu's and shipping  you are at 9.35 coins   make it 10 coins.  watts 5k


3 s-4's = 10.505 coins shipped to NJ USA   you get 6th hash you get known psu problems. watts around 4k


the sp 35 is 4220 shipped to NJ that is 10.79 coins for 6th  watts ? maybe 3500k

so the asicminer tubes are less money up front for 7th they burn a bit more juice. but all three deals look to be just a bit short.

This is what I'm seeing:  https://tradeblock.com/mining/a/353a3760ca

step 1:  Discover Difficulty (turning your ROI into a shrinking moving target into the foreseeable future towards zero) (today )
step 2:  Stop using advice and calculations from 10-12 months ago
step 3:  Determine estimated power consumption costs from all ur units (electricity is free is usually unacceptable as someone is paying the cost somewhere - your job, your landlord, you in an upfront solar installation) 
step 4:  Open an account with Circle.com or Coinbase.com
step 5:  Buy BTC each month in the amount you would have spent on electricity cost
step 6:  Buy a 3d printer kit (this will give you something physical to fulfill your 'tinkering' aspect of mining)
step 7:  Wait amount of time
step 8:  PROFIT!!!!!!!

You won't ROI forever...

https://alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator

hi!

I need some advice ..
6th / s goal ..
I recommended 1 x spondoolies SP35  6TH / s or n.3 antiminer S4 (2TH / s x 3 = 6 TH/s) ?

In how many days can I calculate the ROI of the investment before you start to undermine the positive?

thanks everyone for the help