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What I say comes from my personal experience. Russians are heavily involved in Ponzi projects and many projects are created by them.
If we pay attention to crypto, we will see very few crypto projects from Russia, only a few successful projects and long-term commitments. WAVES is a typical project.
Russian developers are very talented and why only WAVES, did you forget the Ethereum project and Vitalik Buterin?

Telegram project as well. Russia has big developer communities and they are big country too. They have big contributions not only in crypto, blockchain technology but also in other industries and other areas of human civilization.

I don't think the Ponzi scheme should be blamed on Russian developers and we should not consider them as bad because of Ponzi. Ponzi exists everywhere. You can not say Bitcoin is bad because bad guys abuse Bitcoin for their Ponzi projects.

Ponzi exists everywhere. I agree with that.
Ethereum is a project from the US.
Telegram is a project from Russia but they are no longer registered in Russia. They move constantly so that they do not have to be controlled by any country.
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What I say comes from my personal experience. Russians are heavily involved in Ponzi projects and many projects are created by them.
If we pay attention to crypto, we will see very few crypto projects from Russia, only a few successful projects and long-term commitments. WAVES is a typical project.
Russian developers are very talented and why only WAVES, did you forget the Ethereum project and Vitalik Buterin?

Telegram project as well. Russia has big developer communities and they are big country too. They have big contributions not only in crypto, blockchain technology but also in other industries and other areas of human civilization.

I don't think the Ponzi scheme should be blamed on Russian developers and we should not consider them as bad because of Ponzi. Ponzi exists everywhere. You can not say Bitcoin is bad because bad guys abuse Bitcoin for their Ponzi projects.
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I don't know where you get that information, as a scam and any Ponzi Scheme will happen anywhere, we all can be a source of that.

Well, It was the people from Russia who got more interest in Bitcoin. They say Bitcoin is more profitable base on what they have experience and we've experienced it as well. I'm not going to be surprised as this investment has become known to most of us and on the internet.

What I say comes from my personal experience. Russians are heavily involved in Ponzi projects and many projects are created by them.
If we pay attention to crypto, we will see very few crypto projects from Russia, only a few successful projects and long-term commitments. WAVES is a typical project.
The Bitcoin and crypto participation of the people of Russia also comes from their experience. I agree with that.
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Investing in gold is quite low return and it is like stable coin. Forex investing with high risk and return cannot be more attractive than Bitcoin.
As far as I know and my own experience, the majority of Ponzi investment websites are from Russia and they are holding a large amount of Bitcoin.
Russians also like to invest in things with great returns. Almost everyone likes Bitcoin, not just Russia.
I don't know where you get that information, as a scam and any Ponzi Scheme will happen anywhere, we all can be a source of that.

Well, It was the people from Russia who got more interest in Bitcoin. They say Bitcoin is more profitable base on what they have experience and we've experienced it as well. I'm not going to be surprised as this investment has become known to most of us and on the internet.
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Investing in gold is quite low return and it is like stable coin. Forex investing with high risk and return cannot be more attractive than Bitcoin.
As far as I know and my own experience, the majority of Ponzi investment websites are from Russia and they are holding a large amount of Bitcoin.
Russians also like to invest in things with great returns. Almost everyone likes Bitcoin, not just Russia.
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I think the creation of their own digital currency is an alternative to their people's trust in the government rather than having to take risks to enter the crypto market.
I think the attitude shown is also not wrong. because indeed in the crypto market we know how big the risk is for new people with no investment experience.
most crypto users in Russia will probably feel it. how to invest in the crypto market or another more profitable investment market.
They try to use the blockchain technology and renew their fiat currencies with CBDCs. It does not change the basics of their currencies, decreasing power over time. Purchasing power of the US. Dollar over time. Other fiat currencies have same trend because all fiat currencies are hyperinflated. They are controlled by governments that try to print as many as possible.

Yeah.. authoritarian countries such as China, Russia and India have this wet dream of replacing Bitcoin with their CBDC shitcoin. But these regimes fail to understand that fiat based coins can never act as a replacement for cryptocurrencies. The main attractiveness of Bitcoin is that it is protected against inflation. CBDCs are similar to fiat currency in this aspect and therefore they are not protected against inflation. No one will be ready to use these shitcoins, even if the regimes force people to use them. 
Their CBDCs will make noise and when citizens have experience with their CBDCs, they will feel good with digital currencies. It will help them realize that what governments said about Bitcoin and crypto is wrong. They will gradually move from CBDCs to Bitcoin and real cryptocurrencies.

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Although Russian investors are increasing betting on cryptocurrencies, the country's central bank continues to maintain a tough stance on crypto. In June, the Governor of the Bank of Russia, Elvira Nabiullina, named crypto as one of the most dangerous investment tools available today. While skeptical about private cryptocurrencies, Russia's central bank is currently focusing on developing the digital ruble, the central bank's digital currency project. The Russian bank is expected to enter trials in 2022.

Yeah.. authoritarian countries such as China, Russia and India have this wet dream of replacing Bitcoin with their CBDC shitcoin. But these regimes fail to understand that fiat based coins can never act as a replacement for cryptocurrencies. The main attractiveness of Bitcoin is that it is protected against inflation. CBDCs are similar to fiat currency in this aspect and therefore they are not protected against inflation. No one will be ready to use these shitcoins, even if the regimes force people to use them. 
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Although Russian investors are increasing betting on cryptocurrencies, the country's central bank continues to maintain a tough stance on crypto. In June, the Governor of the Bank of Russia, Elvira Nabiullina, named crypto as one of the most dangerous investment tools available today. While skeptical about private cryptocurrencies, Russia's central bank is currently focusing on developing the digital ruble, the central bank's digital currency project. The Russian bank is expected to enter trials in 2022.
I think the creation of their own digital currency is an alternative to their people's trust in the government rather than having to take risks to enter the crypto market.
I think the attitude shown is also not wrong. because indeed in the crypto market we know how big the risk is for new people with no investment experience.
most crypto users in Russia will probably feel it. how to invest in the crypto market or another more profitable investment market.
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Although Russian investors are increasing betting on cryptocurrencies, the country's central bank continues to maintain a tough stance on crypto. In June, the Governor of the Bank of Russia, Elvira Nabiullina, named crypto as one of the most dangerous investment tools available today. While skeptical about private cryptocurrencies, Russia's central bank is currently focusing on developing the digital ruble, the central bank's digital currency project. The Russian bank is expected to enter trials in 2022.
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is now increasingly popular among Russian investors. Recent surveys even claim that Russian investors are now increasingly choosing crypto investments over gold or forex. A local self-regulatory organization focused on the foreign exchange market, the Russian Association of Forex Dealers (AFD), recently conducted a survey of 502 investors. related to their interest in cryptocurrencies. As a result, nearly 77% of respondents said that cryptocurrencies such as Bitcoin, Ether (ETH), and Litecoin (LTC) are investments that have prospects in the future. Only 8.8% of respondents stated that they view gold as a the best investment, while 14% prefer forex or currencies.
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I am Russian and I can say that it is easier to enter the crypto market than to enter the forex or stock market. As sometimes you just need qualified investor status, sometimes you need to have a minimum amount of money which is also usually a quite big amount to start. Young guys are really in favour of progressive bitcoin. Moreover, I work in the crypto market and haven’t had to pay taxes yet, but with gold and forex there is an opposite situation.

When we invest in gold, forex, or stocks that have been officially registered by the state, of course there is strict supervision and an obligation to pay taxes, this is certainly inconvenient for beginners who have small money so crypto is the best solution to learn and start investing.

while true they are misled by the information that crypto couldn't be taxed. since Russia has a tight stance on Bitcoin, it will likely have stiff regulation on the crypto market upon seeing this result.

Bitcoin has been I'm the news every day. if the investors have heard of it before where BTC is bad-mouthed, they'd be more curious as to why it's on the news over and over. seeing BTC as a hedge to inflation makes investors interested more than the negative news about it.
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I am Russian and I can say that it is easier to enter the crypto market than to enter the forex or stock market. As sometimes you just need qualified investor status, sometimes you need to have a minimum amount of money which is also usually a quite big amount to start. Young guys are really in favour of progressive bitcoin. Moreover, I work in the crypto market and haven’t had to pay taxes yet, but with gold and forex there is an opposite situation.

When we invest in gold, forex, or stocks that have been officially registered by the state, of course there is strict supervision and an obligation to pay taxes, this is certainly inconvenient for beginners who have small money so crypto is the best solution to learn and start investing.
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23% of population that doesn't like or really know anything about bitcoin is boomers. They could care less if there already wealthy because there old and they just don't care about the new kind of investment like bitcoin, just look at Warren Buffet he said he just doesn't understand it.
We do not know the truth if Warren Buffet does not understand bitcoin or used bitcoin as his investment secretly.
But if bitcoin becomes popular, that can attract more people to use bitcoin as their investment.
Maybe those people need to accept a new thing that starts popular in other places and try by themselves so they can know if bitcoin is a scam or it can really help people make money.
If they are already wealthy, that does not mean they do not want to get more money, especially if they decide to invest in bitcoin.
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That is new learning for me. Considering 77% is huge number in any country at this point. So the day won’t be far from this point where Russia will be 100% in the crypto ventures and the infrastructure will be developed full fledged. May be this will make America to think about the crypto adoption and gain the power in a race of developments. I am saying this from the past experience where America always wanted to be ahead of Russia when there was time to reach the moon and launch the first manned mission. This race and urge to be ahead of that country made America go crazy about space programmes. Let’s be honest this can be true with the crypto adoption too and overall effect? Well rest of the countries get to enjoy the portion of infra because of their developments.

If 77% investors from Russia choose Bitcoin, I think it makes a lot of sense. Because many exchanges and projects are from Russia, it means that
Russian investors are aware that the crypto world can be profitable in the future. And I agree with you, that 77% is a very high percentage for
a country that has investors who prefer Bitcoin. I don't know the percentage of investors in America who prefer Bitcoin, there is a high probability too,
because the number of Bitcoin ATM machines in America is very large. This means that the crypto adoption process in America is quite massive
in my opinion, no doubt America always wants to be the best at anything, so in the future or even now both Russia and America are competing
to adopt crypto without all of us knowing. But it would be even better if the Russian or American government supported crypto, as El Salvador did.
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23% of population that doesn't like or really know anything about bitcoin is boomers. They could care less if there already wealthy because there old and they just don't care about the new kind of investment like bitcoin, just look at Warren Buffet he said he just doesn't understand it.
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It is definitely understandable considering the environment that most Russian's live in. Having physical assets that can be stolen by criminals or the government very easily makes precious metals a big no-no. Forex has always been an extremely risky endeavor that is only profitable for the very few and again, if you are successful a nosy government official might easily seize your bank accounts for their personal benefit. That leaves Bitcoin/cryptocurrency as a very desirable asset that is easy to access across borders and allows them to move money out of Russia while in their full control. It is almost the perfect counter to a totalitarian and authoritative regime - decentralized banking.

I have read that in Russia there were incidents of robbery on village churches, where orthodox relics are hosted. So you can imagine the case if someone has a lot of gold or silver bars in his possession. The national currency is less valuable when compared to toilet paper. The Ruble has lost around 60% of its value during the last 7 years. Worst hit are the pensioners and senior citizens, who have most of their savings in the form of fiat bank deposits. And ironically, this is the same group of people who are most opposed to Bitcoin.
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In a country wherein you need to gain the trust of the government in order to expand your business, it’s not surprising that the majority of those who have the financial capabilities to invest and take a risk prefer bitcoin. In Russia, only those who have made significant contributions to the administration can prosper, and those who don’t will have a hard time making it out of the hell hole. Bitcoin provides an avenue for people who don’t have the means to do the government a favor reach financial freedom for themselves.

Then again, the Russian government is ever so strict on its stance re: cryptocurrencies, so bitcoin is, IMO, still not a safe investment if you are a Russian citizen without planning to go out of the country.
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Though am not a Russian but when it comes to reality and technical development I love the country and I wish others too should follow up the trail in support for btc, it surprised me and I feel bad when I hear some countries are yet to support the move for btc adoption, why?... Is it under-development or lack of civilization, here in this article one of the Russian's self regulatory organization called  Russian's Association of Currency Brokers made in a statement that the Bitcoin investment is preferred to Gold and forex.

If a country can lead the move in support for crypto, then the young agile populating youths will take the challenge for emulation. Crypto is not a scam, it's a new development launch of digital currency and it's going world wide on acceptability with full operational usage.

It is definitely understandable considering the environment that most Russian's live in. Having physical assets that can be stolen by criminals or the government very easily makes precious metals a big no-no. Forex has always been an extremely risky endeavor that is only profitable for the very few and again, if you are successful a nosy government official might easily seize your bank accounts for their personal benefit. That leaves Bitcoin/cryptocurrency as a very desirable asset that is easy to access across borders and allows them to move money out of Russia while in their full control. It is almost the perfect counter to a totalitarian and authoritative regime - decentralized banking.
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I believe the number is more than 77%...

cryptocurrency really attracts the attention of the world especially one of the creators of the world's number 2 cryptocurrency comes from Russia (vitalik buterin) which is sure to inspire Russians. Russia is an influential country and this is encouraging news imo.
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Let's see how other assets lose their values against Bitcoin. They are gold, crude oil, SP500. Source



Another article in 2020 presents that people are aware and realized the more expensive value of Bitcoin. They think more when making transactions and they have to change from Bitcoin to satoshis for transactions.

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You can check the chart for Satoshi per dollar: https://stats.buybitcoinworldwide.com/satoshi-per-dollar/

They all represent a same fact, Bitcoin & satoshi are increasing in their values.
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That's because it's worth more and they can easily move it out of the country given how low the value of a ruble is. I think the oligarchs want some ticket for themselves as a way out, that's why we see them wanting crypto as an investment.
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Gold is old, cash is trash

Fiat, cash only lost value with hyper inflation. Purchasing Power of the US. dollar over time

Gold is not trash but it has less growth than Bitcoin in last 5 years. Gold change in last 5 years is 36.44%, last 20 years is 571.8%. In last 5 years, what is change of Bitcoin? Is it bigger than 36.44%? It is bigger than 571.8%, the 20 years growth of Gold.


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Well, if you can believe the mainstream media and popular websites, Russia should have some of the best hackers in the world... and if many of them are "Black hats" then most of them would be using Bitcoin to hide their stash. (Ransomware and hacking exploits)

Also, if you have a dictator as a President, you also have to keep your wealth moveable... and it is also not easy for a government that are "corrupt" to seize your wealth, if it comes to that. (Gold and shares and Forex can be traced and seized)  Wink
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That is new learning for me. Considering 77% is huge number in any country at this point. So the day won’t be far from this point where Russia will be 100% in the crypto ventures and the infrastructure will be developed full fledged. May be this will make America to think about the crypto adoption and gain the power in a race of developments. I am saying this from the past experience where America always wanted to be ahead of Russia when there was time to reach the moon and launch the first manned mission. This race and urge to be ahead of that country made America go crazy about space programmes. Let’s be honest this can be true with the crypto adoption too and overall effect? Well rest of the countries get to enjoy the portion of infra because of their developments.
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If Bitcoin is so popular, then why its marketcap is only a fraction of gold's marketcap?
Because it is not more popular Tongue
The problem with all of the surveys like this one is that their selection process is severely flawed and they always target a small group that is not representative of the whole population. Consequently the results they get is very misleading. It is like those topics on "bitcointalk" asking if they should buy bitcoin or gold! Obviously 100% of thes answer here will suggest bitcoin but that doesn't mean 100% of people are buying bitcoin.
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I am Russian and I can say that it is easier to enter the crypto market than to enter the forex or stock market. As sometimes you just need qualified investor status, sometimes you need to have a minimum amount of money which is also usually a quite big amount to start. Young guys are really in favour of progressive bitcoin. Moreover, I work in the crypto market and haven’t had to pay taxes yet, but with gold and forex there is an opposite situation.

A bit confused when you mention that you don't have to pay taxes. Can you elaborate a bit? As per the law passed by the Duma in July, users of cryptocurrency are required to declare receipts in excess of RUR 600,000. Tax at normal rates need to be paid on any profit arising from trade with cryptocurrencies. There is a penalty of 40%, if the taxes are not paid on time. It may sound a little bit harsh, but I have to say that the government position on cryptocurrency seems to be much more friendlier than the one we have here in India.
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I am Russian and I can say that it is easier to enter the crypto market than to enter the forex or stock market. As sometimes you just need qualified investor status, sometimes you need to have a minimum amount of money which is also usually a quite big amount to start. Young guys are really in favour of progressive bitcoin. Moreover, I work in the crypto market and haven’t had to pay taxes yet, but with gold and forex there is an opposite situation.
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this is very excited and shocking the Russian government.  it is clear that a significant increase occurred at a rapid time, in recent years people have started to switch investments to crypto.. 

Yeah, they could have been switching to crypto, but the amount of money flowing from gold to crypto is insignificant in my opinion. For one, if gold investors doesn't understands crypto's volatility, then might not switch at all or just testing the waters and putting minimal investments.

The Russian government in power can't do much about this happening phenomenon..

Of course, no one can really stop crypto, unless they put a blanket ban. And even if they do that, still there could be Russians buying underground thru P2P.
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this is very excited and shocking the Russian government.  it is clear that a significant increase occurred at a rapid time, in recent years people have started to switch investments to crypto.. 

The Russian government in power can't do much about this happening phenomenon..
No government could really stop when it comes to adoption or recognition of bitcoin or crypto market as a whole but somehow they could impose bans and restrictions specially to those regulated platforms
which would really be a big headache for us crypto users or enthusiast but well it wouldnt really be that enough though to stop us completely and its no surprise that each country would have
that bigger percentage on trusting up bitcoin or crypto investment but it isnt just right that you would totally leave gold and forex behind.If you do have the funds or money
then why wont select them all?
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Though am not a Russian but when it comes to reality and technical development I love the country and I wish others too should follow up the trail in support for btc, it surprised me and I feel bad when I hear some countries are yet to support the move for btc adoption, why?... Is it under-development or lack of civilization, here in this article one of the Russian's self regulatory organization called  Russian's Association of Currency Brokers made in a statement that the Bitcoin investment is preferred to Gold and forex.
A government supporting a decentralized currency and the majority of the users adopting a decentralized currency are completely different things even in face value.


If a country can lead the move in support for crypto, then the young agile populating youths will take the challenge for emulation. Crypto is not a scam, it's a new development launch of digital currency and it's going world wide on acceptability with full operational usage.
The articles talks about individuals who are preferring Bitcoin than forex or gold and it has nothing to with the government doing anything. May be majority are tech savvy and do their research. I know it is a survey result and i do not buy it as a conclusive evidence of anything Tongue.
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this is very excited and shocking the Russian government.  it is clear that a significant increase occurred at a rapid time, in recent years people have started to switch investments to crypto.. 

The Russian government in power can't do much about this happening phenomenon..
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If Bitcoin is so popular, then why its marketcap is only a fraction of gold's marketcap? Maybe because gold investors are ready to put large sums into it, while Bitcoin investors only put smaller amounts because of the volatility risks. Or maybe such popularity is only present in Russia and a few other countries while the rest of the world is less enthusiastic about it. Though the US and a few European countries are leaders in node count, so this is probably not the reason.
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Here's my theory why they prefer it as an investment. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are a good way to evade your taxes if you invested your money in the right cryptocurrencies, to make my theory a bit credible if it's not, I think the corruption of oligarchs in Russia goes unchecked as Putin don't see anything wrong with that.

As people will come to know about bitcoin, they will sell their gold and investments in forex and buy more bitcoin and crypto.

People already know that there is more return in bitcoins as compare to any other assets.
I did it in 2018 i sold all the gold and i bought bitcoin, i believe that i invest in bitcoin more profit than i invest in gold and it has been proven now i have enjoyed the profit from bitcoin investment.
Only people who don't understand bitcoin choose gold investment.
On my case i do held of 50-50% on overall assets which is on Gold and Bitcoin.It doesnt necessarily for you to choose one if you could handle or able to deal with both.Im not really that negative
on bitcoin investment but nothing beats out if you do stick or put some into those natural or traditional investment which is a bit more secure since you can get hold of it even though
value movement isnt really that much or way too far on compared to bitcoin but at least you could have some assurance or security of it.
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Here's my theory why they prefer it as an investment. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are a good way to evade your taxes if you invested your money in the right cryptocurrencies, to make my theory a bit credible if it's not, I think the corruption of oligarchs in Russia goes unchecked as Putin don't see anything wrong with that.

As people will come to know about bitcoin, they will sell their gold and investments in forex and buy more bitcoin and crypto.

People already know that there is more return in bitcoins as compare to any other assets.
I did it in 2018 i sold all the gold and i bought bitcoin, i believe that i invest in bitcoin more profit than i invest in gold and it has been proven now i have enjoyed the profit from bitcoin investment.
Only people who don't understand bitcoin choose gold investment.
Well, I think some of them preferred the stability rather than making a profit. It just proves that they don't really understand how Bitcoin works and it's just their choice so we can't do anything about it. Perhaps they invested in Bitcoin too and other assets but for most people they just let their investment stick to the gold since they have had enough enough and is no plan to earn more.

If the whole world is just like what most of the Russian people would do then the adoption wouldn't be that hard but the problem is that most government doesn't like the idea of having a decentralized asset which is most corrupt official wouldn't like because they can't control and own it just like how they irrationally making fiat out of thin air.
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Here's my theory why they prefer it as an investment. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are a good way to evade your taxes if you invested your money in the right cryptocurrencies, to make my theory a bit credible if it's not, I think the corruption of oligarchs in Russia goes unchecked as Putin don't see anything wrong with that.

As people will come to know about bitcoin, they will sell their gold and investments in forex and buy more bitcoin and crypto.

People already know that there is more return in bitcoins as compare to any other assets.
I did it in 2018 i sold all the gold and i bought bitcoin, i believe that i invest in bitcoin more profit than i invest in gold and it has been proven now i have enjoyed the profit from bitcoin investment.
Only people who don't understand bitcoin choose gold investment.
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Here's my theory why they prefer it as an investment. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are a good way to evade your taxes if you invested your money in the right cryptocurrencies, to make my theory a bit credible if it's not, I think the corruption of oligarchs in Russia goes unchecked as Putin don't see anything wrong with that.

As people will come to know about bitcoin, they will sell their gold and investments in forex and buy more bitcoin and crypto.

People already know that there is more return in bitcoins as compare to any other assets.
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Though am not a Russian but when it comes to reality and technical development I love the country and I wish others too should follow up the trail in support for btc, it surprised me and I feel bad when I hear some countries are yet to support the move for btc adoption, why?
Gold is less volatile than Bitcoin.

Forex is too volatile and with same risk from leverage as of crypto market but you can not find transparency with public ledger from any asset that is trading on Forex.

With Bitcoin, you can do many things. Whale alerts, on-chain analysis and more things.

Volatility of price is attractive for traders and investors but one more attractive thing is Bitcoin is safer than Forex. You can check information, news from public ledger and on chain analysis.

exactly +1
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Though am not a Russian but when it comes to reality and technical development I love the country and I wish others too should follow up the trail in support for btc, it surprised me and I feel bad when I hear some countries are yet to support the move for btc adoption, why?
Gold is less volatile than Bitcoin.

Forex is too volatile and with same risk from leverage as of crypto market but you can not find transparency with public ledger from any asset that is trading on Forex.

With Bitcoin, you can do many things. Whale alerts, on-chain analysis and more things.

Volatility of price is attractive for traders and investors but one more attractive thing is Bitcoin is safer than Forex. You can check information, news from public ledger and on chain analysis.
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Russia and Russians are really such an enigma. The country that stopped the Nazi march dead in its track, gave the world the idea of unity of the working class and built some of the most imposing machines and structures in its era, is now looked down upon as an "also ran". One can only wonder what these Vodka guzzling , cold resistant bears would have accomplished, if not for all the lies and secrecy inflicted by the Oligarchs.

When it comes to bitcoin, i think the ability to run your own miners, nodes and actually be part of a decentralized network is something that naturally holds a lot of allure for free-minded men in countries like Russia and China. So, even though Bitcoin's popularity may be because of its usefulness in skirting sanctions, one cannot be sure that there aren't a bunch of real, working class Russians who have a love for Bitcoin and crypto. I mean even at the height of KGB and USSR's power, brave souls still dared to defect to the free world. That too in the absence of secret modes of communication and ease of access. So it shouldn't come as a surprise that quite a few people would prefer Bitcoin over almost everything else, not just gold and forex.
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I am not surprised by these figures. The Russian Ruble has lost 60% of its value in the last 7 years and a lot of the investors don't want to pour their money in to mainstream assets. Those who are able to do so are moving their assets to offshore havens such as Cyprus and London. For those who doesn't have the means to do so, Bitcoin represents an attractive option. The central bank has maintained a tough stance on Bitcoin for sometime. But recently the Duma introduced a law, which made life a little bit easier for the cryptocurrency users.
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I've looked at the news sources, and I think this survey may not be fully valid. With a large population of Russia (144.4 million)

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I think the survey is not representative enough, even though in the study the minimum number of respondents is 100 respondents. It seems that this survey uses random sampling, the results may differ from the current result, depending on the surveyor.

If we calculate from the total population of Russia (144,4M), then we will get a survey percentage of about 0.00035% (144,4M : 502 Respondents), I don't get data on total investors in Russia, but I still believe that the results of this survey are not representative (invalid)

Sources
[1] https://btcpeers.com/77-of-russian-investors-prefer-bitcoin-to-gold-survey-reveals/
[2] https://datatopics.worldbank.org/world-development-indicators/
[3] https://ecas.ec.europa.eu
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I guess if we are going to look at this forum, the Russian community is huge, and one of the biggest here if I'm not mistaken.

As far as "bitcoin over gold" investment, it's easy decision though, I mean you can just go and buy bitcoin in an exchange, withdraw it and have it in your wallet, and then you can simply sell it if you wanted to. As supposed to gold wherein the closest that we can get to call in as an investment is to buy gold jewelries, many of them and store it in your house or wear them, but that is a different story.
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It is good. I've heard that the government here always wants to make strict rules on bitcoin and cryptocurrency but they can not actually. In fact, the high number of cryptocurrency users are recorded in any country (even in China where bitcoin and crypto are strongly forbidden). In my country, the government does not like bitcoin at all but they can not make a strong regulation on bitcoin to avoid people from using it.

"Russian investors" is a fairly vague term. I am a US investor, so is Warren Buffett but, we really don't have much in common.
I have a friend who is a stock broker / investment advisor. She spends more time reading financial information in a day then I do most months. Due to regulations, a lot of time she can't invest her money where she is putting her clients money. But she controls 10s of millions of dollars of OPM. In terms of investing I don't have a lot in common with her or her clients either.

So, what type of "Russian investors" are we talking. The Buffett type the Dave type or the Dave's friend type?

-Dave

All of the types I guess, as long as you have money and you want to generate income by your money. That is the point of investing
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"Russian investors" is a fairly vague term. I am a US investor, so is Warren Buffett but, we really don't have much in common.
I have a friend who is a stock broker / investment advisor. She spends more time reading financial information in a day then I do most months. Due to regulations, a lot of time she can't invest her money where she is putting her clients money. But she controls 10s of millions of dollars of OPM. In terms of investing I don't have a lot in common with her or her clients either.

So, what type of "Russian investors" are we talking. The Buffett type the Dave type or the Dave's friend type?

-Dave
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There is an interesting story if you read: Inside Russia’s love-hate relationship with Bitcoin, investors in Russia as you mentioned, almost 77% of them are influential people in the world of politics, economy, government, and so on related to the Russian state, In fact, they unconsciously from the government have a PayPal account and a bitcoin wallet, it aims to make it easier for them to make transactions.

Investors from other countries can also do the same thing with Russia, provided that investors are not intimidated by certain parties, If each other supports all problems run smoothly and succeed by themselves, the point is not to bring each other down.

Cruel politics, devil money, that's what happens in other countries, investors have to do it in secret.
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Russia stands at number 8 on the ranking of countries with most internet access according to this survey for 2021;
https://www.internetworldstats.com/top20.htm

IMO, i think any country with high internet access where it's citizens surf the internet properly, it's citizens must have come across stories and trends about cryptocurrency and bitcoin, what it really means and the opportunities for investment that it holds.

 After having come across this information and understood properly, many who are investors or have that mindset will most definitely choose to invest in bitcoin than gold or fiat just like most of the investors in Russia are doing at the moment.
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History teaches us that it doesn't matter what the people in Russia want.
What the Russian government wants is the most important thing.There's a big gap between the people of Russia and the government.
I consider this good news,since more and more people in Russia have a positive view towards Bitcoin.
The government/central banks might still be hostile against BTC,but rules and regulations can be bypassed and broken.I don't recommend breaking the rules,but sooner or later,the powers that be in Russia will realize that trying to suppress the Bitcoin/cryptocurrency industry can provide only negative results.
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it surprised me and I feel bad when I hear some countries are yet to support the move for btc adoption, why?... Is it under-development or lack of civilization...
To be honest, I'm not surprised that many countries, like Russia for example are yet to endorse Bitcoin, and the reason is basically obvious, the government do not want people to control their funds or be free from their fiat manipulations, we're all aware that in the Bitcoin network the user is his or her own bank and the responsibility of funds is on the user, not on the bank, government or any third party service (though people make mistake to store their funds on exchanges), thus there is no way the government would be happy with the Bitcoin network that reduces their level of control, it's definitely not underdevelopment or lack of civilization cause many of this countries hostile to Bitcoin are first world countries. You must understand that only a good government would be happy with a decentralized financial network, and it's difficult to find that government in society today.
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I don't think Russia was ever friendly about bitcoin! Russian central bank executives have spoken negatively about bitcoin quite a few times already. Also if I remember correctly, Russia has been trying to build a tool which will trace any crypto transactions. So it's a surprising news to me that Russian people think Bitcoin is far better than gold and foreign exchange.

So I seriously doubt the genuineness of this statement coming out from their association. But if it's really true, then it's great to see such kind of positivity around ceyptos in Russia.
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Here's my theory why they prefer it as an investment. Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are a good way to evade your taxes if you invested your money in the right cryptocurrencies, to make my theory a bit credible if it's not, I think the corruption of oligarchs in Russia goes unchecked as Putin don't see anything wrong with that.
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Though am not a Russian but when it comes to reality and technical development I love the country and I wish others too should follow up the trail in support for btc, it surprised me and I feel bad when I hear some countries are yet to support the move for btc adoption, why?...

From what we all know more or less, and from what you quoted from the article, Russia has never been friendly to cryptocurrencies - moreover, there has always been conflicting information from that country - from banning crypto to regulating it. So it's not clear to me what you like so much about that country when it comes to cryptocurrencies, and do you really think that some other countries should follow their example?

The fact that Russian investors prefer Bitcoin instead of gold is not surprising, because it is one of the few ways to protect against inflation and not have to be part of a corruption network that permeates all pores of Russian society.

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Despite the growing interest in crypto in Russia, the country’s central bank and regulators continue to maintain a tough stance on crypto.

And I don't think there will be any significant progress, because a country where human rights are pretty low will never allow people to be financially independent.
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Though am not a Russian but when it comes to reality and technical development I love the country and I wish others too should follow up the trail in support for btc, it surprised me and I feel bad when I hear some countries are yet to support the move for btc adoption, why?... Is it under-development or lack of civilization, here in this article one of the Russian's self regulatory organization called  Russian's Association of Currency Brokers made in a statement that the Bitcoin investment is preferred to Gold and forex.

If a country can lead the move in support for crypto, then the young agile populating youths will take the challenge for emulation. Crypto is not a scam, it's a new development launch of digital currency and it's going world wide on acceptability with full operational usage.

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77% of Russian investors prefer Bitcoin to Gold, survey reveals
A survey conducted by the Russian Association of Currency Brokers (AFD) has revealed that most Russian investors prefer Bitcoin to gold and forex.

The local self-regulatory organization polled 502 Russian investors to evaluate local investor sentiment regarding cryptocurrencies. Nearly 77% of the respondents said Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are the "most forward-looking" investment on their radar. There appears to be a wide interest gap between Bitcoin, gold, and forex, as the two latter options attracted just 8.8% and 14%, respectively.

Only 23% of respondents have not been exposed to digital currencies ever. Among these, over 77% were considering investing in crypto in the near future, while only 7.6% were strongly opposed to investing in crypto. The remaining 15% remain undecided on the issue.

AFD head Evgeny Masharov stated that the survey clearly indicates that Russian investors now consider digital financial assets as a genuine investment rather than just a “hype product.”

The survey results will be sent to the Bank of Russia and the State Duma Committee on Financial Markets, according to the AFD.

Despite the growing interest in crypto in Russia, the country’s central bank and regulators continue to maintain a tough stance on crypto.

BTC PEERS reported that Russian regulators were beginning to track crypto transactions earlier in August. The Central Bank of Russia also expressed concerns over the rise in the number of investors seeking Bitcoin exposure, likening the digital asset to a minefield.

Although skeptical about private cryptocurrencies, the Russian central bank is currently focused on developing its central bank digital currency project dubbed the “Digital Ruble” which is expected to enter trials in 2022.
https://btcpeers.com/77-of-russian-investors-prefer-bitcoin-to-gold-survey-reveals/?utm_source=thecryptoapp
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