$7,700 will be the next hurdle on the upside

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Quote from: Canis Majoris on April 05, 2018, 03:42:46 PM

Quote from: magneto on April 04, 2018, 06:49:46 PM

Prices plunged below $7000 today following a strong day yesterday.

As I expect, this rally is short-lived. There is really no momentum for a bull market to break out at the moment, so it's just a short term adjustment. The resistance at $7500 was pretty strong, as expected as profit takers seem to be selling as soon as market picks up a bit.

There will be some more dips in the following months, followed by small rallies following those dips, but in general it is safe to say that we still have some space to go down before consolidation at the bear market's bottom can fully occur.

I agree with almost everything you said, except the the profit-taking part. It looks like the whole market switched into a day-trading mode of operation, but it is not necessarily profit takers who don't allow the price to rise higher. The swings are too small, and it may be an artificial resistance created by someone who doesn't want the price to rise. Today, when the market sentiment is all doom and gloom, it won't take a lot of financial resource to keep prices contained and constrained, especially to the upside.

It could be. However with any sort of pump there is going to be profit takers, whether that constitutes a small or large percentage. I suspect that most big players now are probably trading bitcoin for the short term movements, either shorting or going long for a few days/weeks at a time with margin, otherwise they would not be selling as soon as there is 8-10% rise in price.

The artificial resistance that you mentioned could be possible through a group of shorters, or just someone with a huge stash of BTC bought earlier.

But overall as I've said, unless a sizable short squeeze happens due to a sudden reversal in the market sentiment, we're not going to see any major bullish activity for the time being. And even if a bull run starts occurring, there is reason to suspect that it's a bull trap if prices have not plunged further and consolidated there before making its way up.

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Quote from: magneto on April 04, 2018, 06:49:46 PM

Prices plunged below $7000 today following a strong day yesterday.

As I expect, this rally is short-lived. There is really no momentum for a bull market to break out at the moment, so it's just a short term adjustment. The resistance at $7500 was pretty strong, as expected as profit takers seem to be selling as soon as market picks up a bit.

There will be some more dips in the following months, followed by small rallies following those dips, but in general it is safe to say that we still have some space to go down before consolidation at the bear market's bottom can fully occur.

I agree with almost everything you said, except the the profit-taking part. It looks like the whole market switched into a day-trading mode of operation, but it is not necessarily profit takers who don't allow the price to rise higher. The swings are too small, and it may be an artificial resistance created by someone who doesn't want the price to rise. Today, when the market sentiment is all doom and gloom, it won't take a lot of financial resource to keep prices contained and constrained, especially to the upside.

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Quote from: snowdropfore on April 03, 2018, 02:27:57 AM

every rebound is a good chance to get out off the train ,but i choose to stay ,becasue i am waiting foe the $100k .

Like you, i will also wait as many days as possible to reach the high value in the market, for that it will surely take a lot of time and hoping the positive trend with the Bitcoin price.

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let us hope $6500 will be the last bottom .and end the bear market now .i do not want to be in 2014 again.

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Quote from: xuan87 on April 04, 2018, 11:58:30 PM

Yes maybe 7k could be the indicator to go up but the problem is the price went back again, and this already happened for few times, seems like the market is struggling to go up, maybe the market need to stay under 6k for a while then able to continue rising to higher limit

oh my god, no matter how long this situation will continue. this has become A hot potato from early januari until now. it seems that bitcoin will continue to get stuck in this wild jungle full of question marks. whether by pressing the market bitcoin prices will start to improve? yes, we have to try with the market, so keep pumping the price, so the bear market will soon end soon. I think everyone is waiting for the bull market soon to happen. as far as i know, if we manage to break the price of $ 7k - $ 8k we will be quite easy to achieve the values in the next level.

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Yes maybe 7k could be the indicator to go up but the problem is the price went back again, and this already happened for few times, seems like the market is struggling to go up, maybe the market need to stay under 6k for a while then able to continue rising to higher limit

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Quote from: AICoin_Official on April 02, 2018, 07:18:49 AM

BTC fails to dip below $6,600 effectively, if you’ve learnt to use my theory of selling at breakthrough point, decent profits should be easy to make. Take a look at hourly chart:

BTC has been remaining supported at $6,600 in the past 3 sessions, volumes obviously shrink today, making the dip below $6,600 not an effective breakthrough, or we can say it’s fake.

Later, an upper shadow just brings price back above $6,600, bulls are temporarily guarding important levels and lack the momentum to initiate a reversal in trend as volumes remain low.

The minor bottom formed at $6,600 is expected to witness an oscillating rally, which is believed to lengthen the period of downtrend, if price manages to hold above it.

As mentioned in my previous analysis, strength of such rally will be limited, making it possible for price to remain above $6,600 in the past 3 sessions.

Volumes during current uptrend remain insufficient, indicating that the range of a short-term rally will be small.

$7,700 will be the ceiling for a rally as bullish momentum is limited and the overall downtrend remains intact, making it profitable for daily traders.

Original by Kuang Ren, translated and posted by AICoin Jami.

It's definitely an interesting analysis, I take your hat off, however we still can't be exactly sure on whether or not it's accurate. I really do hope that it does recover and surpass $7.700 soon, since I've bought at $7.500 and the price is currently still falling down to $6.600, which is depressing. Honestly, it's quite tiring.

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Prices plunged below $7000 today following a strong day yesterday.

As I expect, this rally is short-lived. There is really no momentum for a bull market to break out at the moment, so it's just a short term adjustment. The resistance at $7500 was pretty strong, as expected as profit takers seem to be selling as soon as market picks up a bit.

There will be some more dips in the following months, followed by small rallies following those dips, but in general it is safe to say that we still have some space to go down before consolidation at the bear market's bottom can fully occur.

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Quote from: AICoin_Official on April 02, 2018, 07:18:49 AM

BTC fails to dip below $6,600 effectively, if you’ve learnt to use my theory of selling at breakthrough point, decent profits should be easy to make. Take a look at hourly chart:

[sniff]

BTC has been remaining supported at $6,600 in the past 3 sessions, volumes obviously shrink today, making the dip below $6,600 not an effective breakthrough, or we can say it’s fake.

Later, an upper shadow just brings price back above $6,600, bulls are temporarily guarding important levels and lack the momentum to initiate a reversal in trend as volumes remain low.

The minor bottom formed at $6,600 is expected to witness an oscillating rally, which is believed to lengthen the period of downtrend, if price manages to hold above it.

[sniff]

As mentioned in my previous analysis, strength of such rally will be limited, making it possible for price to remain above $6,600 in the past 3 sessions.

Volumes during current uptrend remain insufficient, indicating that the range of a short-term rally will be small.

$7,700 will be the ceiling for a rally as bullish momentum is limited and the overall downtrend remains intact, making it profitable for daily traders.

Original by Kuang Ren, translated and posted by AICoin Jami.

It seems that the daily traders had been controlling the market and they will not give us a chance to reach the price at $8k as they will counter it with their more dumps and get their profits easily.

Exactly, very sad that this will be the new trend, daily traders will take every opportunity to get the profits resulting in the price not getting as what we are expecting it to be.

I'm happy seeing the price getting to almost $7500 and before daily traders took over and now we are back below $7K the last time I check the price. Unless we see the bulls, the daily traders will simply book anything even if its just minor profit.

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Quote from: AICoin_Official on April 02, 2018, 07:18:49 AM

BTC fails to dip below $6,600 effectively, if you’ve learnt to use my theory of selling at breakthrough point, decent profits should be easy to make. Take a look at hourly chart:

BTC has been remaining supported at $6,600 in the past 3 sessions, volumes obviously shrink today, making the dip below $6,600 not an effective breakthrough, or we can say it’s fake.

Later, an upper shadow just brings price back above $6,600, bulls are temporarily guarding important levels and lack the momentum to initiate a reversal in trend as volumes remain low.

The minor bottom formed at $6,600 is expected to witness an oscillating rally, which is believed to lengthen the period of downtrend, if price manages to hold above it.

As mentioned in my previous analysis, strength of such rally will be limited, making it possible for price to remain above $6,600 in the past 3 sessions.

Volumes during current uptrend remain insufficient, indicating that the range of a short-term rally will be small.

$7,700 will be the ceiling for a rally as bullish momentum is limited and the overall downtrend remains intact, making it profitable for daily traders.

Original by Kuang Ren, translated and posted by AICoin Jami.

It seems to be true. Bitcoin is indeed having a hard time to pass the 7000 usd market value and is also having difficulties on being into it for a period of time since fluctuations are immediately happening right after reacheimg the said market value mark. For now hold and knvest while the price is low. Once it starts to recover profit will be earned.

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Quote from: AICoin_Official on April 02, 2018, 07:18:49 AM

BTC fails to dip below $6,600 effectively, if you’ve learnt to use my theory of selling at breakthrough point, decent profits should be easy to make. Take a look at hourly chart:

[sniff]

BTC has been remaining supported at $6,600 in the past 3 sessions, volumes obviously shrink today, making the dip below $6,600 not an effective breakthrough, or we can say it’s fake.

Later, an upper shadow just brings price back above $6,600, bulls are temporarily guarding important levels and lack the momentum to initiate a reversal in trend as volumes remain low.

The minor bottom formed at $6,600 is expected to witness an oscillating rally, which is believed to lengthen the period of downtrend, if price manages to hold above it.

[sniff]

As mentioned in my previous analysis, strength of such rally will be limited, making it possible for price to remain above $6,600 in the past 3 sessions.

Volumes during current uptrend remain insufficient, indicating that the range of a short-term rally will be small.

$7,700 will be the ceiling for a rally as bullish momentum is limited and the overall downtrend remains intact, making it profitable for daily traders.

Original by Kuang Ren, translated and posted by AICoin Jami.

It seems that the daily traders had been controlling the market and they will not give us a chance to reach the price at $8k as they will counter it with their more dumps and get their profits easily.

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Quote from: snowdropfore on April 03, 2018, 02:27:57 AM

every rebound is a good chance to get out off the train ,but i choose to stay ,becasue i am waiting foe the $100k .

No room for me to get out because I know bitcoin can really hit that price in due time. Bitcoin may not break that resistance and continues to dump for me it is still valuable to hold for, the price is still good compare last year and I know it will keep on climbing up until it reach another peak.

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Quote from: STT on April 03, 2018, 02:41:50 AM

I tend to agree short term but I think Bitcoin tends to overshoot in both directions, so really Im looking at 8500 and 9500 beyond that for an upside target. The reasoning being its quite a significant turn around which then draws in alot of previous bearish sellers.

Well, it doesn't look like it is going to overshoot to the upside. The effort to keep over 7000 seems to have failed. It just proves that nothing has changed since the beginning of this year - apart from prices spiraling down most of the time. Whenever Bitcoin makes an effort to shoot up, people start jumping off the ship - or the train, and then we are back to square one. And the square one here means continuation of the spiraling down.

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Quote from: snowdropfore on April 03, 2018, 02:27:57 AM

every rebound is a good chance to get out off the train ,but i choose to stay ,becasue i am waiting foe the $100k .

me also 'cause i don't believe those always saying it will die in the future because it plunges back ti lowest price again. How funny ppl nowadays , lol they just quick jump on others predictions without creating their own speculation and strategy, which the common reason also why they sell immediately when the market fluctuate and without knowing it's just a normal correction of price.

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Quote from: snowdropfore on April 03, 2018, 02:27:57 AM

every rebound is a good chance to get out off the train ,but i choose to stay ,becasue i am waiting foe the $100k .

Whoa, are you a rapper?

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I tend to agree short term but I think Bitcoin tends to overshoot in both directions, so really Im looking at 8500 and 9500 beyond that for an upside target. The reasoning being its quite a significant turn around which then draws in alot of previous bearish sellers.

Especially this might occur if futures sold before the end of the quarter but can now go long again. Anyhow I have it above a trend again which apparently is very bullish to fake out then recover in short time

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every rebound is a good chance to get out off the train ,but i choose to stay ,becasue i am waiting foe the $100k .

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It may be broken but I think that it's confirmed that bitcoin isn't going to go above $10k again this year. We are still in a bear market, this is just a rebound from the low prices we saw in the few days of full on dumps we saw.

If we can break the $8k resistance, then it would probably just delay the bear market. But I don't believe we have yet reached the bottom.

I absolutely agree with the analysis, the volume is quite small and it is just extremely unlikely that the rally will turn out to be anything significant due to the fact that it's overwhelmingly bearish still. I expect it to top out at a maximum of $8.5k before another major pullback.

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Bitcoin go below $6,600 will be the most bad state of it momentum as it might fall to $3,000. I think a lot is going on at the back end and that is the major reason why people like mtgox and dumping they holding. Bitcoin has done well in 2017 and we should not give up in 2018 as bitcoin will soon get more new investors that may push the price above $10,000.

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As I have said in my previous post, I personally thinks that the first barrier that we need to hurdle is $7100-$7200 and damn it looks like we slice it like a break in the last 2-4 hours when I was away. So it looks like the next big test is as what has @ AICoin_Official analysis (based on Kua Reng). So it remains to be seen.

As far as the bulls vs bears, well the bears is winning for the last 3 months and its about time that we need some change in the air. Today was a great day to see the price goes above $7300 very quickly Last time I checked the price before taking a nap is around $6800-$7000 so I'm glad to see the price going up again. And since is just the start of the month, it looks like we have started at the right foot. Let's see how it goes, but I'm sure that is very welcoming to see the price above $7300 as of this time.$7700 HERE WE COME.

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Quote from: hase0278 on April 02, 2018, 05:02:05 PM

Quote from: Jating on April 02, 2018, 03:17:04 PM

I hope this month will really bring new positive things so that all this bearish sentiments can be replaced. Last time we peaked at $11600, we though that the bulls has taken the market already. but we are all wrong. But we still in search of all the bulls and the herds, I'm sure that they are around, just waiting for the perfect time to make this bull run once again so that we see the price go and try to test the 5 figures once again.

To describe the situation of the market right now, bulls and bears are battling with each other and thus is the reason why bitcoin goes up and down in the past few weeks. I wonder though who will win the final battle? The bulls or the bears? What im sure of right now is that whoever runs out of money or supply to dump between the two is the team that will lose. For now let's hope the bulls win.

Bulls and Bears are the same Whales... they lend out for shorts on one hand as they smash the market selling with other.. they rake in interest on the shorts and profit from the dump then as the shorts cover they know it is time to buy back what they dumped.. then they pump and squeeze the last of the shorts and then rally flies up on forced buying as they create the crowded FOMO bull market

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Quote from: vit05 on April 02, 2018, 11:24:00 AM

There are still many difficulties that have considerably reduced the volume. We need positive news that re-establishes market confidence. But at the same time, the stock market is also facing problems. So everyone is looking for safe haven instead of big and risky returns.

Will people transfer their money to Cryptocurrency market as we know China is fighting back and trading war is really threatening.

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I'll wait until bitcoin hits again it's ceiling.

Quote from: debuni on April 02, 2018, 03:14:31 PM

The volume is low due Easter holidays. It will increase in a few days.

And many are also selling since it is holidays. The same thing that we've been through during the first' holidays that we've been.

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Quote from: Jating on April 02, 2018, 03:17:04 PM

I hope this month will really bring new positive things so that all this bearish sentiments can be replaced. Last time we peaked at $11600, we though that the bulls has taken the market already. but we are all wrong. But we still in search of all the bulls and the herds, I'm sure that they are around, just waiting for the perfect time to make this bull run once again so that we see the price go and try to test the 5 figures once again.

To describe the situation of the market right now, bulls and bears are battling with each other and thus is the reason why bitcoin goes up and down in the past few weeks. I wonder though who will win the final battle? The bulls or the bears? What im sure of right now is that whoever runs out of money or supply to dump between the two is the team that will lose. For now let's hope the bulls win.

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Quote from: Theb on April 02, 2018, 12:16:52 PM

Before we even go to the 7-770$ - 7,800$ level we need to break the 1st resistance at 7,200$, if you look at the hourly chart and most the 15 minute chart of Bitcoin you will see that it has rejected 7,200$ for several days now, and if we break it (with volume) we may able be going to that price range. After that we can expect Bitcoin to hover around 8,200$ - 8,400$ level all of this can happen in a week.

For me I think the first resistance to break is $7100, we have attempted to break this barrier, unfortunately we have failed and then back to $6800 range but I see some strong push as well passing $7K multiple times but unable to get the hump over $7100 and then towards $7600-$7800

Quote from: Theb on April 02, 2018, 12:16:52 PM

Now you might be saying that isn't the price of Bitcoin going up to fast? Well to answer your question last week we experience Bitcoin going down from 9,100$ to 6,500$ in a week. So 8,200$ might not be as fast as how BTC drop last week. Hopefully the Bulls decided to have a bull run even passed the 8,400$ level. A lot of us here have already accumulated a lot of BTC during this drop.

I hope this month will really bring new positive things so that all this bearish sentiments can be replaced. Last time we peaked at $11600, we though that the bulls has taken the market already. but we are all wrong. But we still in search of all the bulls and the herds, I'm sure that they are around, just waiting for the perfect time to make this bull run once again so that we see the price go and try to test the 5 figures once again.

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Quote from: MoonIsBlue on April 02, 2018, 11:52:59 AM

Interesting I hear more people call for 7700 as top of the rally. Volume is absolute garbage though.

I also think that 7.7-8 is the top of the rally. At lease for another 20-40 days.

The volume is low due Easter holidays. It will increase in a few days.

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Quote from: AICoin_Official on April 02, 2018, 07:18:49 AM

$7,700 will be the ceiling for a rally as bullish momentum is limited and the overall downtrend remains intact, making it profitable for daily traders.

From what I've seen in other graphs, $7700 is harder to reach than $6600 (3700 BTC vs 2700 BTC). But this means nothing. I think that Bitcoin price rise is now a matter of "when", not "if". And when it'll happen, many sell positions may get moved upwards, making the current numbers deceiving. (The same goes for $6600: at that level many new buyers can come in). For now I'd not follow the numbers too strictly.

I strongly support your stance. In my opinion, we will fare better if we look at recent volatility levels. Today's price doesn't look very stable to me. I know that past behavior doesn't mean anything but I wouldn't be surprised if Bitcoin rises a couple thousand dollars overnight like it had happened less than 2 months ago. Apart from that, I take TA, and especially TA in this market, with a spoonful of salt. If you need a crutch for your trading decisions, then definitely use it. Otherwise stay away from it, as simple as it gets.

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Quote from: Palmerson on April 02, 2018, 07:39:42 AM

Trade volumes can grow at a tremendous rate. Morally, the market has long been ready for price growth. One week of stable price growth is enough now, and the situation can change dramatically in a positive direction. I do not trust the forecasts because they always rely on the statistics of past periods. My opinion is that in order to move forward, you can't look back.

Well great ideal in your positive outlook of things and I admit I am doing the same thing and not looking back, Just keep on moving forward we can not rely on past movements because it is a different thing that can happen with the value of bitcoin, But there are still a percantage that some movement fluctuation in the past can surely be seen in the future of movement of bitcoin just like the yearly increase bitcoin have taken but we can not rely just on that theory alone and make an assumption ourselves.

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Before we even go to the 7-770$ - 7,800$ level we need to break the 1st resistance at 7,200$, if you look at the hourly chart and most the 15 minute chart of Bitcoin you will see that it has rejected 7,200$ for several days now, and if we break it (with volume) we may able be going to that price range. After that we can expect Bitcoin to hover around 8,200$ - 8,400$ level all of this can happen in a week.

Now you might be saying that isn't the price of Bitcoin going up to fast? Well to answer your question last week we experience Bitcoin going down from 9,100$ to 6,500$ in a week. So 8,200$ might not be as fast as how BTC drop last week. Hopefully the Bulls decided to have a bull run even passed the 8,400$ level. A lot of us here have already accumulated a lot of BTC during this drop.

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Quote from: AICoin_Official on April 02, 2018, 07:18:49 AM

$7,700 will be the ceiling for a rally as bullish momentum is limited and the overall downtrend remains intact, making it profitable for daily traders.

From what I've seen in other graphs, $7700 is harder to reach than $6600 (3700 BTC vs 2700 BTC). But this means nothing. I think that Bitcoin price rise is now a matter of "when", not "if". And when it'll happen, many sell positions may get moved upwards, making the current numbers deceiving. (The same goes for $6600: at that level many new buyers can come in). For now I'd not follow the numbers too strictly.

Quote from: MoonIsBlue on April 02, 2018, 11:52:59 AM

Volume is absolute garbage though.

There are graphs here and there showing that the volumes in BTC are not actually smaller than in mid-December. Of course, if you count in Dollars, the numbers become almost 3x smaller.

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as far as i know bitcoin will keep going up and move upwards after reflecting the price, $ 7,700 will indeed be difficult to penetrate, but not as difficult as time passes through the $ 10,000 mark which in the end continues to decline. I think bitcoin will soon release On the second thought
to take care of this situation. I am sure the bullish market will soon approach bitcoin and bitcoin will soon leave bear market.

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This price is tempting people to buy. I can feel it.

Whatever manipulation the sharks from Wall Street are doing, it will fail. The more the price fall, the wider will be the distribution.

And if we reach 8k again, we will have a double bottom, which might spark FOMO.

On the other hand, if they keep dumping it, we will reach 1k in a short time, but it will be artificially engineered, and the temptation to buy will be greater, widening the distribution even more. The price will not stay there for too much time.

People are willing to buy, but they see the price keeps falling, and nobody wants to lose money, so they wait. Some are still buying it with the current price, but their volume is smaller, the distribution is tight (only the richer will be willing to take the risk), so it will need some buying effort to go back to 8k and form the double bottom.

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Interesting I hear more people call for 7700 as top of the rally. Volume is absolute garbage though.

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There are still many difficulties that have considerably reduced the volume. We need positive news that re-establishes market confidence. But at the same time, the stock market is also facing problems. So everyone is looking for safe haven instead of big and risky returns.

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Trade volumes can grow at a tremendous rate. Morally, the market has long been ready for price growth. One week of stable price growth is enough now, and the situation can change dramatically in a positive direction. I do not trust the forecasts because they always rely on the statistics of past periods. My opinion is that in order to move forward, you can't look back.

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BTC fails to dip below $6,600 effectively, if you’ve learnt to use my theory of selling at breakthrough point, decent profits should be easy to make. Take a look at hourly chart:

BTC has been remaining supported at $6,600 in the past 3 sessions, volumes obviously shrink today, making the dip below $6,600 not an effective breakthrough, or we can say it’s fake.

Later, an upper shadow just brings price back above $6,600, bulls are temporarily guarding important levels and lack the momentum to initiate a reversal in trend as volumes remain low.

The minor bottom formed at $6,600 is expected to witness an oscillating rally, which is believed to lengthen the period of downtrend, if price manages to hold above it.

As mentioned in my previous analysis, strength of such rally will be limited, making it possible for price to remain above $6,600 in the past 3 sessions.

Volumes during current uptrend remain insufficient, indicating that the range of a short-term rally will be small.

$7,700 will be the ceiling for a rally as bullish momentum is limited and the overall downtrend remains intact, making it profitable for daily traders.

Original by Kuang Ren, translated and posted by AICoin Jami.

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