87 dead after crane collapses at world’s holiest mosque in Mecca

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Quote from: vero on October 20, 2015, 02:16:49 AM

Quote from: Wilikon on October 16, 2015, 05:08:46 PM

28 Muslims Beheaded by Saudi Officials Over Holy Mecca Stampede (Shock Video)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-28-muslims-beheaded-by-saudi-officials-over-holy-mecca-stampede-shock-video/

I'm sure it's a disappointment to most here, but that bulldozer photo has been debunked widely. It's actually from 2006 and the bulldozer is scooping up trash. Also that entire area was completely remodeled several years ago and no longer looks remotely like that. The actual deaths took place on a two-story walkway and not in this open plaza

The disenchanted people are all the dead pilgrims and the beheaded...

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Quote from: Wilikon on October 16, 2015, 05:08:46 PM

28 Muslims Beheaded by Saudi Officials Over Holy Mecca Stampede (Shock Video)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-28-muslims-beheaded-by-saudi-officials-over-holy-mecca-stampede-shock-video/

I'm sure it's a disappointment to most here, but that bulldozer photo has been debunked widely. It's actually from 2006 and the bulldozer is scooping up trash. Also that entire area was completely remodeled several years ago and no longer looks remotely like that. The actual deaths took place on a two-story walkway and not in this open plaza

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Quote from: panju1 on October 17, 2015, 10:13:17 PM

Quick "justice" at work.
It makes me shudder to think that a Saudi is the Chair of the UN Human Rights Council.

With Saudi Arabia heading the UN Human Rights Council, we can expect these resolutions to be put in place very quickly:

1. Rape of Indian and Pakistani maid servants by Arabs legalized.
2. Pedophilia legalized.
3. Female victims of rape will be stoned to death.
4. Non-Muslims will be given three choices: a. convert to death b. pay Jizzya c. death
5. Women will not be allowed outside their homes, without a male companion.

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Quote from: Wilikon on October 16, 2015, 05:08:46 PM

28 Muslims Beheaded by Saudi Officials Over Holy Mecca Stampede (Shock Video)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-28-muslims-beheaded-by-saudi-officials-over-holy-mecca-stampede-shock-video/

Quick "justice" at work.
It makes me shudder to think that a Saudi is the Chair of the UN Human Rights Council.

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Quote from: Wilikon on October 16, 2015, 05:08:46 PM

28 Muslims Beheaded by Saudi Officials Over Holy Mecca Stampede (Shock Video)
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-28-muslims-beheaded-by-saudi-officials-over-holy-mecca-stampede-shock-video/

This is why I have always preferred Shakira law over Sharia law. And these executed people were not "guards". They were Hajj volunteers who looked after crowd management and none of them were Arabs. They were mostly from Pakistan and India. This doesn't makes any sense. The real culprit was the Saudi prince, whose convoy caused the bottle-neck on the first place.

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28 Muslims Beheaded by Saudi Officials Over Holy Mecca Stampede (Shock Video)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/10/breaking-28-muslims-beheaded-by-saudi-officials-over-holy-mecca-stampede-shock-video/

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From the Independent The project to expand Mecca’s Grand Mosque was launched in 2011 by the late King Abdullah bin Abdulaziz and construction costs are estimated at more than $60 billion.

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wanna puke...

I heard the story about the motorcade of his highness that wanted to cross crowded street. true or false?

you never know to whom you lie...

personally since "this clock hotel"... it's thumb down.

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Quote from: Wilikon on October 07, 2015, 08:53:19 PM

The Saudi Kingdom will behead 28 Muslims who reportedly caused the stampede in Mecca last month.

While collecting bodies and providing medical care for the wounded of today’s incident in Mina have not ended yet, an Arabic media reported that 28 people who were involved in the incident to be executed tomorrow!

According to Beirut Daily al-Diyar it is so possible that the king of Saudi Arabia to order the execution of who caused this deadly accident.

“This religious decree will be issued immediately in Mina tomorrow; they will be charged with violating security issues and disobeying orders which claimed the lives of more than 1000 pilgrims and brought disrepute for Saudi authorities,” al-Diyar daily added.

It is important to say that so far Saudi authorities have refused to accept responsibility for the accident and blamed pilgrims for this event. So the authenticity of the news is uncertain.

At least 1,300 people have been killed and nearly 805 others injured in a crush during Hajj pilgrimage rituals outside Mecca.

http://en.abna24.com/service/middle-east-west-asia/archive/2015/09/24/712190/story.html

That's intense. It makes you wonder how absolutely sure they can be that it was explicitly these people. I hope there is no misdirection or regrets in the events that follow because it is truly sad to see more lives lost over lives lost.

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The Saudi Kingdom will behead 28 Muslims who reportedly caused the stampede in Mecca last month.

While collecting bodies and providing medical care for the wounded of today’s incident in Mina have not ended yet, an Arabic media reported that 28 people who were involved in the incident to be executed tomorrow!

According to Beirut Daily al-Diyar it is so possible that the king of Saudi Arabia to order the execution of who caused this deadly accident.

“This religious decree will be issued immediately in Mina tomorrow; they will be charged with violating security issues and disobeying orders which claimed the lives of more than 1000 pilgrims and brought disrepute for Saudi authorities,” al-Diyar daily added.

It is important to say that so far Saudi authorities have refused to accept responsibility for the accident and blamed pilgrims for this event. So the authenticity of the news is uncertain.

At least 1,300 people have been killed and nearly 805 others injured in a crush during Hajj pilgrimage rituals outside Mecca.

http://en.abna24.com/service/middle-east-west-asia/archive/2015/09/24/712190/story.html

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Quote from: pattu1 on September 30, 2015, 01:33:31 PM

Wars have been fought over control of holy places. The Saudis control over these holy places gives them power.
So risking lives in a crowded mess is nothing.

The Mecca / Mina complex is perhaps the most important religious place for pilgrims. The reason is that there are close to 2 billion Muslims in the world, and every single one of them is expected to perform the pilgrimage to the Mecca / Mina complex at least once in their life. This alone guarantees tens of millions of pilgrims annually.

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Quote from: silverleafy on September 28, 2015, 10:04:35 PM

I really don't get the notion of "Holy place" specially not in religions where God is omnipresent, all-knowing and omnipotent. OK, I get that places of prayer are to be respected, but this whole thing going on in mecca is crazy. I also get pilgrimage... but come on!! What's going to happen in mecca that's so important? Nothing, but people just have to risk their lives in such a crowded mess. It. Is. Insane. Really. If something huge is going to happen, wouldn't God just kind of... broadcast it to the faithful? The real faithful. Why not have it happen in all mosques? But the religious fundamentalists never seem to let their god be practical an smart.

Wars have been fought over control of holy places. The Saudis control over these holy places gives them power.
So risking lives in a crowded mess is nothing.

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HAPPY PATRIOT DAY.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE. PLEASE RETURN HOME TO YOUR GOATS.

God bless motherf**king America. It's payback time.

Please don't make American's look even more ignorant than we already do. Death for death, even if that WERE the case is not a solution.. It's a problem on top of a problem. I sincerely hope that you are trolling, and I am too new to the politics section to take notice of that, because otherwise.. Bad-Dog!

Quote from: CoinFoxs on September 12, 2015, 08:52:47 AM

107 muslims Martyred till now Sad

It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

Many more have been martyred in total, and I'm sure that this tragedy would not actually consider anyone of them a martyr; This is truly a tragedy, especially in such a holy sanctuary.
Rest-in-Peace to those who have passed.

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107 muslims Martyred till now Sad

It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

I don't know whether they consider deaths from building collapse as "martyrdom". Anyway, it was a sad incident. That said, I don't know why they allowed the worshipers inside the mosque, when the construction activity was ongoing.

Money.

You pay for doing worship ? it is just a question , Think before you speak dear.....
Tell me dear you pay when you worship.?

No my dear I do not. I guess this hotel cost nothing to build? Opening in 2017. Use google image to know what it is... If you don't already.

I agree with Wilikon on this one, nobody is going to deny these people their sanctuary when the money out-weighs the risk (Theoretically).. It's just extremely unfortunate at the actual price of their decisions, and their invalidation of just how "risky" the decision to allow people in before the equipment had been removed.

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Iranian general suggests Saudi tragedies orchestrated by Israel

The deputy chief of staff of the Iranian armed forces suggested Monday that the deadly Mecca crane collapse and hajj stampede were orchestrated by Israel and Saudi Arabia.

At least 107 people were killed and 238 injured when a crane collapsed on the Grand Mosque during a storm on September 11. The head of Saudi Arabia’s civil defense directorate said high winds caused the incident, which also led to the death of a top Iranian scientist. Last week, over 700 people were trampled to death during the annual hajj pilgrimage in Mecca, including some 150 Iranian nationals.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-general-suggests-saudi-tragedies-orchestrated-by-israel/

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Quote from: silverleafy on September 28, 2015, 10:04:35 PM

I really don't get the notion of "Holy place" specially not in religions where God is omnipresent, all-knowing and omnipotent. OK, I get that places of prayer are to be respected, but this whole thing going on in mecca is crazy. I also get pilgrimage... but come on!! What's going to happen in mecca that's so important? Nothing, but people just have to risk their lives in such a crowded mess. It. Is. Insane. Really. If something huge is going to happen, wouldn't God just kind of... broadcast it to the faithful? The real faithful. Why not have it happen in all mosques? But the religious fundamentalists never seem to let their god be practical an smart.

SAUDI ARABIA: BLACK STONE OF MECCA REVEALED TO BE A METEORITE

http://worldnewsdailyreport.com/saudi-arabia-black-stone-of-mecca-revealed-to-be-a-meteorite/

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I really don't get the notion of "Holy place" specially not in religions where God is omnipresent, all-knowing and omnipotent. OK, I get that places of prayer are to be respected, but this whole thing going on in mecca is crazy. I also get pilgrimage... but come on!! What's going to happen in mecca that's so important? Nothing, but people just have to risk their lives in such a crowded mess. It. Is. Insane. Really. If something huge is going to happen, wouldn't God just kind of... broadcast it to the faithful? The real faithful. Why not have it happen in all mosques? But the religious fundamentalists never seem to let their god be practical an smart.

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Death Toll In Mecca Stampede Much Higher Than Saudi Officials Originally Reported

ISLAMABAD — Saudi Arabia has given foreign diplomats some 1,100 photographs of the dead from last week’s hajj crush and stampede, Indian and Pakistani authorities said, an indication of a significantly higher death toll than previously offered by the kingdom.

Saudi officials could not be immediately reached for comment Monday night about the discrepancy in the toll of the disaster in Mina. The Saudi Health Ministry’s latest figures, released Saturday, put the toll at 769 people killed and 934 injured.

Tariq Fazal Chaudhry, a lawmaker in Pakistan’s governing PML-N political party who is leading his country’s response to the disaster, said Saudi officials gave diplomats “1,100 photos” of the dead from Mina. Chaudhry told journalists during a news conference broadcast nationwide on Monday night that the photos could be viewed at Saudi embassies and missions abroad.

“This is the official figure of martyrs from Saudi officials, given for the identification process,” Chaudhry said.

His comments echoed those of Indian External Affairs Minister Sushma Swaraj from Sunday.

“Saudi authorities have released photos of 1,090 pilgrims who have died in (the hajj) stampede,” Swaraj wrote on Twitter.

http://nypost.com/2015/09/28/death-toll-in-hajj-disaster-much-higher-than-saudi-officials-originally-reported/

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 28, 2015, 02:41:39 PM

^^^^ This is actually suprising. Only a small number of the dead were African pilgrims. Almost one-third of the casualties were among the Iranians. The Saudi are showing their true colors once again. They are blaming someone else for their own mistake. This has happened in the past as well. I just hope that the Iranians sue them in the ICC.

It is politically safer to vaguely blame inhabitants of a whole continent than targeting and naming a specific country...

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^^^^ This is actually suprising. Only a small number of the dead were African pilgrims. Almost one-third of the casualties were among the Iranians. The Saudi are showing their true colors once again. They are blaming someone else for their own mistake. This has happened in the past as well. I just hope that the Iranians sue them in the ICC.

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Saudi Hajj Chief Blames ‘Africans’ for Deadly Stampede That Killed Over 700

The head of the committee which oversees the hajj pilgrimage has sparked outrage by blaming pilgrims of ‘African nationalities’ for the stampede which killed more than 700 people.

In what was the worst disaster in a quarter-century to strike the annual event, 769 people died two days ago when the stampede broke out in Mina, about three miles from Mecca, during the symbolic stoning of the devil ritual.

The inflammatory comments come as authorities were heavily criticised for a perceived lapse in safety measures at what is one of the world’s largest pilgrimages.

Adding further offence, Saudi Arabia’s top religious leader has now stated the disaster was beyond human control.

According to various news outlets, Saudi-owned al-Arabiya TV reported that the head of the central Hajj committee, Prince Khaled al-Faisal, blamed the stampede on ‘some pilgrims with African nationalities’.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3250036/Fury-Saudi-s-hajj-chief-blames-African-pilgrims-stampede-killed-700-country-s-cleric-says-human-control.html

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Iran is planning to sue Saudi Arabia over this disaster.
I wonder what they plan to achieve by doing this.

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^^^^ It is not surprising. Very few Arabs lost their lives in the stampede. Most of those who got killed were from Iran and African nations. As far as I understood, no one from the GCC nations lost their lives. And for the Saudis, the lives of the other pilgrims are worthless. Even more so, if they are from the Shiite country of Iran.

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Saudis Bulldoze Dead Hajj Pilgrims Like Garbage

On Thursday 769 Muslims were killed in a stampede during the Hajj in Saudi Arabia.

Saudi officials blamed pilgrims for not following the rules for the deadly stampede. Others blamed the convoy of the son of the Saudi King Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud for the tragedy.

About two million Muslims from 180 countries arrived in Saudi Arabia this year for the annual pilgrimage.

The Saudis bulldozed the bodies after the deadly stampede.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/saudis-bulldoze-dead-hajj-pilgrims-like-garbage/

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Quote from: J. J. Phillips on September 25, 2015, 02:00:16 PM

Yes, if I'm going to plagiarise my posts, I shouldn't be so obvious about it.

I like easy memes. Easier to google. Please don't make me work harder for free...

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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.

Yes, if I'm going to plagiarise my posts, I shouldn't be so obvious about it.

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Quote from: J. J. Phillips on September 25, 2015, 01:02:08 PM

I'm trying to decide if it's funnier to see this as "the will of Allah" or as the devil getting some revenge for Hadjis stoning him.

Wait. Hadji? Is that right? OMG. Hadji's dead! No!!11!

You stampeders did it. You finally really did it. God damn you! God damn you all to hell!

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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.

I'm trying to decide if it's funnier to see this as "the will of Allah" or as the devil getting some revenge for Hadjis stoning him.

Wait. Hadji? Is that right? OMG. Hadji's dead! No!!11!

You stampeders did it. You finally really did it. God damn you! God damn you all to hell!

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Yet another incident? And this time the death toll is way higher.
It calls into doubt the competence of those managing this pilgrimage.

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Again there is a sad news from Haj, many peoples died and injured the incident. RIP

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717 dead

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/09/24/453-pilgrims-dead-in-hajj-stampede-near-mecca/

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Muslim Stampede Kills More than 450 Outside Mecca (VIDEO)

A Muslim stampede killed more than 450 people during the annual “stoning of the devil” in the tent city of Mina outside Mecca.

The stampede was caught on video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_W4Woeqwsdk

From the video it looks like the people were crushed in the street.

CNN reported:

A stampede during one of the last rituals of the Hajj season — the annual Islamic pilgrimage to Mecca — has killed more than 450 people and injured 719 others in Saudi Arabia.

The stampede occurred Thursday morning during the ritual known as “stoning the devil” in the tent city of Mina, about 2 miles from Mecca, Islam’s holiest city.

Hundreds have been killed in past years during the same ceremony, and it comes only 13 days after a crane collapse killed more than 100 people at another major Islamic holy site, the Grand Mosque in Mecca.

“We have a stampede accident in Mina, and civil defense is dealing with it,” said Brig. Gen. Mansour al-Turki, an Interior Ministry spokesman.

Civil defense authorities said the latest death toll is 453, but the numbers have been climbing steadily. Officials deployed 4,000 workers, along with 220 ambulances and other vehicles, to Mina to help deal with the disaster.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/muslim-stampede-kills-more-than-450-outside-mecca-video/

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Quote from: klf on September 14, 2015, 08:26:52 PM

This Reminds me of those stories when they say someone died while praying or how beautiful it is to die in a religious place...anyway R.I.P

Dying in your sleep in a religious place is beautiful. Being crushed like a tomato? Not so much...

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This Reminds me of those stories when they say someone died while praying or how beautiful it is to die in a religious place...anyway R.I.P

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If it had been a stork, it would have brought life, not taken life away. After all, isn't it the stork that brings the new babies to the parents? But now we see that a crane is the one that takes life away.

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107 muslims Martyred till now Sad

It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

I don't know whether they consider deaths from building collapse as "martyrdom". Anyway, it was a sad incident. That said, I don't know why they allowed the worshipers inside the mosque, when the construction activity was ongoing.

Money.

Do they have to pay to get in?

Quote from: Santoso on September 14, 2015, 05:35:07 AM

Hope this sad accident won't affect people's faith in performing Hajj and Saudi goverment learn something valuable from this and be more careful..

Since when does death effect peoples faith. Normally the idiotically spin it into it was gods will or some crap.

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Quote from: Santoso on September 14, 2015, 05:35:07 AM

Deep condolence to the victims.
May the souls rest in peace.. Sad

And the families are given strength..
Hope this sad accident won't affect people's faith in performing Hajj and Saudi goverment learn something valuable from this and be more careful..

Cranes stand in every city, and it is almost completely unheard of that one will collapse.

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Deep condolence to the victims.
May the souls rest in peace.. Sad

And the families are given strength..
Hope this sad accident won't affect people's faith in performing Hajj and Saudi goverment learn something valuable from this and be more careful..

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107 muslims Martyred till now Sad

It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

I don't know whether they consider deaths from building collapse as "martyrdom". Anyway, it was a sad incident. That said, I don't know why they allowed the worshipers inside the mosque, when the construction activity was ongoing.

Money.

You pay for doing worship ? it is just a question , Think before you speak dear.....
Tell me dear you pay when you worship.?

No my dear I do not. I guess this hotel cost nothing to build? Opening in 2017. Use google image to know what it is... If you don't already.

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107 muslims Martyred till now Sad

It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

I don't know whether they consider deaths from building collapse as "martyrdom". Anyway, it was a sad incident. That said, I don't know why they allowed the worshipers inside the mosque, when the construction activity was ongoing.

Money.

You pay for doing worship ? it is just a question , Think before you speak dear.....
Tell me dear you pay when you worship.?

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107 muslims Martyred till now Sad

It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

I don't know whether they consider deaths from building collapse as "martyrdom". Anyway, it was a sad incident. That said, I don't know why they allowed the worshipers inside the mosque, when the construction activity was ongoing.

Money.

Construction was compelete almost just cranes stand inside the Haram Shareef. This month is of Hajj for Muslims thats why they don't stop people to worship in Holy Kaaba.

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107 muslims Martyred till now Sad

It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

I don't know whether they consider deaths from building collapse as "martyrdom". Anyway, it was a sad incident. That said, I don't know why they allowed the worshipers inside the mosque, when the construction activity was ongoing.

Money.

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Crane collapse kills at least 107 in Mecca Grand Mosque

At least 107 people have been killed and 238 others injured after a crane collapsed in Mecca's Grand Mosque, Saudi Arabia's civil defence authority says.

Pictures posted online showed queues of Saudi men volunteering to donate blood for those injured in Friday's crash.

Al Jazeera's Hasan Patel, reporting from Mecca, said witnesses told him that a crane fell on the third floor of the Grand Mosque at around 5.30pm on Friday.

He said the mosque was packed even though the incident happened before the 6.30pm prayer.

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2015/09/scores-killed-crane-crashed-mecca-mosque-150911165411551.html

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Quote from: wearepoor on September 12, 2015, 02:07:08 PM

Very sad news, I think this accident happen because of negligence and lack of safety measures. As per recent report more than 100 people died in this incident
It will happen again as it doesn't have a solid foundation. This is not a child's erector set but a massive undertaking being done by people uncertified to do the construction, there should be proper investigation to find out the root cause and those who are responsible for this incident should have been punished.

May be this is due to lack of incidence or some other reason , we don't know what happened and how happened. Investigation going on let see what happened. After investigation we will able to say that this is due to lack of safety measures.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 12, 2015, 01:48:32 PM

Quote from: CoinFoxs on September 12, 2015, 08:52:47 AM

107 muslims Martyred till now Sad

It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

I don't know whether they consider deaths from building collapse as "martyrdom". Anyway, it was a sad incident. That said, I don't know why they allowed the worshipers inside the mosque, when the construction activity was ongoing.

You are right dear but in Islam * Holy Kaaba* is very important for Muslims and they were lucky they died in Holy Kaaba... They are martyr because they are going there for performing Hajj.
And yeah it was very sad incident not for muslims only , for all the humanity.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 12, 2015, 01:48:32 PM

That said, I don't know why they allowed the worshipers inside the mosque, when the construction activity was ongoing.

Expansion activities are going on. They didn't foresee any damage in the actual mosque area.
They should have taken more precautions.

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Very sad news, I think this accident happen because of negligence and lack of safety measures. As per recent report more than 100 people died in this incident
It will happen again as it doesn't have a solid foundation. This is not a child's erector set but a massive undertaking being done by people uncertified to do the construction, there should be proper investigation to find out the root cause and those who are responsible for this incident should have been punished.

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Quote from: CoinFoxs on September 12, 2015, 08:52:47 AM

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It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

I don't know whether they consider deaths from building collapse as "martyrdom". Anyway, it was a sad incident. That said, I don't know why they allowed the worshipers inside the mosque, when the construction activity was ongoing.

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Quote from: bojan92 on September 11, 2015, 09:43:30 PM

Quote from: spike420211 on September 11, 2015, 04:12:51 PM

HAPPY PATRIOT DAY.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE. PLEASE RETURN HOME TO YOUR GOATS.

God bless motherf**king America. It's payback time.

What have i missed? The crane was from an American construction company or what? Where America is involved in this? People died, and it is sad. They weren't from ISIS or other organization so we can cheer their death.

The crane was owned by the Bin Laden family.

The crane belongs to a German crane company operated by the Bin Laden family’s consortium, who are heading the expansion of the Holy Mosque.

Saudi BinLaden Group was founded by Osama’s Bin Laden’s billionaire father Mohammed and the sprawling construction conglomerate runs a large amount of major building contracts in the Sunni kingdom.

Pictures taken before the disaster show the crane being struck by a bolt of lightning and authorities are in little doubt extreme weather was to blame.

The crane fell into the east side of the mosque, with the top section of the structure crashing into the roof.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3231117/At-62-people-dead-crane-collapses-Grand-Mosque-Mecca.html

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107 muslims Martyred till now Sad

It was a very sad incident in the history of Islam , Rip all the victims of Mecca..
There are very lucky seriously, they died in Holy Kaaba.

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May the dead rest in peace.
The Saudi government should learn some valuable lessons from this in crowd management. There shouldn't have been a huge crowd nears parts where expansion work is going on.

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it is a very very bad news one of holliest place in the world collapse. rest in piece to the dead

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Quote from: spike420211 on September 11, 2015, 04:12:51 PM

HAPPY PATRIOT DAY.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE. PLEASE RETURN HOME TO YOUR GOATS.

God bless motherf**king America. It's payback time.

What have i missed? The crane was from an American construction company or what? Where America is involved in this? People died, and it is sad. They weren't from ISIS or other organization so we can cheer their death.

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HAPPY PATRIOT DAY.
NOTHING TO SEE HERE. PLEASE RETURN HOME TO YOUR GOATS.

God bless motherf**king America. It's payback time.

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RIP to the dead.

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great loss to the world

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At least 87 people have died after a crane collapsed on the Grand Mosque of Mecca on Friday, Saudi authorities say.
According to Saudi Interior Ministry, at least 184 more people were injured in the incident.

The tragedy comes ahead of the annual Hajj pilgrimage which is due later this month. Millions of Muslims from around the world will converge on the holy city between September 21-26.

Local media reports suggested that the accident occurred due to heavy rains the Kingdom. The governor of the Makkah region, the capital of which is Mecca, Prince Khalid al-Faisal has ordered the launch of an investigation into the causes of the accident.

Photos taken from the scene and posted on social media show bodies lying in blood on the mosque’s floor surrounded by construction rubble and metal parts of the crane.

http://www.rt.com/news/315082-crane-collapses-mecca-mosque/

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