99%, 53%, 1%, Black, White - It's all retarded.

Vanderbleek

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Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 03:12:06 PM

I never denied groups don't exist nor are their relevance. I just claim they don't have rights. They can't have rights.

I'm all for the individual, but at the end of the day we need to realize that we are human beings -- a group. A group of wonderful, innovative creatures who have done more than any other organism on this planet. You should always be asking yourself "what can I do to solve my neighbor's problems?" Lead by example.

On the subject of rights, I think we all have quite a few. The right to play loud music, for example. We have a responsibility not to.

I.Goldstein

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I never denied groups don't exist nor their relevance. I just claim they don't have rights. They can't have rights.

Red

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Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 01:35:35 PM

Rights can only be maintained for living beings, as individuals. A group or race does not think or feel. Only individuals do.

I think this is silly on face value. Of course groups matter. Human groups are fundamental to humanity. On our own a human is easy prey for any random pack of wolves. As a group... well let's just say roving packs of wolves are no longer a problem.

It is also clear that differences among groups are important. I would much rather belong to the group of smart people. Does that make the group of dumb people sub-human? No. It just makes them uninteresting.

I.Goldstein

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Quote from: cbeast on October 26, 2011, 02:11:34 PM

Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 02:08:28 PM

Quote from: cbeast on October 26, 2011, 02:04:45 PM

Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 01:35:35 PM

You know what the origin of racism and classism is?

We have to remember that there aren't any rights that come with being a certain ... class.

Especially the poor, right Atlas?

What should entitle the poor to anything more than the rich and vice-versa? It's a silly question.

Like the right to exist, yeah. Hmm. Time to update my ignore list.

All I am arguing is 'rich' and 'poor' are silly terms. They should all be equal by their status as individuals and not by their class.

cbeast

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Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 02:08:28 PM

Quote from: cbeast on October 26, 2011, 02:04:45 PM

Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 01:35:35 PM

You know what the origin of racism and classism is?

We have to remember that there aren't any rights that come with being a certain ... class.

Especially the poor, right Atlas?

What should entitle the poor to anything more than the rich and vice-versa? It's a silly question.

Like the right to exist, yeah. Hmm. Time to update my ignore list.

kokjo

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You are WRONG!

Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 02:08:28 PM

Quote from: cbeast on October 26, 2011, 02:04:45 PM

Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 01:35:35 PM

You know what the origin of racism and classism is?

We have to remember that there aren't any rights that come with being a certain ... class.

Especially the poor, right Atlas?

What should entitle the poor to anything more than the rich and vice-versa? It's a silly question.

ATLAS CONFIRMED!

I.Goldstein

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Quote from: cbeast on October 26, 2011, 02:04:45 PM

Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 01:35:35 PM

You know what the origin of racism and classism is?

We have to remember that there aren't any rights that come with being a certain ... class.

Especially the poor, right Atlas?

What should entitle the poor to anything more than the rich and vice-versa? It's a silly question.

cbeast

donator

Activity: 1736

Merit: 1006

Let's talk governance, lipstick, and pigs.

Quote from: I.Goldstein on October 26, 2011, 01:35:35 PM

You know what the origin of racism and classism is?

We have to remember that there aren't any rights that come with being a certain ... class.

Especially the poor, right Atlas?

I.Goldstein

newbie

Activity: 14

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You know what the origin of racism and classism is?

It's bullshit like this: putting people into groups. We have to remember that there aren't any rights that come with being a certain race, gender or class. Rights can only be maintained for living beings, as individuals. A group or race does not think or feel. Only individuals do. So let's focus on liberating ourselves as individuals and not as these groups. That accomplishes nothing and only creates further coercive inequality. All it does is propagate violence and dissent.

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